London Tilbury and Southend Railway 1993 part 1
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- The LT&SR during a time of change in 1993, with the ageing 302, 305 and 308 electric multiple units giving way to only slightly newer class 310 and 312. This was the final year of Network Southeast, and the LTS branding is in preparation for forthcoming privatisation.
This first part follows the line from Shoeburyness, with a variety of stock present in the carriage sidings, through Thorpe Bay and Southend East, showing the disused parcels depot, finishing with a detailed look at Southend Central.
With thanks to BR staff for assistance given.
Music: 'Incidental' by Chasm
Video recording : VHS-C with linear mono sound
Good grief, this is a blast from the past. 57 now and live in British Columbia, Canada but I used to use this line all the time. Was a "spotter" in the day and my local station was Laindon. My most memorable trip on this line was the 125th Anniversary where a few of us were fortunate enough to get tickets for the HST run from Liverpool Street, via Barking to Southend Central. Broke the line speed record between Barking and Upminster on the day. Thanks for the upload, and let me say that the recording quality is exceptional.
Thanks for your appreciation. I saw the HST as it passed Old Leigh, but no video at that time , unfortunately.
Core i miss them slam door trains i always remember you had to open door with arm out the window as the latch inside the carriage never worked to open the door lol
Thank you for uploading this it brings back happy memories from my time as a guard on the LTS between 1991 - 1996.
Thank you so much for the upload! Growing up this was my local station and I would often wait with my dad at the platform, looking back at the overgrown weeds behind the fence and wonder why there was an old platform there and why it wasn't being used anymore. Finally I know when it was closed (a year before I was born!) and why!
I also remember the old entrance building. One summer in 1996 a friend and I on the way home from school found the door unlocked and ajar and we crept a few feet inside. There were adverts on the walls for parcel charges and old train timetables scattered on the floor. Twelve years later I happened to live in one of the flats now occupying the siote of that building.
That compressor noise takes me straight back to my days of going to the footie!
Loved these old trains, they had character and only became unreliable because BR had little money however they (302, 305,308) lasted 40 odd years. 310s312s especially 312s from mid 70s didn’t last as long as to be replaced by the 357s.
I used this line in Southend / Benfleet area from mid 80s so have seen all different 1st gen emus, now commute to London daily on the 357s.
This brings back memories especially the dc traction motor sound and mechanical cam tap changer starting resistances clicking when pulling away. To an engineer, Sounds so much better than the modern annoying high pitched wirring ac motors.
Paul, get off your 357 one day at Upminster and take the shuttle train to Romford. The 1970s class 315s still have DC motors and the familiar Westinghouse compressors. They will be replaced very soon, though, so I have been told.
Fantastic late BR era footage! For the people and the fashions as much as the trains. I didn't ride on this line, but recall seeing many of these classes of unit on the GEML and elsewhere. What's interesting is that, although they were already considered old at this point, the 305 and 308 units would both go on to survive for another 8 years working around Manchester and Leeds respectively! The 308s looked rather nice in the WYPTE red and cream livery....despite the fact they were over 20 years older than the trains they replaced! haha
Thank you for uploading this. I have such fond memories of going on these trains with my dad as a kid. I lived in Grays for 9 years and I used to see the station from my bedroom window so I’d see all these rattle past every day/night. I used to love it on foggy days when I’d see the sparks glow from the pantograph’s, plus they used to run at the end of my school field at Thameside.
Stayed at South Benfleet in 1998 and used this line into London on quite a few occasions. The Class 302s were my favourite.
Brilliant footage, great memories.
What a great video. The old 302s were very characterful, and by all accounts very reliable.
There is a link at the end of part one, or use this... czcams.com/video/JtyMKxTtEHc/video.html
This brings back memories! I passed out as a driver at Sness in '92....... some really good times at Shoebury. Always a pot of tea on the go in the messroom and a card school going playing kalukee.
