The early internet is breaking - here’s how the World Wide Web from the 90s on will be saved

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  • čas přidán 17. 07. 2019
  • The early web looked different than it does today. In the 1990s, the internet was intimate and a bit amateur. Websites were made by everyday people on their personal computers, desktops, with very minimal knowledge of coding or HTML needed.
    Software becomes obsolete - Flash which made much of the early web run, will be shut down in 2020.
    People stop paying for domain names.
    Companies like Netscape or GeoCities or MySpace that host websites and online communities go out of business, or get sold (to Yahoo! for example).
    The internet is not forever, it can break and disappear.
    Olia Lialina and Dragan Espenschied are part of a growing group of people who preserve and archive our online digital history. They see the web from the 90s and 2000s as an artifact, at times, even, Net Art.
    Dragan/Olia's Tumblr: / oneterabyteofkilobyteage
    Webrecorder: webrecorder.io/
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Komentáře • 995

  • @hotseventyfive
    @hotseventyfive Před 4 lety +1232

    2005: be careful what you put in the internet, it’ll be there forever
    2019:

    • @20035079
      @20035079 Před 4 lety +61

      posts are temporary, screenshots are forever

    • @sweiland75
      @sweiland75 Před 4 lety +32

      1999: This Internet thing is gonna be huge!
      2019: I wish we could go back to before memes took over CZcams.

    • @hullstar242
      @hullstar242 Před 4 lety +17

      sweiland75 did you live back then? CZcams was literally ALL memes.

    • @crnkmnky
      @crnkmnky Před 4 lety +12

      @@hullstar242 "Literally?" You mean it wasn't vacation videos and webcam test footage?

    • @justsomeone4347
      @justsomeone4347 Před 4 lety

      They stay if someone tries

  • @nirui.o
    @nirui.o Před 4 lety +2128

    In the 90s, the Internet was like a independent country. Everything is so chaos, vibrant and personal. Today, you are bound to few companies that put their rules in front their users.
    The most sad thing is, people has forgotten that they are creators, and they don't need someone grant them that title.

    • @KirbyLinkACW
      @KirbyLinkACW Před 4 lety +59

      Well, there's also the day Net Neutrality was established. And the day it was repealed...

    • @capnbarky2682
      @capnbarky2682 Před 4 lety +37

      Except it's not
      The greater internet is more varied and vibrant than ever, most people just literally dont know how to access websites safely outside of apps.

    • @razzlfraz
      @razzlfraz Před 4 lety +6

      @@fluffmiceter1846 It has for me. I'm on gigabit duplex fiber. (I've been on fiber since 2001.) I'm allowed to use 1% of my upload for anything during off hours, and a little less than 0.1% during busy hours, and 10% of my download. Everything else has to be in AT&Ts fast lane, so getting a proxy of vpn doesn't help. Some websites I visit download like dialup now, despite me having a 1.5ms ping time and the server is down the street. Before the end of net neutrality even people on cable with the common 20mbps upload in this part of the world, it was far faster than what I have today. Please please please, get net neutrality back. It's only going to get worse in the future.

    • @ryanm1630
      @ryanm1630 Před 4 lety

      KirbyLinkACW literally nothing has changed

    • @Miquelalalaa
      @Miquelalalaa Před 4 lety +6

      Rui Ni And governments are controlling, regulating, and censuring the internet to their will.

  • @yussefjeber3904
    @yussefjeber3904 Před 4 lety +1369

    Preserve 90s Internet for the sake of the future of vaporwave aesthetics

    • @q_q123
      @q_q123 Před 4 lety +18

      They're good vaporwave material

    • @AnotherWorldYT
      @AnotherWorldYT Před 4 lety +8

      @Serious Face two separate things and one in the same nowadays

    • @hardyzme
      @hardyzme Před 4 lety +4

      In the 90s there were no brown pakistanis on the internet

    • @romarbetc123
      @romarbetc123 Před 4 lety +7

      This stuff is incredibly a e s t h e t i c

    • @abishaakmal7455
      @abishaakmal7455 Před 4 lety

      @@GodsBadAssBlade outrun is basicly synthwave... 80s vaporwave is 90s

  • @BvousBrainSystems
    @BvousBrainSystems Před 4 lety +1890

    Of all the videos sponsored by Squarespace, they really should have sponsored this one

    • @daniele9209
      @daniele9209 Před 4 lety +134

      They basically said that all the new websites sucks because thanks to programs like squarespace they all look alike.
      How does this sounds like a good marketing campaign to you?

    • @yudikurina1871
      @yudikurina1871 Před 4 lety +14

      you didnt watch through the whole video Bvous :/

    • @technopoptart
      @technopoptart Před 4 lety

      @@daniele9209 yes.

    • @Toxodos
      @Toxodos Před 4 lety +4

      that's a major point, even if you cut out the explicit mention, it's pretty much implied

    • @opus53waldstein70
      @opus53waldstein70 Před 4 lety +4

      I wish to have also recording archives of CZcams before 2010s, because all I hear now is excessive uptalk -_-

  • @pepsijazz462
    @pepsijazz462 Před 4 lety +944

    So much from the 90's and early 2000's internet culture has been lost.

    • @eduardocampos5739
      @eduardocampos5739 Před 4 lety +22

      That squiggle will live on

    • @ar_xiv
      @ar_xiv Před 4 lety +19

      And all that remains is dixie cup bullshit

    • @jayfawn8478
      @jayfawn8478 Před 4 lety +25

      Tbh, today's webpages are more appealing. clean, user friendly and sleek

    • @linadw
      @linadw Před 4 lety +87

      @@jayfawn8478 It's true -- it's precisely because of universal UX design principles that all websites look the same these days, for optimal usability. But as the video points out, it means that all the distinct personalities of the old era of webpages are gone. They might have been crappy looking, but at least people were able to design them in a way that really reflected their sense of self.

