Sony A7SIII Footage Color Graded by Dolby Colorist in HDR!
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- I sit down with Shane Ruggieri from Dolby to get an insight look at what a colorist does and also better understand what Dolby Vision is and HDR while he color grades Sony A7SIII Footage.
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After watching this I realised:
1. I need to calibrate my monitor
2. I know nothing about colour grading
3. This guys legit! Would love to learn more thanks Armando for filming this
same
Yup... I realized those same things...
same here
same
Same and then a lot of big youtubers selling LUTs coz they think they are pros LOLOL
"Sometimes you don't want to retain all that detail". I wish more people realized this
Truth.
@@hwcentertainment .ln9
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7 p 70
I wish I was better at telling when I should and shouldn't retain detail. I guess that'll come with time
Its all depends on the creative intent.
No disrespect to CZcamsrs, but this is content we need to see. Elite Hollywood colorists grading footage from a pro-sumer camera.
@TruthBeTold lol I probably would feel disrespected too. But hey it’s competition for viewers man and COVID-19 has produced an explosion of CZcamsrs making content to make money and not everyone is providing value. So step up or get stepped on 🤷🏽♂️
Well you said it, this just emphasizes when Armando said "I don't mess with this kind of stuff". This proves that most youtubers stick to the basics, be it photography or videography, while the pros play it on the big league where there are teams and the quality of the content needs to be way up there
How much of this video had anything to do with the level of camera?
Do a lot of elite colorists use Davinci Resolve? Honest question
@@heavyglassglass I would say most do.
I can't believe I just watched a Masterclass for free.
Forreal though, it's so refreshing to finally hear from actual high-standard professionals. This video is on the top 1% of this kind of content on youtube.
I love, how even in post production, he started immediately talking about lighting, explaining lighting on set, etc. Also, I can't wait until my komodo shows up. I have so many questions!
I like the talk of focus on feel, and intent..that’s the mentality of story tellers. Discussion 22:50 is beautiful. “ Yes you can shoot in raw, but does your story need it?” Always start with the story, the feeling that you want to convey.👏👏👏👏
I absolutely agree. We need the tech but the risk is that it becomes all about the tech.
it's actually a very good and humble advise. he basically said that you don't need all the gimicks (fancy equipment and/or heavy/elaborate post production) if your purpose don't ask for them. it's just like what he said, a hammer for nails and screwdriver for screws. the right tool for the right job.
As a colourist I find my self more of a therapist between the director, the producer and the DP. As long as everybody walks out of the room happy I’ve done my job. I’ll fix the noise in the shadows and roll off the highlights when they’re gone...
Huh
Now that we're on it. What's your go to strategy to fix noise in the shadows?
Well, that would be different on a case by case basis but if I have the raw source I would start by checking exposure settings or redoing the first light to match the rest of the scene. That takes care of most problems and is also really tedious so I don’t want to do that during client time. If the footage is in a not ideal format (4:2:0 8 bit junk...) or was just shot underexposed I’ll nudge up the NR, unlink the chroma if it’s really colour noise and abuse the temporal NR cause that thing is brilliant. Also doing luma keys if I want to keep details in areas and matching back in a bit of grain.
...but y’know, whatever works
@@ChrisdeCastro Yeah that's what I guessed, thanks for the insight. 8-bit is by far the best footage I can work with (camera wise), so best I can go with will still be with NeatVideo NR. The more I film and do post I realize how important the amount of information in the raw footage is. Over or underexposed? Well gotta find a way to get the footage to a level it's not too weird. Hopefully I can upgrade from the S II to an S III at some point. Really want to get my hands on some nice 10-bit. Really want to know how different it will be to correct and grade.
@@SchaffnerMovies you can get a great image with a lesser camera, you just have to do more work before you start rolling. Working on getting lighting right for a good exposure in camera will make you a better DP. I’m finding lots of DPs getting lax because they know they can recover in post when they shoot raw. Understanding how to get that image on set will also make you better when working in post.
