Thanks so much for this comparison review, that also includes the nibs being used on different papers. Exactly what I wanted! I have a TWSBI Eco in a 1.1 stub and want to pick up another, but I was going back and forth between F and M or just get another 1.1 stub. I was leaning more toward the M to have a different sized nib to try, but to be completely honest I really love the 1.1 stub and the slight line variation possible with it. The 1.1 makes my handwriting more interesting! I'm still torn because I do feel silly getting another Eco with the exact same nib size.
Everything about the way you've set things up in the video, your handwriting.. pen collection... it's all so aesthetically pleasing. You clearly have a talent for it. Also, thanks, this helped me settle on the fine nib size hehe
This is such a great comparison! The details you put into this video is huge, and I've yet to found another one that gives this much information and writing sample with the same type of ink and several types of paper. I enjoyed the fine and medium nibs from Pilot pens, I think the fine nib from TWSBI Eco is right for me! Thank you!
One of the best videos that helped me- newbie and I use a weeks planner - thank you for the nib comparison and writing on the paper - from this I was able to confirm I need fine and not medium nib! You rock!!
Thank you so much for this video. I recently stepped into the world of fountain pens, and I'm enjoying it so far. I have an EF Lamy Safari, and now I'm considering getting an TSWBI ECO fountain pen in EF. Thank you again for the video.😊
If you just stepped in you may not know that all the beautiful inks, and all the fascinating properties these inks can have, such as shading, sheen, and glitter, come through best with larger nib sizes. An EF nib doesn't put down a line that's wide enough, or wet enough, to display such properties very well. I have very small handwriting, but I learned to use fine, then medium, broad, and stub nibs because of their ability to display ink properties far better than EF nibs. You have to decide for yourself how important fountain pen ink properties are, but the fountain pen world is about exploration and experimentation. Of course you can buy and use EF nibs, but this shouldn't stop you from trying other pens and other nibs. It's about having fun, learning new things, and going all the way down the rabbit hole.
Thank you for doing this video. I was having trouble picking which nib I wanted on the Twsbi I want to purchase. I was going back and forth on the extra fine and the fine. Now I think I want the extra fine. I write small. Thank you so much.
Jay Signed in Pink I was struggling with the same thing (and part of me wanted the stub) but I also tend to write anywhere from “relatively small” to “microscopic small” so I’m going with the EF too thanks to this video. Just hoping it’s not too scratchy compared to the F (I know it won’t be as smooth as the thicker ones) considering how close they look for line size.
Well, I plan on buying my first fountain pen being the Twsbi Eco with the fine nib. I’m very nervous that I won’t like the nib because it might be too small and if it is too small I’ll just have to live with it 😔 but it should be fine. As long as it’s not smaller writing than 0.3mm it should be fine.
I use the F nib for most of my writing in planners and for journaling. I think the size is neat and clean. I use a M nib for things that I am writing quickly like notes on the side of an article or book. I find both nib sizes to be smooth and I give the F nib to all my friends I'm trying to introduce to fountain pens.
Thank you very much for this great comprehensive demo of TWSBi nib sizes on different papers. I have a TSBI blunt and it's fun, but I have very small hands and I'm thinking of getting a TWSBI with fine nib so that my loops are open. Once again, thank you for a very nice demonstration.
she doesn't know how to use a fountain pen...she write XX y she doesnt know why.... actually thats for line variation , but she can't do it ...even with the stub nib (facepalm)
@@speedyspin Very informative video. I especially like the xx's you drew. People usually rush fountain-pens and throw some irrelevant x's, like it's a Pollock art contest. Love how you take your time and demonstrate a consistent smooth balanced line.
I just ordered the Fine nib TWSBI to add to my collection. So far, I have the medium and broad. I wanted to get the EF but had some reservations as to whether I can use it with my noodler’s bullet-proof inks. The 54th Mass is a beautiful ink but clogs up even a broad nib especially if the pen is left uncapped even for a minute. The black X-feather fares much better and looks great with fine nibs. I’m currently figuring out which brand to buy in red and purple, preferably one that’s free-flowing and friendly with highlighters but not bullet proof. Any ideas?
@@carlamariestudios I have both. Broad is for things like signing, art etc but not for regular writing on lined paper. Medium can be used for regular use. I have the fine as well and that’s probably the best for regular writing and can be used as EDC. Medium is smoother than the fine.
