@@AJAXHQ Wish I had a place like that near me. I know a place for smash bros like that. The top 5 players in my state for smash go their actually. Its fun to watch. They do some other fighting games as well. I should see if they do multiversus now.
@@00piper18000 yeah and we arent gonna talk about shaggys annoying moves? i fucking hate shaggy players so much id rather fight a bugs or a finn than a shaggy its fucking cancer
I’ve never watched a tournament with announcers that really knows how to hype up the thrill. I commend you and the other one that was also talking for such a fun narration!
I’m a lvl 23 Pajama Finn Enthusiast, and I’ve been looking for super good Finn players to get tips from gameplay, and I have to say man this is SO helpful for me. Thanks so much dude
I'm sorry but I was analyzing the gameplay of this Finn player and just how Finn works in general and I realize he doesn't really take much skill to use. They're both using a controller and based on the attacks that he is using with Finn he is only spinning the right joystick instead of using square or x (depending on the controller) to attack most of the time. My point is is that Finn is a no skill character that is easy to spam with
@@ferrar4879 I'm guessing you are a Finn main who's mad about my comment so we could battle each other if you want?? (I don't play that character but I'm pretty sure I can easily beat you with Finn to prove my point)
@11:48 gsus, if that 2nd teleport had hit he could be comboing shaggy from 11 up to 70 without ground recovery air neutral + air down + air down + ground up + teleport slash + jump + air side (teleport slash missed due to diagonal dodge)
@@luisroman3952 As a Finn player, thats completely reasonable. He definitely needs more nerfs, but thats a great place to start. A kill move with a long lasting hitbox in that wide an area is going to be spammed hard past 0% damage, and you're seeing this already from the frontrunners.
I would def not go as far as not respecting it, it’s still the beta man… but it certainly didn’t feel fair how shaggy’s attacks are hard to connect into combos, like his air neutral feet, meanwhile finn has very low attack cooldowns he lands 1 he’ll land 2/3 extra or more, he whifs then he can easily dodge, very foigiving and unpunishable
love this game but even pro players think the hitboxes are insane 4:13 you can see chavo say something about it to me that's one of the first thing they have to fix
@@Koko-fp2pl i know hes not its just so annoying how strong his kick is sometimes and how dependent they are on it they need to do what they did with Tazz tornado to Shaggys Kick thats it and for the other 2 they need major balancing
@@Koko-fp2pl high hit priority and tricky when you’re a noob at the game but once you learn his moves and wait for punish shaggy can get obliterated high level shaggy are really good imo tho
hmmm maybe fin shouldnt be able to scoop and spike you from the middle of the stage?! maybe just maybe he needs a nerf to his scooping on stage spike that leads into almost instant kills
I have a dumb question- how the fuck do you base ball chuck the gems straight from your backpack 🎒? I know if you “down special” in the air you’ll slowly underhand toss a gem. But how do you THROW a gem like a pro?
Take a shot everytime Batman up specials.. lots of characters have cheese moves, if your movement and positioning is good enough you shouldn’t be getting backpacked more then 2x per game
@@lachlaneft Batman up specials a lot because that is his only kill option. But that is no way near as cheesey as all of Finn. Batman just have his hitbox above but when Finn attacks it dosent even matter which attack he uses as all of his attacks just hits everywhere and have priority over everything
@@maxgunnarsson6506 Not really, I think the problem people have is because he can move and run while charging his neutral attacks. It's not really that cheesy but just a unique advantage since he's the only one who can do that, and that's really the only way he can definitely kill.
@@Ndzly how am i mad ? its just funny because hes finna get fixed, less people are going to play him and hes going to be WAY easier to beat😂 top 10,000 arya stark btw
Watch some scrubby Finn main call this a bad matchup for Finn even though Finn can do everything Shaggy does, but with a sword and no problems against projectiles.
It's because Finn is a sword character with 90% fast moves, fast speed, and backpack killing at 70% off the top He generally has no losing matchups either except for maybe Bugs since he's also broken
@@Greenietheotaku you mean like every other Assassin class character? And the backpack move only kills @ 70 with enough coins, not enough coins and it doesn't even kill at 100% Honestly he's not any different than other assassin's. Only advantage is he can move while charging a hit which is the only thing making him good/unique. And bad matchups? Bugs, Arya, Superman, even shaggy too
Two extremely badly designed and far too strong characters in the finale... don't need any skill, because all abilities can be spammed without being punished decently. Something definitely needs to change.
