Mtg: 6 Common Deckbuilding Mistakes (and How to Fix Them)
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- čas přidán 3. 12. 2020
- Dev''s been building Magic decks on CZcams for over 5 years, but somehow, he's never made a video about deckbuilding. He gets emails every week from fellow wizards asking him to look at their decks, so today, he's going over all of the most common mistakes he sees from new and experienced players alike!
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when I brew, I take the initial deck into my hand and throw it at the wall. I cut every card that lands face up and add in lands. Then I slather myself with honey and roll through the pile. Whatever sticks to me I put in the sideboard and add in completely new cards which are chosen at random via a goldfish swimming through a koi pond.
I got into the pro tour after following this advice thank you
I need a removal spell for the honey
😂😂😂🤣
A man of culture
Bro thank you that was probably the best image I had painted beautifully in my brain 69/10
"remember your opponent wants to play magic too"
-laughs in blue-
Laughs in esper control
Are you the guy I played on arena yesterday that would just say blue everytime he casted a blue spell? This just feels like something he'd say lol.
Laughs with Red Prison in legacy.
Laughing at all of you with rougues of tefaris tutalege
Stax players don't laugh.
I built a BR “all removal, no wincon” deck on Arena so I could get through that ‘kill 15 creatures’ quest as fast as possible. It had a very good win rate because my opponents would often concede when nothing they played would stick.
Yep. I've ran into some of those, and done exactly that. lol I have a land destruction deck somewhere in my collection, that I only use when people piss me off and I just want to REALLY annoy them.
people like you are what is wrong with the world today.... lol. Not really, but that would drive me crazy.
@@RyanWrighti’ve thought of a land removal deck.. is it effective?
Or a mill/discard deck. That's annoying
@@yxsusada used to be
"Play good cards" is like that one famous sidebar from a 90s gaming magazine: "PROTIP: To defeat the [final boss of Doom], shoot at it until it dies."
...and don't get hit.
"To avoid dying, make sure to keep your life total above 0"
"Git gud, kid" -every Facebook gaming group, aka more toxic than lead
@@allnamesaretakenful more toxic than mercury actualy
Picked up South Park: the Fractured But Whole (75% off on Epic right now!) and the very first tip I got was: _If you're having trouble winning in combat, try getting better at the game!_
This was a great video, the only thing that I can think of that would be better is if you showcase a "beginner" deck, and then show how you change the curve, mana base, and card choices to turn it into a competitive deck.
That way people can really see how their choices will affect the overall deck. And how to recognize if they're making noob mistakes.
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Agreed. As a newer player, I was still lost. Too many cards to choose from. Aghhh
100% agree with this!
I'd love to see a video like this about sideboarding
Me too!
Definitely sideboarding
imo biggest tip for sideboard, think of it as part of your maindeck, your deck is 75, not 60 and 15.
Play a Fey of Wishes and your collection is your sideboard
Absolutely
as a lowish intermediate who much stronger at playing vs. deck-building, this was extremely helpful. here's the timestamps for each step if anyone wants to come back to a specific one:
1) not enough interaction 2:42
2) not enough threats 5:25
3) mana base 9:37
4) curve theory 17:00
5) no card advatage / no late game engine 21:54
6) disregarding the meta 25:19
"how many colored sources do you need to consistently cast your spells" is literally one of the best articles on the entire internet if you want to improve your deckbuilding, Im glad dev brought it up. The amount of people I see playing sth like 1CC cards for example with like 13-14 sources in their deck who then complain about the shuffler being rigged is insane. Its like, yeah, you have around a 20% chance of not being able to cast this card on curve, what the hell did you expect? Seriously, Frank did a spreadsheet on this, you can easily look up how many sources you need to cast alll your spells on curve. Obviously the spreadsheet doesnt consider manadorks or stuff like "attune with aether", but you can change your manabase later. Great article.
He even has equations in his other articles so you can calculate it yourself for your own decks.
