Geographies of Racial Capitalism with Ruth Wilson Gilmore - An Antipode Foundation film
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- Geographies of Racial Capitalism with Ruth Wilson Gilmore
An Antipode Foundation film directed by Kenton Card
Executive Producers: Kenton Card and Tony Castle
Director: Kenton Card
In association with BFD Productions (www.bfdnyc.com/)
Supervising Producer: Benjamin Garst
Cinematographer: Alice Plati
Editor: Benjamin Garst
Assistant Editors: Cyrus Stowe and Alice Plati
Creative Consultant: Carrie Drapac
Music provided by Audio Network
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License (CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 - creativecommons.org/licenses/b...)
I was fortunate to have had Dr Wilson Gilmore as an undergrad at UCLA almost 30 years ago when I was a naive teenager. She inspired me to pursue African American studies at the graduate level, hoping I could obtain a fraction of the knowledge she possessed.
It is a pleasure after all this time to have this seminar with her again. I feel towards her the way others feel about movie stars or athletes and am star struck when I read her work, dazzled at the way she breaks down and explains information in ways that seem effortless yet belie years of study, practice and dedication. I hope she will read this and know the impression she made on my life personally and professionally as I teach undergrads and hope to provide them a even a fraction of the inspiration and insight that Dr Wilson Gilmore provided me. Thank you.
She ruined your mind and prevented you from learning the truth. You should study Thomas Sowell if you want to learn how wrong she is.
00:24
The relationship between slavery and race race and unfreedom, unfreedom and labor is one that we constantly try to untangle and, at our peril, we ignore it but, also at our peril, we make it too simplistic because the complexity of it matters for what we do in the current moment to undo the catastrophe of mass incarceration. So, I go down this path of trying to think globally in order to think about how today, given the catastrophe of racial capitalism on a world scale, its particular form of austerity and neoliberalism and permanent war that we struggle through requires an approach to solving problems that, however particular or local they are, have an international dimension, because it is an international problem. Capitalism requires inequality and racism enshrines it.
01:43
My name is Ruth Wilson Gilmore. I have been a teacher and a researcher into especially the prison industrial complex, but, in order to investigate that, I've had to lift up from that certain general themes that are very exciting that we're going to be able to explore in our conversation, including racial capitalism, which is all of capitalism, abolition geography, and my role as a teacher in the university and in the streets.
02:11
Racial capitalism, which is to say all capitalism, is not a thing, it's a relation. However, if we look back through the history of capitalism as it developed, we see that the understanding that those who own the means of production had of their differences from those whose labor they exploited were understandings that we can recognize today as racial practice.
02:48
So, all capitalism is racial from its beginning, which is to say, the capitalism that we have inherited-- that it's constantly producing and reproducing itself, and it will continue to depend on racial practice and racial hierarchy no matter what. This is another way of saying we can't undo racism without undoing capitalism.
03:23
Being a good geographer means going to look and see, and then to challenge oneself in one's description of what we want to see. But, politically, it is giving all of the attention you have to the thing, so that you understand how it works.
03:43
The word discovery doesn't sit well with anybody who knows anything about the history of the world, and yet people flock here to this Monument, unaware or uncaring about its fascist dimensions. Unaware or uncaring about the compass rose that is behind it that was a gift of the Apartheid government of South Africa to the fascist government of Portugal in the mid 1960s. Can we try to redescribe this world that has been described in these particular ways in this tourist location with this monument and this pavement.
04:21
Slavery and the slave trade-- it's not something that was initiated when some people who became known as Europeans encountered some people who became known as Africans and grabbed them. It was never limited to African slavery, and, in fact, we ought take more seriously than perhaps we do, the fact of intra-- what we call today European-- slavery as being one of the forces that shaped the modern world.
4:47
The foundations of racial capitalism, the foundations of the social organization of human groupings in Western Europe during the rise of capitalism. They don't have anything to do with Africa, Asia, North America, or South America. They have to do with what was happening here in Europe between people all of whose descendants might have become white. I mean, that is the major lesson of racial capitalism, and why does that matter? It matters because capitalism won't stop being racial capitalism, if all the white people disappear from the story.
05:26
Capitalism requires inequality, and racism enshrines it. It started racial without what people imagined race to mean, which is black people, and it will continue to be racial without what people imagine the not-race to be, which is white people
05:59
My expertise is on the expansion of criminalization and incarceration in the United States, and by extension their expansion in the capitalist world, why and how that has happened, and what we can do to undo that.
6:19
So, I set myself the task of understanding what had happened in California between say the mid-1970s, when anything could have emerged as a solution to surplus labor, and what actually happened starting in the early 1980s in which California started to build prison, after prison, after prison, after prison, when it could have built universities, or factories, or veterans housing, or parks, or museums, or anything else. So, prisons then in my view concentrate surpluses. I asked questions about how the relatively powerful local elites used the state to get what they want. So that brings us back to the question of criminalization.
7:18
There has to be a steady stream of criminals, of those eligible to be categorized as criminal. They have to keep coming. And so that-- that group has to either get bigger over time or deeper over time. The sentences have to be longer, the list of behaviors that count as crime have got to grow, people, who having been caught up in the system, to get out of it, which is to say to go back home, if they can go home, and be there, what people call "reentry," a word I hate, but to go home and be there and be in a community and of it, is as part of how the perpetuation of this category "criminal", that is the basis of the prison industrial complex, can perpetuate itself. The relationship of that to slavery is on the one hand very general and freedom is like freedom and, on the other hand, the racial order and hierarchy of the United States, founded on both slavery and genocide, never stopped reproducing itself through all of its iterations
over time.
