What if Danganronpa Victims and Killers Swapped Places?
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- In this video I will explain the effects and consequences from swapping the victims with the killers in Danganronpa.
The effects and consequences explained will vary from during the ACTUAL situation, so when the murder occured, the afteraffects during the investigation, the impacts on the trials and lastly the impact on the whole game.
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Fight for survival: x.com/riyuta?s=21
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Bro this is the first video in 2 years where Leon doesn’t say AHO AHO AHO in it 💀
rip the AHOAHOAHO
*Sad noises*
A dead body can't speak
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@@SecretseekerYes yea thats a glitch
Honestly, the claim that Miu would win indisputably if she killed Kokichi is much more subjective than most people think. It would have been tougher to discover the truth, but not impossible.
Well that is true but there are multiple things that only miu knew in the trial so if she actually caculated things a bit more like the sign that she threw into the water which actually helped shuichi figure out that the wall existed and i forgot some other details like "how he figured out her avatar was set to object" but there are many things that she could have calculated a bit more and if she did i think she would have won instantly
@@Frosty-Iruma1969 Minus those last few words, I think your argument has a lot of good weight; I just don't agree with the win instantly part. Not to mention there would've still been a reasonable amount of factors working against Miu that I doubt she would have been able to talk herself out of. A big part of her plan was disguising Kokichi's cause of death with poison, but for that to work, she would need the others to see the bottle, and after examining his body, it would become clear that Kokichi didn't die of poison; after all, that debate happened early in the canon trial and got debunked easily. Then there was Tsumugi seeing Miu on her way to kill Kokichi, and while I wouldn't go as far as to say this would make Shuichi suspect her immediately, he would remember that detail and bring it up at the first opportunity. Because even with only Miu knowing about the wall, it wouldn’t change the fact that no one else at the chapel could access it, so that gives Himiko, Maki, and Keebo solid alibis. Finally, while clearing the roof was essential to Miu's plan, the fact that it was Kaito is something that would spell failure for Miu, because just like the actual trial, Shuichi would want to hear him out, and considering that he was a major carry for all the previous trials, everyone else would be inclined to listen to him. It also doesn't help Miu that for all her inventive intellect, she wasn't the most well liked by the other characters, so if it came to choosing who to believe between her and Shuichi, most, if not all, of the other survivors up to that point would choose the Ultimate Detective over the Ultimate Inventor.
Anyway, I apologize for the lengthy reply, as this wasn't meant to be a rant. Also, I hope this doesn't get misinterpreted, as I'm not trying to say that people are wrong to say Miu couldn't win, but explain why I don't think she would win instantly and showcase that her downfall by execution is another realistic outcome that should not be dismissed.
@@nathanielgrindstaff4909 now that I think about it thank you for reminding me about those key points if I speak off of the kokichi murder plan she could have ripped the label off if she really planned things out properly which is one thing she could have fixed for her plan second is and for miu being spotted by tsumugi I feel if she was just a little more cautious that could have been easily avoided and for the Kaito part that was just a stroke of bad luck I feel if it was like maki or someone who disliked kokichi it would have been better but then again it was just a stroke of bad luck and for the last part I wanna say something that isn’t related to if she wins but think about what she could do if she survived I mean she made the electro hammers and the electro bomb so I feel she could have been a really god asset in the end I feel as if her plan was very miscalculated and needed a bit more tweaking and thank you for bringing these points to my attention so I could elaborate more off them she wouldn’t win immediately it would just be hard (unless she fixed all the flaws In her original plan) but that would just leave whoever went to the roof that would be an issue anyway thanks for this
@@Frosty-Iruma1969 I feel like miu is so goofy she would slip up so bad that it would contradict her entire argument💀 also, she mentions that she’s not that good a dealing with intense situation so she would probably flip out if somebody gets close to finding out.
@@jjrocks9960 you know i see her doing that- Biggest miu enjoyer
"Ain't no way Hiyoko is killing Mikan"
And yet you found a way for Chihiro to kill Mondo. A scenario where Hiyoko kills Mikan would have been cool and would have fit in line with their dynamic.
Right, 4’10 to 6’2 is higher height difference than 4’2 to 5’4. C-M = 1 & 1/3 of a door. H-M = 1 & 1/6 of a height difference.
