Here's the problem with the Fenyr Supersport design
Vložit
- čas přidán 10. 04. 2020
- The problem with the Fenyr Supersport. Let's explore its design.
#fenyr #supersport
Add me on Instagram: TheSketchMonkey
★TheSketchMonkey Merch: sketchmonkey.store
★My Sketching Classes: analogdesignerpropack.com
★Get exclusive content on my Patreon: / thesketchmonkey
★The books, art supplies and equipment I use: www.amazon.com/shop/thesketch...
Thanks for watching! Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE!
Links above may be affiliate links. With no extra cost to you, I may earn a commission should you chose to purchase a product through my links. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Car designer: This gives me a headache
Car guys: I mean it looks pretty good
Non car guy: LOOK A BAT MOBLE!
I'm a car guy and I hate the Fenyr
Every black sports car is a "Batmobile" to non car guys and it's so annoying
@@UpperRobin29 I saw a black jeep the other day and I could only say it was Batman's
@@carlosandleon you might not think its annoying but it is, look at it from our view, everybody calling ANY type of car a bat mobile because its all blacked out
I get what he's saying as well but I feel like the whole point of WM design language is supposed to be ridiculous. 🤷
To me, I really love the design anyways, it looks like a dragon wearing armor
I always though it looked like a predatory cat
I would feel hurt if I was the lead designer and I heard it looks like a cat, when they're based of a wolf.
Looks like an Autobot
I loved how it looked regardless. It's different, and sometimes on your channel you tend to say car designs have been lookin very similar. This one didn't and that's what I appreciated about it. Only problem I had with it are the headlights, they were way too high up on the car, if they were put Lower the car would have looked slightly more in proportion even without most of the other changes you made to it. Either way I like both yours and the original design but i just think that it probably was their identity to have mean looking bat mobile styled car
I happen to agree that the Fenryr Supersport could make an excellent Batmobile, but I think the purpose of the designers was to make the whole front of the car a wolf-themed design, to tie in with the Fenryr name. Come to think of it, the whole first generation of W Motors lineup is basically wolf themed
I’m and big fan and I know you’re obviously far more skilled in this and have more training than me, but do you not feel there’s room to move away from the traditional design conventions you talk about. Whether thats typical line flow or proportions. Yeah, the original car might not look traditionally natural or beautiful, but I think that makes it look brutal and inorganic. It’s in the same way some art will purposely break conventions of colour theory or proportion to give a more striking effect.
Van Gogh is one of the most accredited artists in history now, but people originally saw his work with harsh colours and incorrect perspective and shunned it. Do you not think car design will get tired if we neuter every design to follow these traditional design values, especially now with electric car changing the required layout of a car.
Interesting perspective! I think companies/people trying new design ideas/techniques is always good, and I'm sure Marouane agrees. Rules are "made to be broken"! However I think it's important to find a balance between organic and 'inorganic' design, because what would the most inorganic design be? It wouldn't be very cohesive, because cohesion is organic. However, cohesion is very important in design, and I think the problem with these cars from W Motors is not the styling (design language), but the actual design itself not being cohesive enough. Marouane finds it a bit random and "smashed together".
About Van Gogh, I would say that he used a lot of contrasting colours, but ones that are monochromatic, complementary, or analogous, so they still follow colour theory (at least my modern-day understanding of colour theory). Design, like colour harmony, is subjective, so what looks good to you may not to others. However, design principles and colour theory are the guidelines we use to make sure we are more likely to create a 'good' design that many people will find aesthetically pleasing.
I think it's mostly design trends that make modern car design already very tired, as many new cars look very similar today. I'm thinking of things like big front grilles, narrow headlights, over-styled angular body lines, LED DRLs and light bars, etc. I'm sure there will be plenty of radical but also pleasing car designs in the near future with the increase of EVs.
I agree with you, I like these very out there designs. A lot of times I feel like thesketchmonkey just makes the designs more conventional and boring. I've always hated the fact that concept car designs just get so boring once the car comes out. Luckily for me that has changed a lot in the last years!
While I agree with you, this redesign didn't make the car look any more "traditional" as you imply since the key graphical elements that make it special are still there, it only made it more proprtionally sound and cohesive.
Edit: Martin R put it perfectly
Thank you @@xzraiderzx308 :) You make a good point too.
@@xzraiderzx308 This car is so different that it won't look traditional. However with his take on the F8 Tributo, he made it look like a 488 with different headlights again
19:01 the original looks more photoshopped especially with the doors
It looks like a BRZ got a weird body kit.
Could you maybe do an Lfa successor?
LC-F is coming out next year or so
LC500 is the successor.. Well kinda.
Ye but kinda wanna see his take on it
@@user-zc2hz3yj2k In no way. The LC is a luxurious GT, not a supercar.
