European sirens in New York City?! NEW BILL
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Like Bill Bailey said: "European sirens are much more layed back; It a sort of says "yeah, there is an emergency, but let's enjoy the ride" "
A new bill introduced in New York City Council would require sirens to adopt the European two-toned model. The distinctive wail and yelp sirens might soon replaced by the softer, two-tone "hi-lo" siren. In areas nearby stations and hospitals the sirens can make a real noise problem and there are "battles" to keep stations out of areas.
Mount Sinai received numerous comlpaints concerning their ambulances, they decided to make the sirens less shrill but maintain their effectiveness. Calling the manufacturers, more siren tones were able by flipping a switch at the back of the siren. The made a trial runwith 4 units back in 2017 and the crews reported that people on the streets were just as responsive to the new sirens, so Mount SInai switched the sirens on the entire fleet of ambulances.
A professor of environmental health sciences at the University of Michigan, said that loud sirens can cause serious health problems like stress, anxiety and even cardiovascular disease. People likely find two-tone sirens more pleasing because they spread sound frequency across a longer time period than other sirens.
A spokesman for Mayor Bill de Blasio said the mayor’s office was considering the two-tone siren legislation.
He said: “Our city has always been ahead of the curve on transitioning our sirens to models that better protect New Yorkers’ hearing. This is a quality-of-life issue we take very seriously.”
At minute 2:00 to the end the clips of NYC emergency vehicles have the sound track from German emergency response clips. I simply replaced the original sound track. Seems like I have to mention it because some people misunderstood it as if they were already using these hi-lo sirens. It's only a mind game at 2:00 onwards.
European siren ... it's a term which is often used for the alternating hi-lo sirens in this video, but please keep in mind: there are only very few countries in Europe where only hi-lo sirens are legal like e.g. Germany and Austria. Living in Germany, and having only few videos from other European countries where hi-lo sirens are used (e.g. Netherlands, Poland, Austria) I face the issue that some of them used the exact same sirens which are used on the German emergency vehicles, and most others I filmed responded with emergency lights only; With maybe only 1 or 2 EVs left from abroad using other sirens I decided to only use sirens form German emergency vehicles in this video.
In most countries around Europe they use a mix of pretty much any wail/yelp and hi-lo siren, well except for some Japanese ones. But in fact any siren which is used in the USA is used somewhere in Europe as well, including special types like the Rumbler or the Federal Signal Q. Please don't think that all of Europe would only have hi-lo sirens
Maybe all emergency vehicles in NYC will have hi-lo sirens in the future. I guess most would simply use the existing hi-lo mode of their siren module. To be honest, I'm not really a fan of the hi-lo mode of American sirens because they have hardly any tremolo tuning and thus seem a bit too soft and clear. Maybe some would, but I don't believe it at the moment, invest a bit more money and purchase e.g. a set of martin horns for the pneumatic, air powered version of a hi-lo siren which is more effective than the electronic ones
"the crews reported that people on the streets were just as responsive to the new sirens..." Meaning that the drivers ignored them just as much as the traditional siren tones.
U still dont know tht the sirens are just synced. It ain't a real ting
@@zlove_f1r3x28 No mt Saini actually did change theirs recently.
That hi-lo siren is much more pleasant, and they HAVE already switched to it in NYC, at least in Midtown West. Hearing the old wailling version all the time, causes people anxiety, and cuts down on people's sense of wholesomeness and their productivity. Everyone can still tell the hi-lo is a siren and they're supposed to know it's a law to try to pull over to let the emergency vehicle get by. If you have a driver's license the "Rules of the Road", which you must know to pass your driver's test, says you must try to pull over, to leave room for any emergency vehicle using flashing lights and/or sirens to get by. Any pedestrians or vehicles who do not try to do so, should be at least fined, and that law should be announced repeatedly on local news and enforced, instead of using sirens to startle people. Patients often ask ambulance drivers to shut off the old type wailing siren, as it's very blood pressure raising and distressing.
Well at least they don't bother residents. Cause it's a nightmare to have the classical American sirens pass your house every 10 mins.
I laughed to hard at this
In Germany we call it: *Tatütata!*
Americans can learn a lot from us
And sometimes we call it in german: Zuuu spääät zuuu spääät zuuu spääät..!😂😂😂
Oder auch: was ist den jz schon wieder passiert
Oder auch "Wat wolln die Bullen dan jez" xd
Scheiße was pasirt?
My mother used to drive an ambulance in the 80s in the Los Angeles area. She said that her ambulances had the high-low European sirens AND the normal American style sirens. She told me that the European tones were great for clearing intersections because they sounded so different, and people would respond to them better. Her method was to use the American style sirens most of the time, but she would switch to the high-lows when approaching an intersection. She always said that worked pretty well.