Good luck and keep at it
What I love about this guy (the colorist) is that he’s just so subjective! It’s whatever you want. Whatever works for you. Whatever you like. I love it! Even on the teal and orange thing, the internet is like ‘hating on teal and orange cuz it’s cool to do so’ but even this guy is like, if it’s your thing, go for it. Love his mindset. Feel very free to express yourself creatively with a mindset like his.
I work on movies as sound engineer and it's crazy how similar this is.
You're right on! Our fields are intimately related, we just use different tools. Great thing is, we can and, often do, compliment each other, cueing off each other with out really "working" directly together. One of my favorite sound mixes is ROMA from Alfonso Cuaron, his ATMOS mix of that movie was hands down the most amazing experience for me. We played it in our 1275 Market St in SF Dolby Cinema and I was blown away at how much I was transported into the moments he created. He used panning sound scapes...one scene, it was raining outside and you could hear the rain from the living room, the open downstairs and the kitchen (and each had it's own quality), as the camera panned the placement of the living room, downstairs and kitchen were panned to remain logically where they should be as if you had just turned your head.... yes others have done this, but not to this level... EVERY conversation in the movie was scripted. YES... EVERY. ... such realism... and that's exactly what we try to do in the color bay when we can. ...so yes, I imagine you know exactly what I was saying.crazy indeed...
Are you on Vidafi?
@@JohnnyYork no, not on vidafi. I’ll check it out though!
Hé is the mastering engineer. Exactly the same questions like: how does it have to feel?
It's almost like an audio mastering but for moving picture...
I could sit and watch Shane for hours, his passion shines through in every moment and it makes for a very enjoyable watch.
Thanks Derrick!
Amazing video, tons and tons of information and I love his attitude.
Thanks for stopping by man!
Love his attitude too! He seems like such a humble and nice guy
@@mondobytes great stuff Armando, I enjoyed that very much. Will have to go thank Kondor Blue for sponsoring this trip. Can't wait for their A7SIII cage and rig setup. Have a great day!
I love his latitude
Could not agree more chill down to earth and impressively informational, I could watch a whole series on him and his technics.
I love sitting in on colour sessions and watching the masters at work. I'm glad you were able to film this. So much good info!
Well you saw him. He is just eye balling on a 30k hdr display. We don't have that. So, back to LUT , lol
Hey, what other videos do you recommend on colour sessions. Thank you
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You know someone knows their stuff when they get philosophical about a technical topic. Great vid!
Not only that he knows his stuff but rather that he absolutely loves his profession. Very passionate about his craft.
I loved the colorist. The way he describes color grading, such a passionate and visual person.
Man i dont wanna complain because this is absolutely great quality content, but please pull focus quicker or smash it down a few F-stops. It is hard to watch like this! I wanna see what he is doing in Davinci, but then I have to look at you for example...
but thanks again great interview great content!!
facts!!!!
agreed
I was about to post the same comment. The continuous shift makes my head hurt.
Should have just screen recorded the main monitor
does he have a team to pull focus? because if he's shooting solo that's a bit tricky!
I used to work as a colorist for 12 years. I truly miss it. Listening to him and see him explain and work brought back good memories!
This video could have been 10 hours long and still too short. This talk/discussion with Shane was so interesting and filled with with tons of useful info.
Cheers,
Eivind
super kind Elvind... thanks man!
@@shanemario13 My pleasure man!
I've never felt more like an amateur than after listening to this mastermind work. WOW
I loved how freeing his information was. Do what you want, there's no right or wrong, it's about what YOU want. Such a foundational message as a creative.
Armando this video is crazy, never learned so much about coloring in such a short time. Thank you for jumping in and getting these interviews for all of us!!!!
I'm very impressed by Shane. Not only he seems to be a very kind, well spoken, nice guy, I just love the way he thinks about his job. Even though I'm a working music composer and have no idea about color corection and found myself on this channel by accident, the way he describes his process is inspiring and could be easilly adopted in my field. Which is focusing on a story and emotion rather than technicalities. The amount of time I wasted worrying about my computer, software and gear often makes me forget what is the thing I do, or should do, in my job - co-create a story and use all the electronics as tools, nothing more than tools.
This is the best video I've seen on colour. I love his answers too, no nonsense but so educational.