8:40
Abolition geography is always a presence everywhere, and when I say, "Ah, we're gonna abolish prisons," and they get frightened, and that in becoming frightened say, "Well, let's then think about why this is so frightening," and it has to do with all of these other things that we haven't been talking about. How come California stopped building prisons after having built and opened a new prison year in and year out every year for 23 years? And the answer is, it was abolitionists!
09:23
All liberation struggle is place-based liberation struggle. The scale, the scale might differ wildly and the size might differ wildly, but it's all place-based. Liberation struggle is specific to the needs and the struggles of people where they are, and that "where" has many many dimensions.
9:48
We've left the municipality of Lisbon, and come into, or shortly will come into, the next municipality which is called Amadora, and, while a good deal of the housing here was privately developed and some significant chunk of it was socially developed, which is to say what we would call in the United States, "public housing", there are also numerous neighborhoods that, over decades, and decades, and decades, were built by the people who live there. So, some will call those informal settlements, others will call those self-built housing. The point is not merely that they're shelters, but that they're communities.
10:37
People in Cova da Moura in self-built houses discovered that they were under threat of losing their homes, and therefore losing their entire community, because none of their houses were up to code. The municipality, where they're located, promised that everybody would get a new house, in some social housing project, somewhere, that would be adequate, and people said, "No, no, no, no, you don't understand, we want to live here. This is our home; not just the house, this is our home. This community is our home; we have people and resources here."
11:11
So, people start to organize themselves, not only to save their houses, which was the number one impetus to organizing, but also to understand how come we, of all of the people of Greater Lisbon, are under threat of losing our community and our home? What is it about us? At the same time, they developed study groups to understand. not just about their local vulnerability or how the city government works, that kind of thing, but also about the history of colonialism, the history of racism, the current history of citizenship in the EU as it has changed over time.
11:53
"Fortress Europe." All of these things became part of their own study program, and they debate all the time, and they create these institutions, that I have come to call pop-up universities. I was invited to be a part of this intellectual political community by way of, first, a personal relationship that I was developing, and then by way of the people who do organizing up here, and I became part of them.
12:27
Although the doors are very modest, the meeting space is quite capacious, and then we're probably, I'd say, 50 or 60 people here to talk about prisons and policing, but also to talk about things like African history, and political economy, and culture, and social life, everything. Like, everything that matters to people, we discuss in there. It's really interesting.
[Flavio Amalda: Interesting.]
12:57
Ruth: I will be-- I would like to see what you think. People ask very tough questions, then there are people who bring their already existing theoretical, political commitments to the debate, but they argue it through, and nobody says, "Well, if you're not gonna agree with me, I'm leaving, and never coming back." Not at all.
[Flavio: No, no, no.]
Ruth: It's a very, very, very deep debate, that's held together by the purpose of the movement.
13:25
[Flavio: Was wonderful what we, we learn here with Ruthy. Oh, I used to say usually that, every time-- every time that she's speaking, I lose the weight in my head. That's the way I describe it. So deeply and so clear.]
13:49
Ruth: When we have a university here, a lot of people come, and it isn't one way.
13:56
[Flavio: Sometimes in academia happened that people just stay there, and listen, and don't say, but here was a big debate, a discussion, and some people agree, some people disagree, but it was very important, because it is the way that you you can move forward.]
14:12
Ruth: We have to be attentive to the many, many different kinds of factors: institutions, places, and processes, through which people come to consciousness through fomenting liberation struggle.
14:34
It's a form of solidarity, and it's making solidarity, and solidarity is something that's made, and remade, and remade, it never just is. And I think of that, in terms of radical dependency, that we come absolutely to depend on each other. And so, solidarity and this radical dependency that I keep thinking about and keep singing everywhere is about life, and living, and living together. And living together in rather beautiful ways. And that's something that I have encountered on this hilltop, and why I like it here so much.
15:17
Ruth: Ah, I love you so much.
[Flavio: You, too. Love you.]
Ruth: And it's possible, it's really possible, and not in a romanticized way, but, you know, material, deliberate, consciousness exploding. It's possible.
@@Marzipanhen I love this. Is it possible to edit, however, and name the man that was with Ruth? His name is Flavio Amalda.
@@chinyere8882 Thank you for letting me know ! I missed his name. These are corrected auto-subtitles, so apologies if I missed anything else. :)
"So, all capitalism is racial from its beginning, which is to say, the capitalism that we have inherited-- that it's constantly producing and reproducing itself, and it will continue to depend on racial practice and racial hierarchy no matter what. This is another way of saying we can't undo racism without undoing capitalism."
I'm interested in this and looking for a more in depth answer of why. Is it about inherited inequality? Would capitalism still be the enemy if we had started from an equal place?
@@Cassaroll168 Capitalism requires inequality in order to continue-- there have to be multiple classes of people. I'd argue that if you started with a group of people who all had the same resources, social capital, -- everything was equal-- and placed the in a capitalist system, capitalism would stratify them. With capitalism, the goal is to extract as much profit from as little labor as possible and acquire capital/property-- it's a system inherently designed to exploit others, and it doesn't workwithout the devaluation of human life.
idk if I explained that well
This was the BEST sociology “class” I have ever taken. First time in which I took actual notes, like a student, for a CZcams video. Thank you Dr. Wilson-Gilmore, I hope your work and study on Racial Capitalism, Abolition Geography, and Radical Dependency, revolutionizes the world. It can change the world and inject some much needed humanity into those who need it.
