What men find most attractive in women | Jordan Peterson and Louise Perry

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  • @julijopeterson7096
    @julijopeterson7096 Před rokem +3024

    What a woman can say is, “I’m sorry. You’re not my husband.” And then leave it at that.

    • @anothernamlesscommenter352
      @anothernamlesscommenter352 Před rokem +92

      Or thier not interested plain and simple

    • @julijopeterson7096
      @julijopeterson7096 Před rokem +41

      @@anothernamlesscommenter352 Yes, that could be an answer too.

    • @bartsanders1553
      @bartsanders1553 Před rokem +13

      That's our kryptonite, isn't it.

    • @hotstitch1
      @hotstitch1 Před rokem +9

      Superb.

    • @Draber2b
      @Draber2b Před rokem +36

      It's a good response.
      Who would care about the type of guy who responds something cheese like: "Let's not be old-fashioned, we can stay friends 😏"
      A high quality man can take it as a *no*

  • @RaraAviss
    @RaraAviss Před rokem +5355

    You know what is atractive to me as a women? Men who are not testing the thickness of my bounderies

    • @angelafoster5071
      @angelafoster5071 Před rokem +274

      How then will they know you’re capable of loyalty?

    • @RaraAviss
      @RaraAviss Před rokem +253

      @@angelafoster5071 I guess they will need to trust me with that

    • @ezziba8240
      @ezziba8240 Před rokem +77

      ​@angelafoster5071 That's a good question, actually.
      Though as a Christian, I wouldn't keep dating a man who asked me.

    • @cjgodley1776
      @cjgodley1776 Před rokem +166

      Ah, you know that's not true.
      Women want to be wanted. We just don't want to be over-ridden (ie - assaulted).
      And a strong woman is capable of handling in a subtle way, unwanted advances.

    • @angelafoster5071
      @angelafoster5071 Před rokem +43

      @@ezziba8240 I’m Christian too, but we have a system ingrained in loyalty, most aren’t Christian so sadly these are the standards they have to live by. Grim world and I’m glad I’m not of it.
      Christians should test other boundaries, though.

  • @carolwilliams5337
    @carolwilliams5337 Před rokem +1090

    As a Christian, I really had no problem saying no. I did get into dangerous situations because I was naive and thought they cared about ME. Ha! I met a man who was as convinced as I was to wait until marriage. Been married 42 years today!

    • @sparklessconnectionselectrical
      @sparklessconnectionselectrical Před rokem +8

      40 years ago most were sleeping around as if there was no tomorrow. The few who didn't would barely fein to return a hello. That two who held these values would meet was, still is, a true miracle.

    • @ezziba8240
      @ezziba8240 Před rokem +51

      It's funny how most people call this a miracle (I suppose it is!), but in Christian families, this is commonplace. At least for those who know Jesus.
      Many of my family members remained celibate until marriage. All of those stayed married. And this doesn't include my church family.
      I'm holding myself to what God says is right and doing the same.

    • @dreamscape405
      @dreamscape405 Před rokem +2

      ​@@ezziba8240 No, RELIGIOUS people obey rules, it's got nothing to do with Jesus.

    • @ezziba8240
      @ezziba8240 Před rokem +24

      ​@@dreamscape405 That can be true too. Religion and rules can only do so much. It shames people into pretending.
      True religion is selfless. It strives to keep itself devoted to loving others. It humbles itself and serves the needy.
      When you follow Jesus, there are only two rules: Love God with all your heart, soul, and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself.

    • @debrapaulino918
      @debrapaulino918 Před rokem +7

      ​@@dreamscape405 Not exactly true.

  • @b.l70
    @b.l70 Před rokem +1220

    I think this only applies to sophisticated men.
    Immature boys stuck in adult bodies tend to throw tantrums/silent treatment when you say "no" to them.

    • @ezziba8240
      @ezziba8240 Před rokem +47

      Then again, saying no might help them grow up, too.
      Though it would end any relationship with me.

    • @mitsealb3609
      @mitsealb3609 Před rokem +7

      @@ezziba8240 That’s the point, too.

    • @AC-mp7cx
      @AC-mp7cx Před rokem +4

      no it really just depends. On what the "no" is to

    • @ezziba8240
      @ezziba8240 Před rokem +21

      ​@@mitsealb3609 Yeah, exactly. That's how people learn.
      If an adult says no to a kid, tantrums won't help unless the adult is an enabler.

    • @mitsealb3609
      @mitsealb3609 Před rokem

      @@ezziba8240 Yeah. It’s similar but not the same.

  • @gabrielleglenn4307
    @gabrielleglenn4307 Před rokem +175

    I see a lot of comments on how a woman can say no and yada yada and how that’s attractive but I’ll tell you nothing was more attractive to me than my husband after our first kiss telling me he will always respect me. Then letting me know he wants to wait until marriage, which I had also wanted that. We did wait and we have an incredibly strong and wonderful marriage. Self control and commitment, wonderful qualities for both men and women.

    • @Moiselle555
      @Moiselle555 Před rokem +7

      But in this day and age that we live in, majority of the men don't wait till marriage, doesn't make them bad men

    • @SweetAnna441
      @SweetAnna441 Před rokem +1

      Agreed 100%

    • @gabrielleglenn4307
      @gabrielleglenn4307 Před rokem +5

      @@Moiselle555 hi! I agreed it absolutely does not make someone unworthy for marriage if they have had sex. I should clarify my husband nor myself were virgins when we met but we had made the commitment prior to meeting that we wanted to wait from then on. We both believed it was the right thing to do. So I would encourage those who have had sex before marriage to surrender that and wait from now on. It’s a wonderful thing to do and has produce a lot of blessings in our marriage.

    • @unapologeticanti-feminist3205
      @unapologeticanti-feminist3205 Před 11 měsíci

      I think men and women test each other in different ways and about different things because both tend to value different things in each other especially for a long term partner. So men are attracted to the woman who can say no to sex, while still wanting to test it and sometimes are okay with sampling what a woman is freely offering. Women also want to test men usually for alpha qualities, they want to see if he is capable of telling her no (to likely anything, even just confidently disagreeing with her), dominating over other men (intellectually, financially, or physically) and her in those same respects (not abusively of course, I mean through a hypergamous lens). I've seen many women admit to acting out, trying to stir up an argument just to see if her man would shut her down, contain the chaos. I'm sure this annoys and confounds a lot of men. And of course, there are many women perfectly willing to use the money a man is willing to spend on her because he is freely offering it, even though she has no intention of being in a relationship with him. Men and women will always test for different things to each other because they value different things.

    • @saltycat662
      @saltycat662 Před 10 dny

      That's because you married a good, Godly man. Majority of men are lustful, hedonistic heathens.

  • @salihashahid9526
    @salihashahid9526 Před rokem +865

    If a man is testing the thickness of my boundaries he is not a man he is a predator and he’s trying to trespass. A real man respects a woman’s no.

    • @MsHenry147
      @MsHenry147 Před rokem +19

      it kinda reminds me of The Notebook thought that guy went to the ends of the earth to get that girl and she eventually gave in, probably because she realised he was really committed. I think when a man tries and then tries again it is seen as a sign of actual interest not based on just the whim of the moment.

    • @angelafoster5071
      @angelafoster5071 Před rokem +36

      Everyone tests boundaries. It’s how’s you discern high value/ respect people.

    • @salihashahid9526
      @salihashahid9526 Před rokem +12

      @@MsHenry147 so do you think a man trying hard is gonna change a woman's no to a yes? what if he is not her type and she feels absolutely nothing for him? its not a sign of his interest, it's a sign of disrespect.

    • @thecreativebusiness1316
      @thecreativebusiness1316 Před rokem +20

      @@angelafoster5071 nope. Respectful people RESPECT BOUNDARIES, PREDATORS TEST THEM.

    • @mariamjibrin7260
      @mariamjibrin7260 Před rokem +6

      No. if your no is weak. you are not a real woman. A man can't and shouldn't just accept your words because you say so. your no might be a lie now adays

  • @lexi_starbuck
    @lexi_starbuck Před rokem +133

    About 6 months into my relationship with my partner we spoke about sex and he expressed that he was ready to make that commitment. I said I wasn’t and he simply told me that it was not an issue and that instead of asking me or bringing it up constantly in the future, it would just be up to me. I think that’s important. Not that women say no and that men constantly test their boundaries, but that 2 people who love each other communicate and neither pressure the other.

    • @ac-jn1iq
      @ac-jn1iq Před rokem +1

      Agree

    • @B.I.-EIO_macdonald9786
      @B.I.-EIO_macdonald9786 Před rokem +7

      That behavior in a man actually turns me ON, and i wish id find one like that. But they’re unicorns

    • @B.I.-EIO_macdonald9786
      @B.I.-EIO_macdonald9786 Před rokem

      @Sultana Banana wow that’s a BROAD unfounded statement

    • @B.I.-EIO_macdonald9786
      @B.I.-EIO_macdonald9786 Před rokem

      @Sultana Banana im grateful im not forced to marry someone who only cares about my dowry

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 Před 7 měsíci

      So in a nutshell you said NO, he was convinced that you're the type of person who says NO in such situations, and then that triggered respect in him, for you...and he married you?
      For one night stands, men want women who are "easy" (doesn't express no).
      for long term, men want women who said no to everyone else in the past and in the future as well. You passed this test.

