Sigma 100-400mm DG DN OS 'C' (new version for mirrorless cameras) lens review (Full-frame & APS-C)
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- Neat - it's about time an affordable 100-400mm lens arrived on the Sony E-mount (and L-mount alliance) systems. Let's hope that one day it finds itself on Canon RF and Nikon Z mounts, too.
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All pictures taken by me on Sony a7R II and a5100 cameras.
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Anyone else just watch his reviews as a stress reliever? Seriously the most soothing voice on CZcams
Sony needs to thank Sigma & Tamron a lot.
Sigma and Tamron need to thank Sony for: (a) giving them the necessary tech info to make nicely compatible lenses (unlike some other makes); and (b) having a market large enough to be worth creating for!
Sigma & Tamron and Sony need to thank each other
Sony is the second-largest shareholder of Tamron, they’re family.
It simply shows, yet again, how poorly Sony treat it's body owners by providing reasonably priced native glass.
Just don't mention how Sony ,by default, left it to Sigma to provide glass for the hugely successful Sony apsc range.
I guess Im asking the wrong place but does any of you know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account..?
I was dumb lost the login password. I love any tricks you can offer me.
Sigma again made a GM quality lens with half the price. Very impressive.
Yeah, a little less sharpness on 400 mm, but smoother bokeh. Very impressive! Now I look forward to their 70-200 f2.8.
Its really thrown a spanner in the works as , getting this lens means i could get the tamron 70-180 2.8 on e mount too within the same budget
Sigma and tamron are on fire 🔥
@@bioliv1 I cant seem to find any information on Sigmas 70-200 f2.8 for Sony emount.
@@jeank3639 Yeah, too bad!
Finding this video 2 years after upload - exactly what I was looking for. I had a Sigma 150-600 previously and it worked great. Obviously you can spend more, but for my use, I can't justify $2.5K on the Sony lens. If photography were a bigger hobby, maybe, but sometimes I go weeks/months without using it. I'll be pairing this with a Sony A6600 which is 3.6LB - very light. My prior setup - D500 w/ Sigma 150-600 - was 5.9LB. Weight savings is mostly for my sister - she loves birding, but had trouble with the heavier setup, especially if holding for a long period. She'll enjoy this one. Thanks for the thorough review.
Thank you very very much for this review! Before buying a new optic I always search if you reviewed it. You're of immense help, thank you again and keep it up the good work.
I was looking forward to your review of this lens. I think your reviews strike a great balance between specs, real world shots and charts.
I already have the Sony (and love it) so would not want to trade out at this time, but I am very glad to see such a high quality competitor on the market now. Superb review as always.
The best review ever.I really like your videos.Straight to the point.Great job as always.Probably my next lens for sony cameras.👍👍👍
Awesome review. It's awesome you were able to get a pre production lense and be one of the first to do a review that is trustworthy.
Can confirm, I've owned this lens for 2 months now and I use it on both my A7R3 and A6500. I sent my 70-300 tamron back.
Always enjoy your reviews, thank you!
Even though this is an old review, it is still valuable for the information, I just bought one used off this videos' information, I always check your reviews before buying new or used.
Thanks for good stuff.
Awesome Review as always Christopher! Thanks so much!
I was waiting for this one ! Thank you
Excellent review with great analysis of the lens. I have pre-ordered from Sigma Australia. Thanks for a helpful review.
Hell of a lens! *Humble suggestion for your future videos* - in the bright light reflection part of the review (11:39), would be nice to see how good of a job the lens hood does because their design differs with each lens. Couple other things you could mention is whether a firmware update on the lens changes anything, or what version you tested the lens at, and on the photo samples, you could write very small in the corner of the screen the SS/ISO/F-stop settings for that photo, and/or focal length where applicable. Keep up the amazing work, I have been your ambassador on Reddit :D
I'll try and think about that, but frankly...the lens flare section of my tests is fairly unscientific, so it might be tricky for me to find careful and fair way to do that, hehe :-) Generally though, with this lens, I only found any kind of problems when bright lights were directly in the image frame, so a lens hood wouldn't help in that respect. With firmware updates, I try to review lenses quite early, before the firmware updates come out. But I do sometimes mention them in the description (see my review of the Viltrox 33mm f/1.4), so keep an eye out there. Thanks for the comment, all the best!