Sad rcf noises
I like it and really appreciate the courage W motors and Lamborghini have to make innovative designs with uneven lines and aggressive angels.
If it was black it would have all the appeal of Darth Vader’s hat!
i am quite sur there is a """"concept"""" car that do have 5000Hp and do take darth vader helmet as a inspiration for the design lol
and i found it newatlas.com/alieno-arcanum-5000-horsepower-electric-hypercar/55373/
"A first year transportation design student trying to figure out Alias"
Shots fired😂
When does he speak it...?
I'm liking these longer videos! Could you redesign/modernize the VW Karmann Ghia?
those minor details make a great change，the redesign is way better than the original，finally know why this car looks so strange after first saw it five years ago，thank u bro
Most of the time with these re-designs there are only a few fundamental flaws that when addressed, it changes the entire vibe of the car.
but it was released in 2017???
‘Fast 7 featured the most expensive car’
Fast 9: ‘hold my Apollo IE’
I think that this is the only good looking “overstyled” car
Lean Mean Green Bean Machine In my opinion the crazy styling is what sets it apart from other cars.
U don't like VENENO?
*a n g u l a r*
it's not overstyled it's just good looking, veneno etc don't look bsd in any way
b0fa scootz ngl the veneno still looks like shit in my opinion
Designers: "So, how many sharp angles do you want?"
Client: "yes".
Who remembers when it was in Asphalt 8
Asphalt 9 :D
Me
Now you cant get it in A9 because its replaced by the Zenvo mp packs
@@vipbeef2174 I have the fenyr so I wanted the zenvo anyway
Hi 99_Fiat_Multipla! Good to see you here
the first thing I said when I saw the car was literally "looks like a kit car"
look at the Toyota ft 86 concept and look at it again lol
It’s literally kit car. As I know Hypersport was based of Porsche Cayman Underbody, engine was also from Cayman (but upgraded). So I think Fenyr is also based of Cayman of some sort
well in sertain way it is
The Lykan was literally a RUF CTR3 underneath.
I would enjoy seeing a redesign of the Veneno, since it's an absolute extreme of car design, espacially when it came out. How would you make it more traditional?
see, i think the thing that makes the Veneno special is the fact it's so out rageous, it's really insane styling is what makes it stand out from other lambos, making it look more "traditional" would diminish its appeal, i feel like
Pagani Huayra BC Shits on Veneno in both performance and styling 🤣
Oh cmon Veneno is kid's dream car yo
5:40 damn imagine this part like a game it would be so sick
You are really talented guy and your sketches does make sense alot...
Im glad that you are showing your sketches longer so the video is easy to pause to observe the details and changes u made.. nice job man 👏
I really like your redesign, very clean and made more sense to my eyes. It should be looks like your design in the first place.
My first comment to your channel.
I'm a lover of SOME weird car designs and I think it looks good the way it is and I still think you did a perfect job with the lines and still kept the crazy design. I'm learning to look at cars the way you do, I love it.
Amazing work !! but what do you think an aventador replacement will look like? thanks!
Excellent analysis as usual. What are your thoughts on the Kia k5/ optima
Fantastic work.! ...which software are you using?
The side profile reminds me of a powerful animal. And as this is named Fenyr, I get what the designers were going for.
Hi, I usually like your videos, and I also have a degree in transport design, but I didnt expect this from you. I have a respect for every single car manufacturer and I have to say that you have to have respect for them too. Its not classic design, its everything but ordinary. And I like that, I like that its different in todays world of milions of spots car companies. I am not huge fan of the design, but I respect it, and you should too. :) Its like dubstep of car design, its very different, but its very hard to make it nice.
If you ask a classically trained typographer to evaluate Graffiti, they’ll pretty much echo your views when it comes to shape, lines, curves and volume. However as a typographer I can appreciate good graffiti as it challenges the norm which allows us to move forward with our own understanding.
I like the fact the arch ends and there’s no continuation of the shape after the gap. Also the miss alignment of the bumper detail is done on purpose. I feel you’re not used to seeing details like this and struggle to make sense of it.
I didn’t dislike your edits. As usual your skills are tremendous.
I agree, though I think original is a lot cooler,. The exaggerated line flow and indeed the intentional line breaks make much more of an impact on me, and keeps the design from looking generic. While skilled, I think Sketch makes it look too much like a Lamborghini or something traditional.
NathSB design language changes. It’s interesting, as a graphic designers I can see rational behind this design which a car designer such as SketchMonkey seems to miss.