Seriously 👍🏾
Love RWG.
@@revolutionishereI know her
Just finished my notes. ❤
"Radical dependency" what an incredible word and idea
and complete nonsense
numnut1987 what do you mean?
@@drdread9896 because if you break down black people in to their cultures, some of them out preform white and asian and some dont.
numnut1987 ok but how is it “complete” nonsense? You’re white right?
Yea it evolves the idea of community to another level. I think this is harder to accomplish in a more materialistic and individualistic society like in America.
Would you like to add a caption? One that is not automatically generated, so that deaf and foreign people can watch the video more easily.
I support this. Caption is utterly critical.
I was able to correct the captions, but the video won't allow me to add them, so I added them as paragraphs in a comment.
@@Marzipanhen I saw it and I am very grateful. Now I can translate it into Portuguese and pass it on to other people.
Thank you!
@@esdrasbezerra2587 That's awesome to hear!!
"more easily" ? one has to simply say 'easily' - just like we never say more better.
just seeing all those wonderful embraces made me feel that covid isolation/pain of social distancing so much more acutely...I remember hugs, hugs were nice!
Real talk and from what I recall always perceptive and deep. I will always remember the hand clap poem, "...a sailor went to see, see, see..."
Amazing scholar and educator. Thank you for sharing your intellect in this way and for this Purpose.
This was such a powerful and educational piece. It inspires love, struggle, appreciation for “radical dependency.” Thank you 🙏.
14:36-15:04. This quote. Such a great film
Thanks for posting; the Grad Center at CUNY is an oasis of wisdom, understanding and knowledge. I am thankful for this place. The leading edge of 'communications' with undergrad degrees in 'interpersonal communication' offered more than 30 years ago provided a solid foundation for a very necessary field of study. Thanks again.
'capitalism requires inequality. racism enshrines it.' (Ruth W Gilmore)
This is when I really LOVE youtube!
Are you aware of any instances in the history of the human race when any people other than Africans were enslaved?
@@actionflower6706 Yes.
sieprgmr Aha! Siepgmr, I have successfully identified you as a thought criminal. What you say is true, but it is a problematic bit of truth that suggests that slavery and Africa are two related but separate phenomenae. The implication that ALL members of the human race emerge from an deeply ancient history of slavery is true...but you must not think about it. Get on your knees, admit your inalienable guilt for being born and beg for punishment. That will make things better.
Action Flower what the hell are you talking about
I toughly enjoyed this film and if you reading this, Ruth Wilson Gilmore, thank you, merci.
I am a black American with international roots; Caribbean (Jamaica), African and Western Europe. Educationally I’ve studied race and race relations concentrating on the antebellum period in America, the Harlem Resonance, Nigerian Independence, and South African Independence, but I digress.
During this COVID pandemic and civil rights revolution in America, I’ve revisited the writings of some old and new friends; namely James Baldwin, WEB Du Bois, Kwame Nkrumah, Malcolm X, Eric Fonner, Ronald Takaki, as well as Ibram X Kendi, but again I digress.
I wanted to share that I love how you created your avenues and linked the information of the Geographies of Racial Capitalism, it’s important. To that end, I just wanted to share that I agree with you and wish you well.
I love this so much! I was wondering if you could edit the captions so that it can be more accessible to all that need to be aware of this 💖💖
Love this work - Ruth Wilson Gilmore!!!
"Life and living, and living together and living together in rather beautiful ways."
@14:39 - Solidarity is made and remade. It never just is.
brilliant, even in just a few minutes radically improved my understanding of race and capitalism. even those of us 'intelligent' people are so buried in layers of historical propaganda and social amnesia we often can't see the obvious contradictions and injustices in our culture of command and control. thank you
Wow. What a powerhouse she is!
The music soundtrack is fine when she is not talking. At other times it drowns out her voice. Her ideas are powerful enough without the music. Can you adjust this, especially at the beginning? 🙏
Law of Perspective lol I hear you. I guess I subscribe to Toni Morrison’s point of view: listen to music OR write - can’t do both. In this case, I listen to music or to words. Each demands my full attention 🙏
Excellent video 👍🏿
Thank you❤️
thank you for this video
this is a very power & potent video, thank you
This video opened my eyes in big ways.
Yes, keep getting information and make your own conclusions. Because you are becoming aware, people will use fear tactics, name calling, and any other means to deter you make you think you're anti Whatever. More and more people are awaking. Only the people can make a change. I hope that we all break free one day. We all don't only deserve it, but need it.
💜 Ruth Wilson Gilmore and Flavio Almada
Thank you
Inspiring.Thanks for sharing
This great video NEEDS Portuguese subtitles.
Thank you, so important to put the political economy back into current questions of race and racism.
“...we can’t undo racism without undoing capitalism “ was the main message that echoed in my head. In capitalism, some people are on top and other people are on the bottom. It just never occurred to me how racism plays a role in this system. The question I have is, if you are born into a race that is being used to support capitalism, how do you get out of this trap? Many ideas come to my mind as pathways to true freedom. Thank you for sharing this message 👏🏽
Oh my! Amazing production.