I hate the American sirens. The European ones are so much better.
@@culdeestudios1725 HEEEEE HOOOOOO HEEEEEE HOOOOOO HEEEEEE HOOOOOO
My to we used it alot on pch
If I do remember correctly, a lot of fire trucks and ambulances in LA back in the 80s-90s were fitted with hilo horns and mechinal sirens. There are still some trucks in service using this! Just look up "LAFD Hilo airhorn" on CZcams.
@@culdeestudios1725 No they aren't
That is the single most un-american thing I have ever heard.
Also one of the most annoying
That's the liberal city of NY for ya.
Im disappointed America...
I’m glad I don’t live in nyc
@@thesexypumpkin2040 That's the point of these sirens. They *want* to be annoying to grab your attention
Meanwhile, the french city I live in is experimenting american-type sirens lol
With the Volkswagen E Golf and the SAMU 94
@@r94_girahim_jazzemo75 Weeeeell I don't live in Paris hehe, so i'll take your word for it
England switched to wail sirens some time ago.
Nope
France will not use american sirens
And never will
Only belgium, poland, czech republic, slovenia, slovakia, lithuania, latvia, belarus, croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro, Belgium, Norway, Iceland, Kosovo, Russia, United Kingdom, and Ireland use wail
And it's true
Firetrucks and ambulances constantly pass my Dad's apartment complex; only at ONE time did I hear this type of siren!
I remember you are you the won who destroys toys
@@engine12co14 oh yeah
Hey there Jaxen!
I would love to live in your dads apartment. Lol
I only like the martin horns.
Hilarious to hear German sirens and seeing a US police car instead 😂
Its disgusting and unAmerican
This comment made me die in laughter
Is it the sirens......or is it the drivers? In Europe we automatically move aside as it is a strict law.....in the US, the drivers generally like to finish their telephone conversations/lunch, before they decide to react.
The idea was to cut down on noise pollution. Either way people won't react.
Ever wonder why our engines bumpers stick out so far😂😂
Drivers, drivers will ignore these new sirens even more.
@Carmelo Sanchez Why yield when all you hear is some asshole sitting on the horn?
Maybe THAT is the problem? Firetrucks use the horn way too much
You've very big Trucks, do you really need the whole equipment in the most common emergencies? I
It is surely strange when you are walking through New York as a German tourist and suddenly hear German sirens.
also when you hear the police siren and there it might be a fire truck. they using them wrong!!
It doesn’t seem like nyc with those sirens
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Juan J. Guzman yes
They wouldn't use German sirens specifically... More likely american-style Hi-Lo. But listen to the code 3 z3 Hi-Lo. Or the whelen Hi-Lo. Or the soft one they use in England. Sounds great too right?
Needs more power call
Central Intelligence Agency no the real question is why did you steal my dad?
That only sounds good in a European city...
Yes, it doesn't fit in the US at all
Florjan Brudar It’s called evolution. You’re like people that used to say « Internet is just a bad idea »
True
@@IStMl HEY! Don't talk to me like that!
@@IStMl Please delete your comment!
0:55 it’s a nuclear attack
New York City won’t be New York City without the yelp and wail edit: and Q
Kim Jong un That’s what I was saying on another video.
Agreed 100%
Yup
Facts dude. Where will the rumbler be then?
My favorite is the federal sign touchmaster delta siren. Once used widely in police interceptors and ambulances, and cycles between wail, yelp, warble, and a hi-lo that sounds akin to a telephone ring. It goes Weeeeee uuuuuuuuuuu, we u we u we we u we u, wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa, riiiing riiiing riiing riiing.
Really hope this doesn't happen..Love the EQ sirens in NYC, aswell as the "siren DJ" wailers.
Just won't sound right
It sounds odd, I agree, but it would be interesting as well. I can't really imagine them really using German hi-lo sirens, but I guess American hi-lo sirens MIGHT happen.
To quote you from another video "Can't beat a gold old two tone!" ;)Btw: being a siren DJ works with different modes of a hi-lo siren as well
@@EnjoyFirefighting Two tones sound great on British and other European fire trucks, but it just (in my opinion) wouldn't sound right to have a huge US rig with a European siren.
On a EU fire Truck, you can't beat a two tone is what I should have said
@@dragonemergencyvideos I watched several videos of American apparatus with hi-lo sirens, also some with specificly European types of the hi-lo siren. It was fun to see and hear them like that. Same with the units themselves: although 98% of all ALS Emergency Ambulances in Germany are based on a Sprinter, I really loved filming the Sprinter in NYC
In my opinion, the best solution would be a combination of both, to give them the option to choose from the one, the other or both sirens at once.