  • @NotAfraidToQuestionThings
    @NotAfraidToQuestionThings Před rokem +334

    The single biggest predictor of success is the ability to postpone reward.
    The biggest prize is a beautiful woman with plenty of admirers who is able to just say no to all of them until the right one comes along.
    It's not "sleeping with every person I like because it feels good and I don't care what anyone thinks".

    • @7PlayingWithFire7
      @7PlayingWithFire7 Před rokem

      Think your comment says a lot more about you than about women.
      You can have personal preferences, but what your lot don't understand is that you are forcing your personal preferences on to other people, demanding them to act the way you want; that's called authoritarianism. That's what women in muslim countries face.
      People who say this like you say seem to have a lot in common with em. Funnily enough.

    • @elliotpolanco159
      @elliotpolanco159 Před rokem +14

      Easiest way for her to stay permanently single

    • @sonofhibbs4425
      @sonofhibbs4425 Před rokem

      I don’t know who you are OP, but as a pre menopausal woman who did just that and is still single,..I DO NOT recommend any young woman thinking that’s actually going to work. Men might be attracted, highly, but they want the whore more. You will be single for the rest of your life and die a virgin. They will not value you or wait for you.

    • @SJ-xg3rv
      @SJ-xg3rv Před rokem +45

      @@elliotpolanco159 Worked for me. Very happily married 12 years now. I waited for a man with self control & integrity and a kind nature. I was also appreciative and gracious with men who were interested, as I felt fortunate to have their interest. I think they appreciated that.

    • @Portia620
      @Portia620 Před rokem +8

      Do you know where these classy men are that want a woman like that? I had so many guys wanting to meet me and every single one it just didn’t really lead to anything or somethings felt off. The best ones are when they just come on out and ask if you wanna be a sex slave or something I’m like what??? 😂. I was married to the same person and we started dating in our teens late teens. I figured I’d get married one more time possibly but from what I’ve seen out there no thank you this world’s trash.

  • @garylundberg2906
    @garylundberg2906 Před rokem +179

    A woman who has a good heart is more valuable than anything else that they have to offer.

    • @lede1810
      @lede1810 Před rokem +28

      Yes, but there are loads of women with golden hearts who are single and unable to find a suitable partner. Bottom line is that most men first need to be physically attracted to a woman before they inquire about the kind of heart she carries 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @ARS-fn6px
      @ARS-fn6px Před rokem +13

      Not to a lot of men, they just see that as weakness and use her.

    • @ErinThePsychicWitch
      @ErinThePsychicWitch Před rokem +8

      Maybe to you but a lot of people see a good heart and think “snack time”

    • @nstar1372
      @nstar1372 Před rokem +7

      A good heart with standards & boundaries* I hope.

    • @Denneeyboy
      @Denneeyboy Před rokem +7

      @@ARS-fn6px wicked men will manipulate women with good heart, wicked women will manipulate men with good heart. Thats how it is.

  • @paulaa.6833
    @paulaa.6833 Před rokem +119

    A quality man would never compromise a woman by asking for unprotected sex.

    • @sososanchez3512
      @sososanchez3512 Před rokem +6

      Dam RIGHT!!!!

    • @alessandrodestro8877
      @alessandrodestro8877 Před rokem +3

      paula please leave the platform..

    • @alessandrodestro8877
      @alessandrodestro8877 Před rokem

      I had girl asking me for unprotected sex every time so what... why are you judging other people you are so insensitive women like you should end up alone and fat

    • @seignee
      @seignee Před rokem +4

      ​@@alessandrodestro8877 why cos shes right? lol

    • @immanuelcunt7296
      @immanuelcunt7296 Před rokem +1

      How does it compromise her to ask? It's only compromising if she acquiesced.

  • @popcorn58138
    @popcorn58138 Před rokem +51

    I am of the opinion, it is one thing to get caught up in the moment and initially test a boundary, but if you have made your boundaries clear, and someone keeps insistently testing that boundary and trying to cross it, they don’t respect you. This for me applies to friendships as well, not just romantic relationships.

    • @jaflaf3201
      @jaflaf3201 Před rokem +1

      Or maybe you just don't want ro be tested coz deep down you don't feel very much like you will pass

    • @heyhey439
      @heyhey439 Před rokem +2

      @@jaflaf3201 No means no. Nobody owes you anything :)

    • @jaflaf3201
      @jaflaf3201 Před rokem

      @hey hey is that what you tell yourself sado

    • @heyhey439
      @heyhey439 Před rokem

      @@jaflaf3201 Yes because I'm not a creep ass male. You could try it some time.

    • @jaflaf3201
      @jaflaf3201 Před rokem

      @hey hey generalisation is a fine thing. It's especially fine when this prejudice leads to discriminating views. Topped off by indignity and inhumanity all in the name of uneducation and sedation

  • @rhdez11
    @rhdez11 Před rokem +94

    I'd say that the most attractive thing to an honest decent man would be to be with an honest decent attractive woman who has self respect and loves and respects her man. I'm just traditional so that's that.

  • @Sandrica011BG
    @Sandrica011BG Před rokem +38

    No is a full sentence

  • @immanuelcan3310
    @immanuelcan3310 Před rokem +282

    That's because the boundary tells young men, "There's a real prize behind that boundary, something you ought to see if you can come up to." And that excites them, and gets them going in projects to impress the sophisticated woman. And that's actually very interesting to men, and a good incentive for them to come up to their best, as well.

    • @lepotdefleur9906
      @lepotdefleur9906 Před rokem +20

      There is also the forbidden fruit angle.

    • @steph6109
      @steph6109 Před rokem

      Men are dumb. They want "high status " women that don't want them and are willing to bet the house to see if they can change her mind

    • @rachangel1951
      @rachangel1951 Před rokem +13

      the response i usually receive from a man when i say n is his absence. few men rise up with nothing more than a trouser tent.

    • @thecreativebusiness1316
      @thecreativebusiness1316 Před rokem +25

      I'm afraid we all have the same things between our legs, there's no "special reward ". One should wait because it's unhealthy to sleep with strangers, for both men and women. I have strict boundaries about sex because I need to feel safe around someone and make sure he likes me for me, not just for sex.

    • @judithanntoole8900
      @judithanntoole8900 Před rokem +5

      @@rachangel1951 Then he is truly not worthy of you. Don’t be afraid to say no if you are not ready.

  • @hkends8983
    @hkends8983 Před rokem +33

    I met a guy at university in my first year and we made friends. He tried a few times and I would set the boundaries. I was only interested in being friends. I’d accept hang-outs that involved causal things, grabbing a beer or studying with a group of people. That kind of thing. I wouldn’t accept anything that could be misconstrued as a date. Anyway, awhile ago he was asking advice for asking out a girl that we both knew. I knew she wasn’t interested but obviously didn’t want to straight up tell him that, that was her job. He would text her constantly and she would always make excuses not to go on dates, take days to reply to him, etc, but she was always really nice about it. So nice in fact, that he still believed he had a chance. Eventually I just thought I’d save him the pain of waiting for a girl that clearly wasn’t interested, I told him that she was probably just too damn nice to hurt his feelings with a loud and clear NO. He told me he “likes that she’s so passive” 🤮 and that’s the kind of girl he wants to marry. I had to stop being friends with him

  • @adawilso
    @adawilso Před rokem +125

    How flattering is it when you're wife has no fear of starting a family you! That's one way of measuring yourself as a man. By her belief in you.

    • @ezziba8240
      @ezziba8240 Před rokem +7

      100%!

    • @Adennative
      @Adennative Před rokem +3

      Love that

    • @reddawn8230
      @reddawn8230 Před rokem +4

      Brilliant point! ❤️

    • @NsTheName
      @NsTheName Před rokem +1

      Beautifully put. I think it's stunning when both partners respect each other that much.

  • @MisyeDiVre
    @MisyeDiVre Před rokem +278

    "Men will do anything to test the thiccness". 👀
    - Dr. Jordan B Peterson

  • @sammygoodnight
    @sammygoodnight Před rokem +99

    Not just the pill, but loss of traditional Christian practice made it more and more difficult to say no. In the past, 'I might get pregnant,' and 'I'm saving myself for marriage' were both powerful tool available to women. Now all they've got is 'I don't really like you,' which is mean and requires a certain cold-heartedness to be able to say.

    • @emilyash2120
      @emilyash2120 Před rokem +23

      If men understood just how often women get hit on they would find an “I’m not interested” to be kind. She’s not wasting their time or money leading them on.

    • @sammygoodnight
      @sammygoodnight Před rokem +3

      @@emilyash2120 That's a good point, although in the sting of rejection a lot of men probably miss it.