    • @ar_xiv
      @ar_xiv Před 4 lety +3

      ( I like Dixie cup bullshit btw)

  • @WarpedBlinds
    @WarpedBlinds Před 4 lety +376

    The old internet was more personal. Today's internet just feels like a giant ad :/

    • @kosmique
      @kosmique Před 4 lety +60

      because thats basically what it is now. just cookie cutter bullshit for the masses because big corps need us lemmings fed with their shit day in and day out. the internet used to be the best escape one could have... now you get ran out by the toxic scum thats everywhere. it went mainstream, and turned into shit once too many people got connected.
      in the 90s people were sharing something special. its just a dumpsterfire now.

    • @ukkomies100
      @ukkomies100 Před 4 lety

      This

    • @shin-ishikiri-no
      @shin-ishikiri-no Před 4 lety +2

      @@kosmique Not enuff upvotes.

    • @JosipMiller
      @JosipMiller Před 4 lety

      So true. I remember my first website, devoted to music and audio. I n every part of that website people can feel YOU speaking about things.

    • @kylehill3643
      @kylehill3643 Před 4 lety +4

      Smartphone mindset! They mostly do shopping. When smartphones first came out I'll never forget the ads of teenage girls holding them and scrolling fast to their favorite shopping sites. That favors over personalism. We are under 'crapitalism'.

  • @damian9303
    @damian9303 Před 4 lety +283

    That's kinda sad to see people who ran those sites say 'BE PATIENT I'M WORKING ON IT' yet a final product was never made

  • @Goldenclap
    @Goldenclap Před 4 lety +115

    I'm so intrigued by the aesthetic and limitations of older websites. Even when they look awful, the charm is unmistakable while every modern site feels like an apple store, selling me stuff at every turn.

    • @NaldinhoGX
      @NaldinhoGX Před 8 měsíci +3

      Back when the internet was managed and kept alive by the users themselves with little to no corporation influencing any interaction. Today, everything's polluted because the users no longer have control over it - we let others "do the job" for us just for the sake of convenience; therefore, like you mentioned, the internet now feels like an infinite advertisements playground where creativity is killed more and more every day.

  • @hasztagpuasko9349
    @hasztagpuasko9349 Před 4 lety +714

    the conclusion is - Yahoo destroys the internet. First they bought geocities to close it down and then tumblr to ruin it~

    • @Cheezburgercatz
      @Cheezburgercatz Před 4 lety +82

      hasztagpułasko large companies destroy everything by buying IPs and services they have no intention of maintaining or caring about for the user base. Instead cutting it off after it stops being a zero effort money farm or the ads they load it with don’t work for revenue bc everyone’s broke or the service should be free lol

    • @GeorgiaOverdrive
      @GeorgiaOverdrive Před 4 lety +9

      Excuse me, what is this Yahoo?

    • @ItsBrendo
      @ItsBrendo Před 4 lety +16

      Honey, tumblr was ruined long before Yahoo acquired it.

    • @sentrysapper45
      @sentrysapper45 Před 4 lety +17

      It's not just Yahoo: Google, Viacom, Warner Bros...pretty much all tech and media giants share the blame in this. Just look at what happened here on CZcams after Google bought it out. I have an old account I made back in 2006, and the Favorites playlist is a video graveyard from deleted channels, many of which fell victim to spurious copyright strikes from entities like WMG. Meanwhile Google did and still does practically nothing to stop it while their anti-consumer algorithms strangle the once-vibrant creativity and expressiveness of early CZcams.
      Big business in conjunction with government officials they've bought out are slowly turning the internet into a sterile, corporate-friendly hellscape. Things are only going to get worse with recent developments like the end of net neutrality here in the US and Article 13 in the EU. Now more than ever preservation of the early internet is essential, as its freewheeling, almost anarchic ways might just provide the solutions we need.

    • @AsphaltAntelope
      @AsphaltAntelope Před 4 lety +5

      @@ItsBrendo Babe, it wasn't. Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean that it wasn't working well for the communities that thrived there - be they furries or sapio-pan-quasi-sexuals or whatever. It's easy to take the piss out of them but they had a community and a place to group together and it worked well for them. Fuck Yahoo. They killed Flickr too. How the fuck can you kill Flickr?

  • @marcusatiusvirilis7723
    @marcusatiusvirilis7723 Před 4 lety +83

    The internet may have been much simpler, but there was a better mindset. You weren't only a user, you were a builder. It was decentralized and mostly anonymous. I think we should bring back this stuff or at least the mentality.

    • @ruggjay
      @ruggjay Před 4 lety +3

      be the change you want to see

    • @bluex217
      @bluex217 Před rokem +6

      It was also a goldmine for freelancing frontend developers. Nowadays, small and even medium sized businesses opt for a FB page and have much less need for a website

    • @forestjohnson7474
      @forestjohnson7474 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I 2nd that

  • @draizze8329
    @draizze8329 Před 4 lety +108

    Ah, geocities. I remembered making own personal page after learning HTML. It's like decorating your own room then show it off to friends.

  • @Bruno-qw8gl
    @Bruno-qw8gl Před 4 lety +28

    Goodbye, flash player, you made the childhood for many

  • @japzone
    @japzone Před 4 lety +141

    And now Flash is being retired in a year, breaking even more stuff from the 2000s. Tons of old Flash games and animations especially. Thankfully BlueMaxima's FlashPoint is scrambling to archive it all, but it'll still just be a drop in the bucket.

    • @xanescent
      @xanescent Před 4 lety +5

      japzone I’m actually downloading as many old games as I can from my childhood that were flash games. Although I can’t get everything, and many have already been deleted :(

    • @japzone
      @japzone Před 4 lety +5

      @@toad8840 Browsers are dropping support for Flash because it's a security risk. The plugin APIs that Flash uses have pretty much been retired already, and the only reason Flash still works is because browser makers made short-term concessions to it in order to ease the transition. Flash really isn't necessary anymore, it's just that there's still a ton of legacy content that's floating out there. It's not a problem that could be solved with a petition. You'd be better off just doing what you can to support things like Archive.org and BlueMaxima's FlashPoint.