@@EnjoyFirefighting In former German Democratic Republic they used as well wail and yelp like signals on rescue, fire and Police, often with two tone signals. Two tone signals produced by compressed air fanfare, not sound generator
I agree that Q's sound great and DJing is fun. But the average person doesn't care. They just want the emergency vehicle to get where it needs to go without being deafened.
Option B: Require that anyone applying for a driver’s license in New York state first learn how to get out of the way when they hear a siren. There wouldn’t be a noise problem if emergency vehicles weren’t sitting in traffic, waiting for someone to move.
they need blue lights instead white/yellow and red.. cuz white/yellow and red is normal vehicle signal color.. they need something special like blue lights so they could be seen far away
Deutsches Presslufthorn ist eh das beste 😂
@christian g Gefaked
Wie vieles Amerikaner sich hier aufregen das unsere Sirene scheiße ist 😂
No it isn’t it sucks
Bald noch komplett blaue LEDs und die FDNY heißt dann BF New York hahahah.
Niklas 20115 obwohl es deren Sirene ist.. Diese rumgeheule Erträgt doch kein Schwein... Wie ne sterbende katze...
4:32 that was the most humiliating siren I’ve ever heard
cheap, simple, old but for certain tasks still great to use
I really do prefer American siren, it means business and sounds like a real emergency.
@Alexandriah and other sirens don't sound like a real emergency then? What's the opposite? Fake emergency? or not emergency?
@@EnjoyFirefighting why do you speak like this? I never said others are fake. You are interpreting my words wrong and taking things out of context. American sirens really do sound more urgent. Plus I am not used to listening to European sirens.
@@EnjoyFirefighting instead of thinking the opposite, or criticizing me, try to understand what I am actually speaking here. Sirens all sound different in different countries, I was not putting you down (you had interpreted my words wrongly) when I said I prefer American coz I live here and US sirens are loud and they blast horns to convey that urgency. European ones, uses the rapid blipping/ , and this is a different type sound used (it too conveys urgency but sounds far different from what I am used to hearing). Instead of jumping to conclusion of my words and sarcastically criticizing me, I kindly ask you to refrain, that is not nice. Not everyone is trying to argue with you. Vielen Danke.
Nice job editing it to make the NYC Emergency Vehicle sound like they actually have German Sirens!
Yeah
I work for the German police and got relatives in NY, so I know both pretty well. This video is great and I'd actually support having German sirens in New York. We've been experimenting with yelp sirens for a short time, but to no avail. The heavy traffic in NY is a serious problem and seeing fire trucks and ambulances constantly using their air horn is a pretty good reason to reconsider the tone of their sirens.
It sound like the siren is running on low battery.
You're American, right? You're insulting the European sirens!!
812hockey 😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣
Florjan Brudar Our superior American sirens will beat your trumpet sirens any day
When someone shoots up your police car in GTA.
@@kangarooairsoft4376 Nothing about America is superior.
1:49 sounds like an *ice-cream* truck
Uhhhh....i highly disagree
...What a way to insult European sirens... good job *clear sarcasm*
Nancy Hernandez, I highly agree with Andi
Lmao how do you even take European sirens seriously? This comment has been made *WOOWOOOWOOWOOWOOWOOOWOO* gang
That’s one creepy ass ice-cream truck then
Was für ne heiden Arbeit. Respekt für diesen toll Einfall. Der Ton passt perfekt. Witziges Video, macht Spaß anzusehen!
Jim Cutter bin auch begeistert wie gut die ton samples zu den Videos passen!
es ist wirklich bemerkenswert wie schön dieses Video ist, einfach wunderbar!
@Gappie Al Kebabi what's your problem? Seriously?
@@EnjoyFirefighting what did this guy say?
@@justanormalbird8302 not sure, either he or I deleated the comment
I'm moving out of Manhattan if hear these sirens passing my house
I'm moving there just to join the fdny and I dont need this
It's not about the siren nuts like us... It's about the majority of people that shouldn't be deafened or stressed because the sirens are too crazy
Finn K then why would you move to a city like Manhattan where there’s so much noise
Yep
Same I don’t like the new ones they just don’t Mach the truck
Hearing the euro sirens on American emergency vehicles is pretty cool. I’ve seen only one motorcycle police here where I live with a euro siren.
Now there are European emergency vehicles with American sirens, (U.K.) so why not enjoy a little juxtaposition?
I remember many years ago FDNY tried “lime-green” fire trucks. Guess how that worked out......
the US Army Fire & Emergency Services also tried American apparatus at their German USAG bases, didn't work out that well either; But instead of taking the all-American apparatus back home, they rather chose to take a half-American half-American apparatus to the USA.