Nah that point works for shaggy since he got high hit priority but they made a less terrible job than Finn on the hitboxes and mostly once you’re not casual it’s easy to counter shaggy if he overuse the same moves, finn on the other hand is not only having this good priority but also got this broken hitbox and a really good set of tools he got everything for him to be still a good and op character even if they improve hitboxes and make his up special a bit different because I feel like I use it only as a tilt move to be like "ok ima end this quickly " which feels lame because it works against a lot of not bad players and I don’t enjoy it
@@lenarrapeur415 nah lol so many better characters than fin he’s a noob slayer doesn’t work against good players he’s so weak against projectile characters
@@oneiox3950 nah good finn will work around projectiles they literally have built in mechanics for projectile the side special can destroy them and the butt armor give Finn the possibility to tank 3 projectile finn is broken on hitboxes mostly and you can be the best player in the world you would still be annoyed to get fucked by his hit priority and his insanely broken hitbox and his insane recovery
Glad to see both players just having a good time and laughing win or lose.
We are all friends here and just playing to learn and get better. Every loss is an opportunity to learn.
@@AJAXHQ Wish I had a place like that near me. I know a place for smash bros like that. The top 5 players in my state for smash go their actually. Its fun to watch. They do some other fighting games as well. I should see if they do multiversus now.
Fr at the end of the day it's just 2 dudes gaming
love to see both players being good sports and having a good time regardless of winning or losing
1:51 Finn's hitbox moment.
Yeah finn is one of the dirtiest characters. Can't wait for this to get patched
@@00piper18000 Same bro
@@00piper18000 yeah and we arent gonna talk about shaggys annoying moves? i fucking hate shaggy players so much id rather fight a bugs or a finn than a shaggy its fucking cancer
what’s wrong with it?
Bruh that range
Jeez multiverse is giving this channel the boost it has deserved, great to see :)
Yeah multiversus is awesome!
Glad it's doin so well
Love this game and community
I’ve never watched a tournament with announcers that really knows how to hype up the thrill. I commend you and the other one that was also talking for such a fun narration!
Absolutely loving these videos and am hoping one day we get to se ajaxx step out of the commentators seat and play some Batman in the tournament
I'm planning to just have to run stream for now. Once I got people trained on how to cast the game well ill play in some brackets
Ok but why did chavo go with those perks? He rarely made much use of those besides triple jump
This is exactly how a fight between these two would actually happen
How are there tourneys already.
Time stamp for nice Finn combo 4:45
I’m a lvl 23 Pajama Finn Enthusiast, and I’ve been looking for super good Finn players to get tips from gameplay, and I have to say man this is SO helpful for me. Thanks so much dude
I'm sorry but I was analyzing the gameplay of this Finn player and just how Finn works in general and I realize he doesn't really take much skill to use. They're both using a controller and based on the attacks that he is using with Finn he is only spinning the right joystick instead of using square or x (depending on the controller) to attack most of the time. My point is is that Finn is a no skill character that is easy to spam with
@@king_riku554 mad cause bad
@@ferrar4879 I'm guessing you are a Finn main who's mad about my comment so we could battle each other if you want?? (I don't play that character but I'm pretty sure I can easily beat you with Finn to prove my point)
@@king_riku554 I just started playing the game, do you wanna battle me?
Spam your square or X button
Awesome stuff
Mans was smoking that Shaggy pack💨
@11:48 gsus, if that 2nd teleport had hit he could be comboing shaggy from 11 up to 70 without ground recovery
air neutral + air down + air down + ground up + teleport slash + jump + air side (teleport slash missed due to diagonal dodge)
man 1v1's are so much better than the 2v2 tournaments imo
easier to understand what's going on too.
Yep
LETS GO SICE
Every time Finn does his up special, he should loose some coins
He literally does.
@@JerryLeeHowell2 even when he miss the attack
@@luisroman3952 As a Finn player, thats completely reasonable. He definitely needs more nerfs, but thats a great place to start. A kill move with a long lasting hitbox in that wide an area is going to be spammed hard past 0% damage, and you're seeing this already from the frontrunners.
@@luisroman3952 when you miss the backpack now you lose one coin, and you also lose one coin for every successful hit you make with the backpack
Didn’t this game jjjjust come out.
Who are these guys? I want to sub to them seeing how much fun they had playing
Hey I’m the shaggy would appreciate the support 😀 czcams.com/video/P766HsHyw4E/video.html
The twitters are @fpchavo and @sice203
8:54 uncle shagsworthy LMFAO!!!
