Late fall is the perfect time to treat hives with oxalic acid vapor. Here I demonstrate using the battery operated oxalic acid vaporizer. A must have tool.
Good review. I just treated 9 hives today. It took me about ten minutes each. Watched most of this before treating just as a reminder to myself. Thanks.
I love treating my (1) hive w/OAV. Cheap & Easy to use. I go in thru the BACK where the pest tray goes which keeps the hot wand Under the screened bottom & away from the Bee's feetzies. 😊🐝👍 and if I had more than a few hives, I would get a 2nd wand to lessen the wait time between each treatment. 👍 I also hit them with Formic Pro late Fall & early Spring. 💞 Mites must die! ☠☠☠ Thank You for the video.
I used one of those vaporizers one time. The whole time I had it in my hive I was terrified it would set my hive on fire. Used it once, put it back in the box and ordered a vaporizer that heats the OA outside of the hive.
Really appreciate your insights and innovations Peter. But, the directions are wrong, forget "approval". Keeping in mind our northern climate dosing varies because of limited Fall-Winter brood (bloodlessness) Me, I've seen double stacked Nucs hit with as much as 5 grams with zero adverse effects,to the bees. 3 grams per supers is currently the most common dosage. You might want to refer to the University of Georgia Honey Bee research facility (Jennifer Berry and Lewis Bartlett). Also Dr. Cameron Jack U of F. Or see Jul 25, 2021 "Oxalic Acid Mite Treatment Research, Part 1 of 3" series for aa video interview. I'd be hard pressed to name another commercial beekeeper that still uses only 1 gram per super. And one of the great sides of using higher doses is that the bees fan more thus further circulating the OA to further spread. Not to criticize but hoping to bring us all up to date. The funny thing is that no one yet knows how OA kills the mites.
You are absolutely right. Thank you for putting this comment up! I think their research is fantastic and while I tend to use more than 1g per super I am wary of say otherwise would be recommending breaking the law. As the label is the law. I will need to choose my words more carefully for videos I make in future.
@@woodsman4cb it really depends upon what time of year you're hitting them. Possibly two grams per super. Keeping in mind if you hit them really hard it does retard the queen's laying. Which during her producing winter bees can be a death knell to the springs nurse beats feeding larvae.
@@woodsman4cb You need to pull or isolate the suppers. You shouldn't treat the honey just the brood boxes. I remove the supers but some put a sheet of plywood between.
Hi Peter. Was wondering if the very hot wand could put the queen at risk? Always in the back of my mind when treating and finding some bees that weren’t so lucky.
I’m intrigued by OA fogging. I saw a CZcams where a combination of OA, distilled water, and vegetable glycerin sticks to the inside of the hive v crystals upon cooling. Your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
You do not need to remove honey supers but if you still have honey supers on I would speculate that you do have brood and Oxalic acid vapor does not get mites in the brood and that is where 80+% of the mites are. Other treatments would be more effective.
Hi Peter. I wanted to ask you if there's a way to treat bees with oxalic acid with a non-vapor delivery system? Or maybe in sugar syrup and have it be effective still? I can't be around acid vapor and crap because of respiratory problems. But I don't want to have dead bees. ... Also I hear different rates of how often to use oxalyc acid in the # of times used per year also? I'd heard people in my area used to do twice in the spring, and then twice in the fall. But now they say that's not working as well. What would you suggest for frequency?
I thought the bees took a break during the winter if I have one more before springtime I will have more forms this winter than I did the whole season. LOL
LOL YOUNG man! I will watch how Aluen Cap works, but one thing I love about this treatment method is avoiding opening the hives and breaking up their winter propolis work.
Good review. I just treated 9 hives today. It took me about ten minutes each. Watched most of this before treating just as a reminder to myself. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
@@BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer Just put up my own version.
I like to keep a bucket of water to stick the hot wand in to cool it down before the next hive.
Certainly an option.
I love treating my (1) hive w/OAV. Cheap & Easy to use. I go in thru the BACK where the pest tray goes which keeps the hot wand Under the screened bottom & away from the Bee's feetzies. 😊🐝👍 and if I had more than a few hives, I would get a 2nd wand to lessen the wait time between each treatment. 👍 I also hit them with Formic Pro late Fall & early Spring. 💞 Mites must die! ☠☠☠ Thank You for the video.