Of course not every option tried once is successfull, like the higher reaching German Magirus ladders used by the FDNY; But others are more successfull, like the Sprinter or Ducato being used in the USA. The other way around American style vans and pickups got replaced by vans and actual trucks in most places around Europe
@@EnjoyFirefighting I once saw American-style fire engines at one of USA's Japan bases I think
Even the Newark fire department had "lime-green" fire trucks
I'm British and almost all UK emergency vehicles have the screaming sirens. I much prefer the 2 tone horn/ hi lo sound, as I believe is usually found in France, Germany and the Netherlands. The scream is painful on the ears, and stress inducing. Way before the coronavirus started, you'd see a lot of ambulances out and about- a nation of ill people? The traditional mechanical sirens on American fire engines have a deeper tone and are less excruciating. I believe it is because the scream is stress inducing, that they're introducing 2 tone horns, or hi- los, in New York.
In France, they say : "hooold on, hoooold on, hoooold on" :D
But the ambulance says : "you're screwed, you're screwed, you're screwed"
(original : firetrucks "tiens-bon" and ambulance "t'es foutu")
It may happen in New York but isnt going to become a huge thing since U.S. drivers dont know how to yeild
cho cho man the one time I’m proud of shitty drivers
It's just really in the city that no one really cares but themselves. Once out of the city people will move more often.
@@1933FORDV8 thats were your wrong my town has had to scrap 2 firetrucks within the last 3 yrs because of bad drivers and were basically surronded by corn fields
@@blaynriley7804 doesn't make me wrong at all .
yeah yeah
Dual tones are cool (in Brazil, fire departments usually use air dual tones, and they work very well) but it's an unnecessary change to NYC in my opinion.
Those air dual tones are in chile too. BUT THE WEIRD PART IS THAT THEY ARE ON AMERICAN FIRE TRUCKS LIKE SPARTANS AND EVERYTHING
in Chile they use both kinds of sirens on both kinds of trucks
@@EnjoyFirefighting I'm from there and I can confirm!
(And European HiLos are louder than Q2Bs.)
No they need european firetrucks so they can actually get somewhere in time
@Ben Sanspiro just too big. I mean look at some NYC streets for example they can't get through often. German Trucks at least may not carry as much water, but they carry more equipment and crew and are more compact.
Ben Sanspiro and still looks and are stoneage compare to European (fire)trucks
@Ben Sanspiro I guess the real issue is simply the size of American fire apparatus. Some of them are oversized concerning the amount of equipment on board
@@ccalmanii5225 That's not true at all German truck carry less equipment, less crew and less water.
@@user-ro5cp1ro4u yes, they may not carry as much water, but I'm pretty sure the standard type of vehicles here carries more technical equipment and just as much crew as American ones
There are only a couple of things that make American driving American.
1. The slowpoke
2. The double yellow lines
And 3. The wail, yelp, and Q sirens
DON'T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US PLEASE
wail and yelp are known all across the world and they aren't even originally from the USA ^^
Police Scotland use wail and yelp, Idk about England or wales but it isn’t an American thing nor was it made in America.
@@EnjoyFirefightingThe Philippines uses wail and yelp sirens too almost identical to the NYC ones.
Sounds creepy for an ambulance 1:54 and German sirens dont fit with those cars at all its wierd
weill, they fit in so many other places; Of course it would be weird to hear them in NYC as well, but in general it wouldn't be sth new to see an American truck with a German siren
@Joshua Post why do you like that one better?
As someone who is used to German sirens, this one doesnt actually sound similar to those (less shrill). Btw the sound makes me also slighty uncomfortable.
This one is not a german one
@@marvinluene No shit Nobody said its a german siren ffs
hi/lo is already included in most electronic sirens, always had the ability to switch between yelp, hi/lo and regular siren
We have horrible drivers here in the states, high lows would never get the respect that our high pitch sirens have now. Bad idea in my opinion.
David Lopez if anything people just may straight up refuse to yield. That’s what I would do if I were hearing hi-lows behind me as opposed to a blaring yelp, in which case I would move to the side
I strongly agree with ya i love sitting un yhe rescue truck watching people just move away from us as we blast,the Q
Just in cities.
@@dylan-re6rz Oh, so you would let people die because you do not like the siren sound?
Sounds reasonable...
Daniel Daniel well arent americans in general not willing to move thier asses out of the way?
Pretty good job on finding sirens closely matching. Hats of for that. Funny thing is that the Firetruck goes right to left and the sound does go left to right :) :P
Thanks, I tried my best without investing too much time to find even better ones
@@EnjoyFirefighting So was it real or is it video editing ?
@@psirvent8 from minute 2:00 onwards everything was just edited ... American video clips with the soundtrack from German clips
European sirens in New York City?
I live in New York City, and those German sirens don't sound right over here
Next thing is unicorns on police cars to look not so aggrisive
I only like some of these sirens. Here are the sirens i like.