    • @savagecomments9195
      @savagecomments9195 Před rokem +5

      Just say “I don’t wanna lead you on” “it’ll be bad for our relationship if we continue”

    • @7PlayingWithFire7
      @7PlayingWithFire7 Před rokem +23

      Its cold hearted to say "I don't want to do this physical intimate activity with you"? But "I'm saving myself" isn't? It's no different. Really dumb line of thinking, self abusive at best. Normalize saying no, and normalize that you can't just ask people for sex. Nobody ever says it's the guy who should know his place and not ask for the inappropriate, why is that?

    • @thecreativebusiness1316
      @thecreativebusiness1316 Před rokem

      @@7PlayingWithFire7 because men are cavemen hunters, unable to control themselves, while women are supposed to be the keepers of society's "virtue" and are therefore to blame if they get raped, having clearly provoked tye rapist, failing at their virtuous purpose of "gatekeepers of sex". Btw, Peterson's daughter hot pregnant before marriage, so I'd say she's no sophisticated woman, according to his standards.

  • @bhaktilata
    @bhaktilata Před rokem +192

    I made it crystal clear that my first kiss would be my husband, and the day that was guaranteed would be our actual wedding day. My now-husband only had the deepest respect for that boundary and ultimately for me for the nearly 3 years we dated. A high value man needs no excuses or fears about pregnancy, they just need to see a woman who believes in herself and holds high standards. Not to keep a man away or force him to jump through hoops, but to establish a standard of respect and regard. A man is literally willing to die for a woman who reserves herself for him. And yes, we kissed on our wedding day.

  • @joniatoms9798
    @joniatoms9798 Před rokem +372

    You can still say no, I don’t want soul ties, or STDs, or the chance of a pregnancy, I say no every day lol

    • @nadheeramotsau5810
      @nadheeramotsau5810 Před rokem +4

      👏👏👏 true

    • @sunongral5605
      @sunongral5605 Před rokem +11

      Easy when you're a mature adult, not when you're a troubled teenager or young adult. The pill made it easier for the demon of codependancy to rise and make us reluctantly agree to the terms of feeling united with another, even for a fleeting moment.

    • @RealHomeRecording
      @RealHomeRecording Před rokem +4

      Soul ties?

    • @julijopeterson7096
      @julijopeterson7096 Před rokem +10

      This is definitely something to think about. What are soul ties? I heard this on another cite & I hope I can repeat this correctly. The Bible says when you have sex with someone you become one. That means spiritually. So your spiritualities blend to be the same in each of you. So went you have one night stands is when this is the worst because you don’t really know what the spirituality is of the one you were just with. So I think this is pretty close to what I heard. But this is really scary. What happens if one in the couple came from a family involved in the occult? Or in another couple where someone was incestualized by their father. Or maybe there’s someone with addiction, abuse, narcissism, suicide, birth defects, cancer ect.. It kindof makes you think doesn’t it? So suppose you aren’t even aware of what soul tie’s are and there’s a baby involved? Now you really start to think & things really get scarier. The baby’s born from the mother, is one with her spiritually but suppose the mother is a prostitute? This means the baby has it all. Mind blowing isn’t it? But here’s the thing. We all have this in our bodies in one way or another because we have descendent’s that go back years. Alcoholism is like that but I think they say it skips a generation. It’s genetic. Diseases are like that like cancer. When a doctor says you have something that’s genetic it’s really a soul tie but they just don’t teach it that way in medical school so the doctor calls it a genetic condition. Soul ties can also be broken off. There’s books that tell you how to do this. You can also break those genetic medical conditions doctors tell you about. You can pray those away too & there’s lots of books out there that can tell you how to do that also. Hope this is helpful.

    • @wishwarrior8647
      @wishwarrior8647 Před rokem

      S E X : Sacred Energy Xchange
      Understand that when you are laying down with someone who is not all there mentally, and emotionally you're taking on their demons as well. It's so powerful whether you want to believe it or not. Be careful who you give yourself to. Same goes for people you surround yourself with, people you let into your home etc. We are beings moved and impacted by energy. Pay close attention to when you are around negative people, if feels heavy and their actions will absorb your good energy until you feel stuck, become angry and depressed because of the low vibrations. Also, having low vibrations can attract evil spirits because they feed on it when you are frustrated, upset, lonely and very sad. We can feel these emotions but not let them control our daily life. On the contrary if you are around positive people or be positive ourselves the vibe and your mood is very light with high vibrations which attracts good feelings and events. Energy transfer is real and more serious than we think. Please be cautious on who you share your life with. Family members, friends or your significant other may have toxic traits that will impact negatively your being from inside out, even more so strangers. Be mindful, it's real. I've been through this too many times in the past. My life changed positively when I learned what self love, self care, energy transfers and boundaries are. You are a human of high value, please live your life accordingly, do not give yourself away as a discounted item to be consumed by energy absorbers.

  • @toastedcoconutmarsh
    @toastedcoconutmarsh Před rokem +16

    My mother and I were just talking about this issue. I was brought up in a culture (raised as a Baptist in the south) that taught girls it was their job to set up the boundaries when it comes to sex because men can't control themselves. Yes, a woman should be able to say no. But it is also a man's job as the leader and protector to lead a woman out of temptation, not lead her into it for the purpose of testing her boundaries. Women would more naturally fall into a role of respecting the man they are with if he proved that he was trustworthy, leading her in a Godly way and after her respect, not playing silly games like this.

    • @ilikepancakes2368
      @ilikepancakes2368 Před 8 měsíci

      Thing is men want sex. We are not going to waste years without it if we can get it somewhere else.

  • @chrome6570
    @chrome6570 Před rokem +110

    The thing is we think we have to have a good reason to say no. But if we feel like saying no, we should just say it and leave it at that, without justifying it in order to make sure the other person does'nt feel hurt

    • @yolandacastillo-newsome2697
      @yolandacastillo-newsome2697 Před rokem +2

      Exactly!!

    • @NechamaGluck
      @NechamaGluck Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yes. I am very confused as to why anyone, man or woman, would feel compelled to need provide a "reason" as to why they don't want to literally meld their body with another humans body. It's literally the most intimate you can get with another person on this earth physically. Not wanting to IS the reason.

  • @susan7414
    @susan7414 Před rokem +69

    It’s better to be alone than chase a man that’s just not that into you. Even if it takes years ❤

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 Před 7 měsíci

      I guarantee you, for every one man that's no that in to you, there's 100 others that are like the attention seeking doggies that you're asking for.

    • @user-od4yl3rf4n
      @user-od4yl3rf4n Před 4 měsíci +1

      Sadly, women don't have years to wait. They have to know this stuff before they ran out of eggs

  • @Ana_1980
    @Ana_1980 Před rokem +1165

    I would sincerely love to know where Peterson finds these men who want decent women.
    I'm in my 40s and 99% of the men I meet are okay with promiscuous behavior. In the sense that, when asked if they are looking for a serious relationship or some fun, they say they're opet to both.
    Which, to me says they are not a suitable partner because they're attracted to loose women. And since I am not attracted to loose men, I don't accept a second date.
    The vast majority of men are okay with pornography and promiscuity. Very few are not. This man should start a dating app or site and then have people participate in answering about their experiences when dating on said app.
    This is one of the first questions I ask a potential partner and I seldom receive a reply that states he is not okay with casual fun.
    I've been celibate for 8 years now and have pretty much given up on finding a partner, at least for the foreseeable future. I was never promiscuous and never liked men who were. It cut down my options substantially but I can't give my heart to someone who doesn't share my values.
    Good luck to everyone searching for a meaningful relationship and God bless!

    • @sarahd1706
      @sarahd1706 Před rokem +165

      I hear you. I’m in my 40s & a virgin who has always wanted to have a family. I have had offers for marriage from men who claim to be celibate (from my same religion), but I don’t find men attractive who use pornography, which means I don’t find most men attractive. Even if you think no one knows what you do, you can’t hide what you rádiate & the consequences (like how it affects how you act & treat people).
      Women want men with equal standards.

    • @sugarspice7768
      @sugarspice7768 Před rokem +92

      I'm sorry to hear that. I think a lot of it does have to do with age. Most good men who stay pure get married really young. But there is some good men still out there. My single friend met them through church, friends, and finally met her now husband on a chess app of all places.

    • @chellemi01
      @chellemi01 Před rokem +96

      @@sarahd1706 My god Sarah. I am now in my late 40's. Still single. Just like you, still a virgin. I just get turned off by men who tell me what to do with my body. They don't value PURITY. It's okay, at least I don't have any problem with regards to romantic love or relationship. :)

    • @KD400_
      @KD400_ Před rokem +57

      ​@@sugarspice7768 men want younger women for biological reasons. Age is definitely important

    • @KD400_
      @KD400_ Před rokem +61

      U guys r unicorns. Most modern women sleep around and r not wife material.

