Dhruv rathee is the biggest hypocrite. He trashed Animal for being violent and misogynistic, but he himself has promoted many violent and misogynistic movies through his channel. Lipstick under burka normalizing honey trapping and cheating. Lust stories 2 had women creeping at other man. Those films do not get this much critism that animal got. Infact those films are celebrated as feminist films so I think those films arr problematic than animal. People might not go to watch those films but that doesn't mean people won't watch it in ott, why they don't go to such films and go to films like Animal is bcuz Animal is big and much enterintaining. If u disagree with "films can only change hairstyle not society" statement then how can u say profanity doesn't effect society negatively, there was a old guy in my village, when he sees young girls he'll talk to them in vulgur way and when we ask why do u talk like that he'll say it's a colokial style as a justification. If so the shoe licking scene can also be taken as colokial style because ranbir doesn't make her literally lick the shoe. Today women have job and all women wany to be independent, in our ads they show men cooking, the laws are biased against men, so how are we still in patriachy?
Its a story of a man so driven by the validation from his father, he goes beyond his moral transcendence and loses all sight of right and wrong. In the second half we see his transformation from a typical bollywood hero to a full blown Animal, almost as crazy as the villian itself. Didnt get bored even for a minute through 3 hr runtime. I watched the film like a character study and i loved it
@@ramakrishna9041 that’s how movies are made in Hollywood. Go get some international exposure. Have you not seen wolf of Wall Street, gone girl, 365 days? Tum chapri ho and it proves it 🤣🤣
If you notice, Vanga’s female characters are also flawed and strong. Rashmika adding extra salt in Ranvijay’s food, slapping him multiple times, screaming at him and leaving him at end. Bobby Deol’s wives smoking (which is not common in commercial cinema) and making fun of her husband’s disability and one admitting she is a gold digger
That is an interesting take! Something like The Taxi Driver comes to mind when a movie is character driven, maybe we can see more of that in the next installment of Animal.
In Kabir Singh there is a scene where Preeti forces Ksbir Singh to kiss her against his consent. She is also flawed in a way. She does have a stance in the movie. Thats why she also leaves Kabir until he finds her 9 months later. Sorry i find this video very biased
Well that's what Sandeep did to justify his stance ..in real life also he does that ..consent is very important , violence by anyone should never be justified ...but does it change who in our proportionately impacted by violence in society ..it's women and kids ..when you give that kind of logic of movie , it enables the culture which normalised violence against women ..arey uss ladki ne pehle kuch kiya hoga ..tabhi Aisa hua ...while engaging the very fact that who has more physical power ..
@@victoryv116 the movie did not justify anything. We cannot alwaye have stories on fluffy characters. Sandeep writes stories on toxic characters. Go explore international cinema. Kabir Singh and Animal come nowhere close to the toxicity shown in hollywood. Movies can show toxic relationships because toxic relationships exist in real life
@@Lazymath007_ I have heard this amateure argument been made ..that movies cannot be preachy all happy or fluffy , they should explore dark realities , show violence or dark themes ..the people who made this argument in reference to animal and Kabir singh infact do not have any knowledge on language of cinema and story telling...art cannot be separated from artist nor from it audience ..it doesn't exist in limbo ..good art is always about truth of humans our civilisation and our dark nature ...because of this reason those preachy movies were not regarded good cinema because they try to impose the belief in their audience, even if they are based on moral subject ..fluffy doesn't tell you the reality of relationship , it's a fantasy ...however Tarantino turns out be great because explores the truth , in inglourious bastard , scene in cinema hall where nazis are applauding on seeing violence on the enemy in the movie , was infact the commentary on us that how we as masses became insensitive towards violence if we are brain washed to think it's justified...that's a masterpiece..I can give more example like clock work orange and all that ...but I am too lazy to write ..however Sandeep venga Reddy is not telling you any truth ...animal is not dark movie , it's simply stupid and thriving on mentality of toxic masculinity , that's it ..no character arcs , no genuine stakes, stakes were artificial just to worship this man , no theme, toxic relationship does exist but why to put romantic songs behind it , why to feel sympathetic for character if they are toxic, he should have shown us the truth , that was simply normalising the toxicity .....mysogyny is lucrative business nowadays ..there are many buyers of it ..I am film student so don't tell me about movies
I totally agree that the film story kind of got lost in between and it does not seem like Father Son movie at all as how it was promoted. Though I still loved the movie as I feel shots are very tight, fanstastic music and transitions were good too. But looking from a lense of how it was promoted, it's aine that movie. Though I feel Sandeep is extremely talented and knows his craft, but got a bit lost midway in the story. I do look forward to more from him.
His direction and editing were great in that movie. There were certain references of hitler too. So I believe he is great in the genre of action and brutality in indian cinema. Complex characters and world building are something I love the most. Film justifies the title too.
Rashmika’s character was written strongly in Animal, she wasnt just eye candy. She slapped Ranvijay multiple times, called him out on his actions and left him at the end. Totally disagree with your point
Yes.. You're right.. She's sooooo strong, yaar.. She married an alpha male, doing s*x with him just after his violent works and forgot everything.. She maintained her high class status, even though she knew that her husband is a mobster.. At the end, when her husband cheated on her, she realised that its a high time to fight.. And, doing what? Again s*x with him.. She even doesn't have any integrity.. A pathetic character..
