If the text clarity is good with the 32" 4K 240/480Hz model that sounds like a top candidate for a very versatile main monitor, I can't wait to see it released and catch some reviews. I hope that getting better support for arbitrary subpixel structures is on Microsoft new year's resolutions. Thanks for the work @TFTCentral!
@jeffersonmp4 why? You can get pixel perfect integer scaling from a 4k panel for 1080p (exactly 4 monitor pixels per res pixel) and so for gaming and multimedia, it should look very good. Lower res of course and less detail, but much higher frame rate/better motion clarity/ reduced end to end lag
@@faer075 I would really like either the 34-39" 5120x2160 240hz monitor. If they nuke my baby with a matte coat i will die if no one else makes the panel with gloss.
Weirdly, I'm mostly excited for the 5120x2160 OLED monitors. I know it seems niche, but 4K vertical + the benefits of ultrawide seems to be the best of both worlds, and it was always a shame that resolution wasn't explored further on LCD panels. I'm assuming 39" would be the sweet spot in terms of pixel density, but I'd have to see it at 45" before choosing.
@@AgentMoler I agree, I think once more people actually get a chance to see one of these monitors in its glory, 3440x1440 will (finally) stop being the default. I do think the biggest hang-up will be how hard it is to drive for gaming, but if nothing else, for productivity, content consumption, and sheer "wowness", it'll be hard to beat. Peak monitor IMO.
Agree on this, do however wonder what future GPU (and what it will cost) will be needed to drive such a beast for gaming. My UW 1440p is already taxing the 7900XTX and still nowhere near 240hz on most games.
Interesting update, and I like the idea of 39" to split the difference between 34/45. It's unfortunate that LG did a one and done (though I think they had two versions of the 38" panel) on the 3840x1600 resolution as this seems like it'd be perfect for the forthcoming 39"s.
Yeah I think 21:9 has just become more standardised than the 24:10 aspect of those panels. A bit like how 16:10 aspect was phased out and overtaken by 16:9
Maybe do a video explaining what the white sub pixel removal is all about. It’s due to the new blue phospher coming to the OLED industry in 2025. And it’s not just removing a white sub pixel, it allows LG to remove an entire panel layer of the monitor, allowing more brightness, more energy efficiency (and perhaps more clarity due to one less layer).
more than likely LG wont be losing layers. firstly the current models are made where one layer red, one layer blue, and one layer green are stacked. then subpixels wise, the have 3 color filters for each main color respectively (red/blue/green) and then one subpixel which is clear, aka white. removing that white subpixel they would still need the three layers. samsung, went the route of 1 layer of blue oled. then using quantum dots to filter red/blue/green respectively. IF LG goes this route, i except there to be patent issues that will breach on samsungs designs. which will be bad for LG. this to me means that LG will continue with their typical 3 layer OLED. red/green and a new blue layer. and then simply filtering red/blue/green with their own color filters (which are inferior to quantum dots anyway). so yeah it will be brighter thanks to the blue layer, but still not a single layer like samsung (unless they pay samsung to use their patent which means higher consumer prices for LG OLEDs so again, probably wont happen). Edit: confirmed its a typical MLA panel from LG, meaning its their classic design. Nothing special/new.
@@joecox9544 LG panel structure is the same they have always had 3 layers. One blue, one green, one red. Stacked. Together and all turned on equal white. Then they use their own color filters to make red/green/blue sub pixels respectively. Leaving the white subpixel filter clear for pure white. Samsung panels are literally just one blue layer (not stacked r/g/b like LG), with quantum dots on top to make red/blue/green subpixels. Its why samsung was able to hop into the oled game so fast. Its a simpler technology. And since quantum dots are a samsung patent technology, their color filtering is superior. Samsung can stack extra layers of blue sheets to increase brightness, but its a balancing act. Technically since LG stacks 3 layers samsung could stack 3. Even first gen panels I couldn't find if samsung was using 1 layer of blue or 3 layers of blue....
@@tftcentral hey just want you to know I really love your content. Especially the collab with hwunbox is amazing. Thanks for your effort! Have a nice new year
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@thecobainnn4244 yes based on the current panel mass production timescales expected. None have been announced yet but if things stay on track we could see monitors released using that panel around Sept/Oct time
@@tftcentral Great, thanks bro. I ask this because here in Brazil, LG doesn't release recently launched monitors, but Asus and Alienware are strong here. Last question: Due to competition from Oled's in 2024, what price would these panels come at? Could you make a video about this
Nice. Wait for 8k@120Hz quadruple dynamic resolution monitor begins (8k@120, 4k@240, 1440p@360, 1080p@480Hz - with 8k all these resolution can be integer scaled by a monitor). That would be a beast and reminiscent of options available on old CRTs ;)
@@Skrenja not really, because I personally have seen plenty of 4K screens and I have also seen that 8k dell monitor from years ago and it is a night and day difference that monitor after so many years later still looks absolutely amazing
Blurbusters indicated that we would get fast OLEDs with BFI in 2023, but that didn't materialize. At this point, Mini-LED seems to be the way to go unless you have the money and space for separate productivity and gaming/media monitors.
If you specifically want strobing blur reduction /BFI, then yes, maybe. Although a lot of those are pretty poor really. It all depends on your usage and requirements though
@@tftcentral I don't know, to be honest! I want to eliminate motion blur once and for all and don't know if today's OLEDs at today's frame rates are enough to do that. I know BFI does, but it has never functioned well on LCDs.
Well oled certainly gets closer to eliminating blur. A 480Hz future oled should be amazing, the equivalent of a 720Hz LCD if it existed. I’d expect that to look overall better across the full screen and without any flicker artefacts than the vast majority of strobing LCD tbh
@@tftcentral that's good in theory, but I have a 7000XTX and there are many games you just can't drive at 400+ FPS, even with AI upscaling. Whereas BFI looks great at 144Hz, minus cross-talk.
Definitely going for LG 32" 4K panel, Samsung have not impressed me with their near black gamma issues. Shame since I do like the extra punch in colors that comes with QD.
I don't understand if qd oled is geniunely like more saturated (while being accurate?) thatn woled or if it's a case of, in vivid mode you can deep fry the colours even further than you can in woled. Cause I don't use my lg c3 in vivid mode as I use it as a monitor for creative work, I need an accurate view of what I'm working on. I suppose it's like studio audio monitors (speakers) with a flat frequency response with no EQ on them, meanwhile you can buy consumer speakers with a super cranked up EQ. Is this the saturation difference in qd oled vs woled or am I mistaken?
@definingslawek4731 it’s nothing to do with any vivid modes or inaccurate fake boosts of vividness. It’s because of the wider colour gamut of the QD layer, colours look more vivid and that in turn increases the perceived brightness of colours too. This only matters if you’re using the screen in its full wide gamut mode though of course. If you used sRGB emulation on both screens to work with SDR content for instance, they’d both have the same emulated colour space and would look the same
@@tftcentral I'm still confused though as when I switch from vivid on my c3 to my customised filmmaker mode for accuracy, the colours get less saturated and it gets less contrasty, which would suggest to me that vivid mode is essentially already too saturated. Are you saying that qd oled when setup to be accurate would be more saturated than lg woled? (I'm imagining if I'm already not using the maximum saturation of my panel then the option to go even further isn't important to me.) I do use my c3 in its native colour gamut.