  • @trupinys1979
    @trupinys1979 Před rokem +10

    Any man who "tests the thickness of boundaries" and is hypnotized by a woman's ability to say "no", will immediately start testing boundaries of other women, as soon as this one lets down her guard and opens up to him. To hell with that. A woman needs a man who's psychologically mature and has emotional empathy. Everything else is a matter of personal preference and taste. Don't let any jordan peterson on social media or anywhere else convince you otherwise.

  • @marikabezuidenhout1659
    @marikabezuidenhout1659 Před rokem +9

    The pill must not be the reason, your inner core must be the reason.

  • @speteydog2260
    @speteydog2260 Před rokem +147

    Life is very complicated. That’s all I have to say. When I was younger it was kind of expected for you to have a few experiences before you got married. There is never a set answer. I am in my 60s and I would counsel younger women to be careful. Be cautious.

    • @sciencenotstigma9534
      @sciencenotstigma9534 Před rokem +45

      Amen to that! I wish I had been more so. I ended up with a Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde. There’s nothing wrong with taking your time to get to know someone. If I could go back, I would have made sure I was done with college and had a career established before I ever worried about getting serious with a man, or even being open to letting that happen. It gets so much harder to do once you have kids, medical problems, bills, and G-d forbid, an abusive partner like I had. Women are taught to care for others, but the best way to be able to do that for the long haul is to take care of ourselves first. It’s not selfish. It’s necessary!

    • @garyfrancis6193
      @garyfrancis6193 Před rokem

      What’s the difference between complicated and complex?

    • @nesquickk2754
      @nesquickk2754 Před rokem

      Awww 😢💜

    • @7PlayingWithFire7
      @7PlayingWithFire7 Před rokem

      Yeah but peterson doesn't want that. He wants women to wait and settle for just one guy. Forced monogamy. He acts like forcing monogamy by culture isn't equality of outcome, which apparently is the greatest evil ever. If he's intelligent, then he's malicious and manipulative, anything to combat equality. Cause equality is the ultimate evil, socialism is "the great lie", and every lie he tells is in service for the greater good, so he has no qualms lying. Either way or he genuinely suffered brain damage from his medicslly induced coma, or his drug habits broke him. That, or lying.

    • @sonofhibbs4425
      @sonofhibbs4425 Před rokem +8

      Except you can’t “ be careful” and “ be cautious” because it literally means she shouldn’t date at all. It’s IMPOSSIBLE to play Russian Roulette in trusting men. Especially a bunch of them that feel they are owed sex. She’s not psychic. A man MUST demonstrate in his behavior with her, consistently, that he’s trustworthy. But that won’t happen.

  • @julienrocher1
    @julienrocher1 Před rokem +123

    Purity, a beautiful heart and natural looks are what attracts me most. I dislike the cosmetically enhanced women who look either like Siamese cats or blow up dolls and happily include significant body count history.

    • @7PlayingWithFire7
      @7PlayingWithFire7 Před rokem

      So what? Good for you? That's like 99% of all women ever lol
      Stop pretending that's a real issue worth funding misogyny for

    • @Tina06019
      @Tina06019 Před rokem +29

      Does « purity » matter for men as well?
      I think I know the answer.
      I do not think excessive sexual behavior with random people is s good thing. But « purity »? That’s always been a stick to beat young women with.

    • @Lipanj92
      @Lipanj92 Před rokem +44

      ​@@Tina06019 The same bothers me, too. A man who's not pure himself is not worthy of a pure woman. Period.

    • @2Sugarbears
      @2Sugarbears Před rokem +19

      Purity? What century are you in.

    • @ButWhy77
      @ButWhy77 Před rokem +25

      But do you have a low body count? Do you have a beautiful heart to love and care for her?

  • @lynndurbin9476
    @lynndurbin9476 Před rokem +454

    If there's a guy who 'tests' they are not gentlemen. Get them out of your life anyway possible.

    • @cjgodley1776
      @cjgodley1776 Před rokem +50

      That's the feminism talking.
      Truly strong women handle men's appropriate advance with grace and ease.

    • @lynndurbin9476
      @lynndurbin9476 Před rokem +64

      @@cjgodley1776 Appropriate is asking out on a date...not to bed for sexual intercourse when you first meet. No 'test' needed.

    • @julijopeterson7096
      @julijopeterson7096 Před rokem +3

      Exactly. Bingo!

    • @julijopeterson7096
      @julijopeterson7096 Před rokem

      But it does kindof depend on the citation.

    • @user-lt1jd1ye3v
      @user-lt1jd1ye3v Před rokem +14

      I’m not sure why CJ is claiming to be godly when he is spewing the most un-Christianlike nonsense imaginable. But you OP are exactly right

  • @beatemuller3690
    @beatemuller3690 Před rokem +12

    Yes, but that’s exactly what gets men stuck in the friend zone. Pursuing someone that keeps telling them no. And then they complain about being used if their pursuit isn’t successful

    • @SuspiriaX
      @SuspiriaX Před rokem

      Yes, women leading guys on. They know from the start they don't really have the hots for him but they love how he will die trying. Proverbially speaking. (except when the guy commits suicide ofc)

    • @luisbarbosa8136
      @luisbarbosa8136 Před 23 dny

      that´s exactly what happened to me.. but womans don´t like to alk about it

  • @nicolewilson283
    @nicolewilson283 Před rokem +38

    A lady says" No, sir. Not until you are my husband. " A good man says " as you wish". Then the love pursuit begins. A man must find himself worthy of such a prize. 💞

    • @OOBEJuanKenobi
      @OOBEJuanKenobi Před rokem

      Very romantic! I would add that women are not a prize to men really. If men feel inferior to women for being beautiful, they have to work through it. What men do instead is hate on more romantic men (accuse them of being less masculine), and then get angry at women for it. This is machismo. Women also have to believe in themselves and focus away from machismo (lying and head games), and focus on men with empathy. Men and women are telepathic. If they focus away from it and towards classism and showing off, they end up burning themselves.

    • @sultanaxavier7108
      @sultanaxavier7108 Před rokem +1

      perfect answer

    • @ilikepancakes2368
      @ilikepancakes2368 Před rokem +7

      Women who make men wait until marriage to have sex are just proving to you they don’t really like you. I guarantee you, there is one guy out there she gave it to without bringing up the marriage question.

    • @TalaR04
      @TalaR04 Před rokem

      That’s maybe if you continue living in your little fantasy world where everyone is Christian and perfect, but if you come back to reality you’ll know that 99% of men would laugh at you, get angry or rape you

    • @nicolewilson283
      @nicolewilson283 Před rokem +1

      @I Like Pancakes So you are saying people can't change or reclaim their self worth? Sounds like projection.

  • @JustineBrownsBookshelf
    @JustineBrownsBookshelf Před rokem +4

    The psychological risks of sex outside of love and marriage are grossly underestimated

    • @nomg563
      @nomg563 Před rokem +1

      Yep

    • @sunbox4700
      @sunbox4700 Před rokem +2

      Risks are big. I was used for sex and it made me damaged and unloved. Some women become mentally I'll once they realize they were used just for sex but not for love.

  • @jadegreen1554
    @jadegreen1554 Před rokem +9

    Knowing how to say “yes” to the innocent courtship of a man you do like and “no” to their occasional testing of the boundaries is what makes a woman strong.

  • @marymilo9916
    @marymilo9916 Před rokem +29

    In school.i was never allowed to have a boyfriend all my friends did and had active sex life etc. I was made to feel weird odd and different. No guys wanted me or were interested. I felt like shit. It affected my confidence and gave me inadequacies later at an older age. So while I love Jp and get what he means, it ain't always true. It really depends on the quality and intelligence of men you're dealing with, looking to attract or might give you the time of day, it's interesting...

    • @sonofhibbs4425
      @sonofhibbs4425 Před rokem

      100% what you say.
      It’s unfair to ask women to set the bar high and be the guardian of morality, when that’s actually the man’s job and important to display leadership in all areas of life. She needs him not to be a man-whore. A woman these days can be as chaste and beautiful as ever, but she will grow old doing so. It just means there is nothing left for women. Or she can join in on the fuck fest and still just get nothing.

    • @jaflaf3201
      @jaflaf3201 Před rokem +1

      Nobody said it was going to be easy.

  • @dericofdorking
    @dericofdorking Před rokem +15

    Guy: wanna go on a date?
    Sophisticated woman: No
    Guy: oh ok
    😅😂

  • @YesPlease1
    @YesPlease1 Před rokem +50

    The most attractive qualities in women in my opinion are: a good heart, integrity, accountability, and the ability to communicate and collaborate. Not how hard she says 'no' to things.