I think Hiyoko and ibuki could have perhaps teamed up. Like Hiyoko with intent to kill Mikan uses Ibuki and tells her that Mikan will kill everyone unless Ibuki and Hiyoko fights back. So Ibuki meets with Hiyoko and Hiyoko has a plan to Jill her with Mikan tools that are shark enough, and then frame it as a murder. So Ibuki lures Mikan to Hiyoko, probably by running off while Mikan is taking care of her. Then they meet up somewhere, preferably in the conference room or on call room I forgot what it was called. Ibuki takes the tools that are able to kill someone like that sharp tool Mikan had to kill Hiyoko, and both Ibuki and Hiyoko stab Mikan to death. Then, one of them writes a suicide note and Hiyoko makes sure to tel Ibuki to say nothing about the murder otherwise everyone would die including her. Ibuki obliges and then BOOM! A murder from both victims!!
Maybe instead of Ibuki taking the tools, Hiyoko goes to the kitchen and grabs 2 knives for both her and Ibuki to kill Mikan!!
@@nveeouslyyou seem to have forgotten that mikan can fight, back, mikan would not let herself die first, since she promised to free junko, mikans whole plan for killing in the third trial, was to get every one except her get killed, so junko can be brought back to life, so she wouldn't go down without a fight, and Ibuki is too weak to fight mikan since she's under the despair disease, mikan even had to nurse her because of how weak she is, and hiyoko is too weak because of how small she is.
Ok another nagito misunderstanding: He wanted to kill everyone EXCEPT the traitor. He knew the secret of the remnants of despair, and wanted to keep the traitor(the only one that wasn't a remnant) alive. Nagito's murder scenario would likely be the bombs being real, committing a murder-suicide scenario that kept Chiaki alive. Monokuma would hate this outcome because of the lack of despair, which would make chapter 5 an oddly hopeful one.
Just a thought. I get that this is supposed to swap victim and convicted killer, but that's less likely.
Actually ignore me I just kept watching
I honestly thought up of this murder. You’re probably right. But here’s my version, if your interested.
What if he just killed Chiaki because Nagito was caught in the act, and since Chiaki might go to warn the others about danger, Nagito immediately kills Chiaki. Maybe it would be unintentionally, but he decides that maybe, if he framed someone else, every remnant of Despair will die, as only the blackened can be executed if they were outed, in the name of HOPE. Basically what i’m saying is, Nagito’s original plan failed but gave him another idea for the murder. He tied Chiaki up, gave her wounds so she seem tortured, and took advantage that Fuyuhiko was going to the factory, where he set Fuyuhiko up. Nevertheless, Nagito got discovered, and he’ll reveal that all of them, including himself, are the remnants of despair and that they deserve to die along with him. I don’t think he would care much about the execution.
So even though i know his real plan was to kill everyone except Chiaki by making an impossible murder mystery, if Chiaki didn’t catch Nagito in the act, it would go as it originally intended. but because Chiaki found out, Nagito had no choice but to eliminate her. And he knew he couldn’t do his original plan but then thought up the second plan, which is exactly what i explained.
And i realized something. I think Nagito killed Chiaki without knowing Chiaki was the traitor. He dismissed it as “good riddance” since he thought Chiaki was a remnant of despair. Then he continues the plan of getting everyone killed by framing Fuyuhiko.
I think, more likely, he would've tried to kill everyone but Chiaki, but his bad luck would cause him to kill just Chiaki. In a reversed scenario.
1041 and Kyoko’s smug face 💀💀💀
“This is a call from the grave, begone THOT”
IKR!!!
Thanks, I hate it.
Leon was right ngl
Fr!
If Mahiru somehow killed Peko in self-defense, I don’t see her living to the trial as Fuyuhiko would’ve killed her for killing Peko but due to the first blackened rule he would get to live and Hiyoko would be livid
well there might be another 1-3 case where if you killed the killer of the first murder, it carries over
I thought that rule was introduced in v3??
@@moonyronpa
It was introduced in chapter 3 in the first game.
It was definitely in the second game since Monokuma talked about it when Nagito claimed he was gonna blow up the island
for me it would be interesting to see an execution on rantaro
There is actually a Rantaro execution from a cancelled instaronpa here on youtube if you're curious.
if rantaro killed tsumgui that means the killing game is over if she's still the mastermind.