I've never had 54th clog any pen, including my TWSBIs. Of course, the pen doesn't clog if you leave the cap off, it just dries out, which is not the same thing as clogging. But I don't have a problem with it drying out very fast, either, and I use medium nibs every day. That said, no pen and no ink should be left uncapped, which is one more reason why posting a pen is a bad idea. There are hundreds of good inks out there that aren't bulletproof, but bulletproof inks are not your problem. They just aren't. Tens of thousands of people use bulletproof inks routinely, and experience zero problems. If anything, bulletproof inks stop such problems. Noodler's makes red and purple ink that is as good, as free-flowing, and as highlighter friends, as any ink on the market. But if you want beautiful, but cheap, ink that will meet your needs, go with Waterman. If you want a more expensive ink that does what you want, go with Iroshizuku. But you might also consider buying other nibs. EF nibs simply are not very good fountain pen nibs. Most who use such nibs do so because they used ballpoints or gel pens with fine points, and refused to change when they started using fountain pens. Bad idea. Fountain pen ink needs wider lines, if you want to show off its properties, and if you don't want to do this, there really isn't much reason to use fountain pens.
Great comparison. I couldn’t decide between the extra-fine/fine and the stub. I like the line variations, but I think I would just have to write too big and not be able to use it much at work. Doesn’t look like there’s much difference between the ef and f, perhaps feel, but I think I’m going to take a shot at the ef.
Hi, great review. Is the EF writing experience as smooth as the F? Deciding between the two. I find the Kaweco sport EF scratchy and super thin compared to the Kaweco F so prefer the Kaweco F. I don’t have a store close to me where I can try them out. Thank you!
Superb video Ive brought eco 1.1mm stub nib after watching your video.after my first attempt …i found that nib is very wet its very hard to write on a 90gsm or normal paper(ink used lamy beryl).im getting feathering effect with little bit of ghosting.if you know any hack please tell , how to make nib dry.thanks in advance😊
What’s a decent priced ( cheap) notebook that works well with fountain pens ? If you could give me like 3 to 5 different ones I’d appreciate it. Also is it possible to just buy one TWSBI eco pen with let’s just say an EF NIB, then buy the F, M and B Nibs separately ?
Mike Rose I have the same questions. I just purchased my first fountain pen and as I was watching this I thought it might be less expensive to just buy the nibs. All these experienced people throw around the paper names and I get confused. My pen is a TWSBI ECO fine nib and I love it.
Thanks for the nice and informative video! I am also left-handed and currently considering to buy a TWSBI pen, but it is really difficult to make a decision on the nib size. I have heard that TWSBI and Kaweco have nibs from the same manufacturer ("Jowo" or smth. like that). I am using Kaweco Perkeo in F and M, and really enjoy the smoothness of M (F is a bit scratchy to my taste). If you have experience with different brands, what nib size would you suggest to buy on TWSBI? Our local seller advised me to go for F, but I can well assume that he wants me to visit his shop twice, i.e. to return for am M later :) I would really appreciate your opinion!
I do think the M nib is smoother. It's the pen I use for patient notes in the hospital and field notes if I'm doing experiments. Anytime I want to write fast I use the M nib. I journal and do all my writing in planners with a F nib because it's neater and I don't need to go as fast. I find the F plenty smooth as well just not as smooth as the M. Hope that helps.
To me it feels a little stiff but when I use a very light hand, it is easier to write with. I do think you get a good amount of line variation BUT it is do to the change in writing direction (horizontal/vertical) rather than any give in the nib.
When I need to take fast meeting notes or quick notes to myself on a writing pad at work, I prefer the medium nib. It is super smooth. I prefer the F and EF nib for my Buller journaling or other places where I want a neater more polished looked.
@@TheProductivityPsychologist thanks can't wait until I can buy one :) we only get lamy pretty much here, but when I escape my country (Iran) I can't wait to try one! Who knows maybe I'll buy a fine and a broad. I'm also debating 3d printing a pen lol
It's strange how the fine looks really dry and weird. like it has flow issues, I"m buying the pink fine anyways D: wish me luck. I wanted a medium transparent purple but the store is out of them.
@@diane4091 i didn't get a fine, i got a medium and broad, both arrived with issues and the broad cracked from taking the nib out for fixing. maybe i got unlucky. twsbi did agree to send me replacements but to my country that's 15$~ shipping :( i'd recommend a kakuno or something. or a prera
Thanks so much for this comparison review, that also includes the nibs being used on different papers. Exactly what I wanted! I have a TWSBI Eco in a 1.1 stub and want to pick up another, but I was going back and forth between F and M or just get another 1.1 stub. I was leaning more toward the M to have a different sized nib to try, but to be completely honest I really love the 1.1 stub and the slight line variation possible with it. The 1.1 makes my handwriting more interesting! I'm still torn because I do feel silly getting another Eco with the exact same nib size.