Thank you for sharing :)
" Capitalism requires inequality, racism enshrines it ". Philosophically spot on and morally challenging, these six words speak volumes about the de-evolution of modern society.
A=C, C=B, but C does not equal B. Did you know that Adam Smith, the father of capitalism, was the one to link ethics and economics?
@@MildredBonkers if adam smith was the first human being to link ethics and economics and to bring that link out into cultural thought, i have my doubts as to whether we would have ever had the wherewithal to do something like producing bronze, or herding goats.
@@benoplustee he was actually the first to blend ethics and finance, creating economics.
@@benoplustee also, why do you have your doubts? The Enlightenment Period was a crazy time 🤪
@@MildredBonkers I'm saying that wedding ethics to economics is a tale as old as time! Otherwise wed never have managed to build communities together!
Very educational. I actually learned a lot from this video. Thank you, Dr. Gilmoore
every word rwg speaks is worth writing down. wow. She is so youthful & spry? lol. It's the vivacity that comes from knowing you're DAMN right!!!!!
i know!! just seeing her talk is so invigorating!! and when she is hugging and walking with her friend... ah!!
@@juleswoudenberg7626 she is the right kind of person to follow into the revolution
this isn't just relevant, interesting ad important but it's also sweet, kind, and adorable :}
Capitalism requires inequality, racism enshrines it. You can't undo racism without undoing capitalism. Wow!
I am so happy I clicked on this video. Remarkable.
Motivational!!!
Excellent delivery. I wish Dr. Gilmore had explained the role of the Catholic Church and the popes of the fifteenth century condoning and authorizing domination and dehumanization by means of papal edicts giving the seal of approval to slavery and devastation. That is an important piece of the puzzle.
Steven but ,what church did not do but Google.
Bilal ibn rabh symbol of humanity.
The v first free slave at highest ever price paid to condem slavery.
How about profit-sharing with all workers?
Go Ruthie!
UM YES
13:35 my guy!
These restaurants are giving out less and less portions of food but raising the prices.Governments are raising taxes but working wages are not going up.Property owners are raising rent all over the globe but employers are not adjusting pay for inflation and @ the same the expectations & production/output goes up for you without hiring any extra hands....if A.I can do a better job than me without rest,lunch breaks,etc......let A.I have it!!!!...even machines break down if you run’em hard enough...like i know these greedy folks in high places will!!!
What she us saying sounds valid. If we adopted marxism/ socialism would people be happier? Will inequality be eliminated? Is there an example of this in the past?
wow
This is a Wow!!!
This is the essence of what I think of as the demands of the black lives matter movement.
Lisbon my city
والترجمه ؟
What about slavery from antiquity onwards?
I’m not worried because i can can fix any machines made by man...or woman!!!!!!!
💛🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛
"nobody says if you're not gonna agree with me I'm leaving and never coming back" how do we get tucker carlson's people to see this...
I'm a conservative and watched this. I wish people in the U.S.A. would do what they do as often as they do and discuss and debate their differences.
You can't undo capitalism without undoing social inequality
Incarceration rates have fallen for black men and women for more than two decades. Has capitalism retrenched?
The captions are not 100% accurate
geog 1050 anyone?
Yes 🙄
Although she lives in Portugal, it seems to me that she makes no effort to understand the country and its society, and this is essential to understand places like Cova da Moura. BTW, the suburbs of Lisbon used to be full of slums, worse than Cova da Moura, and in the last 20 years, 90% of them have been torn down. A few remain, like the infamous "Jamaica".
Based on what?
ISH
Not true. The problem with spelling is in the word. If you wish to cast a spell you must understand the word! Without the right words there is no magic!
I am the proverbial nobody. It's a little heavy but every soul on the planet must find the power to ... I'm still here!
This is so good but also depressing. How do we convince America to make racial progress when it's so afraid of anything other than "capitalism"?
My only concern is my people's 400 years experience in the USA.
Ignore international socialists. #ADOS #REPARATIONS
The problem with that is it leaves capitalism untouched. Capitalism needs inequality to exist so it can function.
SleepyCCS I am African from Congo democratic Republic and I can tell you the most inhumane treatment of black Africans is still going on in Africa as I text you.The Europeans before leaving trained their replacement who are called Politicians installed them and left.She is very correct linking racism to Capitalism because I have a Wealthy uncle and I realised The thinking of rich people is very different it matters not if that rich is black.Some blacks with money are worse than whites.my uncle who is worth more than 100 million dollars refused to pay my school fees worth 100 dollars in secondary.am a product of a young single mother.So yes she is correct there is over simplification of the issues.i believe even Dr king finally realised that Racism is designed to server big business.look up Dr king's speech on CZcams.the other America.Race goes deeper that people assume and most reach people are very biased and terrified to loose status.Come see how rich Africans behave then you will understand human nature will justify anything.
