Dear Gd she couldn't vote in many states (I don't know which ones, I just got clear instructions as a poll worker that California is a state that allows people under conservatorship to vote), but she could vote in Congress
Special timestamp just for me: 1:20:35 Timestamps: 0:00:00 SWAP: Special Weapons And Podcasting 0:04:01 Intro 0:05:51 The GD News: New York, DO NOT GO INTO THE GLOVE WATER 0:12:24 The GD News: Senator No Longer Being Weekend At Bernie's'd 0:16:52 The GD News: There's more Armenian Genocide happening. Jesus Christ. 0:20:56 The GD News: Cops Still Murdering People 0:24:24 Background: The Sunset Limited 0:31:04 Background: The Mobile River 0:37:06 Background: Mississippi Barges 0:40:22 Background: Big Bayou Canot Bridge 0:43:55 Background: Railroad Signalling and Welded/Jointed Rail 0:50:15 The Incident: Barge POV 0:57:57 The Incident: Train POV 1:02:14 The Incident: Survivor POV 1:05:35 This Was Going Poorly 1:07:28 Rescue Efforts 1:12:09 Immediate Aftermath 1:13:20 Investigation and Long-Term Aftermath 1:19:49 Safety Third: Dingle-Dangles vs Drone Driver Unless I'm just way too sleepy today I think they forgot the pronoun check so: -The one who is talking right now is Justin Roczniak, his pronouns are he/him -Yay Liam: the one who is talking right now is Liam Anderson, his pronouns are he/him -The one who is talking right now is Alice Caldwell-Kelly, her pronouns are she/her -The one who is editing right now is Devon, their pronouns are they/them Please make sure to read this at the appropriate time so it lines up with who's talking. PS: There is kind of a named train in the UK, Transport For Wales's Premier between Holyhead and Cardiff with full restaurant-level dining in first class. More to the point though, and I don't know why I didn't think of these first, the Caledonian Sleeper and Night Riviera sleeper trains. You could make the case for Caledonian Sleeper being a brand but Night Riviera is definitely a named train.
The grocery store I work at has a Marty robot. Since we got it, it has escaped and nearly gone into traffic on two separate occasions. It truly does desire death and on that day every one of us who's had to put up with will celebrate by putting its remains on display like Mussolini.
My favorite Dianne Feinstein moment was when she was caught as one of (at least) 5 Senators doing insider trading when she sold off a bunch of stock after being briefed about how bad the Covid pandemic would be in early 2020. She was the only Democrat among 4 Republicans caught doing this (and of course nothing happened to any of them).
Except she wasn't. She had filed notice a lot earlier of her intent to sell, and unlike the republicans because the decision was made in advance it was not an optimal stock action. She also sold stocks in the industry that took off due to Covid's impacts, where the Rs bought in before anyone else could learn
Liam: the Marty robot is a narc that looks for union activity. It is a _mitzvah_ to push it over, or at least block it in so it can't rat on people trying to unionize.
As if enough of the goobers working in central pa would ever support a union. My mom works at giant and was complaining about her working conditions and I half jokingly remarked "damn, sounds like you all need a union" and she glared at me and said "yeah, i don't think so."
In all seriousness, 'gators and turtles can take a lot more radiation than we can. So, near the Savannah River site, where they used to make plutonium triggers, there's a nature preserve with gators and turtles you REALLY shouldn't get near.☢️
Dear WTYP, Here's a place where Alice can experience jointed track, it would only be a few hours travel time for her. The branch line from Lancaster to Morecambe in Lancashire. I believe it gets a parliamentary service to link with Isle of Man Ferries at Heysham Port. You're welcome 🖤
I remember one time being on a 3-coach class 144 pacer leaving Bare Lane (on its way home to Leeds, normally it'd have been 142s around here) and the rhythm of the wheels on the jointed track sounded almost exactly like the beat to Fat Les's Vindaloo. The heysham service has been a bus replacement lately, sadly. Is the West Highland Line jointed? That'd be really easy from Glasgow, and an enjoyable trip in general. Great place for some Trainspotting.
Oh? I'm going to have to listen out next time I'm on the other part of the line (Lancaster-Skipton) and see if I can hear the noise on that part too (over the sound of the Sprinter) :)
LuLu Lemon was cancelled because when confronted by customers about the pants ripping the CEO said something along the lines of the customers were too fat and it wasn't his fault.
I always am reminded of that trainman who was burnt alive in the crew car. Him reciting that Psalms verse while people tried to get him out always enters my mind and weakens me. Also, disappointed this isnt 3 hours. They are getting more professional.
@maybemablemaples2144 ahhhh yeah soon. Mr. Jones we've got you'r estimates right here I'm gonna need a machinist, an electrician, maybe a millwright, some labor and oh yeah an exorcist...