@@verycloverz the clock one? If it's the clock one that's actually one of my favorite fan executions
I kinda wanna see the execution for Ultimate Impostor just to see how it would play out
@@FatalGaming370probably the official unused one
The idea of Angie basically controlling the investigation and trial is pretty cool actually. I wish we got to see something like that.
1:28 seems like a great image for if, say, Ishimaru accidentally killed Chihiro in Chapter 2. Could be interesting to have Mondo angrily defend him and get upset over his execution.
if mahiru were the killer then we could say goodbye to fuyuhiko bc she mightve killed him too if she realized the motive
that would be cool if the killers and victims changed places, so the remaining students can find out who the masterminds are
thanks for showing us a what if possibility
Angie as the killer is such a hugely missed opportunity. So many more people would be against you than in Case 4. It'd be like the Mikan case but even harder because its not just the thought of someone being too innocent to be the killer, but a 'friend' to a lot of people. Kaito ofc would be on her side too in a scrum debate. Honestly you might only have Koichi siding with you after that initial accusation.
There also would not have been a double murder unless Angie kills Himiko during the seance. (I doubt she'd risk it.)
3:08 damn you really did her like that
If we’re talking about Hiyoko, then:
Deserved. She got was coming to her, and it should stay that way.
@@SwordBotMk3 i think they meant ibuki
@@SwordBotMk3lmao
wait a sec-
Heh, not so smug now eh, Hiyoko?
Or should I say...”pig barf”?
@@SwordBotMk3Hiyoko should not have died in chapter 3 imo
Angie would have been a terrifying blackened
Yeah especially given her talent would make it more difficult to assume she’s the killer since she’s the ultimate artist, therefore, if she killer someone, and someone saw her walking around one can unwittingly assume that she’s just a messy painter becuase she could simply say that the blood is just red (or pink in this case) paint
for miu's trial i think she would win or it would be REALLY hard to figure out because there are multiple things that only miu knew in the trial so if she actually caculated things a bit more like the sign that she threw into the water which actually helped shuichi figure out that the wall existed and i forgot some other details like "how he figured out her avatar was set to object" but there are many things that she could have calculated a bit more and if she did i think she would have won instantly
if she wins than everyone besides the blackened will get executed.
kokichi commiting "suicide" is easily figured out to be a cover up because of the effects of the poison miu placed on his chair, so shuichi would discover someone is responsible for his death quickly
i feel like everyone forgot about the poison part when they talk about this trial
+ considering miu made the game and she said there are no weapons (they would discover its a lie) she is a great suspect
but like you said, if she Calculated better her plan, she would win. easily? depends, but it can be a hard trial for both her and Shuichi
@@notmithosis7350 yeah I feel like miu not scratching off the poison or deleting the murder weapon she used (idk if she could do that) her plan was so flawed but had the chance to be one of the hardest to solve (or she could have won if it was realistic and it had multiple endings) but in the end all we can do is speculate 🙃
@@Frosty-Iruma1969 there is also the fact that Gonta is a factor in all of this too, who could easily apprehend her or be a victim by being unlucky.
@@Frosty-Iruma1969 lets also add in that for this to be as hard as it could be, Kokichi would have needed to willingly walking into what he would see as a likely trap or dumbed down to not recognise the trap. The only reason Kokichi walked up there was because he had a plan. Otherwise it would be very unlikely for him to even show up.
let's be real, out of everything we've seen in this video, the killers who could get away with it are:
Maybe Chihiro
Nekomaru if he didn't confess
Maybe Nagito if he played his cards right
Possibly Rantaro if he never confesses
Ryoma if nobody believed him, although he wouldn't want to win, he definitely could if nobody believed him
Angie if she killed Korekiyo
Tenko if she killed Korekiyo
Miu, easiest win
Kokichi if he shuts his damn mouth
Only thing setting chihiro back is byakuya
I think Miu would be a terrible liar and would accidentally blurt out something suspicious that reveals herself due to pressure. So no, I don't think Miu can get away with it
Tbf, Nekomaru would probably have a chance of getting caught considering Fuyuhiko watched him go downstairs and once everyone figures out how the funhouse works it would provide a pretty clear picture. The only differences would be that they would have no idea the clocks were changed or the fact that Gundham was the one who actually set everything up.