@@christopherfrost Thank you for following up on my message :) fairly unscientifically or not, a lot of people in here swear by your reviews - myself included! (no pressure :D) Godspeed!
Great detailed review. I appreciate your continued balanced and unbiased information. Thank you 🙏🏿
Top notch review! So excited for this lens!
Great! You are by far the best lens reviewer 👍
Finally a affordable telephoto lense for e mount
Hopefully there will be more too
I would be more happy for 70-300 at half a price, but any new lens is a good news.
Ziggi Mon only for ef mount though :/
Where can we buy this?
@Ziggi Mon canon mount? You mean the old outdated e mount or the new rf mount?
@Ziggi Mon also that lens is soft. This one is updated :)
this is definitely my next lens, great video as always
It's truly amazing what Sigma could achieve within such a relatively affordable and small package. This on APS-C could be a lighter 150-600 replacement, I'm only hoping Sony can improve their PDAF system for using smaller aperture lenses.
Absolutely amazed at the optics in this lens! For the money, this is the lens to buy if you don't already have a nice zoom in that range. I might even grab one for a lightweight alternative to my heavy 2.8 G-Lens. Great review again...thank you!
Thanks for you nice objective review. Following our review I bought it had originally been thinking about Tamron 70-180. Very impressed. One nice we touch is that there is a raised blob the the index mark is for the bayonet mount unlike Tamron lenses which only have a white line. This was very useful the other night while out in dark trying to photograph Comet Neowise.
You sir take gorgeous pictures!
What a beast is this lens indeed! Never seen a fullframe telephoto lens works on an apsc on par if not saying better! Wow! A brilliant early review Chris! Thanks alot
We have yet to know how the image on 7r4 which demands even more resolution through out the sensor than 24MP apsc.
Well said...that would be around 27mp crop sensor! Who else needs the 1.4 teleconvertor then which I think will reduces the image quality somewhat more than the crop mode on a7r4
Just ordered! Wow the sharpness even in the corners!
Good honest review Chris
Great review Chris! Thanks.
It's always great when you do these tests on the APS-C version too. It looks like it could be a good 150-600mm on this cropped sensor.
would always prefer the 70-350 over this
@@hardywoodaway9912 Indeed, it is almost double the weight of the 70-350mm and also more expensive. That seems excessive for 50mm extra reach. But this lens is now also available on X-mount, where it competes with the 70-300mm and it seems people are happy to choose this one instead for the extra 100mm reach there. (on the other hand, this full frame lens is lighter than Fuji's 100-400mm aps-c lens, but that one is f/5.6 at 400mm, but it does show that in general Fuji builds very heavy lenses!)
Thank you for a great review as always. It's very interesting lens.
Happy Holidays CF!
Great review as always👍
Love your reviews Christopher
I'm back, just picked this up used for $500
The thing about Sigma is that they know how to make a lens that feels good to hold and is nice to look at, too. Nowadays, high quality optics are just not enough to distinguish 3rd party manufacturers from each other because it seems that they all can deliver. Sigma pulls ahead of the pack with well-finished lenses.
Thanks a lot for this test, Chris; I wouldn´t have expected this sharpness from a C Lens but rather from an A Lens. I definitely concider buying one for my A7RII, it absolutely fulfills my expectations and hopefully those of my finance minister 😉.
You were first I always like your reviews! I will be checking out Gordon and Dustin reviews next.
when I see sigma uploading photos about this lens, I immediately see this channel hoping there has been a review, and it turns out to be true.