@definingslawek4731 there’s a difference here between what vivid mode is doing and what is achieved through increased colour space coverage. Vivid mode is “faking” more saturation but does so by making the image and colours less accurate. If you increase the colour gamut/colour space of the panel then it can cover more colours potentially, but can do so while those colours are still accurate. The difference would only really be visible if you were viewing content that was mastered in that wider colour space though. If you viewed SDR content then that’s mastered in the small sRGB colour space and so it won’t use all of the available gamut anyway. Likewise if the content is in DCI-P3, commonly used for HDR content then those WOLED panels can already cover that colour space and so the extra gamut of the QD panel wouldn’t be needed. If however the content was mastered in a wider gamut colour space like Rec2020 then the QD panel could cover more of that, and would therefore look more colourful and vivid, but importantly that would be “new” colours that the WOLED panel can’t cover, and would still be accurate.
Hoping for 4k240hz in 42 inch size. I have 55 inch c9, and immersion is unparalleled. I also bought 32 inch 4k 144hz monitor, and it's far less immersive compared to 55 incher, despite me sitting much closer. Size matters. Better than 27, definitely, but not as immersive as 55. But I can't sit close to 55 or I get screen door effect (pixels too large).
480hz 1440p Oled 🤯🤯🤯 Iv been looking at the current 27" LG oled as it's on sale with £250 off but with this news I think I'll just hold on to my budget 144hz save some money and see what's available this time next year. Wouldn't want to invest £750 into a monitor to find out the upgrade is just around the corner.
All that I want is improved text clarity, DP 2.0 (DP 1.4 with DSC would be crazy for a high-end monitor in 2024), a sturdy stand, only lightly curved ultrawide displays and maybe a good glossy implementation (I still remember my NEC 20WGX2 from 2005, it was IPS + glossy and the picture was very nice). Also, one more thing - the ability to lower max brightness in HDR mode. If I'm in a very dark room and sitting close to the monitor, 600+ nits of brightness literally hurts my eyes. And that is it!
42 inch is amazing for monitor / desktop use! It's not about fitting MORE on the screen and sitting at the same distance and moving your head around a lot (This is when it might feel too big) It's about putting the same amount of content on screen as you'd have with a 32 inch but just larger, meaning you can sit further away and your eyes can focus with less strain as they're not focusing on something as close. And for gaming or watching a movie you can come in a little closer if you'd like some more immersion!
Wow, the lineup for 2024 looks like it will offer what we've been waiting for for years now. Everything up to the present "compromizes" in one way or another (ultrawide, tv size, low brightness). These certainly appealed to some, but this next year will have something for everyone. Hopefully prices continue to drop as well.
But OLED will always suffer from not enough brightness, which is one of the main problems that I have with buying an OLED monitor (aside from the obvious burn in risk). That 1300 nits is only on a 3% window
For general use, I'm keen to see the new Sub-pixel layout of the 27" 1440p 480hz model, and for 4K desktop media consumption the 32" at 140ppi would be deluxe! The future seems OLED so I think we should expect text rendering to be fixed and mass production at the point all the issues are fixed and burn-in minimized for various use cases
Thanks, I am very sad to hear there is nothing happening to 42" panel. I was holding for better brightness and 240Hz, so i am skipping c3. Good they are tackling text clarity.
Not zero chance, but I think they are lower priority nowadays as that’s just not where the market volume is for this kind of display. I’d definitely encourage you to move up to 27” 1440p if you can though, it’s an amazing step up 😀
I'd love for one of these upcoming 4k 32" panels to also have hardware calibration as well. Currently there is a distinct lack of > 120Hz panels with accurate color reproduction for photography work. I like to play the odd game when I'm not working, and everything from BenQ, ProArt (apart from one model), Eizo, Dell Ultrasharp etc are stuck at 60Hz for some reason.
The LG 27GR95QE had hardware calibration (27" 1440p model) and so there's a good chance some of their future 32" OLED models could have the same. Expect more information soon on that with CES coming up
Waiting for the OLED version of the Samsung Neo G9 57" or a 2160 vertial 39" that I can use in a triple 4K monitor setup. 1440P is pretty good but once you go 4K its hard to go back and with the text clarity issues I feel like the higher PPI helps with that as well.
The main reason I'm holding off is for better text, so thank you. I had looked closely at getting a DWF as it was the perfect size for my space and the exact resolution I am wanting (40 or less and a 1440 in ultra wide), and with wraps coming in 2024 I am really glad I skipped getting it. Honestly though these manufacturers need to match the warranty Dell/Alienware are offering... These premium prices for only a 1 year warranty on something many will use for 5-10+ years is crazy low...
2 year warranty is not really helpful if you plan to use it for 5+ years. I'd love to have a 5 year burn-in warranty so I can just use it without worrying, but it's very unlikely to materialize (or they'll add a limitation like "cannot be used as a computer monitor", "no more than 1 hour per day" or something else - like office chair makers set an 8 hour daily limit on longer warranty, or limit it to a year).
@@SproutMasterI asked LG about burn-in warranty for 27GR95QE-B here in Finland (EU) at the same time that I asked if the warranty covers a dead pixel that I have on the monitor. They did say in the email that the warranty covers both. I don’t know anyone that would have sent one because of burn-in for warranty repair/exchange though.
I really wish they would push 5k for 32in oled for the text clarity / rendering to be that much better. Other than that a flat, glossy, 32'' 4k 240hz monitor is the realistic dream for 2024 for me.
Thanks for the video. I personally can’t wait to get my hands on the Alienware AW2725DF in a couple of months! A 27” QHD QD-OLED, glossy flat panel at 360Hz. Does it get any better?!
@@tftcentral Haha true! 😊 I’m not sure the motion clarity will be that much different than my 27GR95QE but the glossy coating and 250 nits under an sRGB clamp most certainly will. 😍
Man I wish they'd implement the new subpixel layout on the upcoming 27" 1440p in Q1 2024. This thing would instantly become a bestseller with no real weaknesses left. Guess we have to wait another year or two for that panel to happen :(
@@teekanne15In theory, MAYBE. I don't expect we'll see any kind of consumer monitor using microLED until 2028 at the minimum. But that would indeed be the holy grail of monitors.
The 32 inch 4K 240hz / 1080p 480hz monitor sounds very interesting but I think that 32 inches is simply too large in most excited for the 1440p 480hz monitor.
Lucky Goldstar and Samsung have come a long way since the days of cheap VCRs. I use a 42" C2 daily, with an old 42" VA (Wasabi Mango) to one side. Text is easier to read on the VA, but the C2 is visually stunning with HDR content. I look forward to even better in the future.
Yeah, defo. I love it on my LCD. I think it's a brightness issue. OLEDs simply have less to spare for the sacrifice. I could be wrong though and its just a trend.
32 inch - ✅ 4K ✅ 240hz (/480hz!?) ✅ New pixel layout ✅ As long as LG don't charge a gazillion pounds, I reckon this is gonna be the breakout OLED monitor this year.
Death, taxes, monitor manufacturers refusing to bless us with 3840x1600 ultrawide OLED panels. I'm actually very happy running my 42" C2 in a mixed 4K / 1600p 21:9 mode, but it's still funny how both LG and Samsung decided to skip 1600p and go straight to 2160p ultrawide.
32" 4K OLED is where it's at for me. At least that's the upgrade path that would make the most sense. I went from standard 1440p to 3440x1440 with the launch of the AW3418DW some years ago. With the majority of content still being 16:9, it doesn't make sense to go for an ultrawide OLED. Burn-in seems to be an issue when viewing standard 16:9 content on an UW display, something to keep in mind. Everything else can be mitigated. Hiding taskbars, toning down brightness, setting the monitor to sleep after a certain amount of time, etc.