    • @julierowe1732
      @julierowe1732 Před rokem +7

      What a great and refreshing comment

    • @jaflaf3201
      @jaflaf3201 Před rokem

      That's what he means, you twit

    • @snarfus5000
      @snarfus5000 Před rokem

      based comment

    • @ARS-fn6px
      @ARS-fn6px Před rokem +5

      Do you have those qualities, though? Or are you a typical hypocrite? 😂

    • @YesPlease1
      @YesPlease1 Před rokem +6

      @@ARS-fn6px Yes, I value these qualities enough to live them myself. And relationships I've had with women who lack these qualities never worked out. At first I took it personally like "Why am I not worthy of being treated better than they're treating me?" But in hindsight I realized they simply weren't capable of it. There was a mismatch of values and inner qualities, and the universe kept freeing me up to be available for someone who can match me in this way

  • @ButWhy77
    @ButWhy77 Před rokem +18

    Let me just say that I have no issue with this as a woman and totally the understand this but I think it should apply to both genders. If he is a player that's an issue too. I have not slept around. I am not going to allow a player into my life period.

    • @dreamscape405
      @dreamscape405 Před rokem

      Exactly!! Respectable women don't want slutty men either.

    • @taraz6786
      @taraz6786 Před rokem +3

      Preach girl. Say it louder for all the women to truly understand. 👏

    • @quietmousse
      @quietmousse Před rokem

      Right but you will test his boundaries in different ways. None of this is actually one sided

    • @jaflaf3201
      @jaflaf3201 Před rokem

      I'm sure a "playa" is not pejorative terminology

    • @taraz6786
      @taraz6786 Před rokem +1

      @@jaflaf3201 For teenage boys maybe not, but for women and grown men, being a fuckboy or man-whore are not attractive qualities in a mate or potential husband. I know I don’t want to marry a man who has no sense of discipline, discernment or a sense of loyalty or integrity, especially if I wanted to have his children. What kind of example would that be?

  • @Jo_Cruz
    @Jo_Cruz Před rokem +4

    Almost nothing can be less interesting than something everyone has access to. Exclusivity makes you feel special, and every human being wants to be special, much more so in relationships.

  • @stefs7141
    @stefs7141 Před rokem +2

    Is that why I've been literally yelled at for refusing to go home with strangers?

  • @deezed6478
    @deezed6478 Před rokem +23

    Why do men want us to rely on them and let them lead but simultaneously expect us to be so good at saying no to them especially when they’re bigger and stronger and scarier and pushier than us

    • @yorgenibnstrangle3072
      @yorgenibnstrangle3072 Před rokem +4

      He means they say no to sex with other men. So women who don't sleep around are attractive.

    • @deezed6478
      @deezed6478 Před rokem +1

      @@yorgenibnstrangle3072 Yes, any man. You can't want women to be agreeable and docile yet have their guard up around all men and good at saying no to them, especially when they're bigger and stronger. Men shouldn't pursue sex with women they're not genuinely interested in having a long term relationship with.

    • @celestegarcia923
      @celestegarcia923 Před rokem +2

      @@yorgenibnstrangle3072 that still doesn’t excuse men trying to push consent onto a woman

    • @yorgenibnstrangle3072
      @yorgenibnstrangle3072 Před rokem +1

      @@celestegarcia923 I don't know what you mean by "push consent"

    • @isabellarose6514
      @isabellarose6514 Před rokem +1

      @@yorgenibnstrangle3072 No to sex with them too. It should be earned. However long it takes.

  • @marietgagliardi
    @marietgagliardi Před rokem +14

    I was in Vegas for work, in a business suit and was totally buttoned up. I had to laugh because in a hotel with half naked women everywhere with spike heels, I was pursued by most of the men in the lobby. I'm like, WTH, why are you bothering me??

    • @wollfaden1979
      @wollfaden1979 Před rokem +9

      The men thought you have money, because you were wearing business clothes. The other girls looked like they need a man with money. Maybe that was the reason.

    • @marietgagliardi
      @marietgagliardi Před rokem +5

      @@wollfaden1979 ha ha. I bet you are right. Thanks for answering that mystery

    • @Z8terfix
      @Z8terfix Před rokem +8

      @@marietgagliardi nah .. I think the reason was because you were unattainable versus the others who are totally available! Men just like the pursuit of what they perceive that they can't have!

    • @marietgagliardi
      @marietgagliardi Před rokem +4

      @@Z8terfix I'm sure my wedding ring helped with that. Lol

  • @universalrandomizer405
    @universalrandomizer405 Před rokem +28

    I agree, it does make for a very very attractive woman. In practice, you can't handle such a woman unless you are a true specimen of a man with utmost courage and love
    Attractiveness is a curse, not a blessing. In such circumstances, the playboy type wins out, because he's only focused on the woman as an object and not the person as a whole
    Genuine connection between two people is arguably better than having the most attractive female in the world

  • @annectialee3965
    @annectialee3965 Před rokem +3

    A man's ability to hear no without having a temper tantrum is equally as noted. Furthermore, attempting to disregard my no will get you ghosted.

  • @jasmintea2132
    @jasmintea2132 Před rokem +161

    I am 27 years old and I had never been on a pill in my life even though I was offered that every time on my annual checkup at the gynecologist. I am happily married with one child and the second one is on the way 🤰. However I don't know what am I going to do after having my third child- I don't plan to have more children. Taking pills just seems so disrespectful for my own body. So dehumanizing. People should take pills when they are sick, not when they are beautiful, young, healthy and fertile. I think about many options in that regard, but taking pills are not on my top 3 solutions.

    • @sarahhuc.9519
      @sarahhuc.9519 Před rokem

      Look into Natural Family Planning! They'll teach you how to track your cycle and learn your body. It's the most effective, natural and safe way!

    • @Tiggie-vw6sv
      @Tiggie-vw6sv Před rokem +38

      Learn natural family planning. It is easy. Used it for years when I was married. Never so much as a scare.

    • @KD400_
      @KD400_ Před rokem

      Thats ur problem u don't want kids so u immediately think about the pill to disrupt ur natural cycle. Its stupid and pathetic. U don't want more kids ok don't have intercourse

    • @SeanMichaelAfable
      @SeanMichaelAfable Před rokem +22

      “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth” was the first commandment God ever gave :)
      “Saying there’s too many children is like saying there’s too many flowers”
      - Mother Teresa

    • @SeanMichaelAfable
      @SeanMichaelAfable Před rokem

      The pill and hormonal birth control causes breast cancer, lowers your oxytocin production as well as sensitivity, lowers your testosterone - which means lower energy and weight gain, and throws your dopamine out of whack because it’s regulated and based by Oxytocin.
      Just the tip of the ice berg. There’s TONS of horrifying side effects.
      It also tells your body that you’re having a miscarriage every single month.
      Not healthy in any way shape or form.

  • @redsquirrel6131
    @redsquirrel6131 Před rokem +156

    If I want someone to test my boundaries, I'll hang out with my preschoolers, thank you. I don't sleep with kids. That's gross. Little boys and girls want to test boundaries. Adults respect them.

    • @zizi5721
      @zizi5721 Před rokem +9

      BOOM.

    • @Snappypantsdance
      @Snappypantsdance Před rokem +3

      While a lovely thought(and I agree in theory) it is VERY few and far between men who won’t try.

    • @Adennative
      @Adennative Před rokem

      We understood your point. It’s sad when normal people have to explain to others their not criminals. I hope we as a society in America can stop that. Ex. I love the man said a man but follows up with but I not gay. It only shows we have been desensitized to being normal. However, I can understand your reasoning of being around little angels until their poop starts filling the air! Lolo

    • @angeazze6667
      @angeazze6667 Před rokem +1

      Well said ❤

    • @redsquirrel6131
      @redsquirrel6131 Před rokem

      @SnappyPantsDance then we need to raise boys to be men. Quit the boys will be boys bull crap. No more "he's only mean because he likes you.' Maybe we could allow our boys space to grow emotionally mature so they can react to rejection appropriately, rather than turning into fully grown rampaging toddlars.

  • @DivineGoddessOnEarth
    @DivineGoddessOnEarth Před rokem +72

    I had a man test my boundaries on a first date. He asked me if I was birth control. I literally grabbed the plate and my purse and walked out of the restaurant. Told the waitress he’ll take care of the cost.
    The best thing about that date was the restaurant, the food was 🔥

    • @averykitsch
      @averykitsch Před rokem +4

      QUEEN 🔥🔥

    • @FuelAirSparkTime
      @FuelAirSparkTime Před 10 měsíci +3

      Well that was entitled and over reactive behavior on your part, what a hero for womanhood you are

    • @marshahinson2360
      @marshahinson2360 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Well,
      I would have left money on the table since he obviously believes in getting everything for free.
      You're not his Mama.
      You shouldn't have explain those things to him.

    • @David-210
      @David-210 Před měsícem +1

      In the movie Pretty woman with Richard Gere and Julia Roberts in a scene they get into a fight and he leaves money on the table and says that she can leave.
      She didn't take the money, although she badly needed it! Thats a classy person.
      U see, if you say that you are sophisticated, strong, independent and no woman would say she isn't, you can't mix that with "he's gonna take care of the bill".
      @marshahinson2360 explained it great, she would left money on the table because nothing is for free, so you are saying "i paid xy$ for a date with an a$$****, you're gonna pay a lot more if you treat woman like this".
      He was an absolute D-bad for asking you that, you reacted, but not as a "strong, sophisticated, independant" woman.