12:04 the people in so-called developed and progressive countries like america had loved animal so much that many of the film's tickets were sold in black
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"Lick my shoe" wale scene mei jab zoya kehti hai ki mai aapke liye kuch bhi kar sakti hu, tab jaake ranvijay colloquially kehta hai "lick my shoe" aur uske baad wo waha se chala jaata hai! Agar wo literally bolta to wo sach mei joote chatwaata!! Usne colloquially kaha thaa
Tumara ye logic ek aam admi ko nhi samaj me ayega jab ap pura film me ek character ko glorify karte ho to then apko ye samaj nhi atta And the word u used was out of my world 🤣
People are encouraging misogynistic characters more as the box office collection of kabir singh and animal are too high. So we cant say that north indian audience are not backward. They love violence, gore and brutality. Its truth. U can write a lot of things in social media but u cant ddny this fact.
Maybe the film made huge box office numbers simply because people wanted to witness what the hype was really about and ended up not liking it? Regardless, Sandeep did strike the right chord with film elements so catchy that it created a dichotomy of the film watching masses
Hum daily movies ya cinema ke bare mai sochtey ya baat kartey. Or phir mai ek chij par focus karta hoon Ki bollywood ya indian chinema mai variety of movies sayad hi banti hai. Or Hollywood mai ek saal mai hi har variety ki movie ki ek na ek movie jaroor banti hai. Koi indian director ya actor ko batao bhai.
Cinemaan did a 52 min analysis on the movie the then title was "why animal feels different" And towards the end he also mentions a number of ways the movie could be WAYY better And befreak made a video on why characters like Ranvijay, Kabir agrees so famous and hit (long story short it's associated with the many Characteristics that often come with great grey shade characters, anti heros etc, like confidence, fearlessness, etc)
I think its not the movie it's the distribution of Indian society ... Movie tier 1 .. watch it and go back normal Movie teir 3.. somehow get impressed ... and their inner thoughts matches the character... Me I can watch brutality blood cuts it excites my inner thoughts ... does that mean I'm really that kind of guy... But.. the boby character who rape wife and just . People are Jamal Jamal kr rahe hai
This video is far better than Dhruv Rathee's video. I like your opinion with clear points. I hope SRV's next film is even better than his previous work.
Well I personally don't even understand the point of so much controversies surrounding a single movie. Movie dekho, enjoy karo ghar jao that's my formula but now that when it's happening, I'd like to put my two cents too. Well, many of the critics who have criticised Animal movie so much have openly called for banning that film while movies like Thank You For Coming, Four More Shots Please and many others have received rave reviews from these critics only which is so wrong because they show and advocate pseudo-feminism openly. I didn't see any female critic appreciating the movie for its incredible screenplay, range of acting performances, the awesome music, effective use of background score etc etc. Rather, they're busy in naming and publicly shaming this movie and its director Sandeep Vanga. It feels sad to see this hypocrisy. Movies are the reflections of the society and nothing else. As an English Literature Hons student, who's reading so many different kinds of dramas, one drama which stands out is William Shakespeare's Hamlet wherein Hamlet the prince is said to have treated Ophelia like his prized possession and lot of people have criticised Shakespeare for that but why did Shakespeare, who's such a genius playwright, actually wrote that scene???? Only because it was happening in real life medieval 15th century Europe. If we see clearly, the whole character trait of Ranvijay has been shown and written in a way to portray that NEVER BECOME SOMEONE LIKE HIM. Ranvijay is a cheater, he's a psychopath and a violent man and all that Vanga has shown is to portray to us that he's a bad figure. People in India unfortunately are too naive to understand that a movie with two negative characters can also be written. Some are saying, Ranvijay didn't suffer enough. Why??? Only because he didn't die. Well don't you think his wife and his kids leaving him is what makes him suffer far more than him actually dying???? He could've died a hero's death but he's shown to be suffering through his life coz his loved ones have forsaken him. One other important thing to note is that, what Rashmika's character did with her real fiancee. If what Ranvijay has done is wrong then why aren't they criticising Rashmika's character for leaving and cheating on her fiancee like that???? Isn't that also wrong?? Lastly, I'd just like to say, just because some misogynistic men exist in our society, it shouldn't happen that movies should not be made. That will be outright undemocratic. If movies like Thank You For Coming can release then so can a movie like Animal who's craft is actually far more formidable than the former one. Movies show our society and there's no need to create any controversies around it. If you become a gangster by seeing a Tarantino film then the problem is in YOUR mentality and NOT Tarantino who's made the film!!
Hi! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Totally agreed, in a democracy there should be freedom to be able to make any kind of art. The film does reflect the current environment of our society. I believe while Rannvijay’s character got what he deserved in the end, his glorification may have overshadowed it. Rashmika’s character was problematic as well, critics should point out that as well when they do a review. Four More Shots Please and Thank You for Coming are equally misleading, and should be viewed carefully.
Each and every word u said is correct. 😌I have seen some dark movies with complex characters. Very few of them earned that amount of box office numbers unlike Kabir singh and animal. Anurag kashyap has more brutality that vanga. Film like Raman raghav 2.0,gangs of wasseypur , no smoking etc all are cult classics but never earned the fat some of money. So glad that animal and Kabir singh atleast earned that
He just not only fired back on Javed Akhtar. He also criticised Kiran Rao and told her that she should criticise Aamir Khan (who’s her ex-husband btw) and see what kind of misogynistic songs he did in the 90s even though the song was only a single song you could find his entire filmography (ladki hai ya chaddi hai, khambe jaisi khadi hai) and Aamir himself called the lyrics out that too years ago and that is the reason, Vanga caught it.