I'd pick lower prices over more specs. The biggest issue (aside from price) with OLEDs is burn in, especialy for people that do office work as well as gaming/films. If 1440p 144hz 27inch OLEDS were £300, burn in wouldn't be such an issue as replacing it every 3/4 years would be ok. However they tend to be at least double that, often three times, which means it a lot of money. I'm still using LCDs from 8 years ago.
It will be a while before they get that low but there’s news of some lower spec versions of some of their existing panels in this video which should help drive pricing down over time
It surprises me how many people still worry about burn in. I have a b6, c9, CX and g2. I’ve been using the CX as a pc monitor for over two years and no burn in. I feel if you smart and mix content burn in is not an issue.
@@hugohserrano You just intimated as to why many people still worry about burn in: you have to worry about how you use your monitor, so yes, you have to use it with care to avoid burn in, even if it would take long-term to develop (3-4+ years). The mass market does not want to baby their displays, so a technology that needs babying is not ready or suitable for the mass market. If you have the means to use multiple displays (oled for media, lcd for work/browsing/etc., then great, but many people are not in such a position, and they can only use 1 monitor, so of course OLED burn-in chances is high on the list of considerations.
Do you know if the new Monitors will be available with Display port 2.1? Would makes sense with a 4K / 32” Panel. Great Video, love ur content for Monitor enthusiasts!
Extremely unlikely. It's not needed for 4K 240Hz as you can achieve that fine with DP 1.4 + DSC, and DP 2.1 isn't really mature enough yet. got some content coming on that topic soon hopefully...
@@tftcentral I would be really interested in a video about that topic. Anyways, I’m stoked for the next year, seems like it could be a good one for monitors. I’m looking forward to your content about these upcoming monitors!
Any word on if they are overcoming the brightness flicker associated with G-Sync? As a PC gamer, OLED is phenomenal. It always bugged me seeing backlight bleed and obviously OLED doesn't have that. That being said, it can be very distracting having brightness flicker is dark scenes. As far as I've found, this is it to do with the variability of the FPS and having G-Sync enabled. Those who are a little in the know, will understand how useful G-Sync is, I'm not willing to disable it just to have a flicker free existence. Not one reviewer ever mentions this sadly enough. I'd love to see resolved completely. Love the useful content though.
All these new specs are exciting, but if they’re matte, it’s an immediate pass for me and so many other people. I would buy the 27” 240Hz glossy on day one. Perfect for competitive fps games. That monitor alongside a qd-oled ultrawide sounds like the ultimate dual monitor setup.
Reflective coating isn't perfect for competitive fps games unless you're in a dark room, and then the overall light level is going to affect your alertness level lowering your performance.
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@@tftcentral Your review got me to buy a Dell U2311h around 12 years ago. Still running as secondary. Your quality and detail has always been spot on. Many thanks
I was on a 32" 2560x1440 monitor, and loved it. I decided to try the Alienware 34 OLED. It's alright, but I'd still prefer 32". I wish they would make a 32" 2560 oled panel 😢. My 4080 definitely can't do 4k 144hz, unfortunately.
@@Heliux1234k is still extremely hard to run, even on a 4090. You can hit the frames, but you need to turn down settings a lot. I don't see 4k high refresh being an actual thing for at least 2 more generation of cards. But by then game engines might be even more advanced and we'll be in the same boat.
If Lg improves text clarity, I'll definitely buy 39 or 45 WOLED. The only concern is the curve. 800R is too aggressive for 39 or 34 monitors. It should be around 1800R. Other than that, unless mini LED makes comeback, new OLED is the future monitors we all have been waiting for.
The way for ultrawide 34"/39" 4k - 240hrz is too long (2025), but I want to know what have to say others top brands in market. We'll see it soon...hope so. P.D: Thanks for great video and good information. 👍
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? 5120X2160???? that's been my dream display for years 🤩 and an oled! absolutely loved this video and all the info, very informative! huge fan of oled displayed and lg displays in general with a 42" C2 as my pc display, it's good to see oled panels being offered in so many sizes now and i'm ready for next gen oled panels! btw gloss is boss! before getting a CX in 2020 i was seriously concerned with a gloss panel but once i saw it i never wanted a matt panel again!
Really disappointing to see how little effort these monitor manufacturers are putting into lower panel sizes at normal aspect ratios. I really want a 4k panel preferably under 27in, but it'll be 2 years before they even produce a 27in 4k and there is absolutely nothing slated for 24/25in sizes. The obsession with larger monitors really needs to stop, some people don't want to dedicate the desk real estate to have the necessary viewing distance for these larger panels, and 27in 1440p isn't that great in terms of pixel density.
@@HUSTLEONLY-kz5bf Nobody wants 24in any more because nobody has made good 24-25in panels (aside from hyper niche eSports TN stuff) for the last decade and because monitor manufacturers have made panel size a dick measuring contest.
I want 3440*1600 resolution or something like… sigh( 21:9 is really lacking height, and 4k is too gpu demanding, not to mention this planned 5k craziness
first time here but I've been in the site maybe since 2005-2007. anyways, this channel should also cover TVs or TV panels too which are usually cheaper than monitors for the size and features.
Moving to the 57" Neo G9 as my current main monitor from a 34" UW, OLED is my next upgrade. So it needs to be the OLED version of the 57" G9 or I might be up for the 39" 4K 21:9 that is releasing Q1 of 2025 as that is the same size as the 57" just in 21:9 and that will let me add some side monitors to it in a multi-monitor config. Moving from 1440P to 4K, 4K is the only way now, and the greater pixel density will directly help the text clarity issues with OLED.
That 27” QHD coming in late 2024 sounds like the one. 480hz, text issue fixed, higher brightness. What could go wrong? …. Oh let’s slap a heavy matte coating on it!! I jest but if they end up doing this just kill me.
The manufacturer to fix OLED monitors vertical banding on 5-15% gray background will get my money. Strange my LG 55 CX has perfect uniformity near black, strange to see the monitors struggle with it.
Really excited for the 39-45 inch 5000+x2100 240hz widescreens to replace my 3840x1600 160-170hz widescreen. But i would have like to see them in q1-q2 this year but yeah its probably because the 50 series of nvidia would then adopt DP2.1 by then. (Although AMD already has them) but the GPU also have to be capable tho maxed out the bandwidth of the interface
You’ve absolutely thrown me - I was going to buy a G8, but the idea of fuzzy text is a deal breaker. Now I’m struggling to find a high end 32-34” that’s good for both work and gaming. Does that mean waiting until LG brings out their revised pixel structure?
The G8 is a gen 1 QD OLED panel and Samsung made some decent improvements for text clarity for gen 2, so I’d be inclined to wait for a second gen panel of that size (should be some this year), or perhaps hang on to see how LG Displays updates pan out too
I so desperately want the 39" 5120x2160 monitor. Enough resolution for work while being perfect for gaming. And not other monitor required, cause everything fits within one. (I currently have a 5120x2160 IPS 72Hz Monitor at work, which is cool, but just for work)
As someone that can't stand ultrawide and extrawide, seeing some major improvements to the 27" monitors is very welcome. In theory it means the old models will come down in price as well!