Honestly I feel like nekomaru would just confess anyway, since he has the same mentality as gundham did for why they fought
Might just be me tho idk
"Makoto Gets Framed Like Originally Planned" Welp. Makoto Commits A Kaede On Us
"Tenko would not be executed because of the first com first serve rule"
"Not possible! That rule was added after BOTH murders!"
-Korekiyo Shunguiji
So did 1-3 not happen
@@PigBoy99 no, they just changed the rules at a certain point
Ngl i forgor 🤯 you are right
That would just mean Tenko was expecting to possibly get executed but was given a get out of jail free card.
Plus while people claim the 1-3 case, it could simply be that if the original killer was killed, it would just carry over or it would be a very exploitable loophole that people could use.
You just HAD to use THAT comic for the the swapped 1-1 killer...
Thank you for mentioning me! It was an honor to help you! :D
Like I said in the video "What if the DR victims survived", these victim blackened swap ideas make me wanna do fanfics about them, which I will credit you and everyone by linking the video to my Ao3 story if I ever make it!
Again, thanks for accepting some of my ideas! :D
Yes thank you very much for your ideas🤯🤯🤯 :D
@@YourFavoriteNPC You’re welcome! :D
Glad I carried the video like you said. ^^
The others did a pretty good job too! ;)
I hope you’re excited for my fanfics when if I do make them, which I will tell you when I finished one! ;)
@@rubenrubio6875 yes please link them OR send them on my discord server 🤯
@@YourFavoriteNPC Of course! ;)
@@YourFavoriteNPC By the way, do you delete messages if we ask for the Discord server? It always seems to disappear, if that’s the case, I apologize, I didn’t know.
“Tell them naegi”
“YOU GOT THAT WRONG”
“That isnt what you were supposed to tell them naegi”
I dunno I think Miu could still be executed because out of all the people in the NWP, who else could perform a whole murder plot better than Miu who modified it?
5:39 Imo,she would've killed korekiyo after finding him in the room cause she would probably figure out hes planning to kill someone,and the whole reason why she created the student council is to protect people from being killed.
she would kill someone to prevent someone from getting killed??
aaah the V3 ch3 scenario was so good
Dude omg thanks for including my account I don't know why but that actually made me really happy lmao 💀
THE THOT IMM CRYINGG
And I’m seething
Ngl i wished that in the actual game that Kaito took Ryomas hat after his death just to remind him of someone who died that he could of helped and then right before Kaito dies he hands Ryomas hat to Shuichi
For Chihiro’s murder, i doubt it would happen, but if it did, yeah, he would indeed freeze. Byakuya appear (witness) and instead of ratting him out, Byakuya makes things “Interesting” (setting Mondo like Genocide Jack’s murderer), using knifes from the kitchen to stick Mondo’s body in the wall. I feel like Chihiro would feel so much guilt that he wouldn’t say much in the trial, probably crying in the process, and people will think he’s just mourning Mondo. And after Chihiro gets discovered, he would most likely break down, saying “I’M SORRY, I DIDN’T KNOW WHAT TO DO!! IT WAS AN ACCIDENT, I SWEAR!!” Then Chihiro confesses what he did. They would then discover Chihiro is a man, and he would die in despair.
Also, with Hiyoko. Yeah, fair point. (I actually cant see a murder. Not because of the height, but genuinely cant see how it would go)
Also with Nagito’s case. It might be lame, but what if he just killed Chiaki because Nagito was caught in the act, and since Chiaki might go to warn the others about danger, Nagito immediately kills Chiaki. Maybe it would be unintentionally, but he decides that maybe, if he framed someone else, every remnant of Despair will die, as only the blackened can be executed if they were outed, in the name of HOPE. Nagito’s plan backfire but gave him another idea for the murder. He tied Chiaki up, gave her wounds so she seem tortured, and took advantage that Fuyuhiko was going to the factory, where he set Fuyuhiko up. Nevertheless, Nagito got discovered, and he’ll reveal that all of them, including himself, are the remnants of despair and that they deserve to die along with him. I don’t think he would care much about the execution.
HOLYYYYYYYYYYYY. It has been A *WHILE* since I saw somthing about danganronpa and the first 0:03 seconds just brought back some memories.
2:58 the video is blurred on my end?? Idk why though and prob some weird ass settings stuff but wondering if this is happening with any body else
Its blurred to me as well
I think Miu’s murder could’ve been solvable, here’s how:
1. Suspicious already that she set up the NWP and someone wound up dead. Just like Himiko in Ch.2, Same thing happens to Miu.