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish Před 4 lety +4

      toad adobe? It has nothing to do with adobe. It’s google / chrome who is deprecating the support of automatic flash embedding.
      And of course since Adobe knew this they discontinued their evolution of flash.
      Instead flash as a forward is now called adobe Animate and outputs HTLM5.
      So you can make the same stuff with flash today and run it without a flash player.
      This happened like 5 years ago...
      Now it’s the official deprecation happening. It’s done. You are a little late with your petition. About 5 year late :)

    • @WindowsEater
      @WindowsEater Před 4 lety +6

      RIP Everybody Edits, Possibly Newgrounds, and most likely *EVERY **_SINGLE_* flash gaming site there is/was.

    • @moochincrawdad
      @moochincrawdad Před 4 lety +1

      Does anyone know how to download "Capoeira Fighter 3" so it'll run standalone?

  • @dualshock3462
    @dualshock3462 Před 4 lety +17

    I don't miss only the early 00s style, I miss the state of the internet of the early 00s. Back then you could use the internet in internet cafe where you had to pay for using it or at home only with computer and some of them were limited (some people couldn't use the phone and internet at the same time) so you could control your "addiction" by just leaving the house and visit clubs, cafes, malls and other places that don't have internet cafe. Today every place has wi-fi, you can't visit places to hang out and talk to normal people anymore, internet connection is everywhere and everybody has phones that fit in their pocket so they are online 24/7. Even people who couldn't 10 years ago use a computer let alone use the internet are now on social media 24/7 thanks to wi-fi and smartphones. Internet was in the early 00s a magical place, today it became a drug for everybody

  • @JayFGrissom
    @JayFGrissom Před 4 lety +158

    Wow... this made me realize how much I miss this (angelfire, geocities, altavista, dialup bbs, aol, junos, etc...) weirdness of my youth.
    Great video.
    Sigh. I feel super nostalgic now.

    • @junelynn63
      @junelynn63 Před 4 lety +2

      Angelfire made me attempt to learn html

    • @RealIllumin
      @RealIllumin Před 4 lety +3

      Ah Altavista... How I loved thee!
      Best search engine ever.
      Until you know who bought and killed it.

    • @JayFGrissom
      @JayFGrissom Před 4 lety +2

      @@RealIllumin - In hindsight they could have called it "Ya-HALT-avista". Yahoo's approach to halt the competition.

    • @RealIllumin
      @RealIllumin Před 4 lety +2

      @@JayFGrissom Agreed, "broke" my internet heart back in the day when it went downhill.
      Never used anything Yahoo since.

    • @ilhaanf663
      @ilhaanf663 Před 3 lety +2

      Altavista, that was our Google back then. You're taking me back, back to my teen years

  • @Aerojet01
    @Aerojet01 Před 4 lety +28

    I do miss the early years of the internet when it was relatively new and amateurish. When I first connected to the web, back in the 90's, everyone online appeared very friendly and helpful. I was amazed that you could talk to people from around the world. across America, Canada, Europe, Australia, China etc... Browsing new websites was like an adventure. I used to write them down in a notebook and later revisit them. I would stay up at night and spend hours chatting to random people on kinds of topics. Nowadays, if you try to chat to random people on the net, most of them are either rude, threatening or they'll block you. It's a completely different cyber world to the one I remember and it's also big business. People who are abusive on the net, 9 times out of 10, they’re abusive offline. It's not the internet's fault, it's a social problem society needs to address.

  • @kaibaCorpHQ
    @kaibaCorpHQ Před 4 lety +194

    That's what I hate about FaceBook the most today, I hated FB back then for it, and I still hate it for it today (and other numerous privacy reasons aswell more recently); FB was stale, it was white and blue, and no personality, Myspace was the opposite of that, so customizable and yet uniform is what won out.

    • @ian_b
      @ian_b Před 4 lety +8

      OS's are the same. The Win 10 interface isn't as awful looking as Win 8, but I am still mystified as to why they think it's more stylish to be unable to tell where one window ends and another one starts.

    • @ella1135
      @ella1135 Před 4 lety +25

      And an awful uniform. I think Facebook looks so messy and ugly. No personality at all

    • @bilbo_gamers6417
      @bilbo_gamers6417 Před 4 lety +5

      @@ian_b XP and 7 had a different kind of feel to them.

    • @ian_b
      @ian_b Před 4 lety

      @@bilbo_gamers6417 I liked Win 7, but with the classic Start Menu added back in. Much of what they've taken out was to make the interface run on low end devices and small screens, and they stripped out most of the customisation. I still resent (on 10) having such limited colour choices.

    • @BSIII
      @BSIII Před 4 lety +6

      @@ian_b exactly. I couldnt understand why everyone was flocking over to a flavorless, sterile, datamining site like facebook from the customizable myspace. The fact that I couldnt upload my music straight to facebook like my myspace, made me stay away for a while. Buuuttt, i eventually made a fb to find my sister, who i havent heard from in years, and myspace died... i still regret making my fb. I hate that platform. When i stopped logging on, it started sending me updates through my text messages, which i never asked them to do. Fb is a DARPA project, called 'lifelog' re-branded as facebook. Look that one up

  • @lidette711
    @lidette711 Před 4 lety +81

    My last HTML school web design project was a site for my favorite manga. Damn, those were the days.

  • @infesticon
    @infesticon Před 4 lety +234

    The white backgrounds really suck though, Like staring at a goddamm lightbulb. I do miss how personal websites used to be. Geocities was great.

    • @infesticon
      @infesticon Před 4 lety +1

      @@toad8840 Give me some tips where to look dude.

    • @shaggypoo4120
      @shaggypoo4120 Před 4 lety +3

      @@infesticon neocities

    • @infesticon
      @infesticon Před 4 lety +2

      @@shaggypoo4120 nice one thank you.