What a nice guy
I could listen to this dude talk about this stuff for days. If I would have had a teacher like him when I was growing up, I feel like my life would have been so different, for the better.
This is something that so many people don't even notice or care about, at least not consciously, yet there is so much care and detail put into it and I am so happy for people like this that follow their passion.
wow, thank you Mystic5Shadow... if I get my channel together, I'd be honored if you popped in every so often. :)
with the way he is telling the details shows how insanely talented and professional the dolby guy is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just AWESOME
Thanks Vivek, kind of you to say.
First video I’ve seen on CZcams that captures what it’s really like in color correct / grade session. I’m a creative Director in NYC and this is exactly what we do for every single TV spot.
Whoever watches the whole thing- know that you are serious about your craft!
So true!!
It needed to be a hour long...
im just starting but im an informationist lol
I'm an audio engineer who only dabbles in video, but I find this all very interesting. As in my profession, the kinds of questions on the minds of amateurs are so different from the questions on the minds of professionals who work in their field day-in and day-out. There's a tendency for amateurs to be so focused on the technical and the tools that they lose sight of the overarching purpose of what we're all trying to do here in the media... tell a story, and tell it in the most compelling way possible. The technical matters up until the point that it doesn't any more. I kept hearing him say this, in one form or another, with every question that he was asked.
story first... let it educate the technical requirements, choices, and directions.
The expert has tons of knowledge and has conveyed some very valuable milligrams of it to us amateurs in a very understandable way, for which he deserves a big thank you.
I love how refreshing it is to hear from an industry pro.
The fact that Tyler Stalman asked a question shows how good your content is.
His perspective is phenomenal.
What a great experience to listen to this expert. I hope you will have more of him or just tell him to start his own YT channel .
I wish u had someone pulling focus when he was doing the angled luminance thing cos it was very frustrating seeing a blurry screen while something epic was happening
This dude should teach a Masterclass.
Much appreciated Hype... I'd do one if they offered!
@@shanemario13 Please, do something
@@shanemario13 I don't even do video and I would watch a few hours of you talking about color grading.
@@johnneiberger7311 wow, super kind of you John!
Thank you so much for this video and the downloadable sample footage at the end. I was scouring the internet these past few days for some A7SIII Slog3 footage and this is perfect. Thank you!
This is one of the most insightful and interesting videos I have seen. Thanks so much to Shane for sharing his enthusiasm and expertise. Total professional.
Even though it’s clear that Armando did not enjoy this interview, the premise of the content is priceless. We need to see more videos like this. Thanks for the video Armando 👍
Thank you so much Armando for working together with Shane and providing us so so much insight into the world of HDR that we will live in a couple of years. It's been really really informative and it inspires me to continue at my filmmaking craft! Will definitely love to see a part 2 of this video where he goes through the entire workflow!
WOW. That's INSANE, I can't even explain how much value of this video has
Great great video Armando! Could listen to this guy all day
I told him he needs to start a channel!
a true master of his art. so mesmerizing to watch him explain.
Idk how you can dislike this video, Armando out here giving free workshops lol
disliked by people who think that story is everything, but they do not realize that a story can be enhanced by colors as well. basically, elitists doush
@@petrub27 I got the opposite-people who worry too much about technicality and equipment tend to lose the soul and story of the project. I respect Tyler Stalman’s question, but I love the answer to it: focus on the story! My ethos, and my company’s ethos, is that story IS everything
@@javebjorkman yet you can't detach it from the visual eye candy, camera motion and lightning, basically the technical aspect of the movie. But I think he ment what you said
You can dislike the fact that it's shorter than it ought to be :)
@@petrub27 there is definitely a marriage between technical prowess and masterful storytelling. I think we're just fed with all technical stuff on CZcams. He was refreshing because finally someone who's not also just focused on stuff
I was planning to watch 5 minutes and finish the rest eventually, another browser tab to go back to. But Shane's knowledge, insights and generosity kept me watching it all through in one sitting.
This guy is on another level! wow.
I loved how modest he is. The true mark of an artist 🎨
I think this was a very informative colorist video. One of the best I’ve seen on CZcams thus far, everything else has been amateur hour and cutting corners, this was simple, honest, and nothing complicated from a pro within a short amount of time, obviously there’s more to it to color grading but I would prefer videos like this other than a CZcamsr wasting my time and tryin to sell me their luts. Anyway thanks for the video man looking forward to the next ones!