and 'racial territory' can shift,
Very interesting video and the discussion certainly needs to be had. Although I would push back a bit on the take on Capitalism. Capitalism does not "require" inequality, it simply isn't the focus of Capitalism. Capitalism is a vehicle for the creation of capital, or wealth. It's the community's job to create and allocate equity as it sees fit. A greedy person is greedy under any economic system, his or her means of satisfying that greed simply change. As to inequality, nature is unequal, some lands are fertile, others are barren; some places have stable weather, others don't; some regions harbor rich resources, others do not. People would not be equal even if there were no such thing as racism. Even within the same race people are not equally skilled, not equally motivated, and not even equally interested in the same things. Capitalism, while not perfect, is the best way we've come up with so far to give people the opportunity to pursue their own self-interests, as well as those they wish to serve, to the degree that their skills, motivations, and interests allow take them. The 1st problem is that Governments have historically barred certain people from practicing Capitalism on illegitimate grounds (and if racism enshrines inequality somebody please explain to me how a racist AND Socialist government would be BETTER for Black people). The 2nd problem is that even where able, our people don't PRACTICE Capitalism correctly, or rather, we don't maximize what power we can leverage with it. We have access to 1 Trillion dollars or Capital each year- more than many countries. It's time we start doing it in a way that empowers us. That's OUR responsibility, not anybody else's.
But which came first, capitalism or racism? Obviously racism predates the political-economic system of capitalism, and therefore so does inequality. Yes, capitalism requires inequality, but aren't we best served by treating capitalism as the product of the paradigm of inequality itself?
There was Intra European slavery and there was Intra African slavery and Intra every continent slavery. Market Capitalism was first developed in Europe so consequently they surged ahead mainly in West Africa, but they weren't the only Slavers in Africa. East African coast was under the control of the Sultan of Oman and many African slaves were taken to the Middle East via Swahili and Arab traders.
Yes true ,but before it absolutely shed in Islam ,during slavery Islam told to give them right too as
Let them eat what you eat ,let them prey with you,etc.
I don’t think I understand how racism is linked to the origins of capitalism. Wasn’t capitalism born in a pretty racially homogenic europe?
The idea of race and racism were and are used to sustain capitalism. The pursuit of wealth in the form of the transatlantic slavery led to the creation of racial categories.
While know it's a 15m video there were a lot of... I guess problematic generalizations? Don't disagree with the content but there's more than a few things addressed that aren't nearly (and please pardon the metaphor) as black and white as was made out to be.
For example no other minorities were addressed, even though Chinese railroads were very much a thing, and idea of a certain minorities, specifically a lot of people of middle eastern heritage, being less valuable or paid less (In context of America and Canada anyway).
This all to say would like to see a bigger scope-look or else potentially attend a couple-hour lecture on the subject but have a series of problems with the video and it's presentation of ideas.
Any system will put 20% of people in privelege (either ideological or economic) and require 10% or more to be without and suffer some form of deprivation.
Sounds a bit Marxist. God, I love that guy!
It depends on who you call black peoples, do you consider the middle eastern people's black ...!
@UKBlackman ...so the justification for the Jewish slavers was from the Talmud, and the story of Ham ...
There will be racism even without capitalism
A little bit too reductionist of an idea of the formation of capitalism. I'm sure Gilmore knows a fuck ton more than I do, and I understand the idea of brevity, but it can be irresponsible some times.
where was she irresponsible?
@@benoplustee I didn't say she was.
@@MildredBonkers ok. Where was she "too reductionist"?
@@benoplustee dunno. Looks like I watched and commented on the video over a year ago ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean, Cali in the 80s and 90s was crazy.
I didn't have the luxury of growing up in Connecticut and being indoctrinated into white higher education institutions, so my lived experiences are probably a lot different than this nice lady's.
I agree with a lot of your points, but skeptical because you're just a product of neoliberal institutions.
STOP! STOP! STOP! This dumb, stupid, misplaced, overbearing, unnecessary music especially at the beginning. I have to keep rewinding and turning up my speakers and using captions. And worse, the professor gives such an important lesson. She speaks with a lisp too. What do u think your editing Lord of the Rings!
How is "capitalism" defined?
So where do the Africans who sold their own people into slavery stand in this capitalism structure. Where does the Barbary Slave Trade stand in this capitalism structure.
@@Keith_f Don't know that's why I asked the question.
This is why life long students shouldn't have anything to do with the real world. Stay inside the fantasy land behind the school walls.
How would the statement that "all capitalism is racial capitalism" make sense to someone in South Korea?
I don’t get it. Her thesis about the relationship with capitalism and race seems more conspiracy than truth.
So state your counter evidence then. Disprove her 'thesis'
I would invite anyone watching this to take a visit to South Korea and look around. You will see tons of capitalism going with little to no racial component whatsoever.
how about this?:
"In a 2010-2014 World Values Survey, 44.2% of South Koreans reported they would not want a foreigner as a neighbor.[3][4] Racist attitudes are more commonly expressed towards immigrants from other Asian countries and Africa, and less so towards European and white North American immigrants who can occasionally receive what has been described as "overly kind treatment".[1][5] Related discrimination has also been reported with regards to mixed-race children, Chinese Korean, and North Korean immigrants.[5]"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_South_Korea
or this: www.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/world/asia/02race.html
She spent her entire life overlooking the fact that when she mentioned Intra-European slavery started capitalism she never bothered to research 🧐 Intra-African slavery, Intra-Ottoman slavery, Intra-Asian slavery and, you guessed Intra-Indigenous slavery!
Once all these hierchys were established by country’s and lands world wide (oh and people absolutely love to establish Hierchy, in their family, amongst friends, in marriage, at work, home country etc.) these “discoverers” “explorers” went out and about,
some were well armed for the time, some were not, some cheated and deceived other “Tribes”, some conspired against other tribes.