I think ultimately these sort of busy design details get lost and lose their effectiveness after the first impact, an artist friend once said good art is what you remembers after you stopped looking at it. Fuzziness becomes a blur of random shapes that can be one way or another without any justification, you can draw the lines on the engine cover 100 different ways, all different but ultimately all lacking in reasoning and purpose. I think cars as a medium should be long lasting and less throwaway than most other form of design. (not dissing graphic design cos I came from that background as well), but when I design a car I always think about what can people 30 or 40 years down the line learn from it, does it reflect the state of our society now and does it present itself as something worth keeping even when objectively better performing cars will eclipse it as a transportation device?
hey, just wanted to ask that how you learned to redesign? and can you give some tips for a beginner
A polite way to describe the Fenyr's design language: eclectic, with fangs.
I honestly kinda sorta like it - the arched fenders, the angular front graphics, and the use of negative space in the rear bumper (or lack thereof) - but your redesign made a world of difference! It looks much more "luxurious" whilst still being just as "discrete" aka distinct/unique.
I know the Lykan or Fenyr are not traditionally good looking, but I freaking love how they look. The fact that the lines go nowhere and the odd shapes makes me really like it.
Can u pls send me the name of app which you use
You did good with this one! When you see the final product, the original does look grotesque in comparison. Now it looks a little more elegant and respectable
Which laptop you'll prefer for industrial design student?
I would like to ask. Did they go through prototype design? The sketch, clay modelling and everything before going to production.
You do what you do brother! Thanks!
Hey man nice work!!
It would be awesome to see a redisgned 33 stradale! I think you would have quite a challenge
Sometimes in design Less is more...period...
Hi! Would you mind doing a video/redesign of the DS E-Tense? (A sort of similar looking car.)
Your seat looks amazing, can I have a link for it?
I believe that Lycan Hypersport was based on porsche and it might even have same or a very similar engine
And i wouldn't be surprised if they did the same thing whit this one
Looks so much better after your redesign, i would lower that rear intake because its to big and make the A pillar all black cuz to me it makes the car look like it’s melting and parts are overlapping from the heat. If you do all this then maybe my head won’t hurt when i look at this car.
Which app you r using to sketch
Kindly do VAZIRANI AUTOMOTIVE SHUL hypercar
That would be fun! That car is beautiful though...
Would be cool to hear your opinion about the Citroen GT.
*Gran Turismo flashbacks*
Do a video about the AMG One and/or the Aston Martin Valkyrie please! Would be much appreciated!
can you redesign the current Acura ILX as a 2 door coupe?
Also could you redesign the tvr Tuscan or sagaris?
I love the car. The over styling is part of what it is and it works well. It's not a car you are going to forget about anytime soon plus the design doesn't take away the fact that it is an ultimate performer. If I was driving a Ferrari or Lamborghini and that thing was in my rear view mirror, I would pull aside because of the super aggressive look
--> Redesign this - too easy! Try to redesign the Ali Bin Ali Elibriea. Another Middle East Supercar, with the looks like an Aztec
What the actual fuck is that car
looks like 6 year old was playing the Alias
Will you make a good render of a drawing I did? I think it has potential
WoW !! Amazing !! I really this re-design
Something to say that the engine bay cover on The Lykan hypersport is like the number 7 in Arabic "٧" and the headlights are like the number 7 in english because they'd make only 7 units but it turned out to be a trademark to the company like in the Fenyr even though they're making 110 units and they created this problem.
I respect that u kept the designers of the car visions alive...it looks way better the way u did it. However, it could still use work. I’m not hating on ur talent, it’s amazing and I can’t come close, but idk. Maybe it’s just the design of the original car?
what do you think about lotus evija
I agree on many of your takes on design, but on this one I feel that the original design does very well when looking from a emotional design. The front, the fenders and the rear all hit hard with anger, we dont see that much in cardesigns anymore. The only part that doesn't hit hard is the midsection, wich should be more over the top to match. I like your take, but feel like it weakens the main selling point of this car, while keeping the overly soft midsection.
Nice work 👍👍👍
The car is pretty cool, but the flow not so much, but the slight adjustments you did make made all the difference, looks alot better, not bad, hats off to you.
What's your opinion on the 2020 Tesla roadster design?
I love that he does proper research for his videos.
I think this car has a beauty of its own. Like the designers worked on a specific theme on this car. For example not having a single piece of metal that is not worked on. Not a single plane on the vehicle that is not deformed in some way.
Sharp lines and angles everywhere. Curvitures everywhere. Look at the car and close your eyes. You cant remember more than 3 lines at the moment.
You have to look more and more to discover the car each time. It is themed chaos.
This is its beauty
Yeah I always thought this was a weird looker haha.
Also I think it would be really cool to see a slant nose design of the new Porsche 992!
I always seem to prefer your design
Thanks!
you are right, is got a porsche under it, a boxter or caiman to be presice
Can you talk about the jaguar cx75?