    • @electron8262
      @electron8262 Před 4 lety +2

      @@shaggypoo4120 Yessss! Thanks for the tip!

    • @catcatdeluxe1332
      @catcatdeluxe1332 Před 4 lety +1

      @@shaggypoo4120 yeah i use that

  • @ChristianJiang
    @ChristianJiang Před 4 lety +197

    2:23 Dragon, but with an “A”
    Me: Wait, “Dragon” already has an “A”!

  • @spiderliliez
    @spiderliliez Před 4 lety +244

    AHAAHHAHAA... I was one of those people who created those crazy cluttered websites back in the late 90s, complete with distracting button GIFs. I think it was uploaded at Angelfire or Geocities. I remember my first website was a fansite about a Brazilian volleyball player who plays at the Women's Grand Prix. I wish I had saved those html files. I dunno where they went now!

    • @mancerrss
      @mancerrss Před 4 lety +4

      Thank you for influencing the current internet culture we have now, that back then was ridiculed is a shame, now it's mainstream!!

    • @spiderliliez
      @spiderliliez Před 4 lety +5

      @Christian William yes, oh my word... IKR? Oh the golden days of the internet, hahahah.. Oh and the Brazilian player was Leila Barros... ahahahah!

    • @notinuse926
      @notinuse926 Před 4 lety +1

      @@spiderliliez oh she's a senator now and she's causing quite an uproar with the gamer community saying that games aren't sports (e-sports i mean)

    • @crnkmnky
      @crnkmnky Před 4 lety +2

      @@notinuse926 😯 ooh, edgy. Hopefully that discussion didn't get _too_ vicious, and hopefully the senator was able to observe real e-sports competitors to inform her opinion.

    • @spiderliliez
      @spiderliliez Před 4 lety

      @Christian William ahahahaha.. actually i am not in the US. The Women's Grand Prix Tour use to frequent Asian countries in the late 90s. I remember watching Brazil VS. Cuba, and it was so intense! And Leila was sooo adorable with her short hair back then (she is still gorgeous until now). I met her and Ricarda Lima quite a few times during their tour!! The Brazilian team was warm and friendly, I remember that. And, yes!!! I heard about her being a Senator now! I'm very very happy for her!!! Are you from Brazil?!!

  • @azazellon
    @azazellon Před 4 lety +33

    My uncle threw away a Windows 95 For Dummies book, I just liked reading about the early internet terms and like, stumbling around the net.

    • @cavejohnson4306
      @cavejohnson4306 Před 4 lety

      I think the original space jam website is still up, so if you want to see a still working website from 1996 try to find it.

    • @robobox7595
      @robobox7595 Před 4 lety +1

      I have that book, there is little about the internet execpt for info about HyperTerminal and MSN.

    • @azazellon
      @azazellon Před 4 lety

      @@robobox7595 yeah it was basically "how to use a computer" in 1995

    • @Josephwilliemrice
      @Josephwilliemrice Před 3 lety

      @@cavejohnson4306 i tried to go to it recently, now its just a website for the new space jam movie.

  • @konstantingeist3587
    @konstantingeist3587 Před 4 lety +13

    the Internet is becoming more TV-like

    • @tornadomimicyclone6707
      @tornadomimicyclone6707 Před 4 lety +3

      Actually, it's going on the same route as ITV: From a bunch of regions with unique identities to one effectively homogenized look.

  • @setsuro.splice
    @setsuro.splice Před 4 lety +20

    my sentiments exactly. websites these days lacks any... personal touch. I miss the late 1990s and early 2000s. sighhh, good times, good times.

  • @susiemurray8599
    @susiemurray8599 Před 4 lety +5

    im 14 so i never even lived in the 90s but this makes me feel a strange sense of nostalgia for a life ill never live

  • @papasmurfsmurfy6360
    @papasmurfsmurfy6360 Před 4 lety +54

    The same thing happened to film 100 years ago. At least something is happening about it this time.

    • @im.empimp
      @im.empimp Před 4 lety

      e.g. Dr. Who ˚‧º·(˚ ˃̣̣̥᷄⌓˂̣̣̥᷅ )‧º·˚

    • @tornadomimicyclone6707
      @tornadomimicyclone6707 Před 4 lety +1

      Not to mention Always Online DRM, which leads to games getting nuked when that shouldn't be the case.

  • @renee1390
    @renee1390 Před 4 lety +29

    “Then they got married..... to each other”
    Oh my god they were roommates

  • @OneyButtwillies
    @OneyButtwillies Před 2 lety +13

    Im a constant and avid web archivist, and knowing there are people like me saving rare things from the deep pits of the internet is so relieving and amazingly helpful. Like if something goes down, theres always a chance a datahoarder out there has what youre looking for.

  • @cyberponiez
    @cyberponiez Před 4 lety +40

    I love the old internet so much. I’m too young to have experienced it in its prime, so I’ve been using Neocities. I’ve been able to make my own 90s-esque website and be in a community of people doing the same thing!

    • @cyberponiez
      @cyberponiez Před 4 lety +12

      that being said - use neocities! it’s perfect!

    • @Lawrie_had_sex_and_you_dont
      @Lawrie_had_sex_and_you_dont Před měsícem

      I agree, but it is mostly middle web (2000s), but anyways still classified as early web

  • @eklim2034
    @eklim2034 Před 4 lety +65

    internet was meant to level playing field, it was not meant for high concentration of power into very few players, let's hope internet 2.0 blockchain technology would help realising internet's original purpose

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish Před 4 lety +4

      EK Lim nope it was just a medium. That evolved. And with that comercial thinking entered. Like in all other mediums.

    • @TorreFernand
      @TorreFernand Před 4 lety +1

      the "Web 2.0" moniker refers to... the comments section
      Web 3.0 just means more metadata (i.e. web pages being written more for search engines than for humans)

  • @ladymecha8718
    @ladymecha8718 Před 4 lety +53

    I had a geocities page, and it was special to me. I still have my website backed up on my computer. I do miss the citizenship it had and gave you.