The bag use 4 times in 5 seconds was very impressive gameplay
Finn mains be like:
Yah hands down Finn and superman players be like up special, side special, up special, side special
you’re mindless
Lol crybaby rager crying about finn. Get sum pussy then u wont rage about finn
@@zachpfund7785 bruh if they are not using the down special they are weak superman
Is Chavo going to evo?
Yessir
Yup him and Zoo will be teaming
@@AJAXHQ omg evo for multiverse is stackedddddd I can’t wait to watch it
When is evo?
11:48 Finn combo
God I hate playing against Fin, He is so fucking OP in the right hands.
take a shot every time someone whines about finn
Don't want alcohol poisoning.
Thanks to your comment, I just died to alcohol poisoning :)
It’s just back pack otherwise people just need to get good and learn the mu. If he gets nerfed cool I guess but don’t nerf him to the ground.
Lol crybaby rager crying about finn. Get sum pussy then u wont rage about finn
@@silasssbu5634 his hit boxes are literally broken brother lmfao. Nothing to do with matchups.
Fins broken i think everyone who uses him is getting carryed.
Same goes for Shaggy so I guess theyre on even ground
shaggy is easy but he is honest
Lol superman beats out finn without breaking a sweat
He may winn with Finn, but I’m sure he knows nobody respects it.
Finn mains are more fatherless than batman
But he's actually really good.. I mean its not like any other Finn at the tournament could beat him
You crybaby gamers get no bitches lmfao💀🤣🤣
I would def not go as far as not respecting it, it’s still the beta man…
but it certainly didn’t feel fair how shaggy’s attacks are hard to connect into combos, like his air neutral feet, meanwhile finn has very low attack cooldowns he lands 1 he’ll land 2/3 extra or more, he whifs then he can easily dodge, very foigiving and unpunishable
I dont think he cares 🤣🤣
love this game but even pro players think the hitboxes are insane 4:13 you can see chavo say something about it to me that's one of the first thing they have to fix
Yeah I agree
they said on twitter that fin hitbox nerf is coming soon i think
Can they balance Jake Finn and Shaggy now
Shaggy isn't that crazy
@@Koko-fp2pl i know hes not its just so annoying how strong his kick is sometimes and how dependent they are on it they need to do what they did with Tazz tornado to Shaggys Kick thats it and for the other 2 they need major balancing
@@Koko-fp2pl high hit priority and tricky when you’re a noob at the game but once you learn his moves and wait for punish shaggy can get obliterated high level shaggy are really good imo tho
@@Koko-fp2pl when I say tricky when you start playing I meant tricky to face when you’re not on point with his moves
hmmm maybe fin shouldnt be able to scoop and spike you from the middle of the stage?! maybe just maybe he needs a nerf to his scooping on stage spike that leads into almost instant kills
😃
sucks that finn champ diffs shaggy so hard
I have a dumb question- how the fuck do you base ball chuck the gems straight from your backpack 🎒?
I know if you “down special” in the air you’ll slowly underhand toss a gem. But how do you THROW a gem like a pro?
I think he's grabbing it out of the air and throwing it immediately after down specialing
@@mrbojangles010 I know that he grabs it out of the air but I’m not sure how ?
@@zachtalkssmack4470 you have to hit the pick up item button as soon as you down special before it gets too far away
@@mrbojangles010 what’s the pick up item button? Just the regular attack button?
@@zachtalkssmack4470 there's a different button, you can check your controls but it is default "h" on keyboard
Chavo is so cute lol
Take a shot everytime finn "bags"
Take a shot everytime Batman up specials.. lots of characters have cheese moves, if your movement and positioning is good enough you shouldn’t be getting backpacked more then 2x per game
Taz is my secondary so take a shot every time a Taz player uses his Tornado.
Take a shot every time Arya misses side special
@@lachlaneft Batman up specials a lot because that is his only kill option. But that is no way near as cheesey as all of Finn. Batman just have his hitbox above but when Finn attacks it dosent even matter which attack he uses as all of his attacks just hits everywhere and have priority over everything
@@maxgunnarsson6506 Not really, I think the problem people have is because he can move and run while charging his neutral attacks. It's not really that cheesy but just a unique advantage since he's the only one who can do that, and that's really the only way he can definitely kill.