2. Tsumugi saw Miu at the Mansion, this means that there is now a possibility that Everyone in the Mansion including Miu is now a suspect.
3. Kiibo heard the chat with Miu and Kokichi. Meaning Miu would’ve been caught because Keebo would have confessed that, and Tsumugi saw Miu outside the mansion.
With those two arguments+ she made the NWP, she could have been easily caught. Although we wouldn’t know the cause of death, or how Kokichi was frozen and couldn’t move. There would be some empty holes that wouldn’t be filled unless Miu told them after being caught guilty.
Likely a slip of mouth could be the solution.
1041 as sayaka's name is hilarious
For Miu's case, Shuichi is capable of weeding out lies. Sure it'll probably be harder without Kokichi, but it's not like Shuichi is helpless in a situation like that. In fact, assuming the case plays out how Miu intends, Shuichi would run through a number of steps to figure out Kaito can't be the killer:
1) The poison still wouldn't have proven to be the cause of death, meaning the only one capable of killing Kokichi in the outside world (Kaito), couldn't have done it.
And that's it. From there, Shuichi just has to recognize that Miu was keeping secrets about the Killing Game Simulator, and discern that she's the only one who was capable of setting up the events as they happened with the power she held.
He might not be able to confirm a murder on Miu's part, at least that she's the one who tried to frame Kaito. But using process of elimination, we still have Shuichi and Tsumugi (who were already witnesses to each other's alibis AND Tsumugi saw Miu anyway), Kaito, who was logged out early, and Gonta, who is either on the roof and doesn't act when Kokichi needs him to, OR he's not with Kokichi in the first place. Whatever it is, Gonta is still the only person on that side capable of commiting the crime, but like- without Kokichi to twist his motives, it's probably more likely Gonta doesn't act. Shuichi would probably come to the conclusion that Miu took advantage of her power before assuming Gonta is the most likely blackened.
3:16 SDRA2 ref???
(Ibuki's blackened reveal thing is traced over Emma Magorobi's blackened reveal thing).
6:24 - I totally agree however if it is correct, then HH Trial 3 would have been wrong. Even though he was influenced, Hifumi killed Taka before Celeste killed Hifumi. That meant even though Hifumi was dead for the 3rd trial, he would still be the Blackened. Trial 4 proves dead people can be Blackened due to Sakura.
I actually would have loved to have seen this happen in HH. Gang figured it out, vote Hifumi as the Blackened and are correct, BUT Celeste now has to go back with them with everyone knowing what she did. I'd be shocked if she wasn't the next dead in that scenario.
Love these videos NPC!
Sidenote; really like your Ryoma Setup, actually makes Solid Sense without being easily there like with Sayaka (given that one was flat out proposed in THH)
What if instead of double murders, we had double culprits?
Don't think it would be that interesting nor would it lead to good writing but still food for thought.
Have fun looking up super danganronpa another 2.
Other than that, its either one kills for no reason or they kill and the blackened status carries over.
We love a youtuber that credits their fans ideas‼️
I'm pretty sure that Sayaka would give Makoto hints that she's the Culprit after finding out about the class trials and executions.
Kaito sold so hard if kokichi wouldve just taken matter into his own hands and just kill kaito his plan actually couldve worked
Thinking about what if sayaka's plan work or not really hurts
Makoto suffered alot in the series and if at the beginning the girl she promised to protect frame him for killing someone else would have been even more heartbreaking for him
I need someone to explain how Ryoma, without a weapon, could kill Kirumi
I know he is a mass murderer, but, still, *height* and there is nothing he could use
strike kneecaps to bring her down to his level, he has the speed and strength to fire metal-tennis balls so him bringing her down to his level and killing her by brutal beatdown or strangulation would be an option.
he killed a mafia by striking metal balls, i'd say he's pretty strong and you can't underestimate a mass murderer
4:45 Not necessarily. Closest thing we get idea of “Kill mastermind = Ends the killing game” is more of an assumption that was made by Akamatsu, not a fact though I might be misremembering that.
If Someone killed Shirogane then it probably wouldn’t have ended the game, remember the flashbacks lights are thing in the V3 universe that can put in false identities and memories…what’s stopping the Team Danganronpa/Monokuma if this happened to give one of the remaining students (Besides Kiibo as he is the audience’s in universe Protag) a flashback light and make them the new mastermind in her place.