Except that the shuffler is actually rigged or wretched. When I am playing mono red with 25 lands, and only 6 of them are either planar beacons or mobilized district, and I constantly draw one mountain and two "special" lands, that's not how it works in actual paper magic. As to the advice. It's pretty generic. I saw no insight on how to actually build decks.
would you mind sharing the article link or name? im interested in the spreadsheet :D
@@tarekrashedgongora9214 it's in the description of the video labeled "frank karstens Mana chart" 😊
@@plumokin5535 lol im blind hahahaah thank you so much!
Timestamps:
2:42 Not Enough Interaction
5:35 Not Enough Threats
9:07 Da Manas
17:01 The Dreaded Curve Theory
21:54 No Card Advantage / Engine
25:09 No Care for the Meta
PS: I wanted to add these for a better personal use of the video, in order to return here every now and then and still be able to find each part easily. I hope this helps others, as well.
Thank you, this was helpful.
This is why I love your channel. Real advice with great examples! And the cats.
That intro just made me feel connected with you. As a longtime player, I get frustrated at both my gameplay and deck-building. I really enjoy your dank jank. I’m looking forward to learning from you.
Decent tips, though I find it hilarious that I've been subbed to MTGs CZcams channel for Friday Nights for at least half a decade but CZcams has now decided I need to know how to build a deck.
Good work, it may not be pertinent to me but it's a service that new players need.
I love seeing Chrono Cross in the background! One of my favorites!
I appreciate the depth of your explanations. Keep keeping on!
Part 2, part 3, part 4... keep em coming Dev, this is such important info! Would love to see more of this!
Great video, definitely the best Magic channel out there. The good vibes and just general excitement you have for Magic is infectious, and just so much more pleasant to be around then a lot of the negativity for Magic. Even when I'm not currently playing MTGA I still watch the videos, cheesy humour, great outlook on Magic, very informative. Keep up the great work!
Love this video. I've been playing for years and I really haven't come across deck building information that went into this kind of depth. Fantastic. Thanks Dev.
Great video! I made adjustments to my deck after watching and taking notes and immediately saw an improvement in my decks strength and performance.
Great tutorial Dev! I’m definitely going to look at my decks and see how they play out with your advice. Examining my mana base, mana curve, and interaction will be a major focus. Keep up the great content my dude ✊
Haven’t played MTG since Innistrad (1st time), but I’ve been catching up on what I’ve missed. You have great points, and wonderful flow to the video, made it super watchable and digestible, while still hitting really important parts. Just wanted to say you earned a sub with this video, keep up the great content, can’t wait to see more of your stuff.
My favorite vid you've done so far, Dev. Thank you for your insight, and Happy Holidays!
Only just started getting into Magic the Gathering and I'm so happy that I found your channel. Really appreciate your honest and open approach to talking about the game. You also explain things in a super accessible way to new players.
Love the editing. Especially adding the whole deck you are talking about. Good stuff Dev.
Can confirm playing 20 lands was the norm back in the day, though sometimes my control-playing cousin would really think outside the box and play 21 or 22
Fucking maverick
that's what I've been told when I started learning the game :)
I'm old school too. 20 lands in a 60 card deck still make sense to me.
I finally stopped doing 20 land decks maybe a year or three ago? Then again I don't play any competitive formats so I was always in an echo chamber haha.
I find 15 enough at times but it’s riskier for card draw
Quality content for the general player. Thank you for going out on a limb with this Dev.
Thank you Dev, I like making my homebrews even if they fall a bit short against the meta decks. Sure learned a few things, looking forward to part 2.
This is a fantastic video - I hope you do a part 2. I also would like to hear a video like this about sideboarding. I think this will be a great way for you to talk standard through the next few months of stale standard before rotation
I love your videos and how you break down the basics yet using advanced mindsets that I've used to help others learn the game. Keep up the awesome work!
You're the only MTG channel I watch religiously, Dev, even in seasons where i'm not playing at all :)
Only Dev and Tolarian Tutor for me.
Old Teferi Control decks be like "threats, what are they?"
Questing beast/shifting tricerotops . small threats but they were the main ones.
Teferi ult was their win con. Snorezeville
@@Billchu13 I played that deck and I agree, eventually they got win cons and it made me much happier. That was the first control deck I've played that wasn't even fun to win with.
