Italian destroyer ship arrives, German frigate leaves 🇮🇹 🇩🇪
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- čas přidán 6. 11. 2022
- Watch a Germany Navy frigate depart, while an Italian Navy destroyer ship arrives in Portsmouth Harbour, UK. 🇩🇪 🇮🇹 🇬🇧
The Germany Navy Brandenburg-class frigate FGS Mecklenburg-Vorpommern was in Portsmouth for a few days following Exercise Joint Warrior. Watch it arrive: • NATO warships and airc...
The Italian Navy Horizon-class destroyer Andrea Doria arrived a few minutes after the German frigate had left.
Recorded: 2022
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Now we are all friends 🇩🇪🤝🏻🇮🇹🤝🏻🇬🇧
Absolutely! 💪
Well germany and Italy they were friends since second World War if you remember and the United Kingdom was they enemy that time
@@michellocci Italy was friend with GB during WW1.
@@mattia8327
No😉
It depends on the historical period.
Italy🇮🇹 fought both alongside Germany🇩🇪 and alongside Britain🇬🇧.
-With Great Britain🇬🇧:
1) Boxer Rebellion(1899-1901)
2) Venezuelan crisis(1902-1903)
3) Somaliland Campaign(1900-1920)
4) First World War (1914-1918)
5) Russian Civil War(1918-1920)
6) Occupation of Constantinople(1918-1923)
7) Turkish Independence (1919-1923)
8) Second World War (1943-1945) with the Badoglio Government
-With Germany🇩🇪:
1) Boxer Rebellion(1899-1901)
2) Venezuelan Crisis(1902-1903)
3) Spanish Civil War(1936-1939)
4) Second World War(1939-1943) with the Fascist Government.
The Italian Destroyer is quite interesting. Its twin front guns as well as completely enclose Superstructure looks quite formidable.
If i was on this ship i would be very worried, a few destroyer got sunk in the Falkland war bye excoset
Indeed. Some of the new guns are good for air engagements and small boat attacks. So you may need more than one for say fast boat swarms. . It's all about the ammunition.
The 76mm Strales are also good for counter Drones, Sub/SuperSonic cruise missiles(18km of range) and coastal bombing(40km of range).
@@janewilkin1984 I’m sure she has anti missile capability
Yes the uks missile defence
History is a funny thing. German and Italian war ships in Portsmouth Harbour as our allies. If you get my meaning. An awesome sight to see! ✌️🇬🇧🌹
You could make the same remark if the Dutch, Danish, Spanish and certainly the US Navy sends a ship ... But that's indeed history
@@lucvanackeren5445 I get your point. And it's a good point to make. I was thinking more of the ties between Germany and Italy in the second world war. And yet now their ships are cruising in and out of Portsmouth Harbour as our allies. Had that point in history turned out differently, I wonder what the world would have been like now? Putin I don't think would be doing what he is doing, or maybe not even exist. As I said in my original comment. History is a funny thing.
It's not the first time that all 3 of us collaborate together😁
Peace✌️
Peace ✌🏽
Bellissima l ' unita navale italiana 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Habe ich mir als Plastikmodellbausatz in 1:350 von Takom bestellt :) Grüße aus Deutschland
@@Cthulhu_Ryleh Grazie, Saluti dall'Italia!😊
The Italians have a great talent for designing beautiful things👏👏👏👍👍👍. Saluti all'Italia dalla Polonia
The Italian Destroyer looks very impressive . Love seeing guns on a ship , makes it stand out and says , Keep away . I would assume they are 5 inch
they are the oto-melara 76/62 cannons with rapid fire 120 rounds per minute. the Italians also use the cannon as anti-aircraft with the Vulcano oto-melara guided ammunition. there is a third gun at the stern
@@lucaiervasi8515 thank you .
As the user above said, the 76/62 mm Super Rapido has a rate of 120 rounds/minute.
🟥But I want to point out that what he said about the Vulcano is wrong.
The Italian 76/62mm has special ammunition which are:
🟦1) Standard Ammunitions: HE-FFS/MOM/SAPOM/SAPOMER with 16-20km of range, good precision for destroy Ships(MOM, SAPOM, SAPOMER) and Cruiser Missiles(MOM, HE-FFS).