@@devon1854 I also very much appreciate the pop-up images during the intro and news for context so I don't have to Google strings of keywords like a mad man
Well, I mean... several things, actually xD 1- During my training to become an air purser (that's the old timey term for the chief air steward), we went through a proper SHITLOAD of commercial airline clusterfucks and the main focus of that one for us was the fact that the dutch captain was a cunt who literally ignored both common sense and the two flight crew members in the cockpit. The cabin voice recorder showed he went something like "yeah, right" when the engineer said out loud "ther's another plane on the strip!" (that was right before or after the infamouos "we're going" line, can't recall). Also, comms discipline, ffs; you NEVER, EVER say "take off" as an ATC unless it's part of the phrase "(call sign), you're clear for take off", EVER. 2.- I haven't listened to more than like 35-40 episodes, yet I seem to recall four disasters mainly caused by fog (I want to say... 2 naval ones and 2 aviation ones...? something like that). So it wouldn't surprise me at all if these guys saw fog causing disasters as just a background baseline of "yeah, heavy machinery + fog = death" that doesn't even trip any alarms at this point. 3.- I'm an absolute atheist/skeptic/realist, yet I have the strong suspicion that fog might be sentient and is actually trying to rack up a record-breaking body count. What the fuck could it be competeing against? Yeah, that's the kind of question I don't ask myself because I want to be able to sleep at night. 4- I'd still gladly listen to a mega-compilation episode that starts with Justin saying "for those of you, folks, who think the fog in the movie 'The Fog' was deadly, we've got some goddamn news coming your way...". PS: You might want to look up this one mess of a close call in the early nineties. I don't know how they call that incident in English, but in Spain we call it the "capitán pegatina" or "sticker captain" incident. It was British Airways 5390 and the whole mess was caused by a maintainer skipping protocol and eyeballing the size of screw he was replacing so the windshield popped out and the decompression sucked the captain out of the cockpit. No fog involved, though, but the copilot had to land as blind as one can be without it.
So theres a few things I wanted to add on this: - 819, a P40 Gensis Engine, actually had measures in place to minimize fuel spills. The issue is that the remaining 2 engines, both F40PHs, didnt. - The Superliners' age is dependent on build, Superliner Is were built by Pullman until 1981. Superliner 2s were built in the early-mid 90s. (The lounge car in this accident is aparently Ex-ATSF) - The delay mentioned is thought to be a crucial moment in the whole accident as without that delay, the train wouldve sped past the bridge long before the accident. For those who have too much time and want to read NTSB reports, the entire accident report is available as a PDF via a quick google search
Which really is a bit of racism so weird and petty that it's hard to know what to say about it aside from, 'He seems gross' Also, he failed, out of all the American brands that are genuinely inconvenient to say with 48 phonemes, it's really not one of them...?
The Green Whistle is a Penthrox inhaler, non-opioid anaesthetic. Used for pain relief when they're moving you into the ambulance cause you just inhale when needed.
Oh, I've always heard it called the pain pipe, and thought it was a nitrous oxide inhaler. Turns out it uses methoxyflurane. It's used by surf life savers on surfers who get dumped on reefs and in cases of partial drowning, because that is apparently pretty painful. I can believe it, a little completely fresh water which goes the wrong way burns, so aspirating a lot more salty water must be considerably worse.
@7:42 To be fair Alice, I think they're trying to clear a clogged storm drain, which is admittedly only marginally more effective than attempting to mop it up without a bucket.
@@oscardiggs246 If Post10 was unleashed on NYC, all of the flooding would be gone in less than 3 hours, regardless of whether or not the drains can actually handle more water at the time.
Two things I can comment on as someone who works on railroad signalling and bridges. Firstly, you can absolutely put two or more trains in the block together under the North American rule books I am familiar with. Roz mentioned one signal aspect that allows it, Stop and Proceed. The idea is that trains are travelling at restricted speed and will be able to stop short of any obstruction they find. Secondly boats call bridges on the radio all the time! I used to be a bridge operator and my job was to sit around listening to the radio waiting for a boat to call me then I would open it up. Great job if boring as hell sometimes.
33:29 The Danube was in fact straightened and regulated quite heavily, primarily in the 19th century, to prevent flooding and make shipping possible. It used to be much more curvy before.
Yeah the one thing that sucks about taking the train very far here in the US is that you'd better be ready to spend several days at your destination because there's no way to get a train back in the same day so you're stuck there for 3-4 days. Hell, even some places on commuter trains get you stuck somewhere for at least one day, especially in Southern California, and there isn't a bus either. This is why we have shit traffic almost literally around the clock since you can only get there and back in one day if you drive for the most part.
Tactical Loyalist with the quote "Slavery is as equally repugnant to Civil Law as the Laws of Nature" -King George over a "hardcore" interpretation of the union jack held by an angry skull.
Surprised no-one mentioned that the bridge had no boat defences, for what sounds like a pretty light tap from a very heavy barge. Lots of bigger bridges have concrete reinforcements placed near bridge pylons to protect them from boats that either lose propulsion or can't see in the fog. That would likely have completely averted this disaster.
Alligators are just big ol reptile puppies. Love them. If you’re ever on a trip to florida, be sure to stop by the highway exit Alligator show that has the baby gators in kiddie pools.
The fun thing about the train being suspended east of New Orleans after Katrina is that the tracks were repaired in a few months. As far as I've ever been able to tell, CSX just told Amtrak to go away. But the route was dark territory last I checked (presumably it has some form of PTC now, but I don't know)
Re: Australians in mining calling things stupid names, my personal favourite is the Donkey Dick (hanging metal rod used to detect overfilled silos and chutes)
Very random point but talking about engineered rivers at 33:33 and so, look at some old time-y European maps if you are interested. It's insane looking at something like the Rhine pre-18th century and what it is now. In passing, you think it's kinda "natural", because you are so used to rivers being like that, but the moment you look at what it actually was like you realize that it's barely even the same river anymore ...