Dhruv rathee is the biggest hypocrite. He trashed Animal for being violent and misogynistic, but he himself has promoted many violent and misogynistic movies through his channel. Lipstick under burka normalizing honey trapping and cheating. Lust stories 2 had women creeping at other man. Those films do not get this much critism that animal got. Infact those films are celebrated as feminist films so I think those films arr problematic than animal. People might not go to watch those films but that doesn't mean people won't watch it in ott, why they don't go to such films and go to films like Animal is bcuz Animal is big and much enterintaining. If u disagree with "films can only change hairstyle not society" statement then how can u say profanity doesn't effect society negatively, there was a old guy in my village, when he sees young girls he'll talk to them in vulgur way and when we ask why do u talk like that he'll say it's a colokial style as a justification. If so the shoe licking scene can also be taken as colokial style because ranbir doesn't make her literally lick the shoe. Today women have job and all women wany to be independent, in our ads they show men cooking, the laws are biased against men, so how are we still in patriachy? By the way, why you don't show your face?
Arjun reddy was criticized constructively in telugu belt! And towards the end preethi had confronted arjun for his rude behaviour during the entire slap wala episode! Arjun was confronted for his arrogance by preethi and was criticised for his anger and impatience by his friend shiva!! And dumb reviewers like you just formed half opinions on that slap wala scene and didn't even care to watch the entire film! Secondly ranvijay from animal had colloquially asked zoya to lick his shoe in response to her words "mai aapse boht pyaar karti hu, mai aapke liye kuch bhi kar sakti hu" . He did not say that thing literally he had said that colloquially in a same manner as the abusive words were used in "MIRZAPUR". And most importantly sandeep reddy vanga doesn't endorse or promote rape rather he is strongly against it, that is why in all 3 of his films there are scenes where molestors are getting brutally beaten. Like in arjun reddy/kabir singh:- the lead character beats the shit out of his lover's molestor and in animal:- the lead character hits the molestors with his car, so you just cannot equate ranvijay's character with that of the barbaric rapists of nirbhaya
Hi! Thank you for your thoughts on the video. I have merely stated the difference in the comments by the two individuals with regards to the elements in the film. I never mentioned Sandeep endorses rape culture, I provided a reference to the barbaric rapists as a symbol of men with a backward mindset. You could see Mukesh Singh's(Nirbhaya's perpetrator) interview to know what I intended to convey and it would not be right to deny that there are still men with a regressive thinking in our society. Also, because the female characters are toxic does not make it just for men to be the same, either behaviors should be condemned and I have mentioned this further in the video as well. I believe we should adhere to healthy debates without being emotional, for a constructive mindset. We could agree to disagree without having the need to blurt out insults.
@@ReelRealReflect the point I want to make is, both the things:- the abuses in mirzapur and ranvijay telling zoya to lick his shoe were colloquial, and secondly, ranvijay was not as regressive as those rapists of nirbhaya ji, a man just preaching other men around him to embrace their manhood(which ranvijay did) is not being regressive and neither does that thing promote rape! Rapists are regressive but those alpha males who embrace their manhood and protect their loved ones around them are not regressive, The fact that one is embracing manhood cannot be appropriated as a reason for the rapist mentality! Rather it will be the same alpha males who would punish the rapists badly. So, neither ranvijay's preachings be considered as regressive and nor can that mindset of him be equated to those of regressive rapists
@@ReelRealReflect and the thing which i wanted to clarify was that, when preethi had confronted arjun towards the end the of film, she was not exhibiting toxic behaviour, rather she was telling arjun the misdeeds he did during the slap wala episode, and was making him realise his mistakes. So I am not advocating that preethi's behaviour gives a reason for arjun to be toxic, and neither do I support arjun's actions during that slap wala episode
I do not agree on your point art is subjective in nature. It is only your opinion you can not force on audience how they like to watch anything. It is violent but some people like it. It is just a film watch it like a film and leave it. Get back to the real world.
Telugu film industry me bhi kuch acchi filme bani hai jinnme women empowerment ko bhi dikhaya gaya hai jaise ki Arundhathi, Rudramadevi, Bahubali: The Conclusion. Pehele thik se study kariye telugu film industry ke baare me.
@@ReelRealReflect What a thriller, violent movie and I really hate the villain ( means he's done a wonderful job ) the plot was nice.. he did get scared because his son is going to see him in that condition.. Waiting for more..
For me, if story would have been good, I would have justified all the violence and alpha male thing but the story was a meh! the best thing about the movie was the music.