I have a super ultra rides for about six years now, and for me, it’s difficult to go back to a 27 inch or something like that the fact that they can display multiple pieces of info on a single screen is such a timesaver and just overall very handy to have. Maybe I will buy it, 32 inch 4K monitor for gaming and desktop usage, and then use my current monitor as some sort of information screen
I think the elephant in the room for these WOLED panels is whether or not there are any improvements in color performance of these WOLED panels. Monitors like the ASUS PG27AQDM has horrendous color reproduction issues in HDR mode. It could only achieve 89% DCI-P3 coverage in HDR mode while having massive skin tone issues with the MCM104 firmware. The MCM105 firmware addressed the skin tone issues by decreasing the DCI-P3 gamut coverage down to 74%. Although both SDR and HDR modes covers about 99.9% of sRGB gamut, and 94.5% sRGB color gamut in both firmware respectively, the monitor just looks less vibrant and dull even with calibration in HDR mode. I am excited to see how QD-OLED would perform in comparison, I have a S95B TV and I am really happy with its performance even in HDR mode.
@@Zhenren0ZHOU not so but being honest, I’ve got an oled tv, qd oled monitor and the lg was the closest to QD-oled. The asus was just horrible in hdr mode.
Sadly doesn’t look like it. The Samsung QD-OLED 32” 4K 240Hz based monitors should be in Q1, but lack that 480Hz mode and other things talked about in this video
Wow glossy from LG, very nice. That DFR would be amazing but with 1440p and 360hz. I dont need more then 1440p in games at 27 inch but 4k is nicer reading text outside gaming.
the GS at 1300 nits is pretty good imho, in terms of brightness and afaik has no abl too, I was eyeballing that candy but the new layout is very tempting i was always a bit salty about the text clarity of oleds even tho i never planed to use it as main working monitor. any news on the upcoming release of RGWB 1440 27?
QD OLED or bust for me tbh. That said, their potential push for 34/39 inch, 5120x2160 panels is interesting and I hope is met with some QD OLEDs at that size/spec.
Man, now I'm torn. I was looking forward to the new 45" 2160p ultrawide but I think the 39" would be the better buy. I was recently able to see the current 45" 1440p LG model on display at best buy and, I dunno, I don't know if I need that much real estate or would rather go with the pixel density. I think I will just have to wait and see if I can find a demo model of this new 39" 1440p when it comes out to see if it's big enough, as I have found that over time my 34" ultrawide does seem to get shorter from my perspective and as much as I love it I wish I had some more vertical space, but as I game on a laptop from time to time I also know the benefit of pixel density. this is exciting news, but DAMN YOU AND YOUR ROADMAP UPDATE!!!!!!! 😊. Seriously though, thank you for the update, you rock, happy holidays, may your motion be clear and your nits be bright, and to all a good night. That's catchy, use it at will if you wish
Haha maybe I will 😀 glad you enjoyed the video and found it interesting, even if it did make your buying decision more complicated! Let us know what you settle on and what you think!
Will they be using Micro Lens Array (MLA) tech? It's the deciding factor for me over QD-OLED, especially for that 39" 5120x2160 model I'm eyeing to replace my Alienware AW3423DW.
Would love a 27" 4K 240hz glossy panel OLED. Seems we will be waiting a while for that one, that's if it ever surfaces.
A 1440p costs 700-1000€ already...
It’s limited by cable, can’t do that at 4:4:4
@@philiplubduck6107 They're literally planning the one I mentioned but in 32"
27 is not enough
4k at 27" is a waste.
If the text clarity is good with the 32" 4K 240/480Hz model that sounds like a top candidate for a very versatile main monitor, I can't wait to see it released and catch some reviews. I hope that getting better support for arbitrary subpixel structures is on Microsoft new year's resolutions.
Thanks for the work @TFTCentral!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the feedback 😀
Yeah, that's the one I'm waiting for. Seems like a banger.
*480Hz but at 1080p in a 32" monitor. That should look horrendous.
@jeffersonmp4 why? You can get pixel perfect integer scaling from a 4k panel for 1080p (exactly 4 monitor pixels per res pixel) and so for gaming and multimedia, it should look very good. Lower res of course and less detail, but much higher frame rate/better motion clarity/ reduced end to end lag
68.84 PPI is why. @@tftcentral
Huge update!! Couldn’t be more thrilled for next year’s OLED monitor onslaught!
That last 45" 21:9 2160p is the endgame for me. Once I went Ultrawide, there's no going back, and having the benefits of 4k, OOoohh I can't wait.
Facts, I feel like they are making us wait for what we really want.
I've been asking for this exact monitor for 3 years.... 5120x2160 45" curved 1ms or better response time
@@faer075 I would really like either the 34-39" 5120x2160 240hz monitor. If they nuke my baby with a matte coat i will die if no one else makes the panel with gloss.
Weirdly, I'm mostly excited for the 5120x2160 OLED monitors. I know it seems niche, but 4K vertical + the benefits of ultrawide seems to be the best of both worlds, and it was always a shame that resolution wasn't explored further on LCD panels. I'm assuming 39" would be the sweet spot in terms of pixel density, but I'd have to see it at 45" before choosing.
Not niche, this is what all the companies should be targeting in 2024.
@@AgentMoler I agree, I think once more people actually get a chance to see one of these monitors in its glory, 3440x1440 will (finally) stop being the default.
I do think the biggest hang-up will be how hard it is to drive for gaming, but if nothing else, for productivity, content consumption, and sheer "wowness", it'll be hard to beat. Peak monitor IMO.
Agree on this, do however wonder what future GPU (and what it will cost) will be needed to drive such a beast for gaming. My UW 1440p is already taxing the 7900XTX and still nowhere near 240hz on most games.
it's only 123ppi at that frame size
The closest I think you can get is Dell UltraSharp U4025QW. Unfortunately it is not OLED or Mini LED and is extremely expensive.
Interesting update, and I like the idea of 39" to split the difference between 34/45. It's unfortunate that LG did a one and done (though I think they had two versions of the 38" panel) on the 3840x1600 resolution as this seems like it'd be perfect for the forthcoming 39"s.
Yeah I think 21:9 has just become more standardised than the 24:10 aspect of those panels. A bit like how 16:10 aspect was phased out and overtaken by 16:9
Maybe do a video explaining what the white sub pixel removal is all about. It’s due to the new blue phospher coming to the OLED industry in 2025. And it’s not just removing a white sub pixel, it allows LG to remove an entire panel layer of the monitor, allowing more brightness, more energy efficiency (and perhaps more clarity due to one less layer).
more than likely LG wont be losing layers. firstly the current models are made where one layer red, one layer blue, and one layer green are stacked. then subpixels wise, the have 3 color filters for each main color respectively (red/blue/green) and then one subpixel which is clear, aka white. removing that white subpixel they would still need the three layers.
samsung, went the route of 1 layer of blue oled. then using quantum dots to filter red/blue/green respectively. IF LG goes this route, i except there to be patent issues that will breach on samsungs designs. which will be bad for LG.
this to me means that LG will continue with their typical 3 layer OLED. red/green and a new blue layer. and then simply filtering red/blue/green with their own color filters (which are inferior to quantum dots anyway). so yeah it will be brighter thanks to the blue layer, but still not a single layer like samsung (unless they pay samsung to use their patent which means higher consumer prices for LG OLEDs so again, probably wont happen).
Edit: confirmed its a typical MLA panel from LG, meaning its their classic design. Nothing special/new.
That's why I'm going to wait for 2025 when that type of monitor comes out.
@@goblinphreak2132 But LG will need to use UDC's phosphorescent blue to switch to the red, green, blue pixel structure?
@@joecox9544 LG panel structure is the same they have always had 3 layers. One blue, one green, one red. Stacked. Together and all turned on equal white. Then they use their own color filters to make red/green/blue sub pixels respectively. Leaving the white subpixel filter clear for pure white.