  • @sierrasky2491
    @sierrasky2491 Před rokem +5

    Men never accept "no" especially when you mean it. Then there is a never ending tirade you have to endure....

  • @avogata_8710
    @avogata_8710 Před rokem +21

    I guess that’s why a recommitment to chastity worked for me.

    • @kathyalex778
      @kathyalex778 Před rokem

      Me as well

    • @Adennative
      @Adennative Před rokem +1

      I also didn’t want my future daughter or son to have relationship out of marriage so I had to practice what I preach before my children were born.

  • @royparker2546
    @royparker2546 Před rokem +32

    Amen👏💯 Jordan Peterson you hit the nail on the head

    • @quiricomazarin476
      @quiricomazarin476 Před rokem

      Actually no.....greatest reason not to as it's a mortal sin that will send a person to hell for aeternity.

  • @sdlager22
    @sdlager22 Před rokem +25

    Agreed. Never really been into women who dress provocatively and thrown them selves at me.

  • @ambriaking8163
    @ambriaking8163 Před rokem +47

    “Women used to be able to say no because they could say they were afraid to get pregnant…”
    Now we can just say, “No.”
    It is in fact a complete sentence. No one has to give excuses or reasons for why they don’t want to have intercourse with someone else.

  • @tricatame7427
    @tricatame7427 Před rokem +102

    Tell this too 99% of men crying and complaining that they are not getting any sx because women want the top tier guy. They feel extremely invalidated and offended by women's rejection and they blame only the womenkind for it.

    • @debrapaulino918
      @debrapaulino918 Před rokem +7

      His values just as much as hers are then demented. If a guy doesn't care about his appearance it means he is a loser. Hollywood is top tier. A guy with right morals and maturity will see value in himself.

    • @vam9785
      @vam9785 Před rokem

      Those men are lost and don’t know anything about values. If I reject sleeping with a guy in my country he will actually respect me. These stupid boys should collect money and go to sex workers.

    • @ddnick
      @ddnick Před rokem

      You didn't understand shit bro 🤣
      He's not talking about women
      Second, he's the one who clearly said women are hypergamous 🤣

    • @chuchaichu
      @chuchaichu Před rokem +4

      This is the whole point of it, isn’t it? let the whining men be sexless and for not being mate-able. Let the complaining woman be with loser men for not being a match for the good ones.
      Let strong men who can say yes be with strong women who can say no, and live happily away from the complainers and whiners.

    • @tickleboi6581
      @tickleboi6581 Před rokem

      Learn proper spelling

  • @mattiacontarino4319
    @mattiacontarino4319 Před rokem +49

    There are billions of men. How could they all feel the same?
    I don't believe in such a priori restrictions: we're all like this, they're all like that.
    Every person understands life his own way.

    • @jeremywolf9472
      @jeremywolf9472 Před rokem +3

      Personaly I rather feel wanted and feel a woman can not resist me.

    • @NenaKeruvim
      @NenaKeruvim Před rokem

      Its called statistics.

    • @jooshozzono7249
      @jooshozzono7249 Před rokem

      The average man, the normal people though

    • @trupinys1979
      @trupinys1979 Před rokem +2

      This dude, and many like him, make a living from generalisations like this. It doesn't have to correspond with reality, it just needs to attract a big enough crowd that believes it does ;)

    • @alinastefana4138
      @alinastefana4138 Před rokem

      Generalities disguised as statistics, as if the emotions, experiences and rationale of individual human beings can be condensed in a 1000 sample size. There are infinite combinations of lives who could meet at the right time or at the wrong time, from a wide variety of cultures. Generalities in this matter are stupid, lazy and, as seen in some comments, harmful.

  • @missy8929
    @missy8929 Před rokem +48

    That sounds sick to me that men test woman’s boundaries to say no of course young damaged* women are more acceptable to that kinda stuff it really just breaks my heart how unfair it is

    • @upmyally1375
      @upmyally1375 Před rokem +2

      Bruh girls literally test men to the point we even have a name for it. Literally, EVERY woman does it.

    • @KD400_
      @KD400_ Před rokem

      ​@@TheBoots72 sleeping around for men doesnt break them. It breaks women. But obviously we can't have every man sleeping around because it destroys society

    • @cjgodley1776
      @cjgodley1776 Před rokem +3

      A strong woman is able to handle appropriate come ons with grace and humor.

    • @xjgal7702
      @xjgal7702 Před rokem +6

      This comment was illegible past the first phrase and yet still has 10 likes. This person is a child who doesn’t understand the nuance of a romantic relationship.

    • @thecreativebusiness1316
      @thecreativebusiness1316 Před rokem +13

      @Anna Belle totally agree! That's why an abused woman should stay single until she sorts herself out, because otherwise, contrary to what maibstream romance makes us think, she will find predators not "saviours".

  • @loraann54fi10
    @loraann54fi10 Před rokem +12

    Little girls need to be taught self respect. They need to learn and know how important they are right from the start. If that happened then they would protect their hearts and spirit from the phycological risk just as birth control protects against the risk of pregnancy.

    • @sososanchez3512
      @sososanchez3512 Před rokem +1

      Yes Yes & Dam Right..
      I'm Teaching my Daughter his ..
      As she is 14.. S*** aint cute when people test your boundaries..

    • @sunbox4700
      @sunbox4700 Před rokem +1

      Little boys need to be taught too how to protect and love women.

    • @loraann54fi10
      @loraann54fi10 Před rokem

      @@sunbox4700 yes, I'm actually a mom of five sons and becoming a good man was always important lessons in our home. It was always on my mind that I had been giving the responsibility of raising five possible heads of households.

  • @veghcsenge
    @veghcsenge Před rokem +4

    What about feeling safe with a man and not having to be constantly alert? It is emotionally exhausting for a woman to be the one who has to say no all the time. Is JP saying, that a woman must not only controll her own desires, but she is also in charge of controlling her boyfriends desires? I think that's not the characteristic of a responsible, trustworthy man.

  • @JennWatson
    @JennWatson Před rokem +8

    Its ironic because men want women when they say no and don’t want them when they say yes- only because they said yes…
    Hard to find a middle ground.
    😞

    • @katyjean862
      @katyjean862 Před rokem

      And yet it seems like men want women who say yes and she only finds out he doesn't want her. After she has said yes. It's tragic. It's awful. Why must men contribute doing this to our precious young women? And why do assholes like Jordan Peterson reinforce predatory behavior?

  • @HealerWarrior101
    @HealerWarrior101 Před rokem +23

    That would apply to equally sophisticated, selective men. The immature, insecure, shallow men would move in fast to easier to conquer targets. Especially nowadays when online dating sites are candy stores with plenty of choices. Furthermore, rejection can be dangerous when the rejected is an ego-maniac who will become your worst enemy. Think of the Weinstein type of men.

    • @sonofhibbs4425
      @sonofhibbs4425 Před rokem

      Yeah. 100% what you said.
      I “won” a used (and tied) condom thrown on my front step after saying no graciously and with friendly compassion, I walked away. Not only that, but I got lots of drive-bys, I guess to show me what a “man”he is, circling my house like a shark. I am supposing I was to feel honored in some way? Because it makes me feel like shit. It’s no different when a man pushes the boundaries. Where the hell did this idea that it’s ok for men to push boundaries come from?! It means you’re the type of man who thinks it’s ok to fuck around. You’ll eventually find the dope to say yes. That’s not husband material…it’s not even “yes to access of vagina” material. It means you most likely have a dirty dick and have zero respect towards women.

    • @celiaartemis5485
      @celiaartemis5485 Před rokem

      Yes. I gpt stalked and attacled for 7 years just because I said no.

  • @dimpledimple5545
    @dimpledimple5545 Před rokem +2

    Saying NO and see a man's reaction is your best way to sort out the ones who respect you.

  • @emilyling-fb4zb
    @emilyling-fb4zb Před rokem +5

    Thank you Louise ❤ it’s just not that easy for women to say no. It’s like we are hardly given the option to put our own needs first. Especially when we have been violated and shown it doesn’t even matter if we do say no

    • @Torrque
      @Torrque Před rokem

      That’s your problem. You either do or don’t. Simple as that. You’re not a victim. Make whatever choice you wish. Simple… so so simple.

  • @Nerthus9
    @Nerthus9 Před rokem +12

    Which a-holes men are who test that boundary instead of honoring and protecting it!

    • @taraz6786
      @taraz6786 Před rokem

      The majority of men nowadays, with sex so available, they have become lazier, crueler and more apathetic towards women and girls.

  • @anastasia10017
    @anastasia10017 Před rokem +7

    There is nothing more annoying than a man who keeps pushing and won't accept no as an answer. But there is one magic word that will stop him from bothering you -- just say the word "marriage" and watch him disappear.