Fact: MOM ammunition = Multi-role ammo(for destroy both ships and cruiser missiles)
🟦2) Special ammunition/New Gen:
a) DART guided ammunition with 5-8km of range for destroy Drone, Aircraft and Sub-SuperSonic cruise missile.
b) Vulcano GPS/IR: 40-45km of range for ONLY coastal bombing and naval battles(and not for Air-targets).
c)Vulcano Unguided: 30km of range, less precision of the Vulcano GPS/IR but better precision than the standard ammunitions.
76/62 rapid fire, can also use the Vulcano series of guided sabots with Vulcano-3 being able to engage land or sea targets up to 40k range, the round goes up in a very steep climb to 25.000 meters and then comes down almost vertical and GPS/IR guided striking the target at very high speed
Hi @ClaudeMagicBox
Vulcano-3 is the GPS Vulcano.
🟥The versions of the Vulcano Ammunition(127mm) are:
1) Vulcano Unguided: 35-40km range(25-30km for the 76mm)
2) Vulcano BER(Ballistic Extended Range): =>60km range.
3) Vulcano GLR(Guided Long Range): =>80km range(40-45km for the 76/62mm).
The GLR can increase the attack range with IR or SAL seeker systems up to 120km.
🟥The only flaw (as I wrote above) is that the Vulcano cannot shoot down aerial targets, so it must be accompanied by the anti missile/aircraft DART ammunition.
Can you imagine a Geman Frigate being allowed into Portsmouth Harbour 80 years ago or a Italian one
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All this military activity is no good omen.
@@_xO_Ox_ I agree !!!
@@_xO_Ox_ disagree it's this military activity between countries that's helping to keep security and safety in Europe and helping keep Russia back as well as terrorist organisations
IRONIC THAT GB ROYAL FAMILY IS GERMAN......
Bella 🇮🇹 😍
Italian DDG so much better than the UK Daring class and a better weapons load out !!
I'm Italian🇮🇹
I can tell you that these are things we cannot know because they are not in the public domain.
The CIWS defense and the NETTUNO 4100 Jammers make the Horizon more protected but if we talk about the Power of Radar we cannot know it🤔
@@CriscCiaddu Well I'm British, And I do know !! Our DDGs are nothing but trouble and the OTO David guns are better, the AA they have are better than Vulcans and your engines are much better !!! The Jammers is a small thing here and your Radar works great all this is known !! RN 1978-1986'
@@ronniefarnsworth6465
Wow, Thanks for the compliments!
Your destroyer is awesome too!
The Type-45 however has a better gun than 76mm gun, perfect for coastal bombardment and is more effective for fighting other ships due to its superior caliber and attack range.
Regarding the engine, it will certainly not be the ship that has a few more knots speed to make the difference in war, so even the Type-45 remains incredible 😉
The EMPAR🇮🇹 and SAMPSON🇬🇧 Radars are said in the forums that they are similar, but they have no sources to make comparisons as no company would allow themselves to release classified of modern Weapons data to the public, but the SAMPSON has an advantage because it is an AESA Radar, while the EMPAR is a PESA.
AESA>PESA
Italian Destroyer is a Horizon class (French/Italian production 2007 ) .
Great video as always. Thank you Edited to Add: The Italian ship looks like the Daleks are invading from the front and side
I hope we will cooperate together for the new Destroyer😖
Type 83🇬🇧 🤝 DDX🇮🇹
Italy is always cooperating with everyone but especially France and also the UK, tend to leave a lot of projects.
Eurofighter -france left
Horizon class -uk left
The new FCAS and Future Tank program are struggling because france and Germany can't cooperate.
Etc....
@@mattia8327 You're right, FCAS is going badly while MGCS is unknown where it will go.
With the TEMPEST🇮🇹🇬🇧🇯🇵(🇸🇪?) program we can replace FCAS, and I'm sure the French will aim for their "Plan B" to build the Rafale 2.0, so Thales said.
Concerning the MGCS there is a probability that UK and Italy could buy the Euro-MBT to replace their Challenger 2 LEP and C2 Ariete (ex-Ariete AMV) from 2035.
For now on the new DDX in the program collaborates with Spain
@@met71metaldetector55
It would be interesting if the DDX entered the PESCO program as a future destroyer/cruiser of the EU while the French with their future aircraft carrier PANG.