Samsung panels are literally just one blue layer (not stacked r/g/b like LG), with quantum dots on top to make red/blue/green subpixels. Its why samsung was able to hop into the oled game so fast. Its a simpler technology. And since quantum dots are a samsung patent technology, their color filtering is superior. Samsung can stack extra layers of blue sheets to increase brightness, but its a balancing act. Technically since LG stacks 3 layers samsung could stack 3. Even first gen panels I couldn't find if samsung was using 1 layer of blue or 3 layers of blue....
All i want for Christmas is a glossy 32" oled with BFI. 😢
Well since Christmas 2024 is about a year away you might be ok with that. Time will tell tell 😀
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Yeah that 480hz 1440p 27 inch sounds amazing, lets pray it will also get a glossy version.
And some sort of BFI would be amazing. Or a g-sync ultimate module for their bfi implementation
Would there be any possibility for Asus or Alienware to use this 480hz 1440p 27" panel still in 2024?
@thecobainnn4244 yes based on the current panel mass production timescales expected. None have been announced yet but if things stay on track we could see monitors released using that panel around Sept/Oct time
@@tftcentral Great, thanks bro. I ask this because here in Brazil, LG doesn't release recently launched monitors, but Asus and Alienware are strong here. Last question: Due to competition from Oled's in 2024, what price would these panels come at? Could you make a video about this
Nice. Wait for 8k@120Hz quadruple dynamic resolution monitor begins (8k@120, 4k@240, 1440p@360, 1080p@480Hz - with 8k all these resolution can be integer scaled by a monitor). That would be a beast and reminiscent of options available on old CRTs ;)
Only younger viewers will live long enough to see such a monitor.
8k is pointless.
@@Skrenja I just wrote why it isn't. And ppi would be great too.
@@Skrenja not really, because I personally have seen plenty of 4K screens and I have also seen that 8k dell monitor from years ago and it is a night and day difference that monitor after so many years later still looks absolutely amazing
Cant wait for the 27" 4k option, for PC use i dont like larger format displays. I'd even be happy with a 24" 1440p oled option
I don't think 4k on 27 inch IS interesting but 1440p in 27 inch and 4k oled for 32inch with 240hz
Blurbusters indicated that we would get fast OLEDs with BFI in 2023, but that didn't materialize.
At this point, Mini-LED seems to be the way to go unless you have the money and space for separate productivity and gaming/media monitors.
If you specifically want strobing blur reduction /BFI, then yes, maybe. Although a lot of those are pretty poor really. It all depends on your usage and requirements though
@@tftcentral I don't know, to be honest! I want to eliminate motion blur once and for all and don't know if today's OLEDs at today's frame rates are enough to do that. I know BFI does, but it has never functioned well on LCDs.
Well oled certainly gets closer to eliminating blur. A 480Hz future oled should be amazing, the equivalent of a 720Hz LCD if it existed. I’d expect that to look overall better across the full screen and without any flicker artefacts than the vast majority of strobing LCD tbh
@@tftcentral that's good in theory, but I have a 7000XTX and there are many games you just can't drive at 400+ FPS, even with AI upscaling. Whereas BFI looks great at 144Hz, minus cross-talk.
I've been waiting years for a 32-in 4K flat OLED.
Definitely going for LG 32" 4K panel, Samsung have not impressed me with their near black gamma issues. Shame since I do like the extra punch in colors that comes with QD.
Do you have a good resource for showing the near black issue you’re describing?
I don't understand if qd oled is geniunely like more saturated (while being accurate?) thatn woled or if it's a case of, in vivid mode you can deep fry the colours even further than you can in woled. Cause I don't use my lg c3 in vivid mode as I use it as a monitor for creative work, I need an accurate view of what I'm working on. I suppose it's like studio audio monitors (speakers) with a flat frequency response with no EQ on them, meanwhile you can buy consumer speakers with a super cranked up EQ. Is this the saturation difference in qd oled vs woled or am I mistaken?
@definingslawek4731 it’s nothing to do with any vivid modes or inaccurate fake boosts of vividness. It’s because of the wider colour gamut of the QD layer, colours look more vivid and that in turn increases the perceived brightness of colours too. This only matters if you’re using the screen in its full wide gamut mode though of course. If you used sRGB emulation on both screens to work with SDR content for instance, they’d both have the same emulated colour space and would look the same
@@tftcentral I'm still confused though as when I switch from vivid on my c3 to my customised filmmaker mode for accuracy, the colours get less saturated and it gets less contrasty, which would suggest to me that vivid mode is essentially already too saturated.
Are you saying that qd oled when setup to be accurate would be more saturated than lg woled? (I'm imagining if I'm already not using the maximum saturation of my panel then the option to go even further isn't important to me.)
I do use my c3 in its native colour gamut.
@definingslawek4731 there’s a difference here between what vivid mode is doing and what is achieved through increased colour space coverage. Vivid mode is “faking” more saturation but does so by making the image and colours less accurate. If you increase the colour gamut/colour space of the panel then it can cover more colours potentially, but can do so while those colours are still accurate.
The difference would only really be visible if you were viewing content that was mastered in that wider colour space though. If you viewed SDR content then that’s mastered in the small sRGB colour space and so it won’t use all of the available gamut anyway. Likewise if the content is in DCI-P3, commonly used for HDR content then those WOLED panels can already cover that colour space and so the extra gamut of the QD panel wouldn’t be needed. If however the content was mastered in a wider gamut colour space like Rec2020 then the QD panel could cover more of that, and would therefore look more colourful and vivid, but importantly that would be “new” colours that the WOLED panel can’t cover, and would still be accurate.
Hoping for 4k240hz in 42 inch size. I have 55 inch c9, and immersion is unparalleled. I also bought 32 inch 4k 144hz monitor, and it's far less immersive compared to 55 incher, despite me sitting much closer. Size matters. Better than 27, definitely, but not as immersive as 55. But I can't sit close to 55 or I get screen door effect (pixels too large).
480hz 1440p Oled 🤯🤯🤯
Iv been looking at the current 27" LG oled as it's on sale with £250 off but with this news I think I'll just hold on to my budget 144hz save some money and see what's available this time next year. Wouldn't want to invest £750 into a monitor to find out the upgrade is just around the corner.
All that I want is improved text clarity, DP 2.0 (DP 1.4 with DSC would be crazy for a high-end monitor in 2024), a sturdy stand, only lightly curved ultrawide displays and maybe a good glossy implementation (I still remember my NEC 20WGX2 from 2005, it was IPS + glossy and the picture was very nice). Also, one more thing - the ability to lower max brightness in HDR mode. If I'm in a very dark room and sitting close to the monitor, 600+ nits of brightness literally hurts my eyes. And that is it!
Not looking likely but would love to see more 42" options. LG Ultragear seemed to have skipped that size themselves
42 inch is amazing for monitor / desktop use! It's not about fitting MORE on the screen and sitting at the same distance and moving your head around a lot (This is when it might feel too big) It's about putting the same amount of content on screen as you'd have with a 32 inch but just larger, meaning you can sit further away and your eyes can focus with less strain as they're not focusing on something as close.
And for gaming or watching a movie you can come in a little closer if you'd like some more immersion!
I would love to see a 16:9 panel smaller than 42" but larger than 32". 38" maybe?
45" 5K sounds like very great option, but please gloosy with very good reflection absorption.
If they actually make 27" 4K 240Hz OLED I'm gonna cry from happiness
Wow, the lineup for 2024 looks like it will offer what we've been waiting for for years now. Everything up to the present "compromizes" in one way or another (ultrawide, tv size, low brightness). These certainly appealed to some, but this next year will have something for everyone. Hopefully prices continue to drop as well.