Hollywood has way more toxic and misognystic films. Wolf of wall street, 365 days, gone girl, fifty shades of grey, game of thrones, The Boys. These films and series are 100x worse than Animal. Sorry very biased video
There's a difference btw showing flawed characters and then outright glorifying them Wows is pretty similar to animal imo (altho it was more like a dark comedy none of which was menat to be taken seriously) Still It was deservedly bashed by certain critics when it was released How is The boys is worse than animal😅😅usme no one is glorified or justified Each character gets what it deserves Billy butcher treats everyone like shit and that makes him anti hero, no one is singing arjan velli for him in the bg😅 In fact at the end of last season he doesn't have much time to live bcz of his bad decisions While ranvijay in animal gets one" heart transplant" and get healed like a super human😅
@@siddharthverma8975 it was not glorified. No where does the movie tell you to imitate Ranvijay’s actions. He is called mentally unstable and a criminal throughout the film. And movies are not created to tell you what to do. The music reflects mood of the characters. For example the Sikh brothers were supporting Ranvijay during a fight, so would they play Bhaajan or would they sing Arjun vaily? The music reflects mood of the character. If Ranvijay is feeling courageous and brave, the background music can reflect it since we are seeing it from his point of view. In WOWS there were party music and celebratory music throughout, it doesn’t mean it’s glorification it’s showing the point of view of those characters. The office in WOWS had a party like atmosphere, hence party songs will be played instead of sad music. Similarly Ranvijay’s fight was supported by his cousins, so celebratory music like Arjun Vaily will be played since it’s literally being CELEBRATED by side characters! Look at the context and atmosphere, no one’s telling you to imitate the behavior. Even the disclaimer says so!
@@siddharthverma8975 if Ranvijay enters a party and starts jamming while smoking a cigarette and looking cool, no one’s telling you to imitate that! Ranvijay thinks it’s cool, so he acts cool because we are seeing the story from his perspective. If Ranvijay is celebrating his deeds, celebratory music will be played since we are seeing from his point of view! It’s up to you as a viewer with your moral compass whether you support his actions or not. I hope I have made my point clear.
@@siddharthverma8975 ranvijay jab asrar ke logo ko maar raha thaa to arjan vailly islie bajaya jaa raha thaa kyoki wo actually mei akela lad raha thaa warriors ke jaise, aur usne koi innocent aadmi ko nahi maara thaa, usne jitno ko maara thaa wo sab ke sab usko aur uski family ko maarne aaye the! To jab wo criminals ka murder kar raha thaa to usme background mei arjan vailly bajana sahi thaa aur uss aadmi ko glorify karna sahi thaa!! Samjha! Aur ranvijay ki puri movie mei ek hi galti thi ki usne apni biwi pe cheat kiya, aur usko end mei uski biwi chhod ke chali jaati hai, to end mei ranvijay ko wahi mila jo wo deserve karta hai!!
Agar Animal jaisi movies society ke liye dangerous hai toh kya bollywood me jo Chakravyuh, Haider, Ek ladki ko dekha toh aisa laga, Gangubai Kathiawaadi, Thank you for Coming jaisi filme bani hai kya woh society ke liye dangerous nahi hai ? Unn filmo par koi baat kyu nahi karta ?
Agreed. If there are elements that are wrong irrespective of the gender then they should be pointed out. I have mentioned Thank You for Coming in the video, I don’t think it is right either.
This is false equivalency to put "psuedofeminism" and patriarchy at the same line😂 this is childish level of seeing the world. Patriarchy has no gender and its structural It is not an interpersonal mean behaviour kind of thing But "psuedofeminism" is not structural discrimination against amab people (assigned male at birth) Discrimination is only discrimination if its structural not in an interpersonal thing If the interpersonal behaviour treatment coincides with the group that are structurally discriminate against then the interpersonal mean behaviour is also discrimination (castiem,racism,sexim,queerphobhia,etc)
So your point is that "only men can be discriminatory towards women, only white people can be discriminatory towards black people and not vice versa" right? You are a pseudo feminist. You must be a woke woman. "You can't be accept men being victims bcuz you want all the privileges of being the victims for yourself. And by yourself I mean the so called opressesed communities). You want it all for yourself so that you guys can always be the permanent victims for all generanations. That won't happen as long as right wingers are alive. The most practical way to stop discrimination is by not giving reservations based on caste, gender, religion, sexuality or race etc.
Animal bekar movie tab ban jati hai. Jab movie mai bich bich mai comedy hone lag jati hai. Ya bina sar per ke voilent dekha rahe hai. Ranbir ke career ki khoda pahad nikli cuhiya movie ban gayi.
i have watched so many video on movie animal including dhruv rathi video, but till now this is the best explanation of the movie animal on youtube.
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Dhruv rathee is the biggest hypocrite. He trashed Animal for being violent and misogynistic, but he himself has promoted many violent and misogynistic movies through his channel. Lipstick under burka normalizing honey trapping and cheating. Lust stories 2 had women creeping at other man. Those films do not get this much critism that animal got. Infact those films are celebrated as feminist films so I think those films arr problematic than animal. People might not go to watch those films but that doesn't mean people won't watch it in ott, why they don't go to such films and go to films like Animal is bcuz Animal is big and much enterintaining. If u disagree with "films can only change hairstyle not society" statement then how can u say profanity doesn't effect society negatively, there was a old guy in my village, when he sees young girls he'll talk to them in vulgur way and when we ask why do u talk like that he'll say it's a colokial style as a justification. If so the shoe licking scene can also be taken as colokial style because ranbir doesn't make her literally lick the shoe. Today women have job and all women wany to be independent, in our ads they show men cooking, the laws are biased against men, so how are we still in patriachy?