  • @grndiesel
    @grndiesel Před 19 dny +1

    Even as a guy, I don't have much patience for people that insist on testing my boundaries. So if I ever do come up against another person's boundaries, I make every reasonable effort to not test them. Anyone who can't take no for an answer is not someone to associate with.

  • @maidenmarian1
    @maidenmarian1 Před rokem +2

    EXACTLY. Thank you. As I graduated from high school in 1975, I found a crazy world of dating that was a whirlwind of saying no and never meeting a husband. Thank God I have carved out a life that I love. I consider a husband a good idea but I need it to be a good decision.

  • @-optimist-2697
    @-optimist-2697 Před rokem +14

    Women who are mysterious and have boundaries.

    • @TheDalinkwent
      @TheDalinkwent Před rokem +2

      Nonsense.
      The last thing most men want is a mysterious women.

    • @rachel14rod
      @rachel14rod Před rokem

      ​@@TheDalinkwent - once they know a woman ,they lose interest. Mysterious means not letting yourself be known.

    • @TalaR04
      @TalaR04 Před rokem

      What the fuck does that even mean?

    • @TheDalinkwent
      @TheDalinkwent Před rokem

      @@rachel14rod No, once they have SEX with a women who is only good for one ting..they lose interest.
      The more women complain about men online..the more they prove the 90/10 rule and the fact most women are sleeping with the same guys.
      Men typically want a women who puts all of her cards on the table.
      Women want men who they can't get a handle on.
      Men have enough challenges in the dating market.

  • @hourglass44
    @hourglass44 Před rokem +4

    I don’t know wtf Peterson is talking about. The thing men find “most attractive” is a sophisticated woman who says “no”?!
    Either he needs to explain his answer better, or he is way off.
    Men want a down-to-earth, easy-going, and kind woman. Not a difficult or “sophisticated” woman. That is a major turn off.

    • @jay4239
      @jay4239 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Finally found someone in this comment section who thinks like me. 😢

  • @daydaydi
    @daydaydi Před rokem +2

    Unfortunately a lot of men also try to destroy a women's ability to say no, that part of "pushing boundaries" he is talking about can become abusive with men who are not used to being told no, and they can become agressive and try to be dominant with the woman. It hurts some men's ego that a woman is able to stand up to them.

  • @dawnolivo9645
    @dawnolivo9645 Před rokem +2

    Once tested tho and she stands by her boundaries he no longer will pursue unless he's a real man and those are a rare find

  • @geelee2964
    @geelee2964 Před rokem +72

    Just say no, with or without pill, you can still say no lol what the heck is wrong with all these women “afraid” of saying no? You can literally stand up and walk away. That is why women need to be financially, emotionally, physically independent. Until you are independent, you can’t say no. A woman who can say no is a woman who is powerful and she knows she has options and choices.

    • @gromswowguide7927
      @gromswowguide7927 Před rokem +1

      I disagree, a woman who can say no is more likely to have morals and values. Men aren’t attracted to powerful women in the slightest, we just don’t care. Women do.

    • @geelee2964
      @geelee2964 Před rokem +7

      @@gromswowguide7927 Powerful means self power, it’s an internal thing. Not powerful like compare to men, it’s just an internal powerful feeling I appreciate. Men and women are different on many levels.

    • @alexialira3839
      @alexialira3839 Před rokem

      They're not "afraid" of saying no. They're afraid of taking responsibility for their own choices and want to blame someone someone else for any consequences.
      I don't agree that women "need" to be financially independent to say no (to anything, really). Women's voices are still there, choice is still there and so is bodily autonomy. In past dating experiences, the men paid for everything and I never felt that my morals, values, choices, voice and bodily autonomy flew out the window. Never even crossed my mind. Never thought I owed him my body. Idk
      Not sure what you mean by emotionally independent and physically independent. What comes to mind is a disabled individual requiring a caregiver 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @9879SigmundS
      @9879SigmundS Před rokem +6

      Women don’t say no because they are financially, emotionally, and physically dependent on men. Single women, like the women I went to college with, were in no way dependent. They jumped in bed with men because they loved sex and didn’t think it would hurt them. 99.99% or the time, women do not become financially, emotionally, and physically dependent on men until they are married to them at which point sex is safe and far more productive.

    • @kofola9145
      @kofola9145 Před rokem +5

      You can be as independent as you want and still not able to say no.

  • @ponygirlusa
    @ponygirlusa Před rokem +7

    My father taught me this as a teenager and it was the most valuable lesson he could have. I could see how chewed up, used up and thrown away the easy girls were, whose fathers didn't teach them how to hold themselves to a higher standard. He also taught us that if you dress like a tramp you'll be treated like a tramp. He was great, he'd just say things in passing while we were talking to mom about dating and clothes. He'd say "You girls know better. It's up to you though, do as you like, just don't expect to live here if you do something stupid and wind up pregnant." Then smiling and adding, "See how neat that works?" And he'd just be his usual jovial self while delivering dead serious, rock solid advice.
    R.I.P. Dad ❣️😔

    • @angelikikrita6069
      @angelikikrita6069 Před rokem

      RED FLAGS all over: "easy girls", "dressed like a tramp"...

  • @jlnelson98
    @jlnelson98 Před rokem +1

    If a woman WANTS to say yes, that doesn’t make her less attractive. Attractiveness and attraction is about so much more.

  • @user-hi8ig6me4t
    @user-hi8ig6me4t Před rokem +1

    A confident women knows herself she's honest with integrity firm. She's a woman of Integrity she knows what she wants not afraid to say No.

  • @michellesheridan1028
    @michellesheridan1028 Před rokem +5

    Omfg! This is exactly what I’m going through. I’m at a stage in my life where I’m completely happy alone and not wanting anything from a man/to get involved yet again and I’m constantly saying no or I’m not interested or I need space or me time or alone/hermit time and these men won’t freakin leave me alone!! It’s annoying because I feel disrespected and that they’re pushing the boundary and honestly it pushes me away even more. I’m just in a really happy place living my life and living my passions.

    • @quietmousse
      @quietmousse Před rokem

      Remember this when you hit the wall 🧱

    • @saraababa
      @saraababa Před rokem +1

      What you feeling is right. If that is what you are feeling inside. Respect your thoughts because they are RIGHT!

  • @rachangel1951
    @rachangel1951 Před rokem +14

    isn't that deliberately pushing boundaries? and that is manipulation.

    • @quietmousse
      @quietmousse Před rokem

      Not a manipulation if all you have to say is one word, No

    • @rachangel1951
      @rachangel1951 Před rokem +3

      @@quietmousse yeah it is manipulation. You know that. Also, it’s exploitative. You know that too.

    • @quietmousse
      @quietmousse Před rokem

      @@rachangel1951 no it's not. You have the right and responsibility to simply say NO. Victimhood is the manipulation here.

    • @rachangel1951
      @rachangel1951 Před rokem +3

      @@quietmousse and you're victim blaming. a liar is a liar on their own accord.

  • @tokelolove7234
    @tokelolove7234 Před rokem +2

    My no means no, I've never played hard to get, I just want to be left alone. If I like you I'll be straight up without throwing myself at you. I've also never been on the pill, I hate men who don't respect boundaries.

  • @a-zdesign
    @a-zdesign Před rokem +1

    I experience this more times that I can count 💯

  • @Leoo117
    @Leoo117 Před rokem +24

    It's the REASON for saying no that matters to a GOOD man. Like the morals, principles and the self-respect.
    Also, a good man will not "test" the boundaries. He'll respect them just as he wants his boundaries to be respected. Jordan speaks from the perspective of one that hasn't matured yet.
    Also, the pill doesn't have anything to do with someone saying "no". Rather it makes it easier for someone to show their true colors.

    • @ladyursala
      @ladyursala Před rokem +9

      Exactly!! A high value man wouldn’t try to get her to bed before marriage

    • @quietmousse
      @quietmousse Před rokem

      No a good man has to test her boundaries or she will get bored with him. Women only need to keep saying "No", it's not difficult.

  • @MorgueInTheVoid
    @MorgueInTheVoid Před rokem +4

    So sad that we need a reason to say no. If we say no, it shouldn't matter what the reason is. A man should give me the respect of no longer testing my boundaries and trying to coerce me into pleasing him regardless of if I'm comfortable. Stay the hell away from me.

  • @GM-vt6is
    @GM-vt6is Před rokem +1

    True, nothing more psychologically alluring to most people than just the right amount of resistance to their advances..and indeed, the pill did change a lot of things, and not necessarily only for the better

  • @1wisestein
    @1wisestein Před rokem +1

    Wow. Ok, first time I've found myself disagreeing with JP so clearly on something. What's attractive to me in a woman is seeing that she'll break rules for me that she wouldn't break with other guys. It's the biggest sign that I'm the best thing her way and a predictor that we can have a strong pair-bond long into the future.

  • @lauracracchiolo9698
    @lauracracchiolo9698 Před rokem +12

    My mom told me this about the pill. It was the beginning of the end of virtuous women.