When the dust settled, certain country’s ascended in power, such as England, Portugal (through Brazil, Angola etc.) France and Spain of course.
Fast forward 200-600 years now and supposedly all whites are all together (they aren’t) everyone is British heritage and is/was related to King George I (we aren’t).
British people don’t consider me their race, it’s divided up into countries, then provinces, then states, then neighbourhood tribes. Some are friendly, some are combatative.
I know plenty of educated people of colour, from Jamaica, Trinidad, Guyana and many are hard working entrepreneurs that thrive well past the “whites” that came from lesser educated family’s and aren’t the types to succeed, these coloured people (if that’s the term you prefer) aren’t equals in their own groups. Some are wealthy, some are on Government support
Colour is irrelevant. These “classes” or what she implied were “lesser classes” of people is the term we will use, every country has those same hierarchies right now!
China has them right now, Japan has them, in Africa there are black people that look at other black groups like they are “trash”
Where is the racism in that??
In 2018 countries currently with the most “slaves” right now still today are..
-India 8 million slaves currently
-China 3.8 million slaves
-Pakistan 3.1 million slaves
-Nigeria! 1.39 million slaves???
-North Korea, Indonesia, The Congo, Russia and the Philippines, probably other remote places as well.
Our past And our emotions about our past is no easy fix and is littered with atrocities on every corner of the planet.
This jargon of none sense is so out of touch with reality. The usage of big words doesn't mean your making any rational points.
@UKBlackman perfect example ^^ God bless you.
La palabra "eslavo" tiene su origen en "esclavo". Los primeros pueblos en ser esclavizados sistematicamente de los que se tiene noticia, antes de las poblaciones africanas, fueron las tribus iliteradas de Europa del Este. El esclavismo no tiene que ver con la raza/fenotipo sino exclusivamente con la producción/explotación. Pero venga , a llevarlo todo al terreno identitario y así estamos como estamos, sin una clase trabajadora unida y combativa.
Remember to thank capitalism for giving you the opportunity to live in a free country
The problem with people, is they won't unchain their victim mentality. Where there is a will, there is a way to achieve what you want in life.
If you don't think so, that's your problem.
I do my best to listen to all views if I can hope they may be intelligently factual and well-reasoned. It took little time to realize the utter nonsense of her agenda. Capitalism was born and developed primarily in Europe, which extended it, eventually, worldwide. But it first put other white europeans into mines and factories, and enforced white child labor. Hence, the development of unions and laws against child labor, in the countries of exploited whites, but is now being practiced by asian countries against their own citizens, greatly of their own ethnicity. It never ceases to amaze me, though it shouldn't, the language academics invent to assert and baffle and give pretension of weight to their thinking. I am sure I am not alone in that observation.
her view is racist, plain and simple. If she wants to argue capitalism vs Marxism then she needs to get in line with all sorts of famous intellectuals through out history and have a better argument. No she turns to racism, which I think now a days the rhetoric might pay well considering the political climate with China, Russia, or any well funded group. If you don't know history then know this, taking down capitalism is a highly sought after affair, there is a lot of money in it, and it is a cold war, that's heating up. Millions have already died to create a free country... let's hope that stays in the past.
@@mark8625 yup, Noam Chompsky's, Manufactured Consent, covers a lot of what you said. I like to think it's tribalism vs the individual, which is more or less Marxism. There is money for these people. I just this, my mind got blown to a whole new level on how bad the SJW thing is,
czcams.com/video/kVk9a5Jcd1k/video.html
The irony: an American living in Europe and passing judgments on Europeans. The Portuguese actually succeeded in finding a way to sail from Europe to Asia which must be considered a discovery. Before that all trade was landbased and took years. Those who claim capitalism to be racist should start by preaching to rich Africans. There is plenty of them.
more rich whites though, many more
That's good for the Portuguese learning to sail and figuring out how to get to Asia. It was a discovery....for the Portuguese. I'm from the East African coast and we have a history of sailing here that goes back way before the Portuguese sailed around the Cape of Good Hope and "discovered" us. Swahili sailors had been trading African goods from the interior, sailing them across the Indian Ocean to India, and as far as China, and bringing back goods from those distant lands. This is the thing that saddens me the most, that most people still believe that Africa's history is "we were savages living like animals and then Europeans came and taught us everything and gave us civilization". So most people don't think they have anything to learn from studying African history. If you have the means, come visit us and see the ruins of the Swahili towns along the Indian Ocean coast of East Africa where you can still see porcelain from China set in the columns and buildings that remain standing. Most of the major towns were destroyed after the European invasion. The one town that was left most intact is now a World Heritage Site and a magical place to visit: Lamu, Kenya.
@@marylugano4409 *sarcasm* nope you're wrong. Europeans did everything better and before everyone one else. They discovered fire, invented the wheel, they invented math, and language. All other peoples were just aimless, roaming lumps of flesh until the Europeans showed up. We all should be thankful. *end of sarcasm*
No, sailing has been used by Europeans prior to the foundations of Portugal. They just advanced or 'discovered' better ways to do so contributed by Moors/Berbers with Carthaginian and Phoenician ship building origins whom also benefited from and to sub-Saharan Africans and enriched their cultures and economies in regards to the trans-Saharan trade. An historical instance of African capitalism and mercantilism.
I specifically pointed out that the Portuguese did discover the maritime way around Africa to reach Indian Ocean/Asia. That was obviously enough to be accused of being an uncultured and contemptuous racist. Go figure.