2:35
4:18
4:38
4:02
2:50
3:31
3:39
But they are "better". Yes, they sound shit, but they grab your attention.
@Keone Mohana might be annoying ... but it's the same if someone plays with the siren that we could as well be a DJ. Btw it's done also because some crews suffer hearing problems; Want to tell them to leave the USA as well?
@Keone Mohana it is NOT part of the job to get medical problems; It's up to the department and the crews to prevent that by regulations and adaptions. Just because sth was done for decades doesn't mean that it's up to date and good today, right?!
And it sure doesn't have to do with some political orientation, concerning your original answer.
Lyrics (American version):
Too Late
Too Late
That Guy's
Long Dead
Let's Just
Go Home
I Need
A Dough-
nut, want
One too?
Because
Too Late
You're too,
Boohoo!
Mikosch2 why I can’t stop laughing over those lyrics?
sirens, no matter which kind, give me goosebumps. it's like a wake-up call that reminds you of the fragility of our everyday lives, memento mori.
2:36 ,..the best Firetrucksound of the entire world !
0:49 sounds like when you broke your Headlights in GTA 4 in a police car
how is it an argument that they might be used at international airports? Most other large and international airports don't use wail/yelp sirens just because they are international ones
The first sentence of the description says “Yeah, there’s an emergency, but let’s enjoy the ride.” Like WTF?! We have these sirens for a reason people.
It's a quote and when you watched the linked video you sure will understand
if you live in NY, you will listen to sirens 24/7, each second 😂😂
Well I actually heard from a source, N.Y. is going back to bells because they didnt like these Euro sirens!
TheDrummie1 which source is that from what I herd last is they are trying to push for the European siren
@@jackvolpe933 It's true I heard it from several reliable sources. Bells and solid red oil lamps.
@@jackvolpe933 did you not get the joke?
@@dickgoezinyah aw yeah solid red, going back to 90's California
nicely timed doppler effect by the way, good work on the editing. I hope I can be a police officer soon, I'm 33 and I am ready for it. Wish me luck for the application please :D
@deer82 I wanna know too
Update??
2:35 American Fire Truck with European Fire Truck Siren
This is only done to make money for some people...
Stupid as hell.
Noise complaint? Move to the countryside if you want some silence.
how do you make money by flipping a switch on an already purchased siren?
EnjoyFirefighting - International Emergency Response Videos Because they have to spend money to get the new sirens put in, which means paying workers, which also means buying the new siren.
It’s a waste of money, but it moves it around to workers.
not necessarily: most siren modules have that mode already built in, the only thing to do is literally flipping a switch; Some other sirens might not have a switch but only need to connect or disconnect a cable ... sth anyone at a station can do
@@EnjoyFirefighting
I think the "European siren" policy should be renamed "hi-lo" or "two tone" siren policy because it sounds more descriptive. These politicians need to learn a thing or two. Euro sirens could be anything from Martinhorn to the Federal Signal AS sirens...which also have wail and yelp besides hi-lo. Many American sirens actually have hilo tones, so it isnt just "European". Hell, even POS China sirens have the hilo tones being proposed.
Now to the fun part: What sirens have the hilo tones, vs which ones dont.
The EQ2B's that FDNY use all do not have a hilo tone, so this will be a lot to replace. Neither do the PA4000's used by the ambulances. This is where the bulk cost of replacement will be.
NYPD lucks out because the SmartSiren has a hilo tone.
Other services may vary due to the large variety of sirens used by them. The biggest issue will be federal agencies such as FBI, DSS and so on. They are federal agencies and run sirens in NYC. Do they fall under the city' policies or go by their own rules? Many of these federal vehicles use a variety of sirens, some having hilo, others not.
@@sixstringbestfriend not to mention EQs are super expensive! It's just a bad idea all together. It's a city, there will be noise. They need to get over themselves
God, I have heard the mount Sinai ambulances, and I wondered what was up...
Beening hearing alot myself and had to check to make sure i am still in nyc 😂😂😂
stay calm, the europeans are here! haha
@Keone Mohana what about the value of having emergency crews which don't suffer hearing problems while protecting people living, working and visiting NYC?
Keone Mohana I’m actually cackling at the fact that you think sirens have genders. Wow.
@Keone Mohana im ashamed to be a republican
Well, i am from Germany... And i am a Volunteer Firefighter... I Love Our sirens and i am glad to See and hear Them in the U.S c:
For Petesake! Is it really that bad for a few seconds that the siren is loud. It's meant to be that way to tell you move over. We're to soft nowadays!
Engi Here you don’t that’s the point
@@Crankiebox99 oh yea it is, oops
Idk i'm from Europe where and they use both kind of siren.
I find it easier to individuate where the emergency vehicle is coming from with the German type.