Good plan
I used one of those vaporizers one time. The whole time I had it in my hive I was terrified it would set my hive on fire. Used it once, put it back in the box and ordered a vaporizer that heats the OA outside of the hive.
Thank you! Very timely and helpful! ❤️🐝🐝 in Northern IL
You are so welcome!
Great video, thanks for sharing :)
Thanks for watching!
Thank you sir.
Any time
1 gram or 1/4 teaspoon per brood chamber. That double needs a double dose.
Really appreciate your insights and innovations Peter. But, the directions are wrong, forget "approval". Keeping in mind our northern climate dosing varies because of limited Fall-Winter brood (bloodlessness) Me, I've seen double stacked Nucs hit with as much as 5 grams with zero adverse effects,to the bees. 3 grams per supers is currently the most common dosage.
You might want to refer to the University of Georgia Honey Bee research facility (Jennifer Berry and Lewis Bartlett). Also Dr. Cameron Jack U of F. Or see Jul 25, 2021 "Oxalic Acid Mite Treatment Research, Part 1 of 3" series for aa video interview.
I'd be hard pressed to name another commercial beekeeper that still uses only 1 gram per super. And one of the great sides of using higher doses is that the bees fan more thus further
circulating the OA to further spread.
Not to criticize but hoping to bring us all up to date. The funny thing is that no one yet knows how OA kills the mites.
You are absolutely right. Thank you for putting this comment up! I think their research is fantastic and while I tend to use more than 1g per super I am wary of say otherwise would be recommending breaking the law. As the label is the law. I will need to choose my words more carefully for videos I make in future.
Dear Sir,
How much Oxalic Acid would you recommend for an 8 frame deep with 3 medium supers?
@@woodsman4cb it really depends upon what time of year you're hitting them. Possibly two grams per super.
Keeping in mind if you hit them really hard it does retard the queen's laying.
Which during her producing winter bees can be a death knell to the springs nurse beats feeding larvae.
@@woodsman4cb You need to pull or isolate the suppers. You shouldn't treat the honey just the brood boxes. I remove the supers but some put a sheet of plywood between.
Hi Peter. Was wondering if the very hot wand could put the queen at risk? Always in the back of my mind when treating and finding some bees that weren’t so lucky.
I suppose a VERY tiny risk but insignificant
Thinkyou for your you tube videos 📹
Thanks
Do you not have to worry about the hot wand catching wax/frames on fire?
Not unless I leave it there for 20 minutes!
I’m intrigued by OA fogging. I saw a CZcams where a combination of OA, distilled water, and vegetable glycerin sticks to the inside of the hive v crystals upon cooling. Your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
I have heard a lot of negative results using a fogger for application. Watch tomorrow's video about using the sublimator if you want to scale up.
Do I remove the honey super first?
You do not need to remove honey supers but if you still have honey supers on I would speculate that you do have brood and Oxalic acid vapor does not get mites in the brood and that is where 80+% of the mites are.
Other treatments would be more effective.
Hi Peter.
I wanted to ask you if there's a way to treat bees with oxalic acid with a non-vapor delivery system? Or maybe in sugar syrup and have it be effective still?
I can't be around acid vapor and crap because of respiratory problems. But I don't want to have dead bees.
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Also I hear different rates of how often to use oxalyc acid in the # of times used per year also? I'd heard people in my area used to do twice in the spring, and then twice in the fall. But now they say that's not working as well. What would you suggest for frequency?
yes, Look up the drissle method.
Are you bee's still swimming I have had two swarms in the last 3 weeks and one 3 weeks ago and one today
I thought the bees took a break during the winter if I have one more before springtime I will have more forms this winter than I did the whole season. LOL
No that risk ended here in Maine about 2 months ago as there was not a good fall flow.
Poor young man , with your knees on the ground.
Read about ALUEN CAP, thats much More comfortable and More effektive against the Mites
LOL YOUNG man! I will watch how Aluen Cap works, but one thing I love about this treatment method is avoiding opening the hives and breaking up their winter propolis work.