Thank GOD for Capitalism. There are plenty of places in the world where it's not welcomed. I'm glad I don't live. Thankful for what I "got".
I smell a commie.
The thesis seems mixed and conflated; loosely associated.
I watched because the title seemed arguable, yet I didn't find it tight.
"Capitalism requires inequality and Racism enshrines it."
"Racial capitalism, which is to say Capitalism..."
Marx's critique but with a swap out of the Proletariat with Black race.
"Prisons concentrate surplus... there has to be a steady stream of criminals... that group has to become deeper or bigger over time."
"This relates to Slavery... through all of it's iterations over time."
--Seems as if the import of Municipal codes in other countries is being attributed to entailments from Euro-American capitalism??
-I'm not able to agree nor disagree with her tangents. There is a deduction she is implying, but her culprit is too general or too archaic.
- An argument could be made isomorphically to hers, where the culprit is the English Language itself. Where the culprit is her means (our means) of Meaning-coveyance. Yet, this is often overlooked, would be shied-away from. And it would put a burden upon one/groups to speak a non-european language.
Wrong premise. Capitalism has nothing to do with racism. Capitalism is a system of free markets that have proven to lift people out of poverty all over the world. The professor should try living in a socialist country. Send us a postcard from Venezuela.
Ruth Wilson Gilmore makes some good points , however she places ( or distorts ) her observations by placing them in the context of a Marxist world view to validate sadly marxist racist nonsense . In reality her Observations are much closer to a Judeo-Christian / Abrahamic Law view- a context that has both a more Humane context , as well as offering a richer transcendent understanding of the human experience that goes back 6000 years and now reflected in the beliefs of over half the worlds population that follow the Abrahamic religions and law code, such as the 10 Commandments as well as such documents as todays UDHR 1948- which clearly speek to individual Propert Rights (see at.17 UDHR) . Sadly seeing things through the anti-Semitic lens of a Marxist only empowers a narrow political elite as both the history and practice of Marxism/ Socialism have proven. Validating "marxism" as history has told us is sadly only validating oppression, racism and coercion.
Cultural Leftist discourses that justify coercion and suppression of dissent veiled in a self serving rhetoric of “emancipatory politics” that have defined “Marxism / socialism” for the last 200 years can be interrogated (and condemned) using standard HUMAN RIGHTS norms as defined and universally agreed to in the UDHR 1948. See - www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights
THE ONE THING Cultural Leftists the “Politically Correct”, the sanctimonious “Progressives”, the “Woke Dogmatists”, “Ego-Activists”, Evangelical Socialists and the old line Marxist do not want you to know is that Marxism, their underlining belief system, beyond being a failed, politically fraudulent narrative, is historically an updated variant on ancient anti-Semitic racism reflecting the pathologies of its founder Karl Marx. “Marxism” is a secular-religious dogma with a history of undermining the Jewish people, Judeo -Christian values and todays Human Rights norms. Marxism embeds both an explicit and subliminal anti-Semitic Racism veiled in the rhetorical mumbo-jumbo of social class envy and nonsense economic theory.
The Marxist narrow materialists definition of life is the premise for their claim to total dominance, a variation on the old rational every thug has used to dominate others from when the Pharaoh oppressed the Jewish people, to todays Xi-Jinping’s genocide of the Uighurs. The ‘king” and his narcissistic administrators must control everyone. Marxism, or its “sacred” belief premise in dialectical materialism is just an updated version of the “divine right of kings”, narcissism as political rhetoric.
Marxism, given the well-known pathologies of its founder Karl Marx is more a politicization of his malignant narcissism than coherent political theory. An observation reinforced by the pre-disposition of contemporary Marxists to political-role playing as the vulnerable victim or the grandiose (the save the world type) narcissistic “social activist”.
The appeal of Marxism to narcissists is found in its tenets which foster total dominance of its advocates, and the culturally and socially degrading context it places others in when measured against basic human rights ( UDHR 1948) or by Jewish and Judeo -Christian cultural norms. Sadly as narcissists, Marxists can not abide criticism, which Marxist can not counter in rational debate and so often rely on censorship, (“cancel culture”), personal attacks ( see art.12 UDHR), and rhetorical subterfuge.
Informed people know Karl Marx was a virulent racist who used the “N’ word,
( see czcams.com/video/_GL0t2SDSzk/video.html) and hated most races except selected European races, and in spite of being of Jewish origins himself, hated the Jewish people, and Jeudo-Christian values with a particular venom ( see N. Weyl “Karl Marx Racist”) . Marx’s anti-Semitic racism delineated his first major essay “On the Jewish Question”, ( also known as “A World without Jews” ), a text dedicated to assimilationist genocide of the Jewish people, and described by Bernard Lewis Professor Emeritus of Princeton University has as "one of the classics of anti-Semitic propaganda”. Karl Marx’s racist anti-Semitism would define his life and fraudulent “research”, both explicitly as well as subliminally in his rhetoric, writings and policies.