The Tombigbee is pronounced just like it's spelled: Tom Big Bee. Also weird fact: the Port of Mobile is the preferred trading port for Cuba and the US (whenever that is allowed).
I've been watching the backlog where the God Damn News is updates on COVID lockdown, so clicking on this and realizing this is recent news and the episode just came out was a shock
We had two of those security robots at a plant I used to work at and they were both constantly dying in the parking lot as far from the building as possible. But it was a TeCh CoMpAnY so they refused to stop using them.
should note, you also get the cool sound on the Southwest chief when the train is going 90. Its also a very rough 90 mph, and it sounds like the train is chugging like a steam engine. Though I think thats because the cars jump a lot and bang on their boogies and the body of the cars rattling as a result.
Gosh, its interesting to hear this from an outsider angle. My dad works as a tugboat captain, and used to frequent that route. As well, the pilot apparently had used to work at my Grandmother's seafood shop.
1) The NYC Subway survived the flood. I took the R train to and from my office in SoHo that day. 2) The reason why America has so many named trains is because we have so few trains 3) I took the Sunset Limited the full route. It was amazing. Highly recommend it if you can get a sleeper car or a roomette. 4) The Adirondack has the worst track in the US Rail Network and some of the best views. Also it's Train 69. Clearly it's the best train. 5) "One more lane" only increases traffic. Adding one more train to a train disaster can save lives.| 6) Drowing in an Amtrak car *might* be how I want to die depending on the circumstances. If it's a "The Captain Must Go Down With his Ship" situation.
The issue with the Sunset Limited post-Katrina is that the track was damaged and CSX refused to rebuild it. Amtrak is very much interested in restoring service along the full route but they are beholden to the folks who own the track bringing it back up to passenger standard and then allowing them to return to it......... ORRRRRR to us voting in politicians who will nationalize the Class Is The deal for NOLA-Mobile is settled and expected to commence service very quickly, potentially by EOY 2023. What happens east of town is yet to be seen. I've had my ear to the ground on this for a while because completion of the Mobile service will allow me to take the train to my parents rather than having to drive 8 hours or put up with flying
I spent the last week recovering from surgery desperately hoping y'all would release an episode to ease my pain and of course it's released during my first shift back at work 😢
Uh oh I see the thumbnail as I'm taking Amtrak (Empire Builder) to Seattle. Hopefully they don't make me scared of this form of transportation too. *Clutches to the phrase 'train good' for comfort.*
As someone who used to do tech support for the Aloha Point of Sale system, I can confirm you might not be able to kill someone with it, but you can ABSOLUTELY destroy the mental health of the tech support team.
one of the guys I work with worked on salvaging the equipment from this wreck and he's still pretty badly traumatized. 🙃 edit: realizing he's the one who painted a wall in our document library as the fireman's rear corner of coach 39908. fuck.
Since I learned about the podcast within the last year, I’ve watched the series from episode 1 onwards. I was on the _Kursk_ episode when this was uploaded, and I felt like watching this new episode while it was freshly released. Noticed some changes, nothing major. The new editor’s all right. Should probably catch up the almost ninety episodes in between to see how we got here. Edit: …and I did. Took me only six months and I’m still behind. Think at this point they made the special bulletin on the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse. Probably won’t close the gap until May lol
The Army Corps of Engineers have all but tamed the Mississippi. Above St. Louis its basically a series of connected lakes. By daming and flooding it they've hidden all the tricky stuff under the surface. Lots of old wing dams, rapid bypass canals, piers and old riverfront under the surface if you wander too far out of the main channel...which barges almost never do.
"We podcast with speed, surprise, and violence of action, and we take all of those very seriously." - Alice, attempting to keep her name firmly on the Watch List.
1:28:01 A green whistle looks like a thick marker pen with a whistle tip. Its an inhaler, and the person in pain sucks on it. Extremely common in Australia and NZ which is its primary market. The drug in the green whistle was banned by the FDA twenty years ago. Typically carried in ambulances, by surf lifesavers, sports clubs, etc.
The founder of Lululemon, Chip Wilson, is good friends with our current Mayor, the only candidate ever to be endorsed by the Vancouver police "union." Wilson also funds a fairly extreme right-wing group called the "Pacific Prosperity Network" that spends his money making documentaries and holding events that demonize our unsupported homeless population and the ongoing overdose epidemic.
favorite feinstein moment; making homelessness way worse in the bay area as a result of policies to benefit her real estate husband. To a degree that it's still fucked today.
what's insane about this one is the sheer degree to which people had no idea where they were or what was going on. does kinda go to show that you really can still get lost in america.
The Mississippi and the Strid. Two most terrifying rivers in the world for me. I live in California and I still think they will get me from here somehow. It’s totally rational though.
Ah, I'm taking the Adirondack to Montreal at the end of the month. I was waiting for it to resume service for 3 years or so. Unfortunately there are now often no connecting trains from Philly to NYC within reasonable time frames, so I'm taking a megabus to NYC at like 4:30am on a sunday to catch the Adirondack at around 8am, and on the way back I have to kill 2 hours near penn station so I can catch a (thankfully $10) midnightish train home. On top of that, if you try to book through Amtrak straight from Philly to Montreal, it either just doesn't work right or charges you more money than booking separately. It used to cost very little extra to depart from Philly and the trains connected in NYC within about 45 mins. It sucks and it's slow, but it's better than driving for 8 hours. $165 total for 3 train tickets and a bus ticket was still relatively reasonable.
