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Way more better then the normal bench press. It has a much bigger ROM and you don't push just forward. It is more like with dumbbells but you don't need to put them in position
Do you do all of those in a row? How did you feel? That can be overwhelming for new gym goers. As long as appropriate rest times were given you should be ok.
@@doublegswellness7341 I took proper rest timings, I did all in a row and it felt good, normal and not exhaustive. I felt the pressure in the chest area.
I really like this machine. I had a frozen shoulder some years ago and benching with other machines or barbells was killing the same shoulder. I don't know what it is about this one but it doesn't cause the same pain.
We are glad that this is working for you! It could be that this is much safer and the handles were designed in an angle to help keep the shoulder tucked in and avoid any flaring out.
This machine says the starting weight is 18.5lbs (it's printed on the machine label) Is that per side or for both combined? I'd guess combined but it doens't say. That's less than half a 45lb bar so easy to see why you can bench more plates with this.
How does the weight compare with the bars? For example, on a standard bench with a barbell, one plate on each side is a 135 lb bench press. How much would it be for this machine with one plate on each side?
I can do 13-15 reps with two plates on this machine but I can only do 5-8 reps with two plates on the bar. I'm guessing this could feel like 95-105 with two plates on this machine. The starting weight is 18 lbs plus 90 (plate each side) is 108. This machine is also a lot more stable which helps us push a lot more weight here versus a regular bar.
It’s a lot easier than barbell bench/dumbells as the machine includes a type 2 lever that assists a lot. It’s relatively easy to estimate if someone measures from the pivot point at the back of the machine to the where the weights are loaded up and from the pivot point to where the handles are you can just pop the numbers into a ‘type 2 fulcrum lever calculator’ (Google) and it will tell you.
This is the shoulder press czcams.com/video/21AbjdjOjo4/video.html These are the two incline presses czcams.com/video/A1SeZ2uirl4/video.html czcams.com/video/tK1yRtJUuCA/video.html Hope this helps!
The seated version can be easier on the shoulder because the effects of gravity are less intense. Most people we have trainer say that they feel more on the chest doing the seated version but the ones that do the bench version say they get stronger doing that version. I personally can do 3 plates on each side on the seated version but I can't do that same weight on the bench version. Based on what we have experiences and seen if you want more strength the bench is better but if you want to be safer and get longer mechanical tension (more of a building muscle/body builder standpoint), do the seated version.
Is it normal that i usually bench 90kg on a normal barbell bench with 35kg on each side, but today when i tried out the machine 35kg was unmovable and i had to put it down to 30kg to move it with the same intensity?
thats weird, because i think this machine makes it easier to lift more weight. On a barbell bench i usually do 90-95 kg for 12-10 reps with no problems and in this type of machine i can do 12-10 reps with 100 kg and without resting as much as i do with the barbell bench.
Yes that is unusual to do more on regular bench than this machine. Just how @visaonoturna6365 said it should be easier. There is a factor that maybe because it is a new machine position could have been a little off and because you start from the bottom and not the top position could have thrown you off as well. Let us know if it still keeps happening.
I am very weak at benching and i cant see myslef improving . I am currently at 10 kgs and i am not improving should i give this machine a try? My chest routing in push day is flat bench , incline bench and dumbbell flies
Of course try this machine or any of the iso-lateral plate loaded machines. Just keep pushing a little more weight or more reps. Little improvements every day go a long way. You got this!!
3 plates on here would be 306 (135 each side plus 18 pounds per arm (handle)) and the regular bench would be 315. This feels easier and better on the shoulders. I can bench two plates on regular bench for 5 reps and about 8 reps here with two plates and a 25 on each side. This will definitely help with your bench because it helps your body get used to higher tension with heavier loads while working on your form and developing a strong base.
Yes it does. The closer your arms are towards each other (less shoulder abduction or elbows not flaring out) the more the triceps will be involved. In presses the more abduction you go into the less the tricep will work. I would say this would get the triceps better than a regular bench press but not more than a close grip press.
The bar it self is 45 pounds which is heavier than these handles, you are in a fixed position that puts the shoulder in a tighter position with a regular bench press, and the machine creates more stability for you compared to a regular bench press. We hope this helps!
@@doublegswellness7341do you know what it would equate to as a % of bench press as I would feel more comfortable to test 1 rep max on this rather than bench press
This is much safer and handles are set at a small angle to help protect the shoulders from the fixed position of a regular bench press. Ideally you can load up more weight on here if you are by yourself. I do both all the time.
Way more better then the normal bench press. It has a much bigger ROM and you don't push just forward. It is more like with dumbbells but you don't need to put them in position
Agreed! We love this machine!
As a newbie to the gym, the trainer asked me to do this bench press, then flat bench press(dumbbell) and decline bench press. 10reps×3set
Do you do all of those in a row? How did you feel? That can be overwhelming for new gym goers. As long as appropriate rest times were given you should be ok.
@@doublegswellness7341 I took proper rest timings, I did all in a row and it felt good, normal and not exhaustive. I felt the pressure in the chest area.
I really like this machine. I had a frozen shoulder some years ago and benching with other machines or barbells was killing the same shoulder. I don't know what it is about this one but it doesn't cause the same pain.
We are glad that this is working for you! It could be that this is much safer and the handles were designed in an angle to help keep the shoulder tucked in and avoid any flaring out.
This machine says the starting weight is 18.5lbs (it's printed on the machine label) Is that per side or for both combined? I'd guess combined but it doens't say. That's less than half a 45lb bar so easy to see why you can bench more plates with this.
Yes it is per side. We can also bench because of how stable this machine is compared to a barbell.
very pro.
Thank you.
How does the weight compare with the bars? For example, on a standard bench with a barbell, one plate on each side is a 135 lb bench press. How much would it be for this machine with one plate on each side?