Karl Marx’s anti-Semitic RACIST discourse is veiled in his fraudulent pseudo-rational, economic mumbo -jumbo. A rhetorically closed self-justifying system, subjective definitions, an absence of natural economic or independent price signals, lack of internal consistency, the nuttiness of a “labour theory of value”, the pagan religion (dogma) of “historical / dialectical materialism”, sectarian intolerance, racism, anti-Semitism a series of rather glaring epistemological problems and so on. It was more an expression of a narcissistic pathology than rational economic analysis, as noted by Robert Solow (Nobel Prize Economics 1987) “most serious English-speaking economists regard Marxist economics as an irrelevant dead end.” Sadly , for deluded Cultural Leftists there is no such thing as “Capitalism”, there is just HUMAN FREEDOM that expresses itself as individual free choice in a diversity of free markets, be it economic, cultural, or social choices free people make. A free market is where crappy products and toxic values that rely on coercion to be inflicted in the name of equality, are quickly exposed.
The great Oxford scholar Leszek Kołakowski reflections on Marxism was that “It is just unadulterated hokum, nauseating in its sentimentality, dangerous in its appeal to the credulous.” some think he was being kind, sadly the most harmed are often young trusting, naïve even gullible students.
Today the toxic influence of Marxism within the academy has underscored a growing concern regarding the liabilities of the fraudulent, biased and harmful effects of an educational culture dominated by the kind of the political/cultural imbalance found in many academic communities. An imbalanced Culturally Leftist space unsafe for too many students as it stigmatizes Judeo-Christian and Abrahamic peoples and values as it incites Human Rights abuses, as defined by such normative standards as the UDHR 1948. www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights
Sadly however Marxism is today the most prevalent form of structural/cultural anti-Semitic Racism, designed to undermine the core identities of Jewish and Judeo-Christian people and the Basic Human Rights (UDHR 1948) of everyone else. It is an old narrative of narcissistic “power seeking” be it fostered by the ancient Pharaohs of Egypt as the “god” of the temporal world or the contemporary jargon of “historical / dialectical materialism” and “scientific socialism” that effects the same outcome, the dominance of a narrow self serving political elite. In such “belief systems” everyone is ideologically framed by governing narcissists who hate any independence from their “theoretical” claim to ‘authority”. Today such claims to authority are often embedded in the subtler political or cultural semiotics (political gas lighting) of the Cultural Leftists.
The fact is that due to its premise in the pagan religion, ”theory”, theology or dogma of historical / dialectical materialism, Marxist is RACISM when understood through a Jewish, Judeo-Christian, Abrahamic lens ( over 55% of the worlds population adheres to an Abrahamic faith and Identity) or a human rights lens (UDHR 1948), a point ignored or denied by the Cultural Leftists.
……..Identifying both the intrinsic RACISM and Human Rights Abuse these kinds of Cultural Leftists and Ego-activists promote can start with understanding the distorting cultural semiotics and subliminal anti-Semitic Racism promoted by Karl Marx…a new variant on the racist cultural rhetoric that the Pharaoh used against the independence of the Jewish people 5000 years ago - The oldest racism in history. czcams.com/video/rZh01xRO_Qg/video.html
For those who like to read ....A very basic Reading List The Socialism of Fools?: Leftist Origins of Modern Anti-Semitism; by William I Brustein and Louisa Roberts ( Cambridge University press) Karl Marx, Racist, By Weyl Nathaniel; Were Marx and Engels White racists?, By Carlos Moore; Main currents of Marxism, by Leszek Kołakowski ; The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich von Hayek ; A World Without Jews, by (the racist) Karl Marx;,The Open Society and its Enemies, by Karl popper; Marx's Religion of Revolution: Regeneration Through Chaos by Gary North PhD.;Communist Eschatology by Francis Nigel Lee PhD.
racial or not, capitalism is better than socialism, look at Cuba, Venezuela and old Russia, socialism and Marxism has failed everywhere. As a black person, I panic to think we would transition to a failed system like socialism, these peole are out of their minds. We've seen immigrants rise to amazing heights in America, sure they don't have the past racism and didn't suffer like our people but they have removed the excuses we make for our current condition. How about injecting honesty and less excuses? Stop it! you are not helping our people. She speaks of prisons, well one has to commit crimes to go to prison. It couldn't be more simple, simple, don't commit crimes instead take your ass to work. Stop making excuses for people who make bad choices.
Try not committing crime, finishing high school, not having kids till you have a diploma and you’re married. Prison industrial complex will empty. Capitalism does not require inequality any more than it requires excellence, and responsibility.
@Alexandra McLean You are so right , they are so caught up in there automatize and fractureized form of existence that people like these won't see the aforementioned true struggle and challenges . The socially and economically marginalized groups of people have an intuitive and spiritual awareness of what is generating their problems , they only lack the rhetorical abilities or the political savvy to affect the necessary changes their condition require for them to live a psychologically progressive and culturally healthy lifestyle . This tyrannical economic and political system only see them as a molecule of energy for their outrageously rapacious and avaricious machine . This is what they feel and they know instinctively . But presently something is under foot it's Bob Marley said there's a natural Mystic flowing do the air . The game has been peaked now the means have to be recognized and properly applied to overcome this form of Oppression .
Did you watch the video at all? I highly doubt that you did...Unless you're being just willfully ignorant.
The Mantra of Personal Responsibility as a cure to structural and societal ills will always be the call of the intellectually and morally bankrupt.
@Alexandra McLean Do you know her?
@@LameBushido Its the battle cry of the privileged. "Why can't you all be more like us." "We did it the right way and the system worked for me"
A privileged person that lived in the Ivory Tower spending years bloviating to kids that have remember what she says or get a bad mark.