But OLED will always suffer from not enough brightness, which is one of the main problems that I have with buying an OLED monitor (aside from the obvious burn in risk). That 1300 nits is only on a 3% window
5120x2160p FINALLY 😍
For general use, I'm keen to see the new Sub-pixel layout of the 27" 1440p 480hz model, and for 4K desktop media consumption the 32" at 140ppi would be deluxe!
The future seems OLED so I think we should expect text rendering to be fixed and mass production at the point all the issues are fixed and burn-in minimized for various use cases
Thanks, I am very sad to hear there is nothing happening to 42" panel. I was holding for better brightness and 240Hz, so i am skipping c3. Good they are tackling text clarity.
Yeah I hope the 42” 4K 240Hz reappears at some point too
Its Tv size not monitor size.
No one gonna make monitors for tiny minority like you.
27, 32 and ultrawide are perfect sizes for monitors.
yeah, it was the monitor I was most excited for, and would have bought day 1. and now it's gone....
What’s your opinion on 24” OLEDs? Is there 0 chance?
Why not just get the 27" OLED models? It's just 3 inches more lol
Not zero chance, but I think they are lower priority nowadays as that’s just not where the market volume is for this kind of display. I’d definitely encourage you to move up to 27” 1440p if you can though, it’s an amazing step up 😀
I'd love for one of these upcoming 4k 32" panels to also have hardware calibration as well. Currently there is a distinct lack of > 120Hz panels with accurate color reproduction for photography work. I like to play the odd game when I'm not working, and everything from BenQ, ProArt (apart from one model), Eizo, Dell Ultrasharp etc are stuck at 60Hz for some reason.
The LG 27GR95QE had hardware calibration (27" 1440p model) and so there's a good chance some of their future 32" OLED models could have the same. Expect more information soon on that with CES coming up
Waiting for the OLED version of the Samsung Neo G9 57" or a 2160 vertial 39" that I can use in a triple 4K monitor setup.
1440P is pretty good but once you go 4K its hard to go back and with the text clarity issues I feel like the higher PPI helps with that as well.
The main reason I'm holding off is for better text, so thank you. I had looked closely at getting a DWF as it was the perfect size for my space and the exact resolution I am wanting (40 or less and a 1440 in ultra wide), and with wraps coming in 2024 I am really glad I skipped getting it. Honestly though these manufacturers need to match the warranty Dell/Alienware are offering... These premium prices for only a 1 year warranty on something many will use for 5-10+ years is crazy low...
LG includes a two year burn in warranty on their OLED monitors.
@@andrewmorris3479 according to new outlets, though not according to LG unfortunately
@@SproutMaster Hmm, The Verge asked LG and confirmed it back in August but I haven’t heard of anyone needing to use it yet by going directly to LG.
2 year warranty is not really helpful if you plan to use it for 5+ years. I'd love to have a 5 year burn-in warranty so I can just use it without worrying, but it's very unlikely to materialize (or they'll add a limitation like "cannot be used as a computer monitor", "no more than 1 hour per day" or something else - like office chair makers set an 8 hour daily limit on longer warranty, or limit it to a year).
@@SproutMasterI asked LG about burn-in warranty for 27GR95QE-B here in Finland (EU) at the same time that I asked if the warranty covers a dead pixel that I have on the monitor. They did say in the email that the warranty covers both. I don’t know anyone that would have sent one because of burn-in for warranty repair/exchange though.
I really wish they would push 5k for 32in oled for the text clarity / rendering to be that much better. Other than that a flat, glossy, 32'' 4k 240hz monitor is the realistic dream for 2024 for me.
Thanks for the video. I personally can’t wait to get my hands on the Alienware AW2725DF in a couple of months! A 27” QHD QD-OLED, glossy flat panel at 360Hz. Does it get any better?!
How about 480Hz instead? 😀 (but yes I agree that will be an interesting gaming monitor in Q1)
@@tftcentral Haha true! 😊 I’m not sure the motion clarity will be that much different than my 27GR95QE but the glossy coating and 250 nits under an sRGB clamp most certainly will. 😍
Glossy would be good.. I guess we'll see what is announced at CES soon
indeed. We will have all the CES news and coverage soon :)
Man I wish they'd implement the new subpixel layout on the upcoming 27" 1440p in Q1 2024. This thing would instantly become a bestseller with no real weaknesses left. Guess we have to wait another year or two for that panel to happen :(
Also make it Glossy.
@@kithu1231 yeah sure thing. not much point in improving the subpixel layout to cripple it with that grainy ag coating afterwards
Still the general burn in issue is not entirely solved. Micro LED might be also a valid option in 2025.
@@teekanne15 what are you talking about, microLED won't hit mass market until 2030 at the earliest
@@teekanne15In theory, MAYBE. I don't expect we'll see any kind of consumer monitor using microLED until 2028 at the minimum. But that would indeed be the holy grail of monitors.
Would there be any possibility for Asus or Alienware to use this 480hz 1440p 27" panel still in 2024?
Another year with no 38" 1600p ultrawide 😤 cmon
the difference between 38 and 39 is literally nothing, just get the 39 model will be more than enough
The 34 inch 5k2k panel can’t come soon enough
I would sell my kidney to get that 480Hz 27inch 1440p monitor today.
The 32 inch 4K 240hz / 1080p 480hz monitor sounds very interesting but I think that 32 inches is simply too large in most excited for the 1440p 480hz monitor.
Lucky Goldstar and Samsung have come a long way since the days of cheap VCRs. I use a 42" C2 daily, with an old 42" VA (Wasabi Mango) to one side. Text is easier to read on the VA, but the C2 is visually stunning with HDR content. I look forward to even better in the future.
4k 240hz i guess but with QD-OLED, would it be possible to add a 1080p 480hz mode late with software update, or even 1440p 480hz?
Not entirely sure if this would be possible, I expect it's more related to the hardware and panel tbh
The "last end game monitor" before microLED? 2024 monitor better last me at least 7 years!
I wish they bring back black light strobing for oleds.
me too
Yeah, defo. I love it on my LCD. I think it's a brightness issue. OLEDs simply have less to spare for the sacrifice. I could be wrong though and its just a trend.
We all just want the 32 inch version to be glossy
Thankfully the AW3225QF and PG32UCDM are glossy featuring a 31.5” 4K QD-OLED panel at 240Hz.
@@andrewmorris3479 I dont like the lack of polarizer on qd-oleds which raises black level so badly
@@sindev3320 Every OLED monitor should be used in a light controlled room in my opinion.
32 inch - ✅
4K ✅
240hz (/480hz!?) ✅
New pixel layout ✅
As long as LG don't charge a gazillion pounds, I reckon this is gonna be the breakout OLED monitor this year.
With their shitt matte panel it wont.
I will get whichever 27” - 32” 4K OLED has a glossy finish. PC monitors are finally getting good
Death, taxes, monitor manufacturers refusing to bless us with 3840x1600 ultrawide OLED panels. I'm actually very happy running my 42" C2 in a mixed 4K / 1600p 21:9 mode, but it's still funny how both LG and Samsung decided to skip 1600p and go straight to 2160p ultrawide.
32" 4K OLED is where it's at for me. At least that's the upgrade path that would make the most sense. I went from standard 1440p to 3440x1440 with the launch of the AW3418DW some years ago. With the majority of content still being 16:9, it doesn't make sense to go for an ultrawide OLED. Burn-in seems to be an issue when viewing standard 16:9 content on an UW display, something to keep in mind. Everything else can be mitigated. Hiding taskbars, toning down brightness, setting the monitor to sleep after a certain amount of time, etc.