Oh yeah I remember them back in the XLN-M20 standard, when people either played Esper Control or Mono Red Aggro. Dont even try to watch that pro tour, it was a literal Esper Control mirror marathon. Teferi wincon is a lie they made up, true wincon was ragequit of their opponent. I remember beating those decks with Rakdos Aggressive Midrange. Good times.
@@jozzyalthefool9273 I would always turn the rage quit against them. Alt tab to my email. If it takes you 30 min to win, did you even win at all?
Thank you. One if not the best building comprehensive guide I've come across!
Thanks for reminding me about the Mana curve counts. I've been half assing my Mana curves for too long. He has a previous article with the hypergeometric probability equations, which I'm going to use in a python script
One of your best videos you've made in a while. I appreciate hearing your discussions on deck building theory. You are one of the best deckbuilders out there, but I don't listen to your videos as much as I would like because I no longer play Standard. Looking forward to attempting to translate this into Commander deck building ;).
Make more theory videos! A lot more!
This is a great video. It would be awesome to see a part2.
In the mean time, gratz and thnx for the content and the channel.
Hi Dev, great video as always, and this one was especially informative. I'd love to see a follow up video where you build a deck from scratch, on camera, whilst specifically referencing the points you've made here.
Great content, very insightful!! Can't wait for the Part II
thanks for the good work Dev
Thanks for the advice! it is always welcome. I would love to see another video like this.
Great vid! Detailed, informative, AND fun! Keep being awesome!
Thanks this cleared up for me thinks like how the mana curve works and managing aggression/ control in a deck. I have been a kitchen table player for years and muddled my way through deck building and strategy. Thanks!
Very much looking forward to this video! Thx Dev.
After taking a short break from mtg. 23-ish years. I have found that I missed a lot. Been asking community's and people at my local a thousand questions that upon receiving answers, now I have atleast two more questions. Your videos are a solid reference and are worth watching a couple times to sponge up all the information. Thank you for doing what you do. It truly is a great service for the community.
Damn I don't normally comment, but this was the best experience I had about someone talking at me about mtg.. Good job rolling through 30 minutes without stuttering and filler.
Good stuff as always!
Love how you mentioned mana curve. Been looking everywhere for like 3 days trying to learn it.
Good video with good examples👍
Dev from SBMTG is always good to watch😁
Just want to tell you how much I appreciate your videos and your personality! You rock dude.
Best video on this topic I've seen so far! Thumbs up. 👍
I’m coming back into the game after a long hiatus and this is very helpful. I played in elementary and middle school and only cared about big creatures, but now I’m finding it infinitely more rewarding to craft unique strategies. Thanks for this!
Part 2 please!! I like the extra info! Keep up the great work!
Thank you. Been playing 22 years and learned tons!
When I made my first decks as a little kid, my method was to include lands double the highest casting cost spell.
It worked because my friends played even less lands haha. First time I played against someone who knew what they were doing, it was a big shock to see what a real deck could do just because of land.
#ResourceManagement
Thank you for the great teach on the theory combined with solid examples from experience, instant subscribe. I just started learning Magic in 2022 and find it quite overwhelming. I would appreciate a revised guide on the basics on how to build and improve a deck, with current standard sets and starting decks in Arena so new players like me could actually try out.
Perfect timing. I just subbed to your channel the other day after starting to play Magic a bit more seriously.
Thanks man, learned so much now. Love the practical examples
Fantastic Video! You’re straightforward, easily understood, down to earth approach is on point. You’ve earned a like and a sub.
Great insights bro! Just getting into your vids. I haven’t played in years and just jumped back in.
Awesome video! Pretty new to building decks and was feeling a little lost in where I should focus my attention. Thanks for the insight.
Thanks dev . Very interesting and some very specific info I honestly knew nothing about. Keep these vids coming if you can it’s super helpful and very interesting
Thank you for the video. Great advice here for starting players and good reminders for experienced players.
This style of video is a great pallet cleanser from set discussion. It's good magic theory and concept when you just wanna learn how to become a better pilot. You're adding needed knowledge to the magic community; i hope to more content like this in the future.