Coming back to the DDX, I hope they will become a standard for the EU🇪🇺, not only for Spain🇪🇦 and Italy🇮🇹 but also for France🇫🇷, the UK🇬🇧 and Greece🇬🇷, obviously building different variants that adapt to the needs of their navies
Italians do love their 76s
Other 52 navies love them too
Fantastic videos guys really like seeing war ships come in out of port thanks👍💯
Happy to provide! :]
Belle navi ma vorrei suggerire ai miei compatrioti un ritocco alla ruggine sotto i cannoni………..anche l’occhio vuole la sua parte….
Esatto.. un trucco leggero veloce veloce soprattutto quando incontri persone che non conosci ahahahah
Great video. ✌️⚓👍
Awesome video! 🙂
Thank youse!
Crazy times ahead
D 553 Andrea Doria
Classe Orizzonte il vanto della nostra Marina Militare 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
The Mecklenburg-Vorpommern is an OLD ship of the German Marine (it was built in 1993) and went into service in 1995. The only thing special about it is that it was the first frigate to be named after one of the new states that came after the reunification of the country.
The actual most significant class of the German Marine is called the "Sachsen Class", there are three of them the "Sachsen", "Hamburg", and "Hessen" so it cannot be called a "flagship".
A new class, the Fregattenklasse 126 (MKS 180), it will operate in 2028.
search 15k tons DDX-type ITS destroyer for 2028
@@AlexanderSixtyFour Sure, but in my case, I was not talking about Italy or the USA.
@@maximilianschwab9668 but we are NATO, Germany, Italy or US. Under the same flag we fight.
@@AlexanderSixtyFour Oh well .. that is not exactly that way. The USA destroyed Nord Stream II, a project that had cost us germans several milliards of euros, and it will cost ALL EUROPEANS a lot of money in the future. So I am not really sure what is best for all of us ... one thing is for sure, some members of NATO are more "equal" than others. I am even less sure about why our government did shut its mouth, was it consensual, or were they just bullied to endure such an impertinent attack without the possibility of saying anything against it ... doing anything against it seems out of the question. So something is going really wrong here.
Very cool!
The Horizon class is likely to be armed with stopover cruise missiles in the future as will be the case on the new DDXs
Great video again boys keep it up 👍👍👍
Thanks for all your comments Sandy!
Awesome
Our new frigates are already big (german 125-Class) & have now 7.500tons but the next frigate class 126 will have much more with 10.000 tons and is bigger than an us destroyer from Arleigh Burke with 8.500 tons. But we dont want to call our big ships destroyer... lol
Nomenclature in today's warships is getting out of control - not just in Germany, but everywhere, partly for political reasons. 10k tons should be a (not-so-)light cruiser, not a destroyer, let alone a frigate. And yet...
search 15k tons DDX-type ITS destroyer for 2028
Horizon destroyers have lovely lines. A pity to see running rust streaks just below the gun deck. I understand that Italian captains would often stop off-shore for a quick paint job, particularly if they have to come into a British port (some style is required with former enemies, you know). Perhaps they had bad weather.
Concordo...
It's normal to have rust on these ships, when they have been at sea for a prolonged periode of time, just look at pictures of US Destroyers, when they return to port, they look like a rusting holk, ready for scrap!
Ho notato la stessa carenza, ed è un peccato.
It' very true, need cure ship
it could be rust, but it is strange that it is only under the two bow cannons: I would not exclude that it could be gunpowder residue, which should be repainted anyway
Andrea Doria…..eccellente,ma anche la nave tedesca con scherza….
Over top with the fast shutter
Mammamia quanta ruggine.
I read the title as social commentary.
It caio + korkut D + brahmos+ mark 50 torpd modern warships fav. Combin
✌️🇮🇹💖👍
where is the Flag ? Italian Flag please...i have payed also for the flag dear capitain
Can anyone say .but are we getting more ships than usual into Devonport.
History is not made of ww2 only, can we please look at a longer time span?
...ma dove sono le bandiere italiane, sulle navi italiane?
R.I.P.
I wonder how often Italian Navy ships operate in the Atlantic Ocean? I would imagine that they
would be found almost exclusively in the Mediterranean Ocean.
Blue water fleet.
mediterraean is a sea, an ocean yet :). We we'll never know how it operate in Tristan sea of Titan either.. it is intended mainly for another sea. Italian armed forces take a lot in account navy. like England we have a very long cost. it's 8000 km. all UK is 12500.. it's a bit more even than Spain wich is 8000 km. The destroyers Andrea Doria is 20 years old, middle age like me :)
@@mrmetalzeb4596 The Italian Navy is a blue water navy: it is designed to operate outside the Mediterranean, practising autonomous doctrines going far beyond the mere defence of the Med.