I totally love that stub nib as well. I have 3 Ecos with the 1.1 stub. Love them all!
Love the comprehensive analysis... also sweet and smooth presentation! Great voice.
Thank you so much! You made my evening 💙
What's the difference between the Fine and Extra Fine in terms of scratching/smoothness/gliding on paper?
Thank you for making this video! It is exactly what I was looking for when comparing the F to the EF nibs on the TWSBI Eco!
You are very welcome. I'm glad you found it useful.
Everything about the way you've set things up in the video, your handwriting.. pen collection... it's all so aesthetically pleasing. You clearly have a talent for it. Also, thanks, this helped me settle on the fine nib size hehe
This is the best and most thorough comparison I have found on the nib sizes and you even included various papers. Thank You!
Thank you that makes my day!
Very nicely rendered 👍 especially the nib size comparison 👏🏻
Thank you! Glad it was useful! 💙
A very nice review, nice to see one where conditions are the same, same pen model, same ink, various papers. A good job on the review.
Wow, very nice comparison on many fronts, TY, as I’ve been eyeing a couple of those papers and now I know!
You are very welcome 💖
What were your paper chouces?
thank you for this comparison! definitely informed my decision. love your handwriting too!
Thanks!
This is such a great comparison! The details you put into this video is huge, and I've yet to found another one that gives this much information and writing sample with the same type of ink and several types of paper. I enjoyed the fine and medium nibs from Pilot pens, I think the fine nib from TWSBI Eco is right for me! Thank you!
The Fine nib turns out to be my favorite nib size for the eco ✒️
One of the best videos that helped me- newbie and I use a weeks planner - thank you for the nib comparison and writing on the paper - from this I was able to confirm I need fine and not medium nib! You rock!!
So Ahappy this was helpful for you. I loved doing it!
I really enjoyed a vicarious feel of those cool twisi pens. Very nice review...thank you.
Thank you so much for this video. I recently stepped into the world of fountain pens, and I'm enjoying it so far. I have an EF Lamy Safari, and now I'm considering getting an TSWBI ECO fountain pen in EF. Thank you again for the video.😊
If you just stepped in you may not know that all the beautiful inks, and all the fascinating properties these inks can have, such as shading, sheen, and glitter, come through best with larger nib sizes. An EF nib doesn't put down a line that's wide enough, or wet enough, to display such properties very well. I have very small handwriting, but I learned to use fine, then medium, broad, and stub nibs because of their ability to display ink properties far better than EF nibs.
You have to decide for yourself how important fountain pen ink properties are, but the fountain pen world is about exploration and experimentation. Of course you can buy and use EF nibs, but this shouldn't stop you from trying other pens and other nibs. It's about having fun, learning new things, and going all the way down the rabbit hole.
@@jamesaritchie1 I have same problems and want to solve it. Could you please tell how to learn writing with M and the other nibs?
Thank you for doing this video. I was having trouble picking which nib I wanted on the Twsbi I want to purchase. I was going back and forth on the extra fine and the fine. Now I think I want the extra fine. I write small. Thank you so much.
Hi Donna, Glad it was helpful. What color did you order?
Jay Signed in Pink I was struggling with the same thing (and part of me wanted the stub) but I also tend to write anywhere from “relatively small” to “microscopic small” so I’m going with the EF too thanks to this video. Just hoping it’s not too scratchy compared to the F (I know it won’t be as smooth as the thicker ones) considering how close they look for line size.
I am trying to decide between Broad and the Stub 1.1 to add more character to my signature.
Broad! I use this to sign any legal documents. Super smooth and bold.
@@TheProductivityPsychologist I ended up with Twisbi's with all nib sizes.
Well, I plan on buying my first fountain pen being the Twsbi Eco with the fine nib. I’m very nervous that I won’t like the nib because it might be too small and if it is too small I’ll just have to live with it 😔 but it should be fine. As long as it’s not smaller writing than 0.3mm it should be fine.
I use the F nib for most of my writing in planners and for journaling. I think the size is neat and clean. I use a M nib for things that I am writing quickly like notes on the side of an article or book. I find both nib sizes to be smooth and I give the F nib to all my friends I'm trying to introduce to fountain pens.
Excellent review.