    • @7PlayingWithFire7
      @7PlayingWithFire7 Před rokem

      Or maybe this "virtue" never existed and it was always about caution? And that to claim its a virtue in the first place is really weird. Guys aren't seen as virtuous for being virgins, but women are? Literal definition of sexism. Must be hard to be such a right wing lunatic who views human beings as lesser and evil for having sex. That means you'd be okay with really terrible and evil acts to force people to behave according to your ideas. That makes you evil.

    • @KD400_
      @KD400_ Před rokem +1

      I sure hope u didn't go down the hedonistic lifestyle.

    • @sonofhibbs4425
      @sonofhibbs4425 Před rokem

      The Catholic Church has been saying this since contraceptives were available.

  • @tinytim71301
    @tinytim71301 Před rokem +9

    A man needs a sophisticated woman that can say “no”, indeed. Or rather, this man does. I have routinely tested this notion too, which I’m sure is partially why I’m single. Dr. Peterson is a genius.

    • @Ana_1980
      @Ana_1980 Před rokem +6

      I would sincerely love to know where Peterson finds these men who want decent women.
      I'm in my 40s and 99% of the men I meet are okay with promiscuous behavior. In the sense that, when asked if they are looking for a serious relationship or some fun, they say they're opet to both.
      Which, to me says they are not a suitable partner because they're attracted to loose women. And since I am not attracted to loose men, I don't accept a second date.
      The vast majority of men are okay with pornography and promiscuity. Very few are not. This man should start a dating app or site and then have people participate in answering about their experiences when dating on said app.
      This is one of the first questions I ask a potential partner and I seldom receive a reply that states he is not okay with casual fun.
      I've been celibate for 8 years now and have pretty much given up on finding a partner, at least for the foreseeable future. I was never promiscuous and never liked men who were. It cut down my options substantially but I can't give my heart to someone who doesn't share my values.
      Good luck out there!

    • @7PlayingWithFire7
      @7PlayingWithFire7 Před rokem

      He's a genius because he gave you a reason to blame all women over realizing that you almost definitely aren't sophisticated and you absolutely are the problem, not women ? 😂
      Oof proper loser alert

    • @7PlayingWithFire7
      @7PlayingWithFire7 Před rokem

      ​​​@@Ana_1980 He doesn't base this on any reality, just imagination. He makes shit up to rile up his incel base.
      It makes pathetic losers feel better about themselves when they can blame women and culture over their own shortcomings.
      It's really sad. Cause these people could meet the right people, but the truth is they aren't mature enough, and refuse to grow, cause their parasocial daddy told them.
      Then these guys go over to andrew tate videos, and spread their hatred and blame on women to other guys.
      It's just losers willing to do anything over learn and grow, cause it clashes with their political views, which they can't defy cause their entire life is based around algorithmic jerk offs with their fellow misogynist and some soon-to-be extremists.

    • @taraz6786
      @taraz6786 Před rokem

      It is much easier to find a good woman as opposed to a good man, so I am extremely suspicious of men who claim they can’t find a woman. There genuinely must be something wrong that they’re not willing to admit, or rather they are not widening the net and only going after shallow and immature women, or women that they only want to sleep with. You’re playing yourself when the truth is, you’re choosing your life, whereas women in your situation didn’t, they’re too busy having escaped violent, abusive, toxic, cheating men etc etc, the list goes on.

  • @myswagobsession
    @myswagobsession Před rokem +1

    I think my boundaries are so thick men dont even try to test it 😂

  • @unclemike5840
    @unclemike5840 Před rokem +1

    Virtue might be the word

  • @CountYourAssets
    @CountYourAssets Před rokem +3

    It's not just about saying no because you don't want to get pregnant... You can say NO Because you don't want to actually have sex or you just have more self respect and want to wait for the right person.

  • @kimberlynoriette
    @kimberlynoriette Před rokem +3

    I think she missed the point. The real reason why we have to say "no" isn't for the physical risks; it’s for the psychological risks and they know it.

    • @margotrobbie8582
      @margotrobbie8582 Před rokem

      I don’t understand what she means? Im not native.

    • @kimberlynoriette
      @kimberlynoriette Před rokem

      @@margotrobbie8582 "the pill" is a contraveptve to prevent pregnancy. She's blaming contraceptives when I believe it's the woman and man's responsibility to engage in sex only when expectations are cleqr.

    • @sunbox4700
      @sunbox4700 Před rokem

      ​@@margotrobbie8582 She wants to trust a man, but most men will use a woman for sex and leave her while she was hoping for more. Lots of reasons. It's just one reason.

  • @antoineroccamora
    @antoineroccamora Před rokem

    Jordan Peterson will never truly be missed

  • @gavinfoley4134
    @gavinfoley4134 Před rokem +2

    That whole podcast was just brilliant

  • @jaco7675
    @jaco7675 Před rokem +3

    My wife used to say “no” all the time. Amazing that we ever had kids.

    • @jay4239
      @jay4239 Před 9 měsíci

      How is your relationship now?

  • @woodshed_moments
    @woodshed_moments Před rokem +3

    I think he was getting warm, but I think he has the sense to understand what is University hardwired in men to evoke as a response from women of this type - there are four things that a man unequivocally values in a woman, so valued are they, they command, they literally compel a response from him.
    Two of these characteristics, God gave her, two of them she has developed on her own, all together represent a value a man is compelled to honor and defend and love…
    1. Her natural God-given beauty
    2. Her utility, that is to say her ability to bear man’s legacy through children
    3. Her humility, men cannot stand (as a matter of fact) oppose arrogant, haughty women
    4. Self-control - a woman with self-control is not prone to leaning to her understanding on a matter right out the gate but tempers her perspectives and guides her emotions with her intellect rather than surrendering to them
    These things are highly prized by men, because they know these ingredients will go into his children.

    • @LilyGazou
      @LilyGazou Před rokem

      A man should note her family interactions and what kind of friends she has also.

  • @Carelock
    @Carelock Před 9 dny

    She’s a true hero…

  • @Arcenia13
    @Arcenia13 Před 4 dny

    It’s called “Self Worth”
    When a lady has self worth she illuminates this to everyone with her confidence. It’s beautiful to get that understanding that she has a higher standard than most.

  • @jellyjams7217
    @jellyjams7217 Před rokem +4

    So the girl I should be with should say No a lot?

  • @trinijoyl1720
    @trinijoyl1720 Před rokem +16

    Well he broke up wit me when i said NO! After almost 3 years! He wanted me to change my religion! Wat the Hell! There were other times I said no. For simple things. He still broke up wit me!!!!

    • @forgodandcountry6554
      @forgodandcountry6554 Před rokem +29

      Then you were one of the lucky ones. You stood your moral ground and in return, you were saved from committing yourself to a terrible marriage, because a real man who is a good man, a moral man that's in love with you will wait until marriage.

    • @trinijoyl1720
      @trinijoyl1720 Před rokem +10

      @@forgodandcountry6554 thank u for such encouraging words. Blessings

    • @NB-yu4lj
      @NB-yu4lj Před rokem +1

      What’s his side of the story?

    • @trinijoyl1720
      @trinijoyl1720 Před rokem +2

      @@NB-yu4lj ???????. I believe he made a lot of excuses just to break up wit me. He blame me for everything. After he broke up he kept calling me like in between for 2! Years! I had to cut him off! He was playing wit my heart. I guess he never really loved me.

    • @angeliquequiquerez483
      @angeliquequiquerez483 Před rokem +4

      This is not love. You cannot expect someone to change religion because religion is something privat and you have to believe in it.

  • @Chocolate-vr9cm
    @Chocolate-vr9cm Před rokem +1

    Having boundaries is top of the stack? No. Looks are top of the stack. All people care about is how someone looks.

  • @gurinderpalsingh841
    @gurinderpalsingh841 Před rokem

    Very genuine and sophisticated, good, noble woman.

  • @celestegarcia923
    @celestegarcia923 Před rokem +6

    In other words, a man will do the most to push and force consent and if she ends up giving in out of exhaustion, he’ll respect her less. Wow, I am so proud of men!

  • @ChewingBarbie
    @ChewingBarbie Před rokem +12

    The pill makes you more likely to say yes to men that you wouldn’t find attractive off the pill so that’s also concerning

    • @zizi5721
      @zizi5721 Před rokem

      ​@@darthvader1793 I hope she says yes 🔥

    • @markford6154
      @markford6154 Před rokem +3

      That is an abdication of responsibility. The pill does not make you do anything.

    • @TalaR04
      @TalaR04 Před rokem +1

      The pill makes sure you’re safe, and that is all that should matter. Bringing a child into the world when it was not meant to be brought here, you’ll hurt the child, yourself and find no man who wants to date a young single mother

  • @E9819_
    @E9819_ Před 6 měsíci

    A sophisticated woman that stays strong in her convictions is honestly so attractive, it’s the greenest of green flags.

  • @lennysamuel9290
    @lennysamuel9290 Před rokem

    Top of his stack! Beauty and attraction has no labels or limits!!!! It's that mysterious thing that affects the individual individually!!!!