Ohhh, I remember watching a documentation about this on TV as a kid. Might've been even before 9/11 so I think this was the first time I became aware of disasters as a concept.
Fun Mobile Fact! It hosted the first Mardi Gras celebration west of the Atlantic, and is the nesting place of the Gold Breasted North American Leprechaun.
Oh wow they've got me so hyped up for "The Episode That Gets Them All Killed". I cannot wait to watch "The Episode That Gets Them All Killed" whenever it comes out and hopefully before it successfully Gets Them All Killed.
1:09:35 "We haven't done any fog-based aviation disaster yet" Uuuuh, you guys did the Tenerife airport disaster as the 22nd episode. That's the poster child of fog-based aviation disasters.
I remember my Mom was so damn scared because we were going to be taking the Amtrak from Denver to New York and THIS happened like a month before the trip.
Well to be fair because of the deplorable state of American infrastructure Amtrak has a quite high incident count for the amount of trains they drive everyday
Me seeing WTYP in my notifications: excellent, a lovely hour and a half of engineering horrors from the past to distract me from political horrors in the present
My favorite Diane Feinstein moment was when she was stripped of power of attorney and still allowed to (not) vote in congress
I saw a comment elsewhere that was like "Which unelected intern cast her last vote?" and I hate that that's probably accurate.
My favorite moment just happened extremely recently, it just so happens…
Dear Gd she couldn't vote in many states (I don't know which ones, I just got clear instructions as a poll worker that California is a state that allows people under conservatorship to vote), but she could vote in Congress
Thank the lord she finally retired 😂
If only chump would retire
Id love an “oops all safety 3rd” episode where you just read the emails for coupe hours.
Yesssss
Thirded!
Fourthed...?
Maybe this could replace the yearly 9/11 episode now they've run through pretty much everything that fell down that day.
This! This! This! Please!
Canot wreck? Buddy I’m looking at the wreck right now
Yeah it seems like it can for sure wreck.
Special timestamp just for me: 1:20:35
Timestamps:
0:00:00 SWAP: Special Weapons And Podcasting
0:04:01 Intro
0:05:51 The GD News: New York, DO NOT GO INTO THE GLOVE WATER
0:12:24 The GD News: Senator No Longer Being Weekend At Bernie's'd
0:16:52 The GD News: There's more Armenian Genocide happening. Jesus Christ.
0:20:56 The GD News: Cops Still Murdering People
0:24:24 Background: The Sunset Limited
0:31:04 Background: The Mobile River
0:37:06 Background: Mississippi Barges
0:40:22 Background: Big Bayou Canot Bridge
0:43:55 Background: Railroad Signalling and Welded/Jointed Rail
0:50:15 The Incident: Barge POV
0:57:57 The Incident: Train POV
1:02:14 The Incident: Survivor POV
1:05:35 This Was Going Poorly
1:07:28 Rescue Efforts
1:12:09 Immediate Aftermath
1:13:20 Investigation and Long-Term Aftermath
1:19:49 Safety Third: Dingle-Dangles vs Drone Driver
Unless I'm just way too sleepy today I think they forgot the pronoun check so:
-The one who is talking right now is Justin Roczniak, his pronouns are he/him
-Yay Liam: the one who is talking right now is Liam Anderson, his pronouns are he/him
-The one who is talking right now is Alice Caldwell-Kelly, her pronouns are she/her
-The one who is editing right now is Devon, their pronouns are they/them
Please make sure to read this at the appropriate time so it lines up with who's talking.
PS: There is kind of a named train in the UK, Transport For Wales's Premier between Holyhead and Cardiff with full restaurant-level dining in first class. More to the point though, and I don't know why I didn't think of these first, the Caledonian Sleeper and Night Riviera sleeper trains. You could make the case for Caledonian Sleeper being a brand but Night Riviera is definitely a named train.
Appreciate the stamps/ your contribution :D 👍
It's the saint!
_hail the conquering hero!_
Night Riviera is a beautiful name for a baby train or girl
thx comrade!
Unsolicited gag idea: slowly zoom in on the 'activate windows' text over the course of about 5 mins.
The grocery store I work at has a Marty robot. Since we got it, it has escaped and nearly gone into traffic on two separate occasions. It truly does desire death and on that day every one of us who's had to put up with will celebrate by putting its remains on display like Mussolini.
My favorite Dianne Feinstein moment was when she was caught as one of (at least) 5 Senators doing insider trading when she sold off a bunch of stock after being briefed about how bad the Covid pandemic would be in early 2020. She was the only Democrat among 4 Republicans caught doing this (and of course nothing happened to any of them).
Except she wasn't. She had filed notice a lot earlier of her intent to sell, and unlike the republicans because the decision was made in advance it was not an optimal stock action. She also sold stocks in the industry that took off due to Covid's impacts, where the Rs bought in before anyone else could learn
@@shadowmaster1313Okay. Did "she" do this or did a blind trust?
Liam: the Marty robot is a narc that looks for union activity. It is a _mitzvah_ to push it over, or at least block it in so it can't rat on people trying to unionize.
As if enough of the goobers working in central pa would ever support a union. My mom works at giant and was complaining about her working conditions and I half jokingly remarked "damn, sounds like you all need a union" and she glared at me and said "yeah, i don't think so."