@@gs7828 sure but keeping in mind where Italy is. Submarines like Belgorod would be less usefull then a U212A. Consider you have to patrol also north adriatic where average deep is 15 meters. Consider Nimiz couldn't access Venice lagoon for the insufficient deep. Of course they had mediterranean sea in mind which anyway can get deeper than 5000 m, not a lagoon.. and of course they are not intended for sweet water and there are no problems at all to operate outside Mediterranean sea. The Cavour aircraft carrier is 244m long.. I wouldn't call it pocket-sized..
@@mrmetalzeb4596 The Belgorod is nuclear though. As far as I understood, the Italian ones are more silent and that's prioritised in the Med doctrine. Italy's got quite the amphibious units (e.g. San Marco regiment), though they can operate elsewhere too, as we've seen Italian carrier groups in the arctic.
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I live 5 mins walk from there. 👌
Thanks for this news, dear friend 😊
Moin, was ist ein Fregattenschiff?
Semoga indo segera deal sama freemm
Bagus banget
Andrea Doria
Its the old German F123 Class Frigate. In Service is the F124 and F125 Class too. And F126 is in planing
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Looking like the old type 45
Their boxy but they are good
Caio Duilio 😍
ANDREA DORIA
È la Andrea Doria…purtroppo si vede anche dalla ruggine 😢 speriamo le diano presto un po’ più di coccole ❤
No, It's the Andrea Doria 👉 D553
Caio Duilio 👉 D554
This frigate is strong like destroyer.
...frigate in name, destroyer in size, cruiser in firepower...!
That frigate is an old piece of junk
This destroyer is a big fregate because italian destoyers have no cruise missiles on board and multi task 3" guns.
Ma dov'è la bandiera?
Si usa ammainare la bandiera al tramonto e mantenere issata quella di cortesia
Indovina ? 😂😂😂
Itália com submarino com 60 lançador de mísseis balístico intercontinental Thad e antiaérea hipersonicos Thad americano
NA,TO in lingua Albanese 🇦🇱 significa NOI,VOI poi al contrario O,TAN in lingua Albanese 🇦🇱 significa SONO,TUTTI 🇦🇱
Any German guy here?
ke stile la bella Andrea Doria
That old German frigate is embarassing
IS THAT IT CAIO DUILLIO
No, It's the Andrea Doria 👉 D553
Caio Duilio 👉 D554
Andrea Doria
Certo che la differenza tra la marina italiana e tedesca si vede...
9:12 What vehicle?
It's the car of the US president
@@VCOSTA1861 👍
I've seen better
Back in the day Roma battleship
To behonest they look quite old compared to the Royal navy and American ships.
Che dici?.documentati e vedrai che gli italiani sonoall'avanguardia
Douglas Taggart
You just made an ass of yourself. The Italian destroyers Andrea Doria class are from the same design as the British Type 45 ones. So they cannot look any older.
You just lost a good opportunity to stay silent.
Guns adjacent to the bridge ? Hhmm
Kinda funny that german frigate is more heavily equip than a destroyer
No, they aren't: Brandenburg-class frigate: length 138 metres, displacement 4,490 ton full load. Armament: 1 x 76 mm naval gun, 2 x 27 mm rapid-fire cannons, 16 antiaircraft missiles Sea Sparrow (max range 20 km), 21 x RAM (max range 10 km) , 4 x MM38 Exocet antiship missiles, 4 x 324 mm torpedo tubes.
Horizon/Andrea Doria -class destroyer: length 153 m, displacement 7,770 tons full load. Armament: 3 x 76mm Super-Rapid guns, 2 x 25 mm guns, 1 x 48-cell VLS Aster 30 missiles (range 120 km) + fitted for 16 cells additional, 8 x TESEO Mk-2 antiship missiles, 2 × torpedo tubes with 24 torpedoes stored.
Kinda funny you don't know what are you talking about.
@@solinvictus1234 im german what do you expect?
@@christianjunhoffman9142 Ofcourse, expecting from a German a little bit of intellectual honesty it's asking too much.
@@solinvictus1234 based on your name bet your spanish? All show no bark
Mmm I wonder if the Italian ship has propulsion troubles like our 6 donkey 45s
Nope, they've never had that issue. It was an issue solely of the Type 45 Rolls Royce engines.