I guess it's not just about the few seconds, but rather the ongoing sound effect by emergency vehicles passing by evry few minutes, and also for emergency crews sitting in the emergency vehicles
I work in rural EMS; we have the county hospital for the small stuff a half hour away, and the city hospitals for the oh fudge stuff more than an hour away. The city folks hear the sirens and are like whatever; so I reprogrammed the controller to replace wail with weewoo. And WOW! What a difference in the way people responded to hearing a new siren!
But after a while of us hearing the hypnotic sound of the weewoo for over an hour at 3am I/we decided to switch it back.
Side note: We had a cardiac call, and upon entering the city limits I hit the weewoo, the medic in the back had a mini heart attack because they thought the lifepak was making the charge/check pt alarm.
Firetrucks here in Chile, have a combination of European and American-styled sounds. And it works wonders, I must say! It's not un-common to hear a combination Q-style, a Martin-Horn and Rumbler, going down the street to an emergency, so it's just a matter of getting used to it.
I'm from a small town in Maine called Dover-Foxcroft and those are already EVERYWHERE. Some of the Police cars already have a French 3 style electric siren. And the Fire Engines have a British sort of tone to it. To be honest, culturally in Maine. We know that we are Americans, but we still have VERY strong bonds to Spain, France, Canada, Britain, Belgium, The Netherlands, Denmark and Portugal. So many things here, like the sirens of a Police car are more "Euro" as some people would say it. Btw, Ambulances also have that French 3 tone electronic siren as well except they are a little deeper in terms of pitch
Do you have any videos of them?
I love those hi-lo sirens, I wish that we hear them in Canada where I am from. All we have for sirens are wail/yelp/phaser but no hi-lo sirens in Fort Frances where I live
Einfach eine geniale Arbeit!!!! Hochachtungsvoll!!!
1:20 the yellow taxi has almost enough space for a whole car at his left and is like: "Sorry guys I cannot move out of the way, there is nothing I can do"
I don't approve I love my q siren
Yes sir
Agreed, I can't picture a giant F.D.N.Y. tiller company with that siren, sound better with the q
In live in very small town in Idaho but even then I hear fire trucks all the time and the only siren I ever here is the Q siren
mason longendyke q siren with loads of air horn, gotta love air horn
There are two types of sirens- mechanical sirens (which are usually only found on fire trucks these days) and electronic sirens (which are found on police cars, ambulances, and are also additionally found on firetrucks as a second siren to the mechanical ones). Virtually all electronic sirens that have been made in the US in the last 40 years have multiple modes including the European hi/lo tones, but we simply don't use them for some reason.
on this side of the pond mechanical sirens aren't only to be found on fire apparatus but also on small to large EMS vehicles, police trucks and apparatus from other departments and agencies. Among hi-lo sirens there are 3 types of sirens (electronic, supertone, mechanical) with a total number of 11 siren modes, of which 5 are legal in Germany
@@EnjoyFirefighting I would be interested in knowing how a mechanical hi-lo siren works. We also have a brand of electronic siren called The Rumbler that has a traditional sound as well as a subsonic sound that you can feel as well as hear. It is supposed to alert people who are playing music too loud, or have earbuds in. It really seems to work-I have never had anyone fail to yield.. it really is quite a sound.
@@victor-charlesscafati there's an air compressor and 2 sets of 2 horns each; The air compressor is running all the time and is alternating the air provided to the one set of horns and then the other set of horns:
czcams.com/video/ESCx2oLdvx8/video.html
It's technically like an airhorn, just that it doesn't have one but two tones, and that it's running as siren and not and airhorn
@@EnjoyFirefighting That makes perfect sense.
Guys, its not about what you like, its about what is best. Its a fact that European sirens are better to hear in loud places 🤷🏻♂️
Yes i “like” US Sirens but as you know:
safety first
Wrong, the US siren has a higher decimal rate and rage than the normal European siren which means that the US siren is a lot safer and more complex.
a lot safer? Define a siren being safe or not safe, please. Decimal rate? Do you mean decibel rate? In case you do, it's not quite correct, as there are sirens which are exactly as loud as the ones on the other side of the pond
I see this being very effective for a short while, as it will make people actually take notice because its different. Like "Wtf is that, imma get out of the way"
Is there any acoustic benefit or other benefit for the changes?
I live in UK and USA won't be the same without the yelp and wail especially the dual tone types! Keep them as they are 🤗
Peter Longden But do not forget the people living there. If you ask my ears they say take 1:54 oder 4:33
@@MrMeisterGamerMove out of the city then idiot!
The good thing about the Hi-Lo/Two-tone style sirens, is that they aren't drenched in the city sounds like the normal "American style" siren, but stands out better.