Its a story of a man so driven by the validation from his father, he goes beyond his moral transcendence and loses all sight of right and wrong. In the second half we see his transformation from a typical bollywood hero to a full blown Animal, almost as crazy as the villian itself. Didnt get bored even for a minute through 3 hr runtime. I watched the film like a character study and i loved it
only chappri nibbas will love Animal movie
@@ramakrishna9041 that’s how movies are made in Hollywood. Go get some international exposure. Have you not seen wolf of Wall Street, gone girl, 365 days? Tum chapri ho and it proves it 🤣🤣
@@ramakrishna9041you don't have the brain to feel the movie
If you notice, Vanga’s female characters are also flawed and strong. Rashmika adding extra salt in Ranvijay’s food, slapping him multiple times, screaming at him and leaving him at end. Bobby Deol’s wives smoking (which is not common in commercial cinema) and making fun of her husband’s disability and one admitting she is a gold digger
This movie was not story driven. Its character driven. Its the psyche and unpredictable nature of the character you have to watch
That is an interesting take! Something like The Taxi Driver comes to mind when a movie is character driven, maybe we can see more of that in the next installment of Animal.
Vanga has the potential to be India's modern Tarantino and he's wasting it by being a crybaby.
He definitely does, a Tarantino equivalent for Indian masses! Maybe too early to say but there is still a difference in profoundness between them.
@@ReelRealReflect i dont think so, vanga is yet to get over cliches and make something 100% orginal like quintin ! He is formulatic and generic tbh
Agreed, that’s why he’s a “potential” equivalent 🙂
In Kabir Singh there is a scene where Preeti forces Ksbir Singh to kiss her against his consent. She is also flawed in a way. She does have a stance in the movie. Thats why she also leaves Kabir until he finds her 9 months later. Sorry i find this video very biased
Agree
Well that's what Sandeep did to justify his stance ..in real life also he does that ..consent is very important , violence by anyone should never be justified ...but does it change who in our proportionately impacted by violence in society ..it's women and kids ..when you give that kind of logic of movie , it enables the culture which normalised violence against women ..arey uss ladki ne pehle kuch kiya hoga ..tabhi Aisa hua ...while engaging the very fact that who has more physical power ..
@@victoryv116 the movie did not justify anything. We cannot alwaye have stories on fluffy characters. Sandeep writes stories on toxic characters. Go explore international cinema. Kabir Singh and Animal come nowhere close to the toxicity shown in hollywood. Movies can show toxic relationships because toxic relationships exist in real life
@@Lazymath007_ I have heard this amateure argument been made ..that movies cannot be preachy all happy or fluffy , they should explore dark realities , show violence or dark themes ..the people who made this argument in reference to animal and Kabir singh infact do not have any knowledge on language of cinema and story telling...art cannot be separated from artist nor from it audience ..it doesn't exist in limbo ..good art is always about truth of humans our civilisation and our dark nature ...because of this reason those preachy movies were not regarded good cinema because they try to impose the belief in their audience, even if they are based on moral subject ..fluffy doesn't tell you the reality of relationship , it's a fantasy ...however Tarantino turns out be great because explores the truth , in inglourious bastard , scene in cinema hall where nazis are applauding on seeing violence on the enemy in the movie , was infact the commentary on us that how we as masses became insensitive towards violence if we are brain washed to think it's justified...that's a masterpiece..I can give more example like clock work orange and all that ...but I am too lazy to write ..however Sandeep venga Reddy is not telling you any truth ...animal is not dark movie , it's simply stupid and thriving on mentality of toxic masculinity , that's it ..no character arcs , no genuine stakes, stakes were artificial just to worship this man , no theme, toxic relationship does exist but why to put romantic songs behind it , why to feel sympathetic for character if they are toxic, he should have shown us the truth , that was simply normalising the toxicity .....mysogyny is lucrative business nowadays ..there are many buyers of it ..I am film student so don't tell me about movies
Most nuanced discussion on the film i have seen tbh
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@@ReelRealReflect Good luck
I totally agree that the film story kind of got lost in between and it does not seem like Father Son movie at all as how it was promoted. Though I still loved the movie as I feel shots are very tight, fanstastic music and transitions were good too. But looking from a lense of how it was promoted, it's aine that movie. Though I feel Sandeep is extremely talented and knows his craft, but got a bit lost midway in the story. I do look forward to more from him.
Hi! That’s right. Hopefully we get to see more depth in the characters from him in his upcoming projects.
His direction and editing were great in that movie. There were certain references of hitler too. So I believe he is great in the genre of action and brutality in indian cinema. Complex characters and world building are something I love the most. Film justifies the title too.
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Bhediya bro has more nuanced videos on films than any other youtuber I have seen to this point .
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@@ReelRealReflect sure brother and would spread the word in another cinephiles as well.
Rashmika’s character was written strongly in Animal, she wasnt just eye candy. She slapped Ranvijay multiple times, called him out on his actions and left him at the end. Totally disagree with your point
Eye candy, glamour doll word sirf indian media m use hota h mene kabhi western critic's ko ye word use karte huye nhi dekha h😂
Yes.. You're right.. She's sooooo strong, yaar.. She married an alpha male, doing s*x with him just after his violent works and forgot everything.. She maintained her high class status, even though she knew that her husband is a mobster.. At the end, when her husband cheated on her, she realised that its a high time to fight.. And, doing what? Again s*x with him.. She even doesn't have any integrity.. A pathetic character..
12:04 the people in so-called developed and progressive countries like america had loved animal so much that many of the film's tickets were sold in black
Begusarai me black hui hongi animal ki tickets woh toh India me hi h na
@@siddharthverma8975 mai america ki baat kar raha hu ki udhar tickets black mei biki hai! Tu begusarai kyu pahuch gaya?