That 45 inch 4k will go nicely with the 5090 expected to be released at the same time.
I'm most excited about the 27" 4k option. Still a ways to go unfortunately...
Same
Im looking forward for the 27" 2k 480hz
But the pricing will be insane🫠
any predictions for the price?
@@verschleppt I predict $1199 at the most for the 1440p 480hz model
@@FrowningTaco Are there other manufacturers or is all the competition buying the pansels from LG?
@verschleppt there’s only LG Display who produce all the WOLED panels. Then Samsung Display who produce competing QD OLED panels.
I'd pick lower prices over more specs. The biggest issue (aside from price) with OLEDs is burn in, especialy for people that do office work as well as gaming/films. If 1440p 144hz 27inch OLEDS were £300, burn in wouldn't be such an issue as replacing it every 3/4 years would be ok. However they tend to be at least double that, often three times, which means it a lot of money. I'm still using LCDs from 8 years ago.
It will be a while before they get that low but there’s news of some lower spec versions of some of their existing panels in this video which should help drive pricing down over time
It surprises me how many people still worry about burn in. I have a b6, c9, CX and g2. I’ve been using the CX as a pc monitor for over two years and no burn in. I feel if you smart and mix content burn in is not an issue.
@@hugohserrano You just intimated as to why many people still worry about burn in: you have to worry about how you use your monitor, so yes, you have to use it with care to avoid burn in, even if it would take long-term to develop (3-4+ years).
The mass market does not want to baby their displays, so a technology that needs babying is not ready or suitable for the mass market.
If you have the means to use multiple displays (oled for media, lcd for work/browsing/etc., then great, but many people are not in such a position, and they can only use 1 monitor, so of course OLED burn-in chances is high on the list of considerations.
so true
@@edfort5704I don't worry about how I use my monitor. Still no burn in lol.
Do you know if the new Monitors will be available with Display port 2.1? Would makes sense with a 4K / 32” Panel.
Great Video, love ur content for Monitor enthusiasts!
Extremely unlikely. It's not needed for 4K 240Hz as you can achieve that fine with DP 1.4 + DSC, and DP 2.1 isn't really mature enough yet. got some content coming on that topic soon hopefully...
@@tftcentral I would be really interested in a video about that topic. Anyways, I’m stoked for the next year, seems like it could be a good one for monitors. I’m looking forward to your content about these upcoming monitors!
Happy New year! Exciting times ahead for monitors.
Any word on if they are overcoming the brightness flicker associated with G-Sync?
As a PC gamer, OLED is phenomenal. It always bugged me seeing backlight bleed and obviously OLED doesn't have that. That being said, it can be very distracting having brightness flicker is dark scenes. As far as I've found, this is it to do with the variability of the FPS and having G-Sync enabled. Those who are a little in the know, will understand how useful G-Sync is, I'm not willing to disable it just to have a flicker free existence.
Not one reviewer ever mentions this sadly enough. I'd love to see resolved completely. Love the useful content though.
I just turned gsync off and cant really see any tearing while gaming.
Holy shit finally my prayers have been answered with the 45 and 39" 5120x2160 OLED panels! I will definitely upgrade from my LG 38" ultrawide then.
Damn I’d kill to have that 4K 240hz right now. I really want to upgrade now but it seems foolish. I guess I wait till late 2024
All these new specs are exciting, but if they’re matte, it’s an immediate pass for me and so many other people. I would buy the 27” 240Hz glossy on day one. Perfect for competitive fps games. That monitor alongside a qd-oled ultrawide sounds like the ultimate dual monitor setup.
agreed, i want the 39 inch but i refuse to have matte on an oled. i have the current 27 matte and aw 34 glossy and glossy i way better.
Alienware AW2725DF was made for you! It’ll be available in a few months.
But have you tried it? Doesn't it look like a mirror?
@@Shini1984 It’ll have a similar finish to the Samsung G95SC. It’s not bad if you can control the ambient lightning in the room.
Reflective coating isn't perfect for competitive fps games unless you're in a dark room, and then the overall light level is going to affect your alertness level lowering your performance.
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@taipeitaiwan10 awesome to hear! Glad to have helped over all these years. That was a cracking monitor too
@@tftcentral oohh and that primary became an Asus PG279Q....after your review. Love it still! Let's go!
Another great screen😎
I was on a 32" 2560x1440 monitor, and loved it. I decided to try the Alienware 34 OLED. It's alright, but I'd still prefer 32". I wish they would make a 32" 2560 oled panel 😢. My 4080 definitely can't do 4k 144hz, unfortunately.
Why it can't get the 4k 144hrz?
@@Heliux1234k is still extremely hard to run, even on a 4090. You can hit the frames, but you need to turn down settings a lot. I don't see 4k high refresh being an actual thing for at least 2 more generation of cards. But by then game engines might be even more advanced and we'll be in the same boat.
I just want a new 3840x1600 panel! That is the best resolution!
If Lg improves text clarity, I'll definitely buy 39 or 45 WOLED. The only concern is the curve. 800R is too aggressive for 39 or 34 monitors. It should be around 1800R. Other than that, unless mini LED makes comeback, new OLED is the future monitors we all have been waiting for.
I’m hopeful some manufacturers will use the panels in a bendable format like Corsair did for their 45” Xeneon Flex. That would be great
@@tftcentralPropably will be something like Xeneon Flex 2
Sigh, need to wait until at least 2025 for a proper RGB vertical stripe layout. At least it's coming!
27 inch 4k is the real endgame
The way for ultrawide 34"/39" 4k - 240hrz is too long (2025), but I want to know what have to say others top brands in market.
We'll see it soon...hope so.
P.D: Thanks for great video and good information. 👍
Great content as usual. Keep up the good work. Subscribed.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? 5120X2160???? that's been my dream display for years 🤩 and an oled!
absolutely loved this video and all the info, very informative! huge fan of oled displayed and lg displays in general with a 42" C2 as my pc display, it's good to see oled panels being offered in so many sizes now and i'm ready for next gen oled panels!
btw gloss is boss! before getting a CX in 2020 i was seriously concerned with a gloss panel but once i saw it i never wanted a matt panel again!
So, next year it will be qd-oled 4k 240hz vs woled 4k 240hz battle. My wallet is damn ready for the winner!
Really disappointing to see how little effort these monitor manufacturers are putting into lower panel sizes at normal aspect ratios. I really want a 4k panel preferably under 27in, but it'll be 2 years before they even produce a 27in 4k and there is absolutely nothing slated for 24/25in sizes.
The obsession with larger monitors really needs to stop, some people don't want to dedicate the desk real estate to have the necessary viewing distance for these larger panels, and 27in 1440p isn't that great in terms of pixel density.
It is more than enough, no one wants a 24" model anymore, sorry bud. It's already a niche at this point
@@HUSTLEONLY-kz5bf Nobody wants 24in any more because nobody has made good 24-25in panels (aside from hyper niche eSports TN stuff) for the last decade and because monitor manufacturers have made panel size a dick measuring contest.
Why would you want a 24 monitor in 2023? Anything under 32 inch is just pointless at this point.
thx very much for the video!
Our pleasure!
Astonishing they are going with 45" ultrawide first, I'd have thought the 34 or 39 would have been more popular.
I want 3440*1600 resolution or something like… sigh( 21:9 is really lacking height, and 4k is too gpu demanding, not to mention this planned 5k craziness
I have a question - will we get such a monitor with built in speakers?