Feinstein didn't just leave the flag flyin in San Francisco, she made sure prosecutors went after Richard Bradley for taking the flag down.
Ultimate Liberal Demon for real
Finally, my constant ADHD feed refreshing pays off with a feel good story about a train wreck. Edit: OH GOOD THE MUD AND THE WATER
Mysterious acts of God's love, has blessed upon us.
S always brother
Amen
_Manifested_ ✨
I’m not the only one
I would simply drive a train through the Big Bayou Can, but perhaps I'm built different.
I would dance through the Big Bayou Can-Can with 20 women
I dunno, maybe it's just me but it sure seems like the Big Bayou Can; it's rather the Train that Canot in this particular instance
I would make it out of the most rigid material imaginable
In all seriousness, 'gators and turtles can take a lot more radiation than we can.
So, near the Savannah River site, where they used to make plutonium triggers, there's a nature preserve with gators and turtles you REALLY shouldn't get near.☢️
What are they gonna do, give you cancer in a limb they've bitten off?
Fallout-ass Gators
@@seaboardercoast indeed
I guess rabbits are similarly radiation resistant because Hanford had a problem with radioactive rabbit poop for awhile
In defense of the radioactive waste. We could really use the TMNT right now.
Dear WTYP,
Here's a place where Alice can experience jointed track, it would only be a few hours travel time for her. The branch line from Lancaster to Morecambe in Lancashire. I believe it gets a parliamentary service to link with Isle of Man Ferries at Heysham Port. You're welcome 🖤
I remember one time being on a 3-coach class 144 pacer leaving Bare Lane (on its way home to Leeds, normally it'd have been 142s around here) and the rhythm of the wheels on the jointed track sounded almost exactly like the beat to Fat Les's Vindaloo.
The heysham service has been a bus replacement lately, sadly.
Is the West Highland Line jointed? That'd be really easy from Glasgow, and an enjoyable trip in general. Great place for some Trainspotting.
Oh? I'm going to have to listen out next time I'm on the other part of the line (Lancaster-Skipton) and see if I can hear the noise on that part too (over the sound of the Sprinter) :)
@alice ride the Cumbrian Coast, you sometimes feel like you're on a galloping horse rather than a train
Thanks for this, i miss the clicky-clack
LuLu Lemon was cancelled because when confronted by customers about the pants ripping the CEO said something along the lines of the customers were too fat and it wasn't his fault.
I always am reminded of that trainman who was burnt alive in the crew car. Him reciting that Psalms verse while people tried to get him out always enters my mind and weakens me.
Also, disappointed this isnt 3 hours. They are getting more professional.
Ikr? I miss the older jankier wtyp before they got all corporate
Priest: The power of Christ
compels you! I cast you out!
Unclean spirit!
Me: Wait, stop! Some of these
are load-bearing demons.
i'm going to use that one... Load-bearing demons.... thats gold
"Father that's my emotional support demon. You can't have that one."
@maybemablemaples2144 ahhhh yeah soon. Mr. Jones we've got you'r estimates right here I'm gonna need a machinist, an electrician, maybe a millwright, some labor and oh yeah an exorcist...
I've legit seen this as an oldschool D&D trap before.
Hey Devon? From one video editor to another? That pre-made "subscribe and ring the bell" animation was perfectly timed and fucking hilarious.
Thank you so much. I was giggling as I searched for the cheesiest possible one
@@devon1854also, thanks for bringing back the audio cue when you are providing an edit. You always provide great comedy that enhances the concept
I'm pretty certain Robot Cantina uses that one, and I swear someone else I watch does too. Small world...
@@devon1854 I also very much appreciate the pop-up images during the intro and news for context so I don't have to Google strings of keywords like a mad man
I really appreciated the slow zoom in on the gator myself. What an adorable living beartrap torpedo.
"we haven't done a fog-based aviation disaster yet"
didn't you do an episode on the tenerife collision? that's, like, THE fog based aviation disaster
Also the Andrea Doria sinking.
Well, I mean... several things, actually xD
1- During my training to become an air purser (that's the old timey term for the chief air steward), we went through a proper SHITLOAD of commercial airline clusterfucks and the main focus of that one for us was the fact that the dutch captain was a cunt who literally ignored both common sense and the two flight crew members in the cockpit. The cabin voice recorder showed he went something like "yeah, right" when the engineer said out loud "ther's another plane on the strip!" (that was right before or after the infamouos "we're going" line, can't recall). Also, comms discipline, ffs; you NEVER, EVER say "take off" as an ATC unless it's part of the phrase "(call sign), you're clear for take off", EVER.
2.- I haven't listened to more than like 35-40 episodes, yet I seem to recall four disasters mainly caused by fog (I want to say... 2 naval ones and 2 aviation ones...? something like that). So it wouldn't surprise me at all if these guys saw fog causing disasters as just a background baseline of "yeah, heavy machinery + fog = death" that doesn't even trip any alarms at this point.
3.- I'm an absolute atheist/skeptic/realist, yet I have the strong suspicion that fog might be sentient and is actually trying to rack up a record-breaking body count. What the fuck could it be competeing against? Yeah, that's the kind of question I don't ask myself because I want to be able to sleep at night.
4- I'd still gladly listen to a mega-compilation episode that starts with Justin saying "for those of you, folks, who think the fog in the movie 'The Fog' was deadly, we've got some goddamn news coming your way...".