So many undeserved prio hits. Broken champ
Lol crybaby rager crying about finn. Get sum pussy then u wont rage about finn
Although Finn is a broken scrubby character, Chavo is extremely solid
Extremely solid, with a broken scrubby character 😕
Lol crybaby rager crying about finn. Get sum pussy then u wont rage about finn
@@battlememesbyomari1979 You wouldn't be good even with the broken character
Finn is overpowered
Lol crybaby rager crying about finn. Get sum pussy then u wont rage about finn
Yall Fin mains like pp fr
when finn gets hard nerfed hes doomed😂
Lol crybaby rager crying about finn. Get sum pussy then u wont rage about finn
awww poor buddy is mad because he’s bad at the game
I doubt it, he's an assassin class and they're all fast
@@saulgoodmansfingerr8527 I think they're talking about his broken ass hitbox like shown at 4:05
@@Ndzly how am i mad ? its just funny because hes finna get fixed, less people are going to play him and hes going to be WAY easier to beat😂 top 10,000 arya stark btw
Definition of “I’m carried by this char”
Lol crybaby rager crying about finn. Get sum pussy then u wont rage about finn
Pussy, you wouldn't win 1 out of 10 games against him If he picked any other character
Watch some scrubby Finn main call this a bad matchup for Finn even though Finn can do everything Shaggy does, but with a sword and no problems against projectiles.
Everyone knows Finn is broken even Finn mains
I'll be real, I don't see in anyway how Finn is broken, when there are multiple more annoying characters than him
It's because Finn is a sword character with 90% fast moves, fast speed, and backpack killing at 70% off the top
He generally has no losing matchups either except for maybe Bugs since he's also broken
@@Greenietheotaku you mean like every other Assassin class character? And the backpack move only kills @ 70 with enough coins, not enough coins and it doesn't even kill at 100% Honestly he's not any different than other assassin's. Only advantage is he can move while charging a hit which is the only thing making him good/unique. And bad matchups? Bugs, Arya, Superman, even shaggy too
Lol crybaby rager crying about finn. Get sum pussy then u wont rage about finn
At 2:45 he was DEVOTED to spike him 🤣🤣
Lol yeah you get caught slipping off stage against Finn it’s a wrap
Nerf Finn! can’t wait until the full roster drops and we see who really has skill
Full roster will not drop in next 5 years. Its a fighting game, they gonna keep releasing new characters every month or 2 for next 5 years or so
What would you nerf on finn?
Lol crybaby rager crying about finn. Get sum pussy then u wont rage about finn
@@ogl3eastmode948 hitboxes
@@PainRisk That's it?
Can't wait for these finn hate comments to disappear after evo when Chavo was the only one left after top 16 and got 9th as a finn batman duo AMIRITE?
I mean they still be there, and 2v2 is a lot different then 1’s Finn is alot more manageable in 2’s
@@sicemvs think you're missing the point though.... lol
And this is why I don’t like Finn
Lol crybaby rager crying about finn. Get sum pussy then u wont rage about finn
@Donomite cope.
Finn 2 op lmao
Finn too easy to use
Lol crybaby rager crying about finn. Get sum pussy then u wont rage about finn
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Two extremely badly designed and far too strong characters in the finale... don't need any skill, because all abilities can be spammed without being punished decently. Something definitely needs to change.
dude whom is playin shaggy? do better fam
That’s the goal 🤣
anyone who says finn is broken is just a super casual at this game
sorry people are upsetting you, your main is not OP and you are good at this game!!!!
Nah that point works for shaggy since he got high hit priority but they made a less terrible job than Finn on the hitboxes and mostly once you’re not casual it’s easy to counter shaggy if he overuse the same moves, finn on the other hand is not only having this good priority but also got this broken hitbox and a really good set of tools he got everything for him to be still a good and op character even if they improve hitboxes and make his up special a bit different because I feel like I use it only as a tilt move to be like "ok ima end this quickly " which feels lame because it works against a lot of not bad players and I don’t enjoy it
@@lenarrapeur415 nah lol so many better characters than fin he’s a noob slayer doesn’t work against good players he’s so weak against projectile characters
@@oneiox3950 nah good finn will work around projectiles they literally have built in mechanics for projectile the side special can destroy them and the butt armor give Finn the possibility to tank 3 projectile finn is broken on hitboxes mostly and you can be the best player in the world you would still be annoyed to get fucked by his hit priority and his insanely broken hitbox and his insane recovery
Most of the player base plays casually so wouldn't it make since?🤷