Exciting year for gaming oled.
first time here but I've been in the site maybe since 2005-2007. anyways, this channel should also cover TVs or TV panels too which are usually cheaper than monitors for the size and features.
Been waiting for a nice glossy and also nice and bright OLED.
Moving to the 57" Neo G9 as my current main monitor from a 34" UW, OLED is my next upgrade. So it needs to be the OLED version of the 57" G9 or I might be up for the 39" 4K 21:9 that is releasing Q1 of 2025 as that is the same size as the 57" just in 21:9 and that will let me add some side monitors to it in a multi-monitor config.
Moving from 1440P to 4K, 4K is the only way now, and the greater pixel density will directly help the text clarity issues with OLED.
That 27” QHD coming in late 2024 sounds like the one. 480hz, text issue fixed, higher brightness. What could go wrong? …. Oh let’s slap a heavy matte coating on it!! I jest but if they end up doing this just kill me.
Am the only one wanting a 24” glossy OLED?
The manufacturer to fix OLED monitors vertical banding on 5-15% gray background will get my money. Strange my LG 55 CX has perfect uniformity near black, strange to see the monitors struggle with it.
Thanks for the update, can't wait for the glossy options!
Same here, matte is just atrocious.
but you have to wait.
Really excited for the 39-45 inch 5000+x2100 240hz widescreens to replace my 3840x1600 160-170hz widescreen. But i would have like to see them in q1-q2 this year but yeah its probably because the 50 series of nvidia would then adopt DP2.1 by then. (Although AMD already has them) but the GPU also have to be capable tho maxed out the bandwidth of the interface
How many inches is your monitor?
@@Proaz15 38 inch
Looking forward to that new 45.
You’ve absolutely thrown me - I was going to buy a G8, but the idea of fuzzy text is a deal breaker. Now I’m struggling to find a high end 32-34” that’s good for both work and gaming. Does that mean waiting until LG brings out their revised pixel structure?
The G8 is a gen 1 QD OLED panel and Samsung made some decent improvements for text clarity for gen 2, so I’d be inclined to wait for a second gen panel of that size (should be some this year), or perhaps hang on to see how LG Displays updates pan out too
Excited to see how Samsung qd-oled monitor's will turn out!
27" 1440 480hz. That would be my upgrade for esports. Hope it has a 25" mode.
I so desperately want the 39" 5120x2160 monitor. Enough resolution for work while being perfect for gaming. And not other monitor required, cause everything fits within one.
(I currently have a 5120x2160 IPS 72Hz Monitor at work, which is cool, but just for work)
Almost there. Just need that new pixel layout with a glossy coating 1440p 27inch
As someone that can't stand ultrawide and extrawide, seeing some major improvements to the 27" monitors is very welcome. In theory it means the old models will come down in price as well!
It's a niche that serves a purpose, but it's grossly overrated.
I have a super ultra rides for about six years now, and for me, it’s difficult to go back to a 27 inch or something like that the fact that they can display multiple pieces of info on a single screen is such a timesaver and just overall very handy to have. Maybe I will buy it, 32 inch 4K monitor for gaming and desktop usage, and then use my current monitor as some sort of information screen
I want a 45" 21:9 500Hz 5120x2160 800R (ideally a flex panel) OLED with G-Sync, and if they can keep it under $2,500 💯% I WILL BUY IT!!! 👍😎👌
I think the elephant in the room for these WOLED panels is whether or not there are any improvements in color performance of these WOLED panels. Monitors like the ASUS PG27AQDM has horrendous color reproduction issues in HDR mode. It could only achieve 89% DCI-P3 coverage in HDR mode while having massive skin tone issues with the MCM104 firmware. The MCM105 firmware addressed the skin tone issues by decreasing the DCI-P3 gamut coverage down to 74%. Although both SDR and HDR modes covers about 99.9% of sRGB gamut, and 94.5% sRGB color gamut in both firmware respectively, the monitor just looks less vibrant and dull even with calibration in HDR mode. I am excited to see how QD-OLED would perform in comparison, I have a S95B TV and I am really happy with its performance even in HDR mode.
The reason i switched to the LG27GR95QE, was brighter in hdr, better colour. Nothing like the asus
This was already fixed in a fw update a while ago. See monitors unboxed. I have the asus and it's much improved from launch.
@@bledarrm7976 do you have a colorimeter and if so what are you readings on the LG monitor?
@@R3dox66 what was already fixed?
@@Zhenren0ZHOU not so but being honest, I’ve got an oled tv, qd oled monitor and the lg was the closest to QD-oled. The asus was just horrible in hdr mode.
aw that 31.5'' 4k @ 240hz lg / 480hz 1080p mode I was hoping was coming out in Q1 2024
Sadly doesn’t look like it. The Samsung QD-OLED 32” 4K 240Hz based monitors should be in Q1, but lack that 480Hz mode and other things talked about in this video
Nice video, i hope they will find a solution to oled burn in.
Wow glossy from LG, very nice. That DFR would be amazing but with 1440p and 360hz. I dont need more then 1440p in games at 27 inch but 4k is nicer reading text outside gaming.
But what about 1440p and 480hz 🤔
the GS at 1300 nits is pretty good imho, in terms of brightness and afaik has no abl too, I was eyeballing that candy but the new layout is very tempting i was always a bit salty about the text clarity of oleds even tho i never planed to use it as main working monitor. any news on the upcoming release of RGWB 1440 27?
QD OLED or bust for me tbh.
That said, their potential push for 34/39 inch, 5120x2160 panels is interesting and I hope is met with some QD OLEDs at that size/spec.
Man, now I'm torn. I was looking forward to the new 45" 2160p ultrawide but I think the 39" would be the better buy. I was recently able to see the current 45" 1440p LG model on display at best buy and, I dunno, I don't know if I need that much real estate or would rather go with the pixel density. I think I will just have to wait and see if I can find a demo model of this new 39" 1440p when it comes out to see if it's big enough, as I have found that over time my 34" ultrawide does seem to get shorter from my perspective and as much as I love it I wish I had some more vertical space, but as I game on a laptop from time to time I also know the benefit of pixel density. this is exciting news, but DAMN YOU AND YOUR ROADMAP UPDATE!!!!!!! 😊. Seriously though, thank you for the update, you rock, happy holidays, may your motion be clear and your nits be bright, and to all a good night. That's catchy, use it at will if you wish
Haha maybe I will 😀 glad you enjoyed the video and found it interesting, even if it did make your buying decision more complicated! Let us know what you settle on and what you think!
The PPI could still suck on the 39 inch but that size is ideal for my desk. These 49+ inch behemoths don’t make sense for most people
Talking about the 5120x2160 monitors the PPI on the 39" should be about 134 same as a 32" 4k .the PPI on the 45" should be close to a 27" 1440p .
@@tonydalimataHmm even is 45 inch should be still higher PPI than 34" 3440x1440
These new Panels from LG are coming late compared to Samsung.
What about Samsung's QD-OLED roadmap?
Will they be using Micro Lens Array (MLA) tech? It's the deciding factor for me over QD-OLED, especially for that 39" 5120x2160 model I'm eyeing to replace my Alienware AW3423DW.
Yes that’s mentioned in the video too. MLA is one of the baseline features of all these panels including the current 27” and 45” options
So does it mean that RGWB layout will finally produce a clear text or it still has issues being handled properly?
remains to be seen, but it's expected to help, and along with the increased pixel density on the 4K panels it should be very good
i just bought the asus 27in oled do you think i should return it and wait for these newer oleds?
Very hard to answer. They’ll be a lot more expensive I’m sure. Depends what you need