Loved hearing from Shane. What a guy! Thank you for taking us there
Sometimes guys like this can seem a little off putting at first, because they seem arrogant... but my goodness I appreciate this dudes knowledge and by the end of the video I appreciated him even more. Great video Armando.
Thank you kindly Two One Se7en, very nice of you to say.
Yes sir. All the respect in the world. 🙏
He doesn't seem arrogant at all to me.
Over a year later and I’m back to watch this again. So much great insight and thought into WHY we want our images to look the way that they do. I came for knowledge and left with wisdom.
That top and bottom luminance adjustment was a great tip. Another tool in the arsenal. That was dope.
(Gets to the end…) “what do you mean it’s already over?! More more MORE!” Great interview. Only slightly sad my question didn’t get asked. Also that 3D face tracking for the power window makes me want to learn Resolve for grading.
Pls learn resolve. I was scared of the interface at first, but in two days, I know where each tool was and could find my way. It is an interesting software and makes color-grading an exhilarating experience for every colorist. The 3D face tracker is boss. It's so powerful for it makes your face pop...
13:39 Really good trick to direct viewers.
I'm blown away at how much value and information is being packed into CZcams these days. Like holy hell! Thank you so much! I hope you get paid out the ass for these videos! I was days away from ordering my Kondor Blue cage for my new a7s iii and now I get a discount of $50 just because I decided to watch a video that was already free and JAM PACKED with useful knowledge. Feeling very blessed to live in the time I'm living in :) THANK YOU!!!
I don't even work with video, but listening to this man talk was a blast. He really know what he is doing, and I'm not talking about the technical part (wich also was 10/10).
I need more of this guys knowledge!
This is a friend I would like to have. Such a friendly guy and simplifies his complex knowledge so well!
thanks Joshua... very kind to say.
I saw through this whole video and was impressed! especially with the black bars scene. this was an amazing watch!
He was being very very polite about LUTs
lol... nah, I'm just not a hard left or hard right about them... I think they have their place but like any tool, they need to be understood and used purposefully :)
@@shanemario13 They still suck lol Anyways, I loved the video and your knowledge improved my workflow. Thank You Shane.
I want to be able to do color work! Can't ever have enough of this.
The first 10 minutes of this talk is the real gem. It shows what it means to work with these flat profiles on a set and the importance of having an excellent LUT which can show you the end result while you're filming. Otherwise there is no way of remembering how it actually looked on the set during filming. Thank you for posting this.
I love this type of video. So many youtubers, even the big names like Peter McKinnon and Matti Haapoja just kind of gloss over the basics of the color grading process. This offers a better insight into the process. Also, another great channel more specific to color grading that offers great color grading and color correcting tips is "color grading central". Thanks for sharing Armando.
If people watch them and they entertain they get paid. It's as deep as that.
@@rsmith02 I get it. I do. I actually really like both Peter McKinnon and Matti Haapoja. Love their content. There is a space for everyone on CZcams.
They aren’t colorists at Dolby and neither is Armando.
What an amazing artist and generous person. I love how rigorous but also flexible he is in relationship to the work - always bringing it back to the story and the individual expression of the artist. Thanks so much for sharing this. Invaluable.
I just wanted to say thank you, first of all. I appreciate that you did such a long video. I know longer videos require so much more work. But, when I tell you this could have been an hour long, I would have still watched every second of it. Blessings!
Don’t care how long the video was, Could listen to him all day! 👌
This was awesome straight from an industry professional!! I liked the question about the luts and his view on them. I picked up a lot of useful things from his workflow that I've never used before.
I can't wait to see the final film!
Great guy...I wish I had a teacher like him..he knows and loves his work
thanks North Pole, I'm still designing the channel... but super appreciate the feedback.
The difference of thought between a Professional and a hobbyist / social media content creator is absolutely amazing to witness.