Yet still one of the most beautiful
Amazing explanation on this cars flaws. I never felt like lykan is trying to find its design identity though because if you notice the rear engine cover converting to the spoiler it has a flow to it and the headlight s have that typical lykan design and the arrow/ triangular type of side intakes above the rear fender also is a clear identification for the lykans. But after seeing the video I do now see how odd the car actually is and the hotwheels toy car resemblance.😆 I also feel that more designers are taking aid of computer generated designs and some example are of the puffer fish inspired concept car or that biome car. I think in the end what attracts a person to a car is natural organic nature based design language and maximum simplicity which is what nature provides in some ways.
Your redesign is far better than the original.
It looks like a Decepticon beginning to transform
I would love to give your opinion on Laferrari
Your redesign reminds me of the Lexus LFA
I am thinking how the replacement of the Fenyr SuperSport will look like...
I love it the way it is... with all the armoured aggressive edges.. it's not any "amateurs" design
I respectfully disagree that the original car looks bad. I think the over-the-top styling and excess of lines is intentional, and the design really pops to me.
That being said, your design looks pretty awesome! I really liked how you made the entire thing look so much more cohesive.
I like the original but your design also looks good.
I normally don't like car that have too much going on in the design but I do really like the Fenyr ngl
redesign looks soo great!!, my request is to make a redesign video of "Karma SC2"!!! pls
It would be soooo cool if you made a video “Modernizing” the Tesla Model S. (Example light bars)
Wasn’t this car built off a heavily modified corvette chassis? I could be wrong.
But it looks like they look a LOT of styling cues from the Bertone Mantide(built off of a C6 Corvette ZR1) But from a company with deeper pockets.
(Bertone barely made it off the ground, but this car is proof that the Mantide was ahead of its time)
There is something called the Devel 16 which is a hypercar from UAE. You should check that out. its crazy.
I really like this redesign. Looks a lot more elegant than the original.
It looks stunning in real life it looks good as it is. It needs no alteration at all.
You should redesign the GFG Sibylla, or any GFG style car!
Looks like a cross between an aventador and their existing Lykan
I like the Fenyr Supersport.
ooof I made it 420 lol. i get where you are coming from, and an avid art freak like me also wants to just fix it, but a lot of the linings were made for maximum downforce, or aerodynamics, and that is actually really important for a street speed freak
So, I think the redesign does look better, but there are a few things that I don't like. The area around the side grilles at the front bumper looks wayy too empety for such a complex design, and the thicc fender and c-pillar were characteristic design features of the car, that support the whole design language(of sharp aggressiveness with few kinda organic flowing lines to break it up a little) in a very effective way. For the triangular "thing" below the side intakes at the front, I would've gone for something inbetween the real car and your redesign, and the fenders should've stayed in their original size in my opinion.
I think this car would look nice with similar styling to the Ford gt with a teardrop shaped cockpit and have the fenders be sort of buttressed off to the sides
I’m from Dubai 😊
Please redesign the rear end of a gen 1 Honda Insight.
If the *Super*sport is meant to replace the *Hyper*sport, there's something wrong with W Motors, then...
Its the least the problems
What's happening to Dubai automotive business is the least of your concern/business.
it looks about as real as the last one did. for the Lyken Police interceptor(What else would it be?) The light package on the roof needs to be more aerodynamic. And this car looks like the outcome from a threeway between a Lambo, A McLaren and the Citron (Sih-tr-on) that was originally in a Playstation game.
I think what you wanted to say was that it feels like a concept car, its a rough draft of the final project but this is what we got instead of a clean up
I think it's a fairly cool looking car, if a bit over the top and unconventional. The part that bothers me is that the giant front side intakes, or whatever is the proper name, underneath the headlights, they make the car look very narrow from the front.
I’m honestly curious what was going on here. I’ve never seen Coventry student work (regardless of year) this bad. Was there a problem with modeling? Micromanagement? Time? So weird.
The Lykan Zedro looks gorgeous tho
Yep - you are definitely in the zone here - Nice
If you have any design for sale plz let me know
as someone who has seen one of these in person I can say it's so far from what you expect from a million dollars car that honestly I can't see this company as a legitimate business
Any specifics as to why its not worth a milion dollars ? Just curious
@@manifest8373 it's literally built of a RUF ct3
Its more of a body kit on a ruf chassis. Like those ferrari mr2
But it has diamonds and rubies in the lights! Lmao
Well, if that's a legitimate doubt...I'd say, how many hypercars around you see have holographic center console display tech?! Yeah, This car. Maybe you've been near one, doesn't really mean much Shit. I'd be more curious how good is your eyesight! LoL
I think it’ll be easier for you to find lines that flow than point out the lines that doesn’t flow
The car does not look that bad you just need to see it in real life I saw it in London last summer and it looked great as it looks totally different from anything else