Basically like you said, “they can bring in a replacement”…
No because Nagito would have a fire execution. The thing is he would make a surprise return at the end because of his luck, he wouldn’t have died…
7:41
It’s a beautiful masterpiece
Is taht Kaite, that guy from Danganronpa Zero, Komaru, Fuyuhiko, Chiaki, and that guy with blue hair?
0:31 …. I’m speechless
Ayyy thanks for including some of my ideas
0:21 "thot"
I was interested in the hiyoko killing mikan scenario but then the dude just went "hiyoko cant kill mikan with that height" even though he made chihiro kill mondo 💀
Yeah, he kinda lacked imagination for this. And there would have been A way for it to happen.
We know about the assassination attempts on Hiyoko so it won’t be out of the question for her to use one of those on Mikan. Sandbags are a great counterweight so she could trick Mikan into a guitar string noose and use the sandbags to hoist Mikan up with the guitar string framing Ibuki. We know Mikan is tending to everyone so Hiyoko can likely make a lie that there is a need for first aid and when Mikan goes to help, that’s when she executes her plan and kills Mikan
Awww Chihiro actually being strong enough to push mondo
2:54
Why is Mahiru the protag in that image?
And Hajime the blackened
I also think a "What if _(x)_ was the protagonist?" would be a cool idea
Good idea. But unfortunately would be a really long video and would really be really after anything..
Because editing exists
@@charleshenrigoncalvesmedei3250 I’m imagining it going game by game
Part 1(THH)
Part 2(GD)
Part 3(V3)
A lot of these hurt to think about (especially the thought of Chihiro battling his guilt over killing Mondo).😭
I will say, though, I do like the idea of Tenko surviving and Kaito being the only male who trusts her. Might make for a very interesting dynamic!
with the kaito kokichi swap i imagine the murder to be quite similiar just kokichis shirt in the press with something like the long bits at the end hangin out and kaito shirt in the toilet
Kokichi might if been able to reveal Miu's bullcrap if only Gonta got murdered
Tenko still would’ve been the official culprit. Take THH’s Chapter 3 for example. Hifumi was the first culprit, but he was killed by Celeste which made her the official culprit. This is the same scenario for Tenko
I dunno, I would’ve hard suspected Miu the whole time. If she made the world, told me she removed violence, and then a violence happened, that would cast doubt on everything she says going forward for me.
To be fair, wouldn't Miu be suspect number one in the trial? She isn't really that good at talking her way out of things. She get's antsy very fast and flustered even more. I doubt that she wouldn't make herself insanely suspicious just by trying to bs her way out of this. I think they may not be able to really fully prove its her but if push comes to shove, she'd be the one they vote for at the end just for acting up like this.
We need to consider that this isn't a legit trial. You CAN be found guilty without any decent proof just by people being sure that you did it.
Kokichi couldn't have given Kaito a portion of the antidote and drank the rest himself, if I remember correctly it only works if you drink the whole bottle
Not so sure Abt the Kokichi one Tbh
It gets the Point Across of Saving the Remaining Students by turning the game Inside out, but I think he would’ve Handled the Situation with Kaito a bit Differently
THAT FACE ON SAYAKAS FACE IM ROLLING ON THE FLOOR
Same
Miu was close
Literally
I feel like for chihiro. It would have been a sorta leon situation except it feels more like an accident where he throws a random object at mondo. It likely would be something sharp like a prop sword that is actually sharp. Think its a prop. Use it to defend himself. And you know how it might play out
V3's Ch.1 and the Ch.3 cases have possibilities.
Like 3-1, it depends since Tsumugi or Kaede can be the victim. If Tsumugi's the victim, a replacement mm could be chosen and Kaede could be the protag for the entire game. This could possibly change the course of the entire V3 and we could have a blackened/victim Shuichi. If Kaede's the victim, Rantaro's the blackened and everything plays out in a reverse type thing.
(For the double murder chapters)
THH: If Hifumi was the killer, he would either kill Taka then kill Celeste for trying to betray him or just kill Celeste, making Taka possibly survive.