Very useful information.
Thank you for sharing.
I love your review. It's very helpful to see how the different nib sizes perform on the various papers. Greetings from a fellow leftie.
Lefties rule 🤓
Thank you for this video. It has been very helpful when sorting out which nib I should buy.
You're very welcome! 💙
Waiting for my first one to be delivered. thanks for sharing.
Thank you for this! Great job! Loved the video!
Thank you very much for this great comprehensive demo of TWSBi nib sizes on different papers. I have a TSBI blunt and it's fun, but I have very small hands and I'm thinking of getting a TWSBI with fine nib so that my loops are open. Once again, thank you for a very nice demonstration.
Mary Riley I just ordered a fine for the same reason. Hope I like it! :)
You're very welcome. Fine has become my favorite nib size of the Eco !
I honesty don’t see any difference between the extra fine and fine.
The difference seems minimal to me too. Some of my F nibs seem even "finer: than my EFs.
she doesn't know how to use a fountain pen...she write XX y she doesnt know why.... actually thats for line variation , but she can't do it ...even with the stub nib (facepalm)
@@speedyspin Very informative video. I especially like the xx's you drew. People usually rush fountain-pens and throw some irrelevant x's, like it's a Pollock art contest. Love how you take your time and demonstrate a consistent smooth balanced line.
@@asgaerdsertzserfinn3055 so you wanna be sarcastic ?
@@speedyspin No, honest. Were you trying to show how smart you are?
Great thanks - just what I needed, watching a left hander write was strangely odd mind haha
Glad it helped!
Just what I was looking for. Loved the video.
Glad it was helpful! ✍🏼
Helpful to watch-thank you! And glad to know you’re a lefty like me. 😊
This video helped me a lot in my choice of purchase. Thanks again ✒
Yes! Exactly what I was looking for - thank you 🙏😊
You are very welcome!
I just ordered the Fine nib TWSBI to add to my collection. So far, I have the medium and broad. I wanted to get the EF but had some reservations as to whether I can use it with my noodler’s bullet-proof inks. The 54th Mass is a beautiful ink but clogs up even a broad nib especially if the pen is left uncapped even for a minute. The black X-feather fares much better and looks great with fine nibs. I’m currently figuring out which brand to buy in red and purple, preferably one that’s free-flowing and friendly with highlighters but not bullet proof. Any ideas?
Which do you prefer, the medium or broad? I really can't make up my mind.
@@carlamariestudios I have both. Broad is for things like signing, art etc but not for regular writing on lined paper. Medium can be used for regular use. I have the fine as well and that’s probably the best for regular writing and can be used as EDC. Medium is smoother than the fine.
@@sonnyca Thank you! I've been leaning towards the medium, so I think I'll just go for it.
@@carlamariestudios I wish I had purchased the Diamond and not the Eco because the latter is constructed with mediocre quality plastic.
I've never had 54th clog any pen, including my TWSBIs. Of course, the pen doesn't clog if you leave the cap off, it just dries out, which is not the same thing as clogging. But I don't have a problem with it drying out very fast, either, and I use medium nibs every day. That said, no pen and no ink should be left uncapped, which is one more reason why posting a pen is a bad idea.
There are hundreds of good inks out there that aren't bulletproof, but bulletproof inks are not your problem. They just aren't. Tens of thousands of people use bulletproof inks routinely, and experience zero problems. If anything, bulletproof inks stop such problems.
Noodler's makes red and purple ink that is as good, as free-flowing, and as highlighter friends, as any ink on the market. But if you want beautiful, but cheap, ink that will meet your needs, go with Waterman. If you want a more expensive ink that does what you want, go with Iroshizuku.
But you might also consider buying other nibs. EF nibs simply are not very good fountain pen nibs. Most who use such nibs do so because they used ballpoints or gel pens with fine points, and refused to change when they started using fountain pens. Bad idea. Fountain pen ink needs wider lines, if you want to show off its properties, and if you don't want to do this, there really isn't much reason to use fountain pens.
Great comparison. I couldn’t decide between the extra-fine/fine and the stub. I like the line variations, but I think I would just have to write too big and not be able to use it much at work.
Doesn’t look like there’s much difference between the ef and f, perhaps feel, but I think I’m going to take a shot at the ef.
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You probably are going to end up with all twsbi in the end anyway like 1.1!
I like the much more then my Lamy.
How was it :D
Awesome review, super helpful. I couldnt tell much of a difference between EF and F - is it only in the video?