Hey Armando! I want to thank you for this video. It was extremely informative and helpful to hear just a bit of Shane's color wisdom. I know sometimes CZcams and many viewers don't like longer form videos like this. However, I for one greatly appreciate the opportunity to do more of a deep dive into a subject. Thanks again! Gus
What an informative video! Really like the mood “eye before the scope” in the name of the story. Bravo!
This has been of the best videos I've put into my list. This is incredible stuff, not only does Shane go into the technicals but also the interactive and collaborative aspect of this work. Just shows how much goes into communication and getting the story right. I feel educated.
Wow I finally understood HDR from that explanation! Thanks!
Dear god this was amazing. Context matters so much. It's not just about making it look good. Totally worth staying up past my bedtime to watch.
Love seeing and hearing his thought process!
Great interview. Shane is very human. He do not impose truths or ways of doing things. Everything is relative according to the dialogue with the person in charge of the project. Best of all, working on DOLBY only uses a DaVinci Resolve Mini Panel, breaking the myth that something more expensive is needed. Nice to know if you will be teaching color in a course, Shane.
He seems so down to earth! Great interview! Considering the genre on my channel, as expected, I really loved this one! 👍😃
Thanks for this! As someone at the entry level, it's very helpful to hear the insights of someone at the top end.
YESSS! Been looking for something like this for so long. Thank you so much Armando and Shane for putting this together. This is so incredibly valuable.
logical, Straight forward, No time waste, To the point answers. keep it up!!
I could have watched two hours of that or longer! Armando what about his graded footage how do we see his grade? Please share thanks x
Exactly, I was desperate to see the graded one 🔥
This is probably the most informed interview on post-production as it relates to filmmaking on the internet.
This video is not long enough. It should've been 10 hours. :P
Director/ Client serving more than well done 🙏🏾 The patience and listening abilities are key.
The kind of content I like to show clients what it takes to get that look they crave from their reference media, because I can't do it all.
Funny how you were worried there was too much time on the video. This could have easily gone on much longer. Nice to see that you were pulled apart for mentioning a LUT. Interesting video. 👍
Whoa, this was amazing! Thank you, Armando.
Wow bong eats you are here !! Love your cooking videos 👍
This is one of the best videos of 2020!!! I would watch hours and hours of Shane talking about colour and grading!!! Please ask him to do a masterclass! :)
Wow very nice and what a cool guy! Came to the video looking to learn some technical things of color grading and left with not only that but also with insights into trusting my own instincts and my expression because at the end of the day everything we do truly is just art and stories. Thanks to both.
Maybe the most important thing about Shane is that he's charismatic af, not a second monotone, you enjoy listening to him, I guess I can learn anything from him not just colour grading. We all should strive and practice and least to be better if we aren't born with this gift.
All in all thank you :)
This was phenomenal! Thanks Armando for this insight into Dolby 🙏🏼
The video i was looking for month ago, thanks to both of you!
oh man, i'm in love with Shane.
Very kind.
@@shanemario13 best wishes from Brazil. you rock!
Love listening to a chill, articulate professional
This was awesome, I've been making HDR videos every week since picking up the a7s III. We need more HDR evangelists. 😁
As a person learning how to color grade.. That is the best video I have watched, period. Thanks Armando, great interview and Shane was amazing. You could have done 3 hrs and I would still be watching. Thanks
thanks pat.. super kind of you to say.
Shane is very gd at explaining difficult terms. nice!
Thank you Macca!
The way the pro colorist from dolby talks says he knows what he is talking about. Great to learn from the masters :) Thanks from bringing this amazing content armando!
Love the idea! Just a suggestion. It would've been more helpful to show his screen-recording more often so we could see when he was making adjustments.
Since we were flying we packed light and thought we could just use a screen recorder on the computer but unfortunately we weren't allowed to install anything on the computer, but if this video does well we will definitely go back and do more in depth stuff with Shane, he's a great human being.
@@mondobytes Ahh! Makes sense. Looking forward to the next one.
@@mondobytes Yes!
Those 34 minutes felt like just essence of what he do
This was crazy good, tons of info! That guy knows his stuff. I don’t know a ton about color grading and that guy just made me even worse 🤣🤣🤣 thanks mondo!
I've watched this twice already. So informative and done with style. Thank you