Generally the sport mode for lens stabilization (in this case would be mode 2 on this lens) only stabilizes the lens when the shutter is clicked. Mode 1 on this lens (which is like Normal IS/VR modes on OEM brands) will stabilize the viewfinder as well but I think the effectiveness when the picture is taken is less (so you run a higher risk of of a soft image than you would with mode 2). That's really the trade off. For Nikon's, it's like using the Normal and Sport modes (Sport would be Mode 2 in this case, and Normal would be mode 1). You just have to decide which mode is best for the situation. Generally I've found Normal modes to work best if you're trying to photograph something still and you are still (you're just trying to counter any slight movement from hand holding on a fixed subject), and Mode 2 is for if you're not still (say your on a boat, or youre panning).
Very impressive optical performance. Can't wait to see what their 70-200 can do.
thanks for the teipod ring replacer rubber, zoom lock and afl buttons. you can never how much they are important.
THat was quick, i just finished their presentation.
Same here
@@wenjiliu3654 I'm still watching the UK presentation here :-)
Christopher Frost Photography haha
When this will come to Canon RF I will buy this in a heartbeat. Great review as always =)
3 yrs later ... Nothing. Glad I left Canon a long time ago.
Hello Chris! Love you videos. I listen to them to help me relax while I'm working. Was wondering if you could do a review of the Sony 20mm f/1.8? For its price point, I've heard great things!
Looks great. Also looks more compact than a EF lens + adaptor setup. I currently have the Tamron 100-400 EF adapted onto the EOS R. I'm quite happy with the results but one of these as a RF mount. I might be tempted to sell and upgrade from the Tamron.
Great review as always..
I'm still waiting for the equivalent of their previous 150-600, but for mirorless :/
Great review as always, cheers!
btw, the new tamron 28-200 looks rather interesting, a review on that any time soon?
i wanna take the time out to say thank you chris i mean seriously you’ve been really consistent with the uploads on lenses i didn’t even know were releasing now i have to get my wallet ready lol
Just wanted to say thank you for the detailed tests in the video - 3 years later, I'm shooting the solar eclipse with this lens, and was trying to choose between, ironically enough, my A7RII and A5100 and determine best aperture settings. On balance, it looks like I'll be shooting it at 400mm with the A5100 at f/8 - fingers crossed for good results!
Those converters are interesting, I would like to see a review with them! I hope to see this lens on the Z mount soon, maybe then?
WoW that looks seriously impressive.
I'm definitely buying this when it's out, Thanks for your review. I think you might have forgotten to mention it only seem to weigh 1135 g which is a big deal for me.
I just bought the ef version 6 weeks ago for my Sony A7 🤦🏽♂️ now I will wait for a 70-200 f4! :D thx for this great review!
I was about to by Sony 70-350mm today, but now wait till it comes in market; compare both and make a correct choice.
Awesome in-depth review yet again.
Just 1 question I have, are the focal lengths mentioned on the test card the value on the lens barrel or is the crop factor added/compensated (X 1.5 or X1.6)
nice review. Best in its class !
That's really sharp lens wow
Mode 2 is for panning primarily horizontal access
Hope you can review the Sony 100-400 at some point. I'd love to see how it compares with this lens.
Hey Chris. Great review so cheers for that. Going by pure image quality alone how would you compare this with the Tamron 70-300? I know the Tamron's corners are bad at 70mm. I will use one of these on a tripod only, for landscapes. Obviously I'd prefer the lighter Tamron but not at the cost of IQ, especially if the difference is more than just minor. Thanks.
Thank you Cristopher
It's a very intriguing lens. I've loved my 70-200 GM, but I've found myself in some situations photographing occasional wildlife or details in landscapes where I want more want more reach. I'm considering a 2X extender, the Sigma 100-400, or the 100-400 GM. The Sony 200-600 is also under consideration, but I'm concerned it's too big to want to travel with or carry around just in case. I'm leaning towards the Sigma, but have plenty of options to consider and don't need to rush on a purchase.
after release there should be more comparisons between that sigma and sony 70 200 gm x2 or sony 100 400 gm. at least I hope for that. pls let us know your decision ;-)
Wow! Fantastic value
yes a review from you!!
I have the new Sigma and other Sony GM OSS lenses and Tamron 150-600mm. I do like the light weight of the Sigma compared to the Tamron. The Sigma OS doesn't seem to be as smooth as the Sony OSS on both apsc and FF Sony cameras (for video work). The Sigma edge sharpness on stills is a bit strong that pics of deer in the grass don't seem as natural as other lenses. Welcome your experience with the Sigma vs Sony GM lens ? Thanks
Great review. Do u think this would be ok for moon shots?
Honestly curious how this would compare to the 70-200gm with 1.5x conv, w/wo apsc mode of r3?
Already have the gm/tc, debating the 200-600 as well. Don't do birds/landscapes, people/events/sports
Please Christopher, make a review with the 1.4 and 2.0 teleconverter! Keep doing your great job!!!
Hi Christopher, thanks for the video. This lens on the a7r2 works eye autofocus?
thank you for the video! did you shoot hand held or using a collar with your test on this lens?
I wonder how the IQ with the 1.4 Tele convertor on FF will compare to using without on apsc
Hi Christopher, thanks fot the video. This sigma 100 400 vs tamron 50 400 which one has better IQ?
Sharp and Sigma are pretty much synonymous now 😂
Exciting times to be a mirrorless shooter.
I may buy one of it for landscape shots. Sometimes my 70-200 GM isn’t long enough and I don’t use the 200-400 range often enough to warrant spending $2500 for the GM.
You can buy 1,4 tc for your 70-200 gm or even 2xtc . Its the easiest way for you. With 1,4 you will have 100-280 f4 lens and with 2x tc - 140-400 f 5.6
I wish sigma would release a version of this for ef-m system. I really want a 100 to 400 for my Canon M50 and can't really decide between the sigma 100-400 and the Tamron 100-400 for the ef. None are perfect options for what I could tell from your reviews. And both have strengths and weaknesses
If you staying outside the US it is advisable to get the lens along with the collar tripod. I bought one without collar tripod which was much cheaper until I found out it was annoying not able to fully utilize the lens. It's quite difficult to get the lens tripod separately in most stores, Now I am thinking abt getting a third party tripod which also hard to find
I just got my copy of this lens yesterday. I'm using on my A7RM2 (firmware 4.0) and I'm completely surprised by the fact that the Eye-AF function doesn't work (I get the "Invalid with the lens" warning). Most other reviews (all using A7M3) say that Eye-AF works fine and now I've seen your review using an A7RM2 and still getting Eye-AF... My camera firmware is 4.0, and doubt that is the issue. I've also noticed that the sharpness of all my shots isn't anywhere close to those I'm seeing on various reviews, including yours. I haven't seen any comments about there being bad copies in circulation, and I've been fortunate to never having had a bad version for any of the many other lenses I use. Any thoughts ?
Nice video. Your videos are always very useful.
I have a question. Why do you use that intermediate points of focal lenths? I mean, the middle between 100mm and 400mm are 200mm, not 250mm. In focal lenght terms, distances are proportionals, not absolutes.
Between 10mm and 15mm, it is a huge difference. Between 400mm and 405mm there ist't any (in this case, 600mm would show the same difference that in the 10-15mm example).
This will go well with my A5100. A nice balanced setup. 😉
Hi, I just got this lens a week ago and I am noticing that the autofocus when shooting in video mode is veeeery slow compared when shooting photos. I mainly do videos and this seems to be an issue for me. I tried it both on my a7iii and a6600 and had the same experience. Have you had similar issues? I also haven't updated the firmware of the lens from 1.0 to 2.0 since I have to ship the lens for that. Thanks!