Thank you
I sometimes find it hard to see a difference between EF and F. Sometimes I even find an EF to be slightly thicker then the F sometimes 😲
Thank you for this great video, super helpful!
Hi, great review. Is the EF writing experience as smooth as the F? Deciding between the two. I find the Kaweco sport EF scratchy and super thin compared to the Kaweco F so prefer the Kaweco F. I don’t have a store close to me where I can try them out. Thank you!
Not really. I find the EF relatively smooth compared to the F time. Sometimes I would say the difference is barely noticeable 💙
Superb video Ive brought eco 1.1mm stub nib after watching your video.after my first attempt …i found that nib is very wet its very hard to write on a 90gsm or normal paper(ink used lamy beryl).im getting feathering effect with little bit of ghosting.if you know any hack please tell , how to make nib dry.thanks in advance😊
What’s a decent priced ( cheap) notebook that works well with fountain pens ? If you could give me like 3 to 5 different ones I’d appreciate it.
Also is it possible to just buy one TWSBI eco pen with let’s just say an EF NIB, then buy the F, M and B Nibs separately ?
Mike Rose I have the same questions. I just purchased my first fountain pen and as I was watching this I thought it might be less expensive to just buy the nibs. All these experienced people throw around the paper names and I get confused. My pen is a TWSBI ECO fine nib and I love it.
Candace Lindquist I just got the white TWSBI ECO IN A MEDIUM NIB
I should’ve got the extra fine the medium is so bold
Thanks for the nice and informative video! I am also left-handed and currently considering to buy a TWSBI pen, but it is really difficult to make a decision on the nib size. I have heard that TWSBI and Kaweco have nibs from the same manufacturer ("Jowo" or smth. like that). I am using Kaweco Perkeo in F and M, and really enjoy the smoothness of M (F is a bit scratchy to my taste). If you have experience with different brands, what nib size would you suggest to buy on TWSBI? Our local seller advised me to go for F, but I can well assume that he wants me to visit his shop twice, i.e. to return for am M later :) I would really appreciate your opinion!
I do think the M nib is smoother. It's the pen I use for patient notes in the hospital and field notes if I'm doing experiments. Anytime I want to write fast I use the M nib. I journal and do all my writing in planners with a F nib because it's neater and I don't need to go as fast. I find the F plenty smooth as well just not as smooth as the M. Hope that helps.
How did the stub feel? I’m a fan of any line variation I can get. Thanks!
To me it feels a little stiff but when I use a very light hand, it is easier to write with. I do think you get a good amount of line variation BUT it is do to the change in writing direction (horizontal/vertical) rather than any give in the nib.
Excellent Vid - Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Quite helpful, thank you!
Wonderful review! Thank you for that! :-)
You are most welcome. 💙
Super helpful, thank u!
Glad it was helpful!
Do you have a video on how waterman ink and tswbi eco works in a stalogy?
great review ,Thank you :)
Very useful info, thanks. Now I know I need a stub, not a broad.
Glad it was useful for you. I LOVE my broads 💙
Cannot decide between fine or medium nibs for everyday note taking. Can you give your thoughts between the two?
When I need to take fast meeting notes or quick notes to myself on a writing pad at work, I prefer the medium nib. It is super smooth. I prefer the F and EF nib for my Buller journaling or other places where I want a neater more polished looked.
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Which is most comfortable to write with?
I prefer the fine point and find that the most comfortable writing experience.
My twisby eco suffers a leaking of ink! I litteraly can’t use it... is it normal?
Check and make sure your nib and feed are completely in
E and ef look the same.
How does the smoothness compare?
I don't know which to get ;l
I think the F is the smoothest. The difference in size is negotiable so I generally go with the F over the EF. ✍🏼
@@TheProductivityPsychologist thanks can't wait until I can buy one :) we only get lamy pretty much here, but when I escape my country (Iran) I can't wait to try one! Who knows maybe I'll buy a fine and a broad.
I'm also debating 3d printing a pen lol
It's strange how the fine looks really dry and weird. like it has flow issues, I"m buying the pink fine anyways D: wish me luck. I wanted a medium transparent purple but the store is out of them.
how was the fine - I just can't decide. I need it to be smooth to tempt me away from disposable pens!
@@diane4091 i didn't get a fine, i got a medium and broad, both arrived with issues and the broad cracked from taking the nib out for fixing.
maybe i got unlucky. twsbi did agree to send me replacements but to my country that's 15$~ shipping :(
i'd recommend a kakuno or something. or a prera
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