If Taka was the killer instead, he could kill Hifumi and Celeste in self defense or just kill Hifumi. If onky Hifumi survived, this could probably make Celeste kill Sakura next chapter in an assisted suicide type thing out of desperation because of how much she wanted to escape at that point. This could also play out as a possible double murder for Ch.4 instead, with Celeste killing Sakura while weakened and Hina walking in and killing Celeste. Hiro would see and Hina would knock him out and hide him while Syo would see and fight with Hina, everyone possibly thinking Syo killed them both and Hina tried to kill Syo when the culprit was actually Hina. Or the other way since this is a swap, with Celeste killing Hina while Hina was helping Sakura with her suicide, Sakura finds out and snaps Celeste's neck out of anger. If she didn't drink the poison, everyone would think she killed both of them out of passion cause she was the traitor but really it was sudden circumstance.
GD: If Hiyoko was the killer, the only way this would happen is if she walked in on Mikan strangling Ibuki. Since canonically Hiyoko died first, she would kill Mikan and tell Ibuki to kill herself while she was under the disease. She would've easily been caught but Nagito and Hajime would conclude that Mikan was affected.
If Ibuki was the killer, it would be because of her gullible disease. She would have probably been manipulated by Mikan to orchestrate two murders, one by Ibuki and one by her. She would've told Ibuki to kill probably Hiyoko, Nagito or even someone else in the hospital who was affected or not. She could've also betrayed her like Celeste did Hifumi rught after. Let's say Mikan choose Nagito for Ibuki to target and someone else was affected instead of him, he most likely would've found out and convinced Ibuki to kill Mikan instead and everyone finds Mikan's hanging body. Ibuki tries to convince everyone she's innocent and one of the cured just like Mikan did in canon, Hajime figures out and Nagito reveals Mikan and Ibuki were both affected, getting Ibuki caught and thus Hiyoko surviving. If Hiyoko was to die, Mikan would've probably killed her and then got killed by Ibuki or Hiyoko walked in on Ibuki killing Mikan. Let's say Nagito was there (he would be there to tell Ibuki to kill herself if Hiyoko didn't walk in), he would tell Ibuki to kill Hiyoko, but Hiyoko would've probably ran away. If Nagito was still affected, he would've been under watch by Hajime and Chiaki to avoid anything happening. Everyone would be assigned to watch Akane, Ibuki and Nagito while Mikan mostly nursed the three not knowing she was also affected. Hajime or someone else would've caught Ibuki trying to murder Nagito in secret causing the plan to fail.
2:34 ...it was you... TWOgami
"...I guess I said too much yesterday."
Ibuki: TwoWAT??
Love that is every scenario tenko is safe
if Rantaro killed Kaede chapter 1 i could see Shuichi not having fighting for the truth as much though he would have outed Rantaro in trial 1 ( if their even was one he may have taken the first blood perk and be thrown out the door at the end of the death road of despair) and he likely would have solve the 2nd as well which means he likely would have supported Angie council in chapter 3 and she be pushing to bring Kaede back
but if Tsumugi died he definitely take the perk and i think they just make K1BO the MM
Miu may have still lost but it be because of her messing up in the trial
nooooooooooooooo not rantaro killing kaede
4:45 The good ending ( Because kiyo lived )
5:43 bro imagine how badass Angie would have looked if this happened
Bro its surreal to see your art used by content creators you enjoy 😳😳😳 (Itsa me, **UNDERTALE_Scrub**)
Aside from that I absolutely love theorizing “what ifs” like this! Something about changing the order/play out of storylines has always intrigued me, there’s just so many routes and concepts I wish were explored/used more in Danganronpa canon!
Wait… YOU are that artist? 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@@YourFavoriteNPC yeah, that’s me!thank you for using my stuff 🤧🤧
Yes thank YOU, you are very awesome 🤧🤧🤯
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5:11 How come Himiko's here? I do know of a piece of fanart that has Shuichi confronting Ryoma at the end of a closing argument, which could've been used here.
Ngl i thought it looked funny thats why i included it 🤯
@@YourFavoriteNPC Lmao, fair enough.