PS: You might want to look up this one mess of a close call in the early nineties. I don't know how they call that incident in English, but in Spain we call it the "capitán pegatina" or "sticker captain" incident. It was British Airways 5390 and the whole mess was caused by a maintainer skipping protocol and eyeballing the size of screw he was replacing so the windshield popped out and the decompression sucked the captain out of the cockpit. No fog involved, though, but the copilot had to land as blind as one can be without it.
Thought the exact same thing when Alice said that
Andrea Doria, Tenerife Airport Disaster and also the Smolensk Air Disaster... So sad to hear that WTYPP have come down with "we forgor" Syndrome
Is this my favorite Dianne Feinstein moment?
So theres a few things I wanted to add on this:
- 819, a P40 Gensis Engine, actually had measures in place to minimize fuel spills. The issue is that the remaining 2 engines, both F40PHs, didnt.
- The Superliners' age is dependent on build, Superliner Is were built by Pullman until 1981. Superliner 2s were built in the early-mid 90s. (The lounge car in this accident is aparently Ex-ATSF)
- The delay mentioned is thought to be a crucial moment in the whole accident as without that delay, the train wouldve sped past the bridge long before the accident.
For those who have too much time and want to read NTSB reports, the entire accident report is available as a PDF via a quick google search
The thing about Lululemon is that the owner of the company named it that because he thought it would be "funny" when Japanese people try to say it
Which really is a bit of racism so weird and petty that it's hard to know what to say about it aside from, 'He seems gross'
Also, he failed, out of all the American brands that are genuinely inconvenient to say with 48 phonemes, it's really not one of them...?
Why am I not surprised?
They'll just call it RuRuReMoN, and pay no heed to R/L difference.
The Green Whistle is a Penthrox inhaler, non-opioid anaesthetic. Used for pain relief when they're moving you into the ambulance cause you just inhale when needed.
Oh, I've always heard it called the pain pipe, and thought it was a nitrous oxide inhaler. Turns out it uses methoxyflurane. It's used by surf life savers on surfers who get dumped on reefs and in cases of partial drowning, because that is apparently pretty painful. I can believe it, a little completely fresh water which goes the wrong way burns, so aspirating a lot more salty water must be considerably worse.
Speaking of Lululemon, the founder regularly advocates and funds efforts to have more cops in the city of Vancouver BC Canada
@7:42 To be fair Alice, I think they're trying to clear a clogged storm drain, which is admittedly only marginally more effective than attempting to mop it up without a bucket.
Was Post10 in New York clearing storm drains?
@@oscardiggs246no, otherwise the flooding wouldn't have been as bad
@@oscardiggs246 If Post10 was unleashed on NYC, all of the flooding would be gone in less than 3 hours, regardless of whether or not the drains can actually handle more water at the time.
I always love when Liam shows how much he appreciates his family and friends. It warms my jaded heart.
Two things I can comment on as someone who works on railroad signalling and bridges.
Firstly, you can absolutely put two or more trains in the block together under the North American rule books I am familiar with. Roz mentioned one signal aspect that allows it, Stop and Proceed. The idea is that trains are travelling at restricted speed and will be able to stop short of any obstruction they find.
Secondly boats call bridges on the radio all the time! I used to be a bridge operator and my job was to sit around listening to the radio waiting for a boat to call me then I would open it up. Great job if boring as hell sometimes.
So proud that Alice is finally so close to getting that CZcams award she has been wanting for years.
33:29 The Danube was in fact straightened and regulated quite heavily, primarily in the 19th century, to prevent flooding and make shipping possible. It used to be much more curvy before.
Yeah the one thing that sucks about taking the train very far here in the US is that you'd better be ready to spend several days at your destination because there's no way to get a train back in the same day so you're stuck there for 3-4 days. Hell, even some places on commuter trains get you stuck somewhere for at least one day, especially in Southern California, and there isn't a bus either. This is why we have shit traffic almost literally around the clock since you can only get there and back in one day if you drive for the most part.
1:07:33 "The Malvilla was the first on the scene." Yeah that's the issue.
Liam missed an opportunity for "turn in your barge and gun" there.
Slowly becoming a train podcast and I, for one, am here for it
Always has been
Cars bad trains good
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the funniest thing about diane feinstein dying is if it hadn't been announced nobody ever woulda noticed
The "FBI OPEN UP" drop when there was somebody at Liam's door actually scared the shit out of me.
If you guys survive the episode that's going to get you all killed, I'm expecting that 17 hour Katrina episode.
I’m at the train wreck, I’m at the boat wreck, I’m at the combination train-boat wreck
Well the boat was fine. The bridge though
Tactical Loyalist with the quote "Slavery is as equally repugnant to Civil Law as the Laws of Nature" -King George over a "hardcore" interpretation of the union jack held by an angry skull.
Surprised no-one mentioned that the bridge had no boat defences, for what sounds like a pretty light tap from a very heavy barge. Lots of bigger bridges have concrete reinforcements placed near bridge pylons to protect them from boats that either lose propulsion or can't see in the fog. That would likely have completely averted this disaster.
Alligators are just big ol reptile puppies. Love them. If you’re ever on a trip to florida, be sure to stop by the highway exit Alligator show that has the baby gators in kiddie pools.
Revolutionary reenactments are the best, because you have to be completely smashed on corn whiskey, to be historically accurate.