The driver on 310 094 at 7:18 retired in 2020. He was at Sness all his career.... (not me by the way)
@@hollyhamilton3319 Hi Holly.... yes there was 12 cars back then. Nice, a WTT from '93! :)
@@hollyhamilton3319 no, sorry.... I have an old bardic lamp though ☺️ and still got one of the old brick style mobile phones that we were issued back in the early 90's 🤫
@@hollyhamilton3319 you'll get more pics of 312's (and 310's they both look exactly the same) on a rail enthusiast site.... Sorry I don't know of any. Btw I really liked driving 310's and 12's..... Lovely size cabs (plus they had disc brakes as opposed to 302's and 305's that had block brakes. A lot smoother to come to a stand). Sorry that's the nerd coming out of me 🤓
I passed out in ‘90. Good memories of the mess room and playing cards.
Thank you for making this excellent video definitely brings back so many memories,sounds and smells.
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Such a brilliant upload. Thank you Robin👌
7:20 the drivers got a mullet! Great video, happy days. Sure I remember at Shoeburyness the line crosses the road onto MoD land.
It still does, although given the state of the tracks I doubt it's been used for many years.
@@steved8193 I was by that level crossing recently, I’d say it’s no longer used
Each and every one of the EMUs in this video i serviced and repaired. I was a fitter at east ham depot from the early 80s through to 96. I enjoyed every minute working on these beauties. Each one had its own unique charm and character to drive, work on and, i know it sounds strange, smell. I would love to see if any have been preserved and are still working.
From Wikipedia: 'Two driving trailers, 75033 and 75250, which belonged to units 302 201 and 302 227, are preserved at Mangapps Railway Museum near Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex. These units have been repainted into BR overall blue with yellow ends and are still in very good condition, with the destination scrolls still in working order, the seats still in British Rail colours and the Network South East maps still in very good condition. The rest of the fleet has been scrapped since withdrawal in late 1999.'
@robinpinnock2678 Thank you for that great information. I will definitely make my way there to see them the next time I'm in that part of the UK. Would be nice to speak to the people who service the units and take care of them. It's a shame they didn't have the full 4 car units. Obviously, there is no overhead power to run the motor coach, but the motors could have been modified to run freewheel, and I suppose space is limited for two 4 coach units.
I personally do wish those days would come back or be relived in the next life, not for the sake of being a child or being younger again, but for the sake of correcting wrongs. I'm happy about the fact that I knew in the later years that things could easily go wrong in the future. I'm just grateful that I'm young enough to realise that I can still put some things right before it's too late. At least I know that if everything goes even worse in the future, I tried to do whatever I can to prevent it.
Found it very interesting thanks 👍🏻
People opening the doors whilst the train was still in motion - heaven forbid nowadays!
Motley crew indeed. The 1959 bunch are older than the last steam loco. (1960)
I always wondering what that ticking noise was reminded me of. Ticking time bomb
Be good to see a train in nse livery today , I understand arriva Southend have a bus in Southend transport livery
SN66 WHS 'Celebrating 100 years of route 1'
hi great video and great memories, the 302s are just great, part of the fun was a noisy compressor,i remember the 2bils had compressors which were noisy,now only a memory due to clown activity within the govenment
Can't belive they never saved a class 310
@Colin Kingham also mine had a massive soft spot for the 310s there was a cab end used for kids party's at Coventry electric museum but its been moved down south on some preserved railway
Two class 312 driving trailers have been preserved but no 310 vehicles have survived at all sadly think they are at the colne valley railway Essex
@@jasongoulden2938 seen the 312s in Coventry many years ago was in a right sorry state
Don’t worry, silly music stops after about a minute
Loved stepping onto these old heavy weight units proper trains with character unlike the clinical crap they’ve got now it really did end my interest in the modern railways it was like the nail in the coffin for me when they got rid of all the slam doors units everywhere and loco hauled trains alike and the disastrous privatisation that killed off the nostalgia of our railways I used to go out my way to travel on a train but certainly not now with the cramped and claustrophobic conditions
Lovely, when is Part coming out
Link to part two.
czcams.com/video/JtyMKxTtEHc/video.html
Lucky days in London meant getting a few of these before they finished in the late 90s
Tight stop at 1:10 😳
3:03 thats oddly familiar
Whoever disliked hates Southend
Mullet alert at 7.00
I dont know why at the time that the stations colours had more of a theme but today its bland and boring
There was no mistaking the Network SouthEast branding!