They have never given problems, indeed if we look at the former Italian frigates wolf class that are from Peru they are over 50 years old and still going
@@met71metaldetector55 Exactly!
Fregattenschiff, Zerstörerschiff? Peinlich...
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It's got a glass deck so it can see the old Italian navy
Yeah, and old English navy too.
the andrea doria.. oddly cursed name for a warship.. II thought it was the Caio Duilio
Please explain
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@@giovannidepetris6335 andrea doria was a civilian ship that sunk
Oh yeah, those WW2 heroes from Italy 😀😀😀
You can say it for sure!🧐😎
Naar, the real heros were the entire british army backing off from the fight at Dunkirk.
Them are heros for sure. No wait.. maybe it was the British surrendering to the japanise attacking force in Singapore, which was five times smaller in numbers. I think the white flag you rased is still there.
Ad Alessandria ci sono ancora le vostre due corazzate affondate dalla nostra decima. 😂😂??
Quelli che ho letto non mi sembrano rispettosi ma stupidi; e la stupidità non è rispetto. Sfortunatamente c'è il traduttore e così ho potuto leggere diversi commenti "di guerra". Credevo che solo in Italia esistessero gli stupidi, mi accorgo invece che ce ne sono di più nel resto d'Europa. Che significano questi discorsi? la mia nave è migliore della tua? È più nuova? Più armata? E cose del genere e senza senso? Che dobbiamo fare un'altra guerra? Ritiratevi e non dite più fesserie.
I'm surprised to see that the Italian destroyer arrives forward and not like their tanks in reverse.
What tanks? we never had one
Read about your tanks being destroyed by the Fogore using the weapons they took from your army in Nort Africa. In Singapore and Dunkirk you guys were literally flying.
Come i vostri soldati a Dunkerque ??
l' italia non ha bisogno dei carri armati non abbiamo le seppe come in europa , ci proteggono le alpi e le colline , li i carri armati sono inutili meglio avere artiglierie e navi
You can't compare ships of different generations
I don't think the video is a comparison
Le destroyer italien ressemble a un vatican flottant 😂😂😂
If you are French you will also know that the ship is Italian-French.
Horizon Class 🇫🇷/🇮🇹
🤣🤣🤣Francese, quanto sei ignorante!
@@stefanoludwig45 Je parlais de la partie italienne ! 🤣🤣🤣
you french......some of you are,,,,can not say but you know what I mean don't you?
@@christianbargain560 ?????
German junk and Italian high tech.
Thank You.
the german is from 93 while the italian is from 05 alot happend in ship design in that gap
Germans.... forgive and forget major.
@@kenstevens5065 The German Navy is a joke. Even the modern ships are not fit for purpose. Utter shambles. 🇩🇪
When the Italians leave you in the dust , you know you messed up biggly. 🇮🇹
@@Endurer92 The powerful italian/french Fremm-Frigates for example,the germans went to ridiculous designs like the new F125-Type.
@@hansulrichboning8551 that's not a FREMM ... it's a Horizonte- class Destroyer... , a far nephew of the Daring class ...
Bestimmt wieder reichlich Flüchtlinge an Bord
Was ein hirnloser Kommentar.
Geh mal in den Keller Franz, ich glaub die Flüchtlinge sind da.
@@steve1978ger da sind schon genug haben alle die Notbeleuchtung an
@@franzganz7677 Respekt das Du Flüchtlinge aufnimmst. Doch kein verkappter NAZI. Oder doch? Und die Notbeleuchtung? Cool. Und "Wir" wissen wo dein Keller ist. Ick hau mir wech.
British women like Italian's torpedoes
GB CARRIER HMS PRINCE TAMPAX. 😁 GB TODAY IS THE LITTLE BRITAIN'S PARODIA
Es geht das Gerücht um, das itl. SCHIFFE + PANZER nur rückwärts fahren können ??
Mi non si riescono a leggere i commenti come mai???
Chi l'ha fregata la nave tedesca?
Zelenski
😁😄
Wird sicher auch bald Afrikaner abholen in Libyen für Deutschland
Unfair comment.
Wuerde mich nicht wundern.
@@lellomatera3870 unfair, really?
Oh, ein Putinanhänger der hier Stimmung machen möchte.
Teddy don’t worry because German NGO are shipping them to Italy!!!