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"Lick my shoe" wale scene mei jab zoya kehti hai ki mai aapke liye kuch bhi kar sakti hu, tab jaake ranvijay colloquially kehta hai "lick my shoe" aur uske baad wo waha se chala jaata hai! Agar wo literally bolta to wo sach mei joote chatwaata!! Usne colloquially kaha thaa
Yes
Tumara ye logic ek aam admi ko nhi samaj me ayega jab ap pura film me ek character ko glorify karte ho to then apko ye samaj nhi atta
And the word u used was out of my world 🤣
People are encouraging misogynistic characters more as the box office collection of kabir singh and animal are too high. So we cant say that north indian audience are not backward. They love violence, gore and brutality. Its truth. U can write a lot of things in social media but u cant ddny this fact.
Maybe the film made huge box office numbers simply because people wanted to witness what the hype was really about and ended up not liking it? Regardless, Sandeep did strike the right chord with film elements so catchy that it created a dichotomy of the film watching masses
Hum daily movies ya cinema ke bare mai sochtey ya baat kartey.
Or phir mai ek chij par focus karta hoon
Ki bollywood ya indian chinema mai variety of movies sayad hi banti hai.
Or Hollywood mai ek saal mai hi har variety ki movie ki ek na ek movie jaroor banti hai.
Koi indian director ya actor ko batao bhai.
Cinemaan did a 52 min analysis on the movie the then title was "why animal feels different"
And towards the end he also mentions a number of ways the movie could be WAYY better
And befreak made a video on why characters like Ranvijay, Kabir agrees so famous and hit (long story short it's associated with the many Characteristics that often come with great grey shade characters, anti heros etc, like confidence, fearlessness, etc)
I think its not the movie it's the distribution of Indian society ...
Movie tier 1 .. watch it and go back normal
Movie teir 3.. somehow get impressed ... and their inner thoughts matches the character...
Me I can watch brutality blood cuts it excites my inner thoughts ... does that mean I'm really that kind of guy...
But.. the boby character who rape wife and just .
People are Jamal Jamal kr rahe hai
So much scrutiny on a South Indian difector, nothing gets discussed about trash directors from Mumbai like Sajid Khan.
You just spoke my mind
Jabardast.. and impressive
Tu jammi pants ka koi rishtedaar hai... Ya bichda hua bhai😂
Itna clarity hai thoughts mein...tau... bina mask pehne vlogs karo bhai🤗
Hi! Thanks for the kind comment, appreciate it! I like Jammy’s work, but not in any way related to him. Maybe some day I will reveal 🙂 stay tuned
I agree with you and also disagree on few points but it's intresting keep it up bro I like your thoughts and I subscribe your channel ❤🙏
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This video is far better than Dhruv Rathee's video. I like your opinion with clear points. I hope SRV's next film is even better than his previous work.
Thank you! 🙏
Well I personally don't even understand the point of so much controversies surrounding a single movie. Movie dekho, enjoy karo ghar jao that's my formula but now that when it's happening, I'd like to put my two cents too. Well, many of the critics who have criticised Animal movie so much have openly called for banning that film while movies like Thank You For Coming, Four More Shots Please and many others have received rave reviews from these critics only which is so wrong because they show and advocate pseudo-feminism openly. I didn't see any female critic appreciating the movie for its incredible screenplay, range of acting performances, the awesome music, effective use of background score etc etc. Rather, they're busy in naming and publicly shaming this movie and its director Sandeep Vanga. It feels sad to see this hypocrisy. Movies are the reflections of the society and nothing else. As an English Literature Hons student, who's reading so many different kinds of dramas, one drama which stands out is William Shakespeare's Hamlet wherein Hamlet the prince is said to have treated Ophelia like his prized possession and lot of people have criticised Shakespeare for that but why did Shakespeare, who's such a genius playwright, actually wrote that scene???? Only because it was happening in real life medieval 15th century Europe. If we see clearly, the whole character trait of Ranvijay has been shown and written in a way to portray that NEVER BECOME SOMEONE LIKE HIM. Ranvijay is a cheater, he's a psychopath and a violent man and all that Vanga has shown is to portray to us that he's a bad figure. People in India unfortunately are too naive to understand that a movie with two negative characters can also be written. Some are saying, Ranvijay didn't suffer enough. Why??? Only because he didn't die. Well don't you think his wife and his kids leaving him is what makes him suffer far more than him actually dying???? He could've died a hero's death but he's shown to be suffering through his life coz his loved ones have forsaken him. One other important thing to note is that, what Rashmika's character did with her real fiancee. If what Ranvijay has done is wrong then why aren't they criticising Rashmika's character for leaving and cheating on her fiancee like that???? Isn't that also wrong?? Lastly, I'd just like to say, just because some misogynistic men exist in our society, it shouldn't happen that movies should not be made. That will be outright undemocratic. If movies like Thank You For Coming can release then so can a movie like Animal who's craft is actually far more formidable than the former one. Movies show our society and there's no need to create any controversies around it. If you become a gangster by seeing a Tarantino film then the problem is in YOUR mentality and NOT Tarantino who's made the film!!
Hi! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Totally agreed, in a democracy there should be freedom to be able to make any kind of art. The film does reflect the current environment of our society. I believe while Rannvijay’s character got what he deserved in the end, his glorification may have overshadowed it. Rashmika’s character was problematic as well, critics should point out that as well when they do a review. Four More Shots Please and Thank You for Coming are equally misleading, and should be viewed carefully.