The fun thing about the train being suspended east of New Orleans after Katrina is that the tracks were repaired in a few months. As far as I've ever been able to tell, CSX just told Amtrak to go away. But the route was dark territory last I checked (presumably it has some form of PTC now, but I don't know)
Feinstein moment: when she released the info on night stalker too. Leading to more deaths. What an piece of work.
Interesting how train crashes these days tend to be the fault of other vehicles like trucks and boats
Re: Australians in mining calling things stupid names, my personal favourite is the Donkey Dick (hanging metal rod used to detect overfilled silos and chutes)
I was in NY during the Sandy flooding, luckily I lived on Bay Ridge, which it turns out, is not just a clever name.
As a recovering Floridian I can confirm that gators do, in fact, swiggity swooty.
Very random point but talking about engineered rivers at 33:33 and so, look at some old time-y European maps if you are interested. It's insane looking at something like the Rhine pre-18th century and what it is now. In passing, you think it's kinda "natural", because you are so used to rivers being like that, but the moment you look at what it actually was like you realize that it's barely even the same river anymore ...
The safety third reminds me of my neighbour who once tried unblocking his mower while it was still running.
Devon is the GOAT for their feinstien picture show.
Also there's forty six feet of leeches in that mud.....
The Tombigbee is pronounced just like it's spelled: Tom Big Bee. Also weird fact: the Port of Mobile is the preferred trading port for Cuba and the US (whenever that is allowed).
A Spanish Inquisition SWAT Team is just the Inquisition in 40K
"I saw one ten years ago that threw itself into the sea"
Alice, that was Peace Walker.
I've been watching the backlog where the God Damn News is updates on COVID lockdown, so clicking on this and realizing this is recent news and the episode just came out was a shock
"we have a lot of news"
(me, forgetting the 6 day delay): "yeah, buddy! Yes, we do!!"
The founder of Lululemon picked the name to be difficult for Asian people to pronounce
We had two of those security robots at a plant I used to work at and they were both constantly dying in the parking lot as far from the building as possible. But it was a TeCh CoMpAnY so they refused to stop using them.
should note, you also get the cool sound on the Southwest chief when the train is going 90. Its also a very rough 90 mph, and it sounds like the train is chugging like a steam engine. Though I think thats because the cars jump a lot and bang on their boogies and the body of the cars rattling as a result.
The problem was Eric Adams couldn’t arrest the flood
Gosh, its interesting to hear this from an outsider angle. My dad works as a tugboat captain, and used to frequent that route. As well, the pilot apparently had used to work at my Grandmother's seafood shop.
1) The NYC Subway survived the flood. I took the R train to and from my office in SoHo that day.
2) The reason why America has so many named trains is because we have so few trains
3) I took the Sunset Limited the full route. It was amazing. Highly recommend it if you can get a sleeper car or a roomette.
4) The Adirondack has the worst track in the US Rail Network and some of the best views. Also it's Train 69. Clearly it's the best train.
5) "One more lane" only increases traffic. Adding one more train to a train disaster can save lives.|
6) Drowing in an Amtrak car *might* be how I want to die depending on the circumstances. If it's a "The Captain Must Go Down With his Ship" situation.
Devon channeling a late night host to talk about Wales' cool flag. Love it.
The issue with the Sunset Limited post-Katrina is that the track was damaged and CSX refused to rebuild it. Amtrak is very much interested in restoring service along the full route but they are beholden to the folks who own the track bringing it back up to passenger standard and then allowing them to return to it......... ORRRRRR to us voting in politicians who will nationalize the Class Is
The deal for NOLA-Mobile is settled and expected to commence service very quickly, potentially by EOY 2023. What happens east of town is yet to be seen. I've had my ear to the ground on this for a while because completion of the Mobile service will allow me to take the train to my parents rather than having to drive 8 hours or put up with flying
Yay Liam! Yay Alice! Yay Justin! Yay Devon! Yay to everyone who reads this! New episode baby!🎉
Yay! 🥳
"Stuff was on fire, people were dead. It was a big mess"-Justin R. 2023
I spent the last week recovering from surgery desperately hoping y'all would release an episode to ease my pain and of course it's released during my first shift back at work 😢
Did the surgery go well. Good luck either way
Uh oh I see the thumbnail as I'm taking Amtrak (Empire Builder) to Seattle. Hopefully they don't make me scared of this form of transportation too. *Clutches to the phrase 'train good' for comfort.*
did you survive? 🤞
As someone who used to do tech support for the Aloha Point of Sale system, I can confirm you might not be able to kill someone with it, but you can ABSOLUTELY destroy the mental health of the tech support team.
Can y'all do an episode about the time Norfolk Southern chlorine gassed the small town of graniteville, SC
one of the guys I work with worked on salvaging the equipment from this wreck and he's still pretty badly traumatized. 🙃 edit: realizing he's the one who painted a wall in our document library as the fireman's rear corner of coach 39908. fuck.
It looks to me like Big Bayou CAN wreck, but I haven't listened to the podcast yet, so maybe this will be answered later.
Can’t believe Alice didn’t make a mountain goats reference about Mobile, Alabama
Since I learned about the podcast within the last year, I’ve watched the series from episode 1 onwards. I was on the _Kursk_ episode when this was uploaded, and I felt like watching this new episode while it was freshly released.
Noticed some changes, nothing major. The new editor’s all right.