Great stuff! In my case the land tip was extremelly useful!
These were great tips! Thanks for doing this video.
Thankyou for this. Looking forward to part 2.
Was going to subscribe due to the good information you gave but the end made me laugh and made my day! Definitely subbing now!
Great video! Just the right amount of "in-depth".
This is exactly what I was looking for thank you!
Man I’m so glad to find your channel. I played Magic way back in the day and just revived my love of it because my girlfriend showed interest in learning. Needless to say, it’s been an endless amount of fun and deck strategies tested on each other. But I always had a hard time really coming up with some solid guidelines to help her with her deck building besides my “this card is cool, build around that.” Haha again, thanks for the work you put in man. New subscriber for sure! 👍🏻👍🏻
Great video. I definitely want to see part 2+ and would love to get your complete thoughts on netdecking
I like the advice you give in this video. I have never really thought about the number of cards of each casting cost as an "amount". I think keeping this advice in mind when I build will help me build better. I'm Mythic player on MTG but I am always looking for ways to get better. Thanks
Fantastic video! Thank you so much for all you do!
Thanks for giving us your take on things. While I think I knew most of this it's good to get a reminder sometimes.
Yup, definitely wanna see a part 2.
I appreciate your videos man you are super informative and genuine. Thank you.
Always glad to watch your vids Dev. Haven't played in a long time due to no longer living near my playgroup, but you always keep me interested in the game. Keep up the work we all know Wizards can't.
This is great. I've been playing for over 20 years and this was great to review to spruce up existing decks that I would like to hone to make better. Everyone who plays magic should watch this video.
Good vid. Would like to see one on the pros and cons of net decking. Biggest pro is access: Gives players a reliable easy entry into the game and a low base level of commitment (time, energy, mental space) to continue playing. I love all of these suggestions (especially the mana base chart) because they are simple solutions to things that could help your win rate, basically and explain why you've been getting screwed. Only exception is the last rule knowing the meta. Not everyone has time to dive into "meta theory." Might be nice to hear you talk about a "know the meta-lite" advice.
I loved the video man! I'll apply all the tips to improve my deck building
Dev should have ALL the Subscribers and Patrons. Some of the most unique content in MtG, and an awesome dude!
Happy to have found this video. Even for a newbe, a lot of the deckbuilding video’s don’t give a lot of info…
I am just getting into Magic. I played for a very short time JUST after the game released (probably 94?) and then promptly forgot all about it until a couple weeks ago. I am having so much fun learning the intricacies of this game. I just wanted to take a moment and thank you, Dev, for creating such great content. Not only is your channel the most informative I've found yet, but you seem like a good dude. You radiate positivity, bro. Keep killing it, I appreciate it.
This video was really very well done. Thanks for doing it.
Awesome video, Dev. Thank you!
Dev, this is the most useful video I have seen on this topic (at least with the amount of details)
Excellent video , help me dramatically in my draft play
Great video Dev. Would like to see you dive into some of the tangents you brought up in the video too
Great video... I like to see this kind of information as I am fairly new to the game and learning every day.
Thanks for the advice Dev, you’re a cool dude.
This was awesome, thank you!
You are sick dude! Humble and informative :)
Thank you for the video. The most interesting information is that probabilities to out cards we want when we need them. I would like see more video like this one to help people to learn and progess in Magic journey :)
You have a picture of the wrong Vivien @ 16:10, FYI :)
Love videos like these, would like to see some content on draft building and similar videos to these in the future!
Part two for sure. Even the most advanced need a refresher from time.
Solid video. I’m teaching a bunch of new players Magic and they need to make the jump to building their own decks. Hopefully this will help.
Very insightful video, Sir, thank you!
Thank you so much! This video is great! Makes me revisit my decks
Great content Dev, been here for a long time.
I'd love to see more videos like this but on advanced subjects. This really helped me back in the day and I'd like to learn more!
Holy shit Dev out here name dropping Valkyria Chronicles! Underrated gem, I knew there was a reason you were my one of my favorite Magic content creators.