Each and every word u said is correct. 😌I have seen some dark movies with complex characters. Very few of them earned that amount of box office numbers unlike Kabir singh and animal. Anurag kashyap has more brutality that vanga. Film like Raman raghav 2.0,gangs of wasseypur , no smoking etc all are cult classics but never earned the fat some of money. So glad that animal and Kabir singh atleast earned that
He just not only fired back on Javed Akhtar. He also criticised Kiran Rao and told her that she should criticise Aamir Khan (who’s her ex-husband btw) and see what kind of misogynistic songs he did in the 90s even though the song was only a single song you could find his entire filmography (ladki hai ya chaddi hai, khambe jaisi khadi hai) and Aamir himself called the lyrics out that too years ago and that is the reason, Vanga caught it.
Dhruv rathee is the biggest hypocrite. He trashed Animal for being violent and misogynistic, but he himself has promoted many violent and misogynistic movies through his channel. Lipstick under burka normalizing honey trapping and cheating. Lust stories 2 had women creeping at other man. Those films do not get this much critism that animal got. Infact those films are celebrated as feminist films so I think those films arr problematic than animal. People might not go to watch those films but that doesn't mean people won't watch it in ott, why they don't go to such films and go to films like Animal is bcuz Animal is big and much enterintaining. If u disagree with "films can only change hairstyle not society" statement then how can u say profanity doesn't effect society negatively, there was a old guy in my village, when he sees young girls he'll talk to them in vulgur way and when we ask why do u talk like that he'll say it's a colokial style as a justification. If so the shoe licking scene can also be taken as colokial style because ranbir doesn't make her literally lick the shoe. Today women have job and all women wany to be independent, in our ads they show men cooking, the laws are biased against men, so how are we still in patriachy? By the way, why you don't show your face?
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Arjun reddy was criticized constructively in telugu belt! And towards the end preethi had confronted arjun for his rude behaviour during the entire slap wala episode! Arjun was confronted for his arrogance by preethi and was criticised for his anger and impatience by his friend shiva!! And dumb reviewers like you just formed half opinions on that slap wala scene and didn't even care to watch the entire film! Secondly ranvijay from animal had colloquially asked zoya to lick his shoe in response to her words "mai aapse boht pyaar karti hu, mai aapke liye kuch bhi kar sakti hu" . He did not say that thing literally he had said that colloquially in a same manner as the abusive words were used in "MIRZAPUR".
And most importantly sandeep reddy vanga doesn't endorse or promote rape rather he is strongly against it, that is why in all 3 of his films there are scenes where molestors are getting brutally beaten. Like in arjun reddy/kabir singh:- the lead character beats the shit out of his lover's molestor and in animal:- the lead character hits the molestors with his car, so you just cannot equate ranvijay's character with that of the barbaric rapists of nirbhaya
Hi! Thank you for your thoughts on the video. I have merely stated the difference in the comments by the two individuals with regards to the elements in the film. I never mentioned Sandeep endorses rape culture, I provided a reference to the barbaric rapists as a symbol of men with a backward mindset. You could see Mukesh Singh's(Nirbhaya's perpetrator) interview to know what I intended to convey and it would not be right to deny that there are still men with a regressive thinking in our society. Also, because the female characters are toxic does not make it just for men to be the same, either behaviors should be condemned and I have mentioned this further in the video as well.
I believe we should adhere to healthy debates without being emotional, for a constructive mindset. We could agree to disagree without having the need to blurt out insults.
@@ReelRealReflect the point I want to make is, both the things:- the abuses in mirzapur and ranvijay telling zoya to lick his shoe were colloquial,
and secondly, ranvijay was not as regressive as those rapists of nirbhaya ji, a man just preaching other men around him to embrace their manhood(which ranvijay did) is not being regressive and neither does that thing promote rape!
Rapists are regressive but those alpha males who embrace their manhood and protect their loved ones around them are not regressive,
The fact that one is embracing manhood cannot be appropriated as a reason for the rapist mentality! Rather it will be the same alpha males who would punish the rapists badly.
So, neither ranvijay's preachings be considered as regressive and nor can that mindset of him be equated to those of regressive rapists
@@ReelRealReflect and the thing which i wanted to clarify was that, when preethi had confronted arjun towards the end the of film, she was not exhibiting toxic behaviour, rather she was telling arjun the misdeeds he did during the slap wala episode, and was making him realise his mistakes. So I am not advocating that preethi's behaviour gives a reason for arjun to be toxic, and neither do I support arjun's actions during that slap wala episode
I do not agree on your point art is subjective in nature. It is only your opinion you can not force on audience how they like to watch anything. It is violent but some people like it. It is just a film watch it like a film and leave it. Get back to the real world.
Telugu film industry me bhi kuch acchi filme bani hai jinnme women empowerment ko bhi dikhaya gaya hai jaise ki Arundhathi, Rudramadevi, Bahubali: The Conclusion. Pehele thik se study kariye telugu film industry ke baare me.
Your feedback is appreciated! However, there are always exceptions to the rule, but it does not invalidate the generality of a situation.
Wonderful Remark.. I will definitely watch I Saw The Devil..
Let us know how you like it!
@@ReelRealReflect What a thriller, violent movie and I really hate the villain ( means he's done a wonderful job ) the plot was nice.. he did get scared because his son is going to see him in that condition..
Waiting for more..
What are your thoughts?