Should probably catch up the almost ninety episodes in between to see how we got here.
Edit: …and I did. Took me only six months and I’m still behind. Think at this point they made the special bulletin on the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse. Probably won’t close the gap until May lol
Uh oh, they found the bad train :(
Only bad trains desire to return to the earth
The Army Corps of Engineers have all but tamed the Mississippi. Above St. Louis its basically a series of connected lakes. By daming and flooding it they've hidden all the tricky stuff under the surface. Lots of old wing dams, rapid bypass canals, piers and old riverfront under the surface if you wander too far out of the main channel...which barges almost never do.
I just now got on the train out of Chicago, I’m so excited to listen I’m not even gonna read the title!
"We podcast with speed, surprise, and violence of action, and we take all of those very seriously."
- Alice, attempting to keep her name firmly on the Watch List.
Such an easy one to prevent. I simply wouldn't have put the train in the water, frankly
1:28:01 A green whistle looks like a thick marker pen with a whistle tip. Its an inhaler, and the person in pain sucks on it. Extremely common in Australia and NZ which is its primary market. The drug in the green whistle was banned by the FDA twenty years ago. Typically carried in ambulances, by surf lifesavers, sports clubs, etc.
The founder of Lululemon, Chip Wilson, is good friends with our current Mayor, the only candidate ever to be endorsed by the Vancouver police "union." Wilson also funds a fairly extreme right-wing group called the "Pacific Prosperity Network" that spends his money making documentaries and holding events that demonize our unsupported homeless population and the ongoing overdose epidemic.
favorite feinstein moment; making homelessness way worse in the bay area as a result of policies to benefit her real estate husband. To a degree that it's still fucked today.
what's insane about this one is the sheer degree to which people had no idea where they were or what was going on. does kinda go to show that you really can still get lost in america.
Thank you Devin for saving me from having to look up what those flags look like.
It's just a piece of cloth!
(Payback for the leftards and their mask bullshit)
YES KAIJU FROG THEORY! Personally I like the idea he was carrying a bunch of baby frogs on his mouth that spewed forth after he got ganked
The giant frog descended on New York years ago, caused great devastation and build a tower with his name on it,
i was wondering why this disaster felt familiar to me, then i realized it was covered on Forensic Files YEARS ago. glad to hear your take on it!
The Mississippi and the Strid.
Two most terrifying rivers in the world for me. I live in California and I still think they will get me from here somehow. It’s totally rational though.
I need you to know that when Liam went to check the door, Alice hit the FBI drop right as I took a sip of my drink and I almost died.
Ah, I'm taking the Adirondack to Montreal at the end of the month. I was waiting for it to resume service for 3 years or so. Unfortunately there are now often no connecting trains from Philly to NYC within reasonable time frames, so I'm taking a megabus to NYC at like 4:30am on a sunday to catch the Adirondack at around 8am, and on the way back I have to kill 2 hours near penn station so I can catch a (thankfully $10) midnightish train home. On top of that, if you try to book through Amtrak straight from Philly to Montreal, it either just doesn't work right or charges you more money than booking separately. It used to cost very little extra to depart from Philly and the trains connected in NYC within about 45 mins. It sucks and it's slow, but it's better than driving for 8 hours. $165 total for 3 train tickets and a bus ticket was still relatively reasonable.
Me: Oh shit yeah wtyp episode
Me: Oh shit. I know this one.
I'm surprised Amtrak didn't try to blame the engineer for this somehow.
Holy crap… I don’t know why 1:03:24 “Well no, because it was on fire…” hit me so hard. I was crying laughing. 😂
Ohhh, I remember watching a documentation about this on TV as a kid. Might've been even before 9/11 so I think this was the first time I became aware of disasters as a concept.
This crash happened after 9/11. But I’m to lazy now to look up the date. And I haven’t finished the podcast yet.
Oops my bad. 1993. Carry on
Fun Mobile Fact! It hosted the first Mardi Gras celebration west of the Atlantic, and is the nesting place of the Gold Breasted North American Leprechaun.
Oh wow they've got me so hyped up for "The Episode That Gets Them All Killed". I cannot wait to watch "The Episode That Gets Them All Killed" whenever it comes out and hopefully before it successfully Gets Them All Killed.
This was Amtrak's 9/11...or, _EMtrak's 9/11_ as Rocz would pronounce it. It was almost as tragic as America's 9/11: the death of Dale Earnhardt.
1:09:35 "We haven't done any fog-based aviation disaster yet"
Uuuuh, you guys did the Tenerife airport disaster as the 22nd episode.
That's the poster child of fog-based aviation disasters.
Not even two weeks ago, 1000 Thunderbolt Siren Productions released their video on the Bayou rail disaster. Great minds think alike.
I remember my Mom was so damn scared because we were going to be taking the Amtrak from Denver to New York and THIS happened like a month before the trip.
Well to be fair because of the deplorable state of American infrastructure Amtrak has a quite high incident count for the amount of trains they drive everyday
Me seeing WTYP in my notifications: excellent, a lovely hour and a half of engineering horrors from the past to distract me from political horrors in the present
if devon likes the welsh flag cause it has a dragon on it, they should also check out the bhutanese flag
I never lose an opportunity to hit Marty with my grocery cart.
Marty is a narc. Keep up the good work.
I always cuss him out for being in my way, but I live in western PA now, so I rarely interact with that stupid machine these days.