The other advantage is that it's easier to get a bearing of it, if it's going away from you or towards you, because of the clearly different tone pitch depending on which.
Family Guy: “People of France a guy smoking a cigarette is not a movie and your sirens sound gay guys having a threesome!”
Lol
I find the Europe siren very annoying I don't think they would be as effective as the wale Yelp or EQ sirens EQ sirens
Belive me, you can hear them very good and know immediately, from where theyre coming
There specially designed to get attention and to know we’re they are coming from
This is in Australia as well, police here have the nypd rumble siren in Australia as well
Update: The bill was rejected. It’s not happening. We’re staying with the normal sirens.
that's correct; It took a loooong time but in the end it was rejected. Didn't really expect sth different, but as the topic came up a few years ago it was still fun to create this video
Mega gut bearbeitet 💪🔥💯
I say no to change because Sirens need to be loud because most of motorists and pedestrians are distracted on phones.
Trust me, the air horns on fire fighting vehicles are very loud
So you prefer the German one? Because it works perfectly fine here.
Peter Meuller Only for the fire department, for the rest it’s weird (I know most of the sirens, I’m German)
Trigonix ZeNW Ich fahre die großen Blauen mit Martinshorn, klappt auch auch wunderbar ;)
Trogonix ZeNW there's no specific FIre / EMS / Police siren in Germany ... basicly you can hear any type of siren on emergency vehicles from any kind of emergency service
There’s just something weird about American emergency vehicles with two tones.
Why the hell would they do that? The American sirens, especially the wider range of available variations, are suited way better for crowded cities like NYC
Mount Sinai, although using a pretty poor version of the hi-lo, made very very good experiences with the hi-lo
@@EnjoyFirefighting Believe me, um driving hi-lo in Germany myself - they suck. The option of switching between different sound patterns like in the US would be a blessing
@@cyberhopser4231 I don't know where in Germany you are at, but although we only have the electronic ones on our units I can't complain about not being noticed by other drivers. We have 3 different siren modes, I use 2 of them and it's fine
2:36 tbh that sounds pretty cool
Your ears will bleed if you are within 300 ft reach. The Doppler Effect works especially well on these ones though.
@@donnerschwein better bring earmuffs then
LegoWormNoah101 earmuffs are like condoms in that case. When you need them, you don‘t have them
NYPD also used European style sirens in the fleet as well, as the Ford Fusion, the Chevrolet Impala, the Ford Police Interceptor Utility and the Ford Police Interceptor Sedan.
Wow, this almost looked real
I thought the same, but couldn't believe it
Yes it’s totally false, originals videos are here in CZcams
@StudioChannel 5 what is totally false? Do you know the original uploads and can you send me the link?
@@EnjoyFirefighting your not slick I seen these videos on CZcams you just covered the siren bud
@@minibinwaredisposaldude5641 send me the links then if you think that you'd be slick 😉
Dafuq?
America stolen our Sirens?!
TubeGalaxy I’m from America and I don’t want your sirens they belong with you I want my old ones back
okay,
The old was better!
Sorry guys but you don’t always get what you want in fact I like the new ones
@@silvean7215 you're right
It belongs to europe and will always be
More like NY
3:10 wich is this tone or siren model
HELLA RTK 4 LAND TONE.
1:49 is what i hear every night when i sleep lol
Just put in a pa300 and let it go
That physical hurt me to watch
As a Polish, i hear sometimes hear sirens like that on our old fire trucks, like JELCZ and STAR. And the only reason they move to the side is because they don’t want a 500 zł fine (£100)
This is terrible! not only are NYC's sirens gonna change, but the fire community would be mad.
nope its never be terrible its best idea with sirens germans and sirens americans its terrible and ugly and its same air raid siren yachhhhhhhhhh and best sirens germans i want this in all city from country and americans sirens never exist >:)
oh wait no in all country i try say in all city from america >:)
0:40 Sentinel Prime
I had hi/lows on my cruiser that I used when approaching an intersection then right back yelp. All I can say for hi/low is pedestrians move better but cars don’t move at all. The brighter the lights the better traffic cleared.
I think two tones tend too be easier to identify the direction the they are coming from especially in built up areas for example like at a city intersection
No shit cause you can see the light by then and the fdny and nypd yield with the traffic this wouldn't work
Jaymes quite often you first hear the emergency vehicle without being able to see it; Then it would be useful to know if it was behind you, coming from the right, left or from ahead of you. I filmed so many emergency vehicles, and with those having wail/yelp sirens I often ran into the completly wrong direction to film it
Interesting to watch NYC vehicles with Martinhorn sirens. 🤔😯
Just imagine when the bill is turned into an actual local law ... will be strang but also interesting to film in NYC again :D
The real question is which brand they're gonna use? Federal signal? Whelen? *insert other siren brand here*?