@@shukuchishikeishuu9540 thank you for your ideas btw! I enjoyed them :D
(chapt 2 be like)
Kyotaka to Chihiro: 1:38
I wanna point out 2 things. First of all height doesn’t really matter so to say that hiyoko wouldn’t be able to kill mikan bc of her height is wrong. It would be hard to kill if she was weaker then mikan which is probably true but you should’ve pointed that out instead of her height (ryoma is an example) and second if ryoma said he did it they wouldn’t believe him not bc he is suicidal but bc it would seem sudden. If ryoma didn’t die they would not be able to find that out unless he showed them that. Maybe he would show it to them after to get him executed but if he said that they would actually investigate to see if he is telling the truth kinda like trial 4 in drv3
thinking about if Imposter and Nagito both confess to the murder in chapter 1 and the idea is to find out who could have actually done it. theres never really been a scenario like that except maybe 3-4
5:00
Or Tsumugi could kill Kaede and frame Rantaro
In all Honesty i feel a Mukuro Trial would Be Way Different than a Junko One- Mostly because of the Fact that Mukuro is nothing like Her Sister. She would've been Colder and Methodical Still Carrying on With Her Mission of Bringing Despair. But in Having to Kill Her Own Sister She'd be so lost in It Herself she Quits or It Pushes Her Over The Deep end which could lead to it being similar to Junko's Version of the Trial
7:41 a perfect ending pic!
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1:45 source please?
Some of the pics are HILARIOUS
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6:23 remember celeste? She was executed even if she hadn't kill taka
Hiyoko maybe could've seen mikan trying to kill ibuki and took the chance to kill her?? Idk
Reuben Rubio over here carrying the whole video
5:43...
Great font choice...
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DEMOMAN ALWAYS CARRIED THIS VIDEO
I'm sorry but I tap on the video and the first thing I hear was Beyakuya saying "i dont think orphanages exist" ... i can already tell this will be a 10/10 video lollll
Here’s an idea for 1-5: Who gets saved by Alter Ego and who bad in the bad ending is reversed.
2:22 ...
Whoops
Q_Q
But if they caught tsumugi then the KG would have ended since the mastermind died.
Angie trial is actualy hard for shuici 😢
the hamsters would snitch on nekomaru if Gundham died
7:41
Why did i laugh at this-
Since killers and victims swap, V1 Chapter 3 would play out like this:
Hifumi would kill Celeste,
Taka would then kill Hifumi.
In this scenario, the same number of people die, which won’t mess with the survivors.
I thought up a bonus one for the end Of V3.
(Please correct me where you feel necessary, if im wrong!!)
Tsumugi, if Rantaro had Decided to kill Kaede, Would attempt to take everyone out (maybe explosives, Or Using keebo?). Keebo, (If he is being used, he basically snaps out of it) is able to Save the final 3, (as he did originally), With the cost of his own life..
(To be fair, i wouldn't count this as one either, but i just thought I'd add the twist because why not.)
What the fuck the last image help AJBSJWWBWW 💀
poggers Miu
As much as people like to say Miu case would be impossible or really hard to figure out, it has flaws.
One is that Kokichi has to know the plan to even have a motive to play along with everything.
If he doesnt know ahead, he would have to be extra stupid to fall for a very obvious set-up or see a benefit from her killing him.
Lets say he knows and his plan accidentally goes wrong? Well there is some issues there too. If Gonta is there but fails to save him by killing Miu, Gonta can just snitch on her to everyone about what Kokichi told him. Meaning she has to deal with accusations and maybe switch her original plan to accuse Kaito into accusing Gonta, which would be a nightmare for her.
Option two, she accidentally kills both Gonta and Kokichi, one could see Kaito kill Kokichi yes but for him to kill Gonta too? That wouldnt make much sense and have everyone question if it actually happened, opening up to research the world instead of it being "they were poisoned." And then we'd have it be a game of Kaito killing two people or Miu killing two people. Because they both would have terrible alibis. With the killer being that Tsumugi did see Miu walk past a window, proving she wasnt where she would say she was. Making her even more suspicios than Kaito. After that, it might come down to just gut-feelings of the contestants and...yeah that group likes Kaito more than they like Miu as seen.
TLDR; If its just a victimswap, the case would be much easier than what people claims it would be. There's just too many factors to make original case 4 that happens, meaning that if we just swap victims, it would crumble to a rather easy case.
loll ibuki's exposed pose is from sdra2
I don't think orphanages exist too
Who is the man beside Fuyuhiko Kaito and Byakuga at 7:41
I think with Chihiro she would choke Mondo with a bag so he would keep his secret a secret
the killerof ibuki looks like the killer of emma Magrobi from Sdra2