I can do 13-15 reps with two plates on this machine but I can only do 5-8 reps with two plates on the bar. I'm guessing this could feel like 95-105 with two plates on this machine. The starting weight is 18 lbs plus 90 (plate each side) is 108. This machine is also a lot more stable which helps us push a lot more weight here versus a regular bar.
It’s a lot easier than barbell bench/dumbells as the machine includes a type 2 lever that assists a lot. It’s relatively easy to estimate if someone measures from the pivot point at the back of the machine to the where the weights are loaded up and from the pivot point to where the handles are you can just pop the numbers into a ‘type 2 fulcrum lever calculator’ (Google) and it will tell you.
Outstanding but what about incline presses and shoulder presses? Options available on this machine?
This is the shoulder press czcams.com/video/21AbjdjOjo4/video.html
These are the two incline presses
czcams.com/video/A1SeZ2uirl4/video.html
czcams.com/video/tK1yRtJUuCA/video.html
Hope this helps!
What's difference of this and regular bench press. Is it the same gains and results. Be helpful to know
This can help you prepare for heavier load on regular bench. You can do more weight safer on here than a regular bench.
I love this machine.
It’s a great machine forsure!
damn its so hard to find a gym with this machine in Vancouver
We are lucky out here.
Am I doing something wrong or is my form incorrect because I'm feeling soreness and pain in my shoulders instead of my chest. Please tell 🙏🙏
You might be flaring your elbows out. Try scooting back more so your hands are inline with you middle of the chest.
@@doublegswellness7341 thanks for the advice. Will try this out 🙏🙏
Bench press with a barbell!
@@RuntTyson if it doesn't bother you and you have great form, go for it 👍
How does this machine compare to the SEATED Hammer Strength
Plate-Loaded Iso-Lateral Bench Press?
The seated version can be easier on the shoulder because the effects of gravity are less intense. Most people we have trainer say that they feel more on the chest doing the seated version but the ones that do the bench version say they get stronger doing that version. I personally can do 3 plates on each side on the seated version but I can't do that same weight on the bench version. Based on what we have experiences and seen if you want more strength the bench is better but if you want to be safer and get longer mechanical tension (more of a building muscle/body builder standpoint), do the seated version.
Is it normal that i usually bench 90kg on a normal barbell bench with 35kg on each side, but today when i tried out the machine 35kg was unmovable and i had to put it down to 30kg to move it with the same intensity?
thats weird, because i think this machine makes it easier to lift more weight. On a barbell bench i usually do 90-95 kg for 12-10 reps with no problems and in this type of machine i can do 12-10 reps with 100 kg and without resting as much as i do with the barbell bench.
Yes that is unusual to do more on regular bench than this machine. Just how @visaonoturna6365 said it should be easier. There is a factor that maybe because it is a new machine position could have been a little off and because you start from the bottom and not the top position could have thrown you off as well. Let us know if it still keeps happening.
I am very weak at benching and i cant see myslef improving . I am currently at 10 kgs and i am not improving should i give this machine a try? My chest routing in push day is flat bench , incline bench and dumbbell flies
Of course try this machine or any of the iso-lateral plate loaded machines. Just keep pushing a little more weight or more reps. Little improvements every day go a long way. You got this!!
Bro Whats your max on this machine and on regular bench press
I don't max but I can do 235 for 5 on a regular bench, 100 lbs for 10 with dumbbells, and two plates and a 35 on this machine for 6-8 reps.
What is 3 plates on this transfer to on Bench Press?
3 plates on here would be 306 (135 each side plus 18 pounds per arm (handle)) and the regular bench would be 315. This feels easier and better on the shoulders. I can bench two plates on regular bench for 5 reps and about 8 reps here with two plates and a 25 on each side. This will definitely help with your bench because it helps your body get used to higher tension with heavier loads while working on your form and developing a strong base.
@@doublegswellness7341my gym has this machine and i can bench 3 plates for about 5 reps but i never thought the handles weighed that much
Is 90lbs on each side good or just average
That depends on who you ask. A rough estimate benching 90lbs here would be like benching 170-185 on a regular bench.
What about the triceps?
Does it work them as well as the classic bench press?
Yes it does. The closer your arms are towards each other (less shoulder abduction or elbows not flaring out) the more the triceps will be involved. In presses the more abduction you go into the less the tricep will work. I would say this would get the triceps better than a regular bench press but not more than a close grip press.
Thanks!
There's this machine in my gym and I start to give it the eye. I think I'm going to try it out soon.
@@musicsavage Let us know how it goes. Superset them with dumbbell skull crushers for a great tricep pump!
Good
Thanks!
If I do this, can I skip the barbell bench press? Please reply
Yes you can. This is a great substitution for a barbell bench press.
@@doublegswellness7341 Okay, btw thanks for replying.
Why can I handle more weight on this than on the standard barbell bench press?
The bar it self is 45 pounds which is heavier than these handles, you are in a fixed position that puts the shoulder in a tighter position with a regular bench press, and the machine creates more stability for you compared to a regular bench press. We hope this helps!
@@doublegswellness7341do you know what it would equate to as a % of bench press as I would feel more comfortable to test 1 rep max on this rather than bench press
Is this better then flat bench
In our opinion yes!
What’s the difference between this and the flat bench
This is much safer and handles are set at a small angle to help protect the shoulders from the fixed position of a regular bench press. Ideally you can load up more weight on here if you are by yourself. I do both all the time.
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Does this Target our whole chest?
It does, it hits chest better than a regular bench press and much more effective at doing heavier weight.
Ok sir, tqsm
Of course!@@user-om4lc9ub3m
Why in my gym there is this pectoral sweet
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Whats price
For this machine? Maybe 1500-2200 dollars.