For me, if story would have been good, I would have justified all the violence and alpha male thing but the story was a meh!
the best thing about the movie was the music.
@@Helium_z2 Agreed! It had the potential but fell short
Quality content and soo true
Thank you!🙏🏽
Tarentino ka aakri film ka naam hai "the critic"
Totally agreed!
It is actually weird to see people defend this movie as if their life depends on it.
Hollywood has way more toxic and misognystic films. Wolf of wall street, 365 days, gone girl, fifty shades of grey, game of thrones, The Boys. These films and series are 100x worse than Animal. Sorry very biased video
There's a difference btw showing flawed characters and then outright glorifying them
Wows is pretty similar to animal imo
(altho it was more like a dark comedy none of which was menat to be taken seriously)
Still It was deservedly bashed by certain critics when it was released
How is The boys is worse than animal😅😅usme no one is glorified or justified
Each character gets what it deserves
Billy butcher treats everyone like shit and that makes him anti hero, no one is singing arjan velli for him in the bg😅
In fact at the end of last season he doesn't have much time to live bcz of his bad decisions
While ranvijay in animal gets one" heart transplant" and get healed like a super human😅
@@siddharthverma8975 it was not glorified. No where does the movie tell you to imitate Ranvijay’s actions. He is called mentally unstable and a criminal throughout the film. And movies are not created to tell you what to do. The music reflects mood of the characters. For example the Sikh brothers were supporting Ranvijay during a fight, so would they play Bhaajan or would they sing Arjun vaily? The music reflects mood of the character. If Ranvijay is feeling courageous and brave, the background music can reflect it since we are seeing it from his point of view. In WOWS there were party music and celebratory music throughout, it doesn’t mean it’s glorification it’s showing the point of view of those characters. The office in WOWS had a party like atmosphere, hence party songs will be played instead of sad music. Similarly Ranvijay’s fight was supported by his cousins, so celebratory music like Arjun Vaily will be played since it’s literally being CELEBRATED by side characters! Look at the context and atmosphere, no one’s telling you to imitate the behavior. Even the disclaimer says so!
@@siddharthverma8975 if Ranvijay enters a party and starts jamming while smoking a cigarette and looking cool, no one’s telling you to imitate that! Ranvijay thinks it’s cool, so he acts cool because we are seeing the story from his perspective. If Ranvijay is celebrating his deeds, celebratory music will be played since we are seeing from his point of view! It’s up to you as a viewer with your moral compass whether you support his actions or not. I hope I have made my point clear.
@@siddharthverma8975 ranvijay jab asrar ke logo ko maar raha thaa to arjan vailly islie bajaya jaa raha thaa kyoki wo actually mei akela lad raha thaa warriors ke jaise, aur usne koi innocent aadmi ko nahi maara thaa, usne jitno ko maara thaa wo sab ke sab usko aur uski family ko maarne aaye the! To jab wo criminals ka murder kar raha thaa to usme background mei arjan vailly bajana sahi thaa aur uss aadmi ko glorify karna sahi thaa!! Samjha! Aur ranvijay ki puri movie mei ek hi galti thi ki usne apni biwi pe cheat kiya, aur usko end mei uski biwi chhod ke chali jaati hai, to end mei ranvijay ko wahi mila jo wo deserve karta hai!!
what about spirit???
Agar Animal jaisi movies society ke liye dangerous hai toh kya bollywood me jo Chakravyuh, Haider, Ek ladki ko dekha toh aisa laga, Gangubai Kathiawaadi, Thank you for Coming jaisi filme bani hai kya woh society ke liye dangerous nahi hai ? Unn filmo par koi baat kyu nahi karta ?
Agreed. If there are elements that are wrong irrespective of the gender then they should be pointed out. I have mentioned Thank You for Coming in the video, I don’t think it is right either.
This is false equivalency to put "psuedofeminism" and patriarchy at the same line😂 this is childish level of seeing the world.
Patriarchy has no gender and its structural
It is not an interpersonal mean behaviour kind of thing
But "psuedofeminism" is not structural discrimination against amab people (assigned male at birth)
Discrimination is only discrimination if its structural not in an interpersonal thing
If the interpersonal behaviour treatment coincides with the group that are structurally discriminate against then the interpersonal mean behaviour is also discrimination (castiem,racism,sexim,queerphobhia,etc)
So your point is that "only men can be discriminatory towards women, only white people can be discriminatory towards black people and not vice versa" right? You are a pseudo feminist. You must be a woke woman.
"You can't be accept men being victims bcuz you want all the privileges of being the victims for yourself. And by yourself I mean the so called opressesed communities). You want it all for yourself so that you guys can always be the permanent victims for all generanations. That won't happen as long as right wingers are alive. The most practical way to stop discrimination is by not giving reservations based on caste, gender, religion, sexuality or race etc.
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Animal bekar movie tab ban jati hai.
Jab movie mai bich bich mai comedy hone lag jati hai.
Ya bina sar per ke voilent dekha rahe hai.
Ranbir ke career ki khoda pahad nikli cuhiya movie ban gayi.
Brother I like your content, but here i don't agree with you.
Hi! Appreciate you stating it, the very objective of me making videos is having a healthy debate. Which part do you specifically not agree with?
Bro Just Imagine your name is You and my name is Me Who is Fool you or me?
Haha funny
another fabulous video
Thank you 🙏🏽
SANDEEP VANGA DID NOT GLORIFIED RANVIJAY BALBIR