Did single mom's shocking sex life lead to her disappearance? - Crime Watch Daily Full Episode
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- čas přidán 23. 02. 2024
- In this episode of Crime Watch Daily: Despite a disturbing confession, the disappearance of Nancy Moyer still remains a mystery.
Man, if I ended up in one of these episodes, it would be so boring. "...was a pretty average person with not much going for him. He enjoyed laying down, sleeping and binge watching True Crime Daily episodes.."
These are real stories with real people. It's not supposed to be entertaining. Unless you lost a loved one to murder, I guess you'll be entertained.
Hehehe… As long as you don’t have a smile that lights up a room, then you should be safe! 🤣
Same here
You aren’t alone
😂
It would seem being a single mother makes people feel they have the right to judge her publicly regarding her sex life.
It's a political trend, it seems.
Exactly 😡
It is outrageous to even mention it. What is scandalous about a single woman having a sex-life? Nothing at all.
I respectfully disagree. When you're a parent you have an obligation to put your kids first. Children who's parents are dating and have romantic partners in their lives are over 66% more likely to be physically or xu. ally. abused. And over 84% more likely to be emotionally abused. And the numbers are likely much much higher than even this because a lot of people don't report the abuse understandably. When you CHOOSE to have kids you are deciding to put your wants and needs behind theirs for the next 18 years. Tons of people are like but my partner wouldn't do that, and that's what every parents who's kid was ended by a bf/gf stepparent thought too. How could anyone know these statistics and still think my want to not be alone trumps their safety? Look at this very case. She's lucky he only ended her and didn't go after her children too. It's still very sad what happened to her and now her kids are growing up without a mother.
True...and legitimate. If you have kids that should be your focus...not getting it rubbed.
WHY ON EARTH does the world need to know about her sex toys? This is just wrong. She has a family.. how about some respect for the dead?
Newsflash: People with families have sex toys. Just because you die doesn't mean you deserve respect.
She was even separated. It's not right she was shamed like that. I agree with you.
Because someone having sex toys is shameful and something to disrespect?
@triggerskull Maybe in the 1950s. The way the older detective went on about gels was unbelievable. It was as if he'd found kilos of Fentanyl and human sacrifice memorabilia in her bag.
Meh who cares? The truth is having a stash of that kind of thing is kinda gross. And you never know how long you will be on this earth. If something happens, even with natural causes...strangers sometimes but usually family goes through everything you own EVERYTHING. The get rid of it or it becomes an inheritance. My advice, don't keep that stuff. Kids too can easily find it and can cause all kinds of uncomfortable situations. And if youre put in this situation they can talk about it.
Committing murder is scandalous, not sex toys. Get it right, True Crime Daily. Shame!
I agree. It seems to me, the cops gave up on the butcher bloke, as they couldn't get a confession, so decided to blame the victim, implying she's a wh*re, because she had some adult entertainment toys. Seriously??!!
My thoughts exactly. My 72 year old female friends has and uses sex toys. It's not that unusual.
It is nobody’s business if she had an adventurous sex life as a single person.
Triggered much?
That threw me off, too. What's wrong with having sex toys and a sex life? They kept bringing it up as if it were an anomale. 🙄
What shocking sex life? Oh my God! She had sex toys!!! The sex toys did it! So annoyed by this coverage. Victim blaming at the worst.
It was Colonel Mustard with the dildo in the library.
Cope
I was going to save this for later, but these comments! Lol🤣 Yours was the final straw
Yeah, no one says anything about his butt plug or beads!
Did you hear him say there were, dare I say it... gels? No two ways about it; the sex toys were the culprit.
I like how this old guy sees sex toys and immediately labels her as some kind of pervert, hard to solve crimes in 2024 when you are still living in 1824.
and implies that she would run away! a dedicated mom (even if she enjoys sex) is not necessarily going to abandon her kids bc she has a bag of toys and lube 😮 so stupid
If the shoe fits….
If you are screwing everyone you can get into bed with, yes, that is perverted.
I don’t think Nancy’s sex life is anyones business.
I absolutely agree!