    • @SleepingCocoon
      @SleepingCocoon Před 4 lety +16

      reupload it to neocities!

    • @FarrFromPerfect
      @FarrFromPerfect Před 4 lety +1

      I used to have my winamp playlist on one. It was live updated once a week. I miss that.

  • @MapleMilk
    @MapleMilk Před 4 lety +20

    The early web is its own form of art
    It's got an aesthetic untapped since proto vaporwave

  • @mat2468xk
    @mat2468xk Před 4 lety +185

    I know it's not that old, but I mostly miss the culture and mindset of the 2007 - 2013 internet era. The "lol random epic win xD" culture back then was honestly endearing, and I feel like the memes were mostly focused on having fun. I like the improvements on the internet in general nowadays, and I still like some of the memes. Maybe I was too young to understand, but I feel like people were much "nicer" in that era.The sheer amounts of edgelords in social media is honestly just exhausting to look at already. Sure, there were edgy content in that era, but I feel like it's fewer or at least harder to find (i.e. you have to dig deeper into certain sites). That, and I'm pretty sure some of them weren't too hostile (some of the memes now are straight to the point harassment).
    Well, at least the screamers disappeared. That's one thing I don't miss from the 2007 - 2013 internet era, lmao. So glad for that.

    • @JeanPKlaus
      @JeanPKlaus Před 4 lety +29

      I have to agree with the sentiment. It felt like the internet was much nicer back then as well. I didn't feel like I had to defend myself against countless shitlords and edge masters as I do today. Online now adays feels - I don't know how it got this bad. But I been playing online games since online games existed. People were much nicer in MMOs for example, someone would walk up to you and be like, you're new lemme show you what you need to do. Where as I started an MMO in todays culture and you aren't greeted by a random stranger just helping you out, you just meet people on the chatbox telling you to "git gud" and you're like....okay thanks I guess. Or for example the fighting game community I find atrocious and bars people of different skill levels because of the git gud cultures. How this applies online is Discord and VC online is just kind of toxic.

    • @q_q123
      @q_q123 Před 4 lety +15

      I agree so much to this. I miss saying "rawr XD", "yolo swag", or "trololol". The internet had personality and was actually fun. Now it's just toxic.

    • @kosmique
      @kosmique Před 4 lety +7

      people were much nicer back then, the internet was more special ...now everybody just has it , even the dumb people ;)

    • @connors3356
      @connors3356 Před 4 lety +6

      I wholeheartedly agree man. Im not nostalgic for anything, but there definitely was a shift in 2014-15 in the internet. Everything ebbs and flows I guess

    • @danielsjohnson
      @danielsjohnson Před 4 lety +5

      I think one of the reasons why the early internet, and to a lesser extent the 2007-2013 era, had less edgelords was because the barrier to entry was higher. People were on the internet because they wanted to be, they knew how to, and had some specific purpose. Today, being online is the default way of life for most people. Being the default, naturally, means you get more low quality junk than if being offline was the default.

  • @andree1991
    @andree1991 Před 4 lety +35

    This is such an important thing to do. They truly are heroes

  • @avatarmary
    @avatarmary Před 4 lety +36

    Reminds me of in the 90s and early 00s when I'd look at sailor moon and ronin warriors stuff online...good times

  • @mind-of-neo
    @mind-of-neo Před 4 lety +9

    I LIVE for the 90s cyber aesthetic so it's very important to me for these early internet websites to be preserved so they can be explored and enjoyed forever.

  • @WebGoonie
    @WebGoonie Před 4 lety +14

    Be sure to sign my Guest Book!
    I miss these days. Websites took forever to load but dang was it worth it.

    • @kylehill3643
      @kylehill3643 Před 4 lety +1

      Guest book page not found! Whoops! :)

  • @frogsfoot
    @frogsfoot Před 11 měsíci +4

    it’s sad to see everyone mourning the indie web when it’s still out there! places like neocities (a geocities revival project) are a great springboard for finding people who still treat the internet like a blank canvas. you can make a bad website too! everyone i’ve met there has been so friendly and willing to help people with a limited knowledge of html coding! the best way to prevent something from disappearing is to make more of it!

  • @drewbocop
    @drewbocop Před 4 lety +12

    Back in the mid to late 90s, my sister who was older than me learned HTML, I learned HTML/CSS at age 8, all my friends began learning to do web dev and we were all webmasters of our own shitty little hand-coded web sites. As kids. I miss those days quite honestly. The nostalgia is very real and I absolutely commend these people for trying to preserve the old net. It is very important to me and many other people.

  • @Matando
    @Matando Před 4 lety +161

    Holy crap... I'm only 26 yet this video made me feel so OLD! I remember all of this.... Oof

    • @UltraNyan
      @UltraNyan Před 4 lety +12

      You sound like 16

    • @sebastiansanchez2776
      @sebastiansanchez2776 Před 4 lety +5

      You look like an egg

    • @supasempai
      @supasempai Před 4 lety +3

      Same here, but aside from website, MIRC, Yahoo Messenger, damn it, back then, the web was very personalize and literally sociable

    • @drewtheartists8479
      @drewtheartists8479 Před 4 lety +1

      I’m 18 so I can’t remember the earlier internet or the 90s

    • @Matando
      @Matando Před 4 lety +4

      @@supasempai I've logged into BBS via a phone line. This predated the internet...... Oof

  • @gkv633
    @gkv633 Před 4 lety +19

    Brings back nostalgic memories from 2007 when I first used internet. Everything has changed so much.

    • @FaaduProductions
      @FaaduProductions Před 4 lety

      Do you remember free loop gprs?

    • @joseherrera5264
      @joseherrera5264 Před 4 lety

      Same! Though I first was online around 2009. I was 9 at the time :p

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish Před 4 lety +2

      You should have been around in 1994. They we can talk about things changing

    • @FaaduProductions
      @FaaduProductions Před 4 lety +1

      @@litjellyfish r/gatekeeping

    • @shyguy85
      @shyguy85 Před 4 lety +1

      @@FaaduProductions lmao ok redditor

  • @Aerynvala
    @Aerynvala Před 4 lety +8

    That was fun, seeing my old GeoCities site in this. And I'm glad people are archiving the web.

  • @tonykuchar3237
    @tonykuchar3237 Před 4 lety +11

    if you're into mid-late 90s internet culture and aesthetics you gotta play the game Hypnospace Outlaw

  • @alejandraesquer155
    @alejandraesquer155 Před 4 lety +6

    Who else used to visit cartoon doll geocities websites in the early oughts? Drag-n-drop dollmakers, blinkies,tagboards? THIS is what we did as pre-teens. Learn to draw pixel kawaii poo on ms paint long before it became main stream...meet other pre-teen girls on forums dedicated to said cute graphics. ;~; miss those times.

  • @Imissthefuhrer
    @Imissthefuhrer Před 4 lety +17

    This was the golden age of the net, no censorship!

  • @MikeDragon
    @MikeDragon Před 4 lety +4

    I've been a user of the early web. Connecting via dial-up on a Pentium III late at night because it was cheaper and less likely that someone would use the phone to make or receive a call, wait several hours to download an MP3, chat with friends on MSN Messenger under Windows 98, ME and 2000 on a 15" CRT monitor, making backups on 1.44MB floppy disks, playing games off of CD-ROMs for countless hours, waiting several minutes for a site to load, spending hours doing image searches on Internet Explorer 5... Good times. Good memories. :')

  • @RudieObias
    @RudieObias Před 4 lety +11

    I remember when you had to dial into the internet and if you didn't have a dedicated phone line, no one in your house could make or receive calls. We also all didn't have smartphones or even cell phones back then either. You'd have to hope you weren't going to get an important phone call when you were online back in the '90s.

    • @Qznews
      @Qznews  Před 4 lety +3

      Ah yes! Some of us at Quartz remember the 'cool' friends with a second phone line just for the internet.

    • @RudieObias
      @RudieObias Před 4 lety +2

      @@Qznews Also, all websites should bring back guestbooks. Haha!

    • @Qznews
      @Qznews  Před 4 lety +1

      Wonderful suggestion! LOL!!!

    • @nowthatsjustducky
      @nowthatsjustducky Před 4 lety

      Actually, they could make outgoing calls. All they had to do was pick up the phone to knock you offline, hang up, then pick it up again. :)

    • @nowthatsjustducky
      @nowthatsjustducky Před 4 lety

      @@Qznews Remember how that newfangled phone feature known as Call Waiting would kill your connection? And back then, even if you did have a dedicated second line, those telemarketers and robocallers could not tell the difference between a line being used for voice and one for data, so your dedicated line was just as vulnerable to being called by these early parasites as your voice line.
      Fortunately, I think it was *70 before the phone number that disabled call waiting. No idea nowadays.

  • @zotac1018
    @zotac1018 Před 4 lety +85

    Hey, there is this website called as the internet archive please go and check that out if you are interested.
    It has been doing the stuff they are talking about here for years now.

  • @wayfarerzen3393
    @wayfarerzen3393 Před 4 lety +4

    Archiveteam, you guys are heroes. This is so much more important than a lot of people realize.

  • @ravenphin2406
    @ravenphin2406 Před 4 lety +11

    30 years from now I bet that there’ll be digital historians saving the memes from our time 😂

    • @toasterbotnet
      @toasterbotnet Před 4 lety +7

      Datahoarders is the correct nomenclature and we are already on it. Quietly collecting content on our storage servers.

    • @LongTailCat3
      @LongTailCat3 Před 10 měsíci

      most memes after 2018 arent worth saving

  • @Lunamine
    @Lunamine Před 2 lety +3

    The web felt like an escape world back then, now it just feels like an extension of our own reality.

  • @FAB1150
    @FAB1150 Před 4 lety +10

    And this is why Quartz will never be sponsored by squarespace again

  • @mittelego1098
    @mittelego1098 Před 5 měsíci +4

    The old internet was so much better. Everything has been commercialized nowadays.

  • @muglymae7408
    @muglymae7408 Před 4 lety +5

    i miss seeing the old geocities, angelfire, and tripod hosted sites. they made going on the Internet exciting and an adventure

  • @ingframin
    @ingframin Před 4 lety +2

    What I miss the most was the content. Nowadays, people are obsessed with the “attention span” and do not write a lot of actual content anymore. Also, I remember that there were way less ads. Now you need to dig into the ads to find what you are looking for. The last thing that I miss is the discovery. Now people are tracked and only gets presented what an algorithm wants them to see. Back then there was more exploration freedom.

  • @CS-nw9si
    @CS-nw9si Před 4 lety +2

    I taught myself basic HTML on the Nickelodeon message boards when I was a kid. Flash going away now makes me so sad. I miss the early Internet so much.

  • @ethan82714
    @ethan82714 Před 4 lety +22

    At least my HTML and CSS skills look old style. Because I'm bad at HTML and CSS.

  • @jamestheminorbender4978
    @jamestheminorbender4978 Před 4 lety +6

    Vaporwave aesthetics or Anything related to aesthetics will surely save this piece of beauty

  • @VITORB82
    @VITORB82 Před 4 lety +2

    OMG the nostalgia... these years made me want to be a web developer...so much freedom. I miss thise days. Will investigate more this project.

  • @nasranruwaidi
    @nasranruwaidi Před 4 lety +7

    My first web page was hosted on Tripod.
    Best viewed with Netscape Navigator. 😃

  • @AamirBilal
    @AamirBilal Před 4 lety +19

    "Very short period of my life when I was making fun." Sums up my life. 01:12

  • @Me-rd7po
    @Me-rd7po Před 4 lety +4

    When I was 8 I learned html and made my website. It was a totally chatic site. I put cats pics , pink buttons , a pink meniu bar and a pastel pink search bar.
    I forgot the name but I would love to see it again.

  • @xIzephael
    @xIzephael Před 4 lety +17

    Let's face it, we may fantasize on the feeling of personality personal web pages had, but if someone would make a personal site today, you would not log into it as frequently as you did back then.
    We all stay confined to our main big sites and social medias, and the other ones are there for you to find an information and then be forgotten.

    • @Qznews
      @Qznews  Před 4 lety +6

      This is true, not only has the look of the internet changed - but also the way we use the internet.

    • @AverageGuy2002
      @AverageGuy2002 Před 4 lety

      Don't worry Google won't exist(probably) in next 100 years

  • @zinAab79
    @zinAab79 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I love internet, I know is old and unusable, but it was honest and manually crafted by people, now with all experts and templates it all feels perfect and profesionally done, all blogs look the same, similar happens with new pages, all of them asking you to log in with your gmail account, is boring. Old webs were just a mistery into the mind of the creators, entering a new section felt like really entering a new space designed for it, it was fun to grow on these times.

  • @bryanpedrosa8061
    @bryanpedrosa8061 Před 4 lety +6

    I don't know but I like old web page designs. It's my AEsthetic.

  • @humphrey-7094
    @humphrey-7094 Před 4 lety +6

    I think 90s internet might come back in another form. More and more people are learning about web development, so I'm sure we'll be generating more ideas and therefore more kinds of websites.

  • @MustKillAxel
    @MustKillAxel Před rokem +2

    I love this ! It's indeed important to keep the old internet because it's easy to forget the past but when you do you repeat the same errors !

  • @jamestheminorbender4978
    @jamestheminorbender4978 Před 4 lety +10

    My obsession with aethetics and old stuffs is quacking right now.

  • @AfkaSound
    @AfkaSound Před 4 lety +9

    God bless my childhood, filled with dragonballz animations and geocities

  • @Phlegethon
    @Phlegethon Před 4 lety +51

    look at these old people pretending like they don't know how to navigate the internet in the 90s when they actually lived through it.

    • @Qznews
      @Qznews  Před 4 lety +15

      Sick burn 🔥

    • @xtrashocking
      @xtrashocking Před 4 lety +1

      hahahahha

    • @kylehill3643
      @kylehill3643 Před 4 lety +1

      I miss Lycos.

    • @nowthatsjustducky
      @nowthatsjustducky Před 4 lety

      Could be a use it or lose it thing. I'm finally getting around to getting an old Linux system back up and running, and am also looking at tinkering around with some classic DOS/Win 3.x era systems and I know it is going to take me a good while just to get back up to speed on the old school hardware.
      That is likely why I keep procrastinating those activities, so those projects are currently Under Construction

  • @Big-Chungus21
    @Big-Chungus21 Před 4 měsíci

    Almost every website you visit nowadays is beautifully designed, and has decades of research of psychology and art behind it, making it as navigatable and pleasing on the eyes as possible.
    Old websites kind of let you appreciate how much effort goes into the average website nowadays, but its also just fun. I do kind of wish more people made their own websites.

  • @TheStarBlack
    @TheStarBlack Před 4 lety +1

    I remember building an angelfire page in the late 90s to post photos of our nights out before Facebook or MySpace. Funny thing is, digital cameras were incredibly rare back then so I'd take photos on film then scan them into my PC to upload! Used to take hours now you can do it in seconds on your phone!

  • @lovemymouthnotmouthulcers

    this actually makes me emotional

  • @DavidWonn
    @DavidWonn Před 4 lety +3

    I really miss the mid-1990s WWW. You could do a net search on almost any topic and browse all results in a reasonable time. For instance, searching "Mario Kart" had less than 30 results. Additionally ads were nearly non-existent, and pages weren’t very bloated. They had to be simple because nearly everyone was on dial-up.
    Yahoo buying geocities in the late 90s was the beginning of the end of the Golden Age of the Internet. They invented the pop-ups and watermarks that would plague users for many years (though disabling JavaScript helped.) Sure, we’ve had CZcams since the mid-2000s, so everything is a tradeoff, but I do wish at times I could trade it all to go back a couple decades.

    • @Dumb_Killjoy
      @Dumb_Killjoy Před 7 měsíci

      I'm pretty sure it was Tripod that invented popup ads

  • @ninja_raven256
    @ninja_raven256 Před 4 lety +2

    For anyone wanting to replicate the days of old, use neocities. The whole point of that website is to bring back nostalgia for old web trends and to be able to make your own stuff.

  • @danielsjohnson
    @danielsjohnson Před 4 lety +1

    If anyone is wondering, the anime at 3:21-3:23 was "Fushigi Yuugi: The Mysterious Play".

  • @BryanTan
    @BryanTan Před 4 lety +4

    The video game Hypnospace Outlaw does a great job at nailing the 90s Geocities vibes, but in an alternate universe where people can browse the Web while sleeping.

    • @Qznews
      @Qznews  Před 4 lety +3

      Ever dream you were searching the web or filling out spreadsheets on the computer?

    • @BryanTan
      @BryanTan Před 4 lety +1

      That'll probably be a sign that I was way overworked 😅
      Now that I think about it, the netizens of Hypnospace Outlaw weren't seen to do jobs in Hypnospace, apart from some advertising their services. Only the admin staff + enforcers (which you are part of) are actually on the clock. Makes sense that the last thing you'd want to do in your dreams is more mundane work/school stuff
      May be worth your while giving the game a try! It really bundles up a lot of the 90s Internet into a tight package - the music, the animated gifs, the young & old netizens bumbling through web design, etc. Intriguing main storyline peppered with the ongoing live stories of the citizens of Hypnospace.

  • @ybot1
    @ybot1 Před 4 lety +5

    these websites look like ones we created in secondary school as we were learning how to create html sites using code

  • @erikdallas8644
    @erikdallas8644 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you so very much for the wonderful video. You brought back so many memories. I don't know what we are supposed to do now. The internet is a very different place.

  • @Luischocolatier
    @Luischocolatier Před 4 lety +2

    I remember this website I used to access when I was a little kid, like 5 or 6 years old. It was called something like Serena1 and it had little flash games with gifs, all of them with holiday or vacation themes like Christmas, Halloween, Easter, Summer... You usually had cities to build and you did that by picking from the gifs on the lower half of the srceen and dragging them up to the upper half, arranging them how you wanted. I especially loved the Halloween city.
    I tried to look for it a couple years ago, but it had disappeared.

  • @90AlmostFamous
    @90AlmostFamous Před 4 lety +19

    Loved the chaos, now we have to confirm to their stupid standards, like youtubes stupid creator manager or something

  • @eris4734
    @eris4734 Před 4 lety +3

    I saw this video, and I was like, hey I know some basic html. I could make a website. Now I'm working on one. I'll probably give up on it in a few months, but it's just a fun project. I'm not trying to recreate any style or anything, just trying to make a place that's personal, and where I can put interesting stuff.
    I wasn't even alive during the 90's. I have no idea what that era was like. But I do enjoy having control and customization options over as much as possible. Maybe I should have done this a while ago.

  • @summysums
    @summysums Před 4 lety +2

    Really hope that people are working to properly save flash games. Those things are a gem that I always come back to ❤️

  • @bluesquare23
    @bluesquare23 Před 4 lety +2

    To be honest a lot of those early websites had no defined purpose because it was just people experimenting. And that’s fun for a while till you realize you gotta pay hosting costs. There are still lots of people out there who do this type of stuff, although their aesthetic has changed a little. But those pages are buried under the weight of a corporate internet.

  • @asky_2759
    @asky_2759 Před 4 lety +6

    Most of the anime pages I found had some sort of fanfiction... I guess people liked lemons just as much as we do

  • @Your3rdBETRAYAL
    @Your3rdBETRAYAL Před 4 lety +8

    I just want to be able to customize the ever living hell out of my profiles

  • @Btvstudio
    @Btvstudio Před 4 lety +2

    I love these 2! I remember learning HTML 2.0 to make my own websites in the 90's.

  • @FirestormDDash
    @FirestormDDash Před 4 lety +4

    Honestly i always enjoyed the animated gifs of that day.
    Also losing all of my StumbleUpon sites was a big hit too.

  • @blahblahblah6
    @blahblahblah6 Před 4 lety +5

    Great video. The early web was more friendly & fun. It had more personality. I miss it. You don't need to be professional when putting up a personal website. Have fun with it.

  • @iamlost2788
    @iamlost2788 Před 4 lety +18

    the biggest fall in history will be youtube itll happen someday eventually everything falls

    • @moochincrawdad
      @moochincrawdad Před 4 lety +1

      Somehow I don't think a one terabyte hard drive will hold all the CZcams content 😐

    • @Raziffalyan
      @Raziffalyan Před 4 lety +1

      @@moochincrawdad I doubt a million terrabyte will even hold all the videos haha.

    • @katec3963
      @katec3963 Před 4 lety +2

      People are already making better platforms, hopefully someone makes one that puts users and content creators first.

    • @PohTrain
      @PohTrain Před 4 lety

      YT deserves to die

    • @nowthatsjustducky
      @nowthatsjustducky Před 4 lety

      @@PohTrain Not until we have a drop in replacement ready to go immediately first.

  • @AprilTee
    @AprilTee Před 4 lety +1

    I've been following this Tumblr and I had no idea that it was part of a huge project.

  • @HacksignKT
    @HacksignKT Před 4 lety +2

    This honestly hits me hard... back then there were a lot of great sites that had stories for me to read from Tenchi Muyo to Pokemon but now they are all gone. :c

  • @eve36368
    @eve36368 Před 4 lety +6

    This reminds me of trying anthropology & trying to save endangered languages.

    • @Qznews
      @Qznews  Před 4 lety +1

      You should watch our video on saving the Icelandic language; czcams.com/video/xutfcOh4oCg/video.html

    • @kylehill3643
      @kylehill3643 Před 4 lety +1

      And they are about as endangered as that 'rare' plant in San Francisco where hundreds of millions were spent on researching so they could fix the Ventura Freeway after it collapsed in 89 only to find out you could get it at any department home improvement store across the bay!

  • @lisaishere0919
    @lisaishere0919 Před 4 lety +2

    Dame reminds me so much of those computer class in the early 2000s. Wondering what kids (the net native) are doing today in school computer class...

  • @hhthoj
    @hhthoj Před 4 lety +2

    I would love to see a distributed version of this project, IPFS for example. It will both promote the use of distributed file storage and gain community more contribution to it, as well as archiving the early web.

  • @davdjimenez1150
    @davdjimenez1150 Před 4 lety +21

    Loved this vid, shame more didn’t appreciate it

    • @Qznews
      @Qznews  Před 4 lety +6

      We appreciate you appreciating our cool internet vid! Thanks for watching!

  • @3mar00ss6
    @3mar00ss6 Před 4 lety +6

    the old internet looks like a sonic the hedgehog 2 zone lol

  • @peckgardner
    @peckgardner Před 2 lety +1

    Imagine all those amazing 90s sites that don't exist anymore. Man that's sad

  • @wannabehistorian371
    @wannabehistorian371 Před 4 lety +1

    I was a 2000s kid, so I saw some old-school websites. ...But why does this feel so nostalgic?
    This video has made me miss something I’ve barely experienced.

    • @RealIllumin
      @RealIllumin Před 4 lety

      Because nostalgia goes around in ~20 year cycles. e.g. You can't be (technically) nostalgic for things that are under 10 years old.

  • @Negentropy.
    @Negentropy. Před 4 lety +3

    Double uploads are the best uploads! What what