Ugh, politicians are doing what THEY want instead of "We The People" voting for it.
I am so glad this bill got struck down. Let the hospitals change theirs. The actual first responders will remain loud and proud.
Lol as if a Martin horn wouldn't be loud
@@EnjoyFirefighting It won't, it'll be dainty and annoying at the same time. Mechanical sirens have class. Not to mention no one will force the FDNY or NYPD to undo years of tradition. I mean many FDNY units now run Q Sirens again despite it still being against city law and department regulations. And do you think New Yorkers care? Probably not. But it DOES get them to move out of the way. Just ask Rescue 1.
@@Stargazzer811 a Martin horn is a mechanical siren, pneumatic to be precise.
Well yeah ... saw them taking longer to get from 6th to 7th Ave than we take for our entire run to the scene 😅
@@EnjoyFirefighting 1stly, I know what a Martin Horn is and how it operates. It also does not produce square soundwaves which are crucial for alerting the public by penetrating sound-deadening material found in modern cars and buildings.
2ndly, are you keenly aware of how many cars are in Manhattan alone? Traffic, not noise pollution, is the issue NYC needs to fix. You wanna know why drivers don't move for the FDNY? Its not because they don't want to, at least not always. Its because they can't, not without causing an accident or wrecking their vehicle.
If they have no where to go, then they can't move out of the way as the law dictates. THAT, not what siren is used, is the true issue.
"crucial for alerting the public" that's what the stronger tremolo tuning on the martin horn is for. Not sure what kind of sound-wave they produce; Only know that it has the same db(A) at the same measuring distance. And apart from actual specs: we don't need an airhorn besides the siren, as the siren itself technically is an airhorn already ;)
I'm well aware of that; And also, that the streets are quite a bit wider - often enough drivers are too lazy or too stupid to move aside even if there's more than sufficient space to move over. How do you think do drivers manage to pull over in tight city environments here? It can be done if you really want to, unless there really isn't any space to move aside. But on a 5 lane wide road ... even if jammed with cars, it would be easy to create a bit of room for an ambulance or fire truck to fit through, if people only really tried to move aside.
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The corporations already own the world bro. Remember, you're on CZcams.
4:18 and 4:38 beautiful sirens
I would say you are right!
mmm the First is very similar to old siren here in Italy.
Here we call that "pneumatic siren", btw i don't know how to explain😂
Strangely, I think the siren tones could work out in New York specifically with the emergency services featured in the video. If fits them.
Wow. As traditional as the fire department is I really can't believe this.
it would be good if everyone in the world would have the same noise so everyone excatly knows when your help is arriving! :)
thanks to all good officers, fireworkers etc. thanks for doing a great job and keeping a lot of people save
Glad you finally changes sirens!
-From Europe
It’s a siren, it’s supposed to be loud...
True. I live all the way in kingsbridge, the bronx, NYC, NY and i can hear those Q sirens from the bus stop. And it's a mile away.
Guess what they are. The next fire department here is about 2km away (1.25 miles I think?) and I can still hear the siren (or horn as we call it) even if they mostly don't drive any closer than 800m/05miles away fromy house. Also many tests said that the martinhorn is exactly as loud as the q at full blast
2:40 i just started laughing
not when you are in 100 meters reach (learn metrics). Your ears will bleed.
Bigguns222 Or at 4:33
As an Australian I'd say those Euro sirens are depressing, even if I need an ambulance if it arrives with that siren I'll be more sick.
I guess you'd choose whatever arrives on scene and helps you, even if it's approaching with some crazy going Italian sirens
@@EnjoyFirefighting
bee doo bee doo bee doo.... eh please, it's 2019 and we need some futuristic sirens not something from Hitler's days!
@@azmagaref actually, until some decades ago wail and Yelp sirens were very popular in the GDR. Don't know which ones were the most common during Hitler ...
4:40 I never see NY so European like this, I’m European an I like it 😂
As an American its very strange to see a mercedes sprinter used as an ambulance. As Ford superduty or ford e-series is most commonly used.
In my opinion, thus is going to blend right into the urban landscape and nobody will pay attention to it. Bad idea
Germany has a law that prohibits emergency vehicles from having wail/yelp sirens and only having hi/lo sirens or two-tone horns because hi/lo sirens are more effective at making cars yield.
I've always liked European sirens they are the most satisfying sirens there are just my opinion.
It’s not suppose to be satisfying, sirens are intended so people know there’s an emergency so they can pull over, be aware of what’s coming and move out the way
Super zusammengeschnitten! Sogar mit Doppler und allem drum and dran!
(Bei dem ESU wäre bestimmt ein Bosch Starktonhorn lustig gewesen)
Danke :)
Ja, hatte ich u.a. überlegt