Point of information about the Sigma teleconverters - they are for L-mount only. Perhaps they'll develop E-mount versions in the future, but don't count on it! Right now, the only teleconverters you can buy for Sony E-mount are Sony's own, very expensive models - which are designed for exclusive compatibility with a limited set of (mostly, very expensive) Sony lenses.
When is Sigma 70-200 2.8 DG DN coming out?
"Zoom in halfways to 250mm ", that a funny slip of the tongue when testing a 400mm lens :) Always love your reviews :)
Halfway between 100-400 is 250, right?
@@mistermadsen if you are thinking 100/2=50 and 400/2=200. 50+200=250mm. Makes sense but in my head it should be 200mm calculated from the max zoom range. How would tou call halfway on a 18-400 lens then ?
@@arildhagen3820 209mm
@@mistermadsen Well I wasn't uncertain on your math skills.
I consider buying this one or the old one to use on my a6600 (old on MC-11) for wildlife. What I care is sharpness at 300-400mm and AF speed and accuracy. Which one would you recommend to me, given that I already own MC-11 and that I can buy the old one used for around 60% of the price of the new version (used but on warranty)?
Going to have to look on this channels site to find a comparison between the Sigma and Tamron 100mm - 400mm lens for dslr's. Thinking of getting one for my Canon camera.
need this one so badly for Nikon Z 🤩
I’m looking for a lens case for this lens (don’t know why it didn’t come with one!) any recommendations?
The rubber band is a creative solution!
i've been using the ef mount version of the sigma 100-400mm c on my M50 and its been brilliant from tubing and converting it down to get 2mm macro on the sensor to stacking converters so 2000mm+ telephoto.
i'd be really interested in a direct comparison of this and the ef one when it comes out fully.
maybe this might prompt sigma to make an m-m mount x2 teleconverter for the canon m when they make it for the system.
i've been looking for an m-m mount x2 for a while.
very much doubt i'd be changing my ef version for the m mount as i have canon origonal tubes and converters, i found third party ones too weak for the heavier lens.
not sure how m mount tubes work fair with this one.
great vid chris, if they come up with the 150-600mm for m mount that would be a delema as i yet to get that one on ef, though the higher price would make me think the ef mount more affordable
I've been thinking about getting the ef mount version for my M50 mk ii. Only concern I have is taking photos of fast moving subjects, e.g. surfers and fast moving wildlife. Would the combination of the M50 and the 100-400 c be able to deal with that? Thanks
@4:21 don’t forget to charge the camera chris 😂😂😂
It's released?! Oh yay
Hello Christopher... sorry the Sigma bag you are taking out from the lens at the very initial part of the video, is it an aftermarket item? My lens came into a cardboard box without any accessories but the sunhood.
Mine gets delivered on the 7th!!!
I have had the lens for a few days. Unfortunately, the front lens barrel extends automatically when the lens is held down. Is that the same with your example? It's quite annoying, unfortunately. Many thanks in advance!
I really wish you would review the Panasonic lenses as I'm on L mount and I want to compare this lens against the Lumix 70-300mm
Thank you for your review Christopher! Your videos are very helpful. Just checking that this lens would pair with the Sony a6000, would i lose image quality? (As this is a full frame lens). I was looking at the 70-350mm Sony lens but I'd like to eventually save up for a full frame body. The Sony lens is also more expensive in my part of the world.
For results on an APS-C camera, watch this video
I am still waiting for some compact primes 300, 400 and 500mm !
Hi Chris. I’ve purchased this fantastic lens after using your review as a guide! I’m thinking of purchasing a teleconverter for increased reach. Do you have any input as to whether the Sigma TC or the Sony TC would perform better? TIA!
I just discovered Sigma only makes their TC to fit the L-mount, so...answered my own question! 👍
Happy holidays!
Are the Teleconverter also available for e-mount?
i have a sony nex-6 and just bought this lens. my camera will not recognize it. it recognizes all my other e mount lenses. am i doing something wrong or is there a problem with the lens? thanks!