Yea it’s one thing if her intimate life really did lead to her killer and there was an actual connection, so they need to explain it further. Otherwise whatever people do in their intimate lives has no worth mentioning. RIP Nancy
It shouldn’t be, but read up on victimology and you’ll understand. Her sister’s remark about her wanting to experience what she missed plus the bag full of sex toys could indicate something of behavior that might have attracted a predator. Problem is if there were lots of random men unknown to others in her life, where do cops look?
if it has something to do with the case then yes it is
Sounds like you just made it all of our business...... Why???❓❓❓
Why does the title make it sound like it's her fault for being a victim of crime, as some kind of depraved creature? Sad, and also disrespectful to her family
Women should organise solidarity marches. It's so unessicary and irrelevant.
Lots of victim blaming IMO.
This channel is so so guilty of victim blaming and shaming (especially female) victims of *gasp* having an active sex life. It's pretty gross.
So true. They should have put a different title. Very disrespectful. As if it's her fault.
They’re trying to warn women about living a certain lifestyle. You can’t trust strangers. Women are high risk
Having sex toys and having an active sex life is scandalous? WTF is going on with the coverage of the first story. To be honest, her sex life is a non factor and shouldn’t even have been mentioned.
Seriously! How disgusting to shame her like that. Clearly the script was written by some insecure misogynist.
I get someone pulled up and she went to “buy them drugs” and she thought they’d be right back.
@@lilyt18right?!! Tf is the problem with us females pleasing outselves?! Not like these men do it properly anywho 💀
Naw. It has a lot to do with it. Stop playing like it don’t. Smdh. Accountability and females never mix.
Social worker here, just a few miles from where Nancy Moyer disappeared. Rural area with extremely corrupt cops that hate women. I've been treated like absolute dog 💩💩💩 any time my safety was in danger. If you're a liberal, you're a whore.
Omg, I can only imagine how horrified the first family is that their loved one is being portrayed by the show and LE as some kind of sex fiend when all they want is to know where she is and what happened to her! She sounds like an average woman who got married and had children at a young age. 😢
Exactly
Ya it's not out of line for a full grown woman to have toys and date men. It rubbed me the wrong way as well. Kinda makes me think if it was a single father doing the same, they wouldn't have mentioned it. Also bothers me that her daughters may eventually see this episode and that is not okay. ❤
I am glad that is not the norm, some people has morals.
Really? Slut shaming and humiliating a murdered mother??? Fucking GROSS
Real facts
Well was she ?
Not at all ..if you have no shame it wouldn't nor shouldn't bother you
Bc they need views. Promiscuity of women sells. They need to make the story spicy.
infuriating to say the least
Wow
! SEX TOYS !
Call the police
Wait until the detective finds out how many women actually use sex toys to get off. Men don’t do the job
Don't forget about the gels 😂
It's not that they don't do the job, it's just that individual is worn out.
Haha
"Men don't do yhe job..." Speak for yourself. 😂
It's not the having toys that trips me out... it's when they have a Huge FAT ass dildo. I'm like SHIT! She can take a whole Forearm 😅
That’s why I don’t light up ANY room I’m in.
nothing wrong with being a side character if this is what happens to the main characters
Don't be givin' anyone that shirt off yo' back either!
These comments took me out 😂
Yuppppp; I’m darkening every room I enter; efff thatttt!!!
Or live in a town where people leave their doors unlocked because crime never happens there.
Absolutely not. I knew Nancy and her children. She was a dedicated mother and hard worker with a normal life. Her house was on a curve where she could be abducted without being seen by neighbors (if the deputy mentioned was no longer in place).. Husband Bill is as true blue honest as he appears in the documentary. I suspect someone lured her out to their car from the porch, then quickly, grabbed, subdued and kidnapped her. Besides the suspects named here, there were railroad workers from out of town working just across the road (so I have been told.) The focus on sex toys is ludicrous and sensationalistic. It is a mystery I pray we can solve one day for the sake of her family. Where is she?
Look in the comments, everyone agrees that the fact she had a few lovers as a single person & was dating, & the fact she had dildoes, is very average, and they're turning it into something else salacious.
Her story was especially heartbreaking to think about her girls going through life not knowing. I’m glad to see so many people in the comments agreeing that the info about the “toys” is ludicrous. ❤
This is a distasteful story. Not too late to delete.
@@corycarr oh, shut up and go watch a Disney movie or something less “distasteful.”
🙄🙄🙄
Tfoh
Thank you! The sex toy thing is ridiculous. It's old school sexism, subtly blaming the victim by exposing her "lifestyle". She was an adult woman with a sex life, that's not that scandalous
Horrific title- shame on YOU!!
😂😂😂
Did someone really look into the cop that saw Nancy last??
That was my first thought when they said Abt the cop seeing her carry her groceries in. I immediately thought it could be him. 😮
Exactly!!!!
My thought exactly
Why mention the sex toys? She seems like a regular mom who dedicated her life to her kids. It’s very disturbing for them to view her like this. It’s not like she’s the inly mom with sex toys!! They need to retract this statement and show her true character. My hope is they can find her so her kids can be at peace
That part 👍🏼
I don’t see what the sex toys has anything to do with the story!
Well women that use sex toys are known to run away, so it definitely is relevant 🥴
@@AggressiveMediocrity1 How old are you????? A teenager??
@@AggressiveMediocrity1 wtf are you talking about? You sound ignorant af
@@queenofthebutterflies5212 it was a joke, relax.
She's a woman, and women doing anything freely sexual that doesn't involve male dictation bothers many. They will victim shame in attempts to stop other women from "acting out of line"
This episode paints her to be some scarlet woman and it’s her fault she got murdered. Wtf - a man’s perspective clearly. Vile
When I heard single mother I started searching the comments for supreme gentlemen
She was still very married, and her divorce wasn't finalized yet. 🚫💍💎💔💦
Don't blame us men, I think her sex toys shouldn't have even been mentioned, it is disrespectful to her and her family.
@@manuelsoares9698 It's clearly a man's perspective. That's all that was said. Why are you so insecure that the second you read anything about men you immediately picture that person talking about you?
@@FoxExcess I am pretty secure with myself and my masculinity. If I made a claim regarding a woman's perspective coming from a man, I expect a woman to chime in with her opinion. Welcome to the internet in which we can all express our opinions and perspectives. Have a nice day)
True crime just delete this if you’re just going to victim blame & shame
where's the victim blaming?
Her main priority is the kids but breaks up the family for sex parties.
Stop judging her for her sex toys and find her for her family. Ridiculous 🙄🙄
Right! I absolutely agree.
The investigation always finds dirt in people's personal lives and brings it out. I feel sorry for her family
stop judging yourself
Crazy how some ppl in the comments judging her for having a sex life. She is grown and sex is apart of life rather single or a couple. Whatever she chose to do doesn’t give anyone the right to cause her harm
No one should own sex toys, and that's why men & women have hands and fingers. 🤌🧠💪👍🍻
The pearl clutching is off the chain.
Like they've never seen a dildo before. 😅😂😂😂😂
Ikr. I'm not even finishing this episode.
And so many June Cleavers must have done the wrong stitch in their needlepoint hearing about the toys, and their Incel sons in the basement putting down their lotion and talking about morals as they flip between this and their favorite co play video as Maria the blow up doll watches from the corner
where?
I have an IQ of 360, and I don't know what pearl clutching is.....??? Please explain this in detail. 🧠💪👍🍻
God forbid a woman has a healthy sex life without a husband!!!!! I’m a mental health professional and nothing about the bedroom habits sounds “depraved” or “inappropriate” AND to act like her actions are deserving of death is DISGUSTING. You should be ashamed of this crime watch daily…
Healthy 😅😅😅😅
These women go lengths
You sound triggered. Almost like you lived a similar lifestyle and can’t accept that other people find it promiscuous. What makes sleeping with multiple people a healthy sex life. And who cares about profession.
Hide your sex toys before you die. 😂
@@parthsavyasachi9348 Yeah I don't see anyone saying "she got what was coming to her" or "deserved it". They just found some bizarre stuff and wondered if as is often the case it may have brought her into proximity of a weirdo. I just saw a case recently of a piece of shit in New Mexico that killed her own kid so she could have a three way with her dog and some guy she met online.
@@christopherjohnson2171 true that.
These people have just described most woman I know lol
Disgusting that Crime Watch shows this as a “secret sex life!” What..? Her sex life is supposed to be open for all to know? Crime watch absolutely sucks!!! Disgraceful and shameful.
I lived in Centralia and ran in the same circles with Nancy she was as vanilla as it gets. Completely normal, honest hard working woman. Please don't say these horrible things about her, her children have been put through hell already. Shame on anyone saying anything bad or negative about Nancy.
The TITLE is disrespectful
it isn't
Why??? She had tons of sex toys in her room.
Interesting... any other job that the "Saturday night date" and they'd name him, but because he's a police officer, they don't name him. Weird eh?
I usually enjoy this show but I found it offensive that they made such a big deal about her having a bag of sex toys, or a racy book then dating after a divorce and trying new things. Those things don't equate to a "wild life"? She was a grown women who unfortunately was harmed but its crazy when they cast the victim in a certain way!
how did it offend you?
I know! It’s very offensive that people act like you’re a terrible person if you have anything like that and/ or if you are dating anyone. Or even just have a glass of wine after work. Sometimes you just need to wind down. Even if she was using those by herself, I respect her for not having some creepy guy around her daughters. Dating someone new is scary! So many kids are assaulted or even killed by a step parent or parent’s significant other!
Sounds pretty wild to me. And I will guarantee it had a lot to do with why she had lost her husband. She wanted the single life
@@kimmy722having sex toys is considered "wild" to you? You must be a senior huh?
I'm sorry Karen aka ishab, but I'm confused on how it offended you personally? I can see it being an insult or her family taking offense to it but it has nothing to do with you. Its like you took offense because you like sex toys or sleeping around 😂
These police are ignorant. What the hell does her having sex toys have to do with some sick person taking her life?
how is that ignorant?
The title and narrative feel like an episode aired in 2005. The judgement over sex toys etc is really outdated. The look on the guys face when he's saying it shows how much he's loved spreading that gossip. Sick.
I've seen this case a few years ago. When I read the title of the video, I checked when it was posted, because her face seemed familiar and I thought CZcams is recommending something old.
@@mini_skinny0296All non-podcast uploads from this channel are reruns of the show being uploaded to the channel. The show itself went off the air years ago.
2005? This wouldn't have been cool then either. I hate when people act like 20 years ago was the 1940s.
What was the point announcing to the world this poor woman had sex toys. And then stating it lead to her death. Times have changed since his “day”.
This shows quality has significantly dropped over the last year
You know.... it REALLY has.
Facts
The show itself doesn't even exist anymore. They just have the podcast. Everything else is reruns from when the show was on the air.
Sounds like your morality has, too.
@@FluffyNinjaUnicorn3Gaming Well unless this was aired 70 years ago there's no reason for victim shaming her like this. Who is this century cares about something like this is in a murder case where there is a ton of evidence that her "lifestyle" had nothing to do with anything.
For what I understand, these are old episodes, just being recycled. When I looked online of the original dates for these episodes, it was back in 2016 or around that time.
Yeah, they post these videos over and over. I’ve seen some and then they post them again. I watch them thinking it’s an update but it’s the same episode they already posted. So annoying. I hasn’t seen this one yet though.
@@angeliquemaez5569 mi think bc the show got cancelled
2016...... Not 1916!
"I was shocked! I had to take a step back and blink twice!" Oh my! Dude, did you ever wonder what that buzzing sound is whenever you call Helen when you are working the night shift? Or why batteries are always on her grocery list? Go home and be prepared to take 2 steps back and blink 3 times when you open Helen's nightstand drawer.😅
Lmao 😂
😂
I just checked the meat in my freezer, It say's sourced in the UK but packaged in China, should I be worried?
Open it up and if the odor and color doesn’t knock you out, share it with a “neighbor” first ;-) Kidding you, my friend!
You should be worried. What you have is actually human meat. You might want to throw it away.
Why did the meat have to travel from the UK to China to be packaged and then be sent back? The question above is what I'd be asking. Let us please know.
As long as it doesn’t say America your ok lol
@@tck3041
My comment was just a joke, but your comment deserves an answer. Our meat has nothing to do with China, but fish caught in UK's waters are shipped over to China, processed and then shipped back and that's pretty much why I wrote my comment.
Unsolved crimes bother me much i literally will avoid watching them because i get so annoyed! I hope they get justice ASAP. RIP.🙏🌹💔
(14:50) This detective clutching his pearls, "stunned"(🙄), gasping and fainting over a single woman's private belongings is so utterly asinine. And in HIS wild imagination he conjured up her having some sort of deviant "life style." 🙄 He'd probably slam into a coma if he searched HIS wife's closet.
"I was shocked! I had to take a step back and blink twice!" Oh my! Dude, did you ever wonder what that buzzing sound is whenever you call Helen when you are working the night shift? Or why batteries are always on her grocery list? Go home and be prepared to take 2 steps back and blink 3 times when you open Helen's nightstand drawer.😅
@@ellybean5868
Blinking thrice is serious! 😄
For a homicide investigator, he seems fragile and naive. I hope he's not in a position of investigating a woman after her bridal shower/Bachelorette party and finds the box of "joke gifts" of bedroom toys her friends have given her. He might think she has a "secret" tawdry "life style." 😂
Oh my Lawd. He's shocked and outraged. Probably a devout Christian or something. If it was a few assault rifles and pistols he'd be be all hunky dory.
That guy found a dead lady and was just taking her to be disposed of to save her family from funeral expenses? That's a great story. I can't believe they didn't accept it and let him go.
People are evil......and very stupid. A really bad combination.
I usually really enjoy Crime Daily, but to imply that her using sex toys caused her death is outrageous. Victim shame much? I wish everyone who was involved in this case , including cops, could have their sex lives analyzed and critiqued. I'm sure sex toys is the most boring thing involved. This is so misogynistic.
I agree. It's none of anyone's business. Even if she was married. Every woman is entitled to masturbation without being shamed. I really don't think it was relevant and it's not nice for her family. But lingerie and stuff she needed a partner for might be relevant but it could have been handled more tastefully.
Damn someone feels targeted 😳
lol how did they imply that her sex toys caused her death?
I highly doubt the people involved in this case have sex lives at all. We all saw them.. That's probably why they were so surprised and acted like it was something so unusual. "I had to take steps back and blink my eyes twice" lol. Come the fuck on. This investigator acts like he still has PTSD from it.
She brought it upon herself- Sorry. Sexual immorality is a sin and it doesn’t appear she was repenting.
That investigator is just dumb. There's no right answer to that question to the co-worker,"If you knew where her body was, would you tell us?" If you say no, because you don't know where she is, they imply you know, but won't tell them. If you say yes, they'll say you agreed to tell them where the body is. If you say you don't know, they'll say you're not answering the question & being evasive & that makes you guilty. Smh.
Most innocent people would say YES of course, if I knew where a body was I’d tell you.
@krystaldaniels7940 That's absurd. I'm extremely good at word problems & that question is the literally thee dumbest question, I've ever heard.
I thought the same about this question. The only smart response se is to refuse to answer it.
And what would any answer to this question do to advance the investigation? I don't think either a "yea" or "no" answer provides any insight to the investigator. The detective probably learned this question at some b.s. murder investigation seminar held at the Holiday Inn in the state capital.
Even worse than being a useless question is that either answer (yes or no) can be used to make the person look bad.
@@mweimorts And a non- answer, too. Then, they're being 'evasive'. Lol
What years did these two tragedies occur ? They do not mention the dates ever
Nancy Moyer 2009.
All you have to do 8s Google the names if it's that important.
Wow. Way to victim blame True Crime Daily. Disgusting.
Sex is great. Don't know what all these people taking. Give me 2 lmfao
where?
15:07 "(there were) all kinds of gels". Oh noooooooooooo
This comment section is ridiculous. They mentioned the bag of sex toys once and her sister was the one who admitted that she was having relations with many men and being secretive about it. There are many murders that are sexually connected and officers would want to know as many of her connections as possible. Most murders of women are committed by someone they know. If she wasn't letting anyone else know the men she was connecting with, that makes ot difficult to be able to investigate everyone. I didn't find their coverage or the detectives' comments the least bit offensive. Nothing was shaming. Everyone just seemed to get on the "I'm 72 and have a giant bag of sex toys. I'm offended that anyone would talk about that if I disappeared or was murder! How dare you!"
Most murders period are by people known to the victim. That's not some trend with women only.
"Nothing was shaming"
Are you high? Read the title.
"Did single mom's shocking sex life LEAD to her disappearance?"
First off it's not remotely shocking, second they're clearly implying she's just being reckless and screwing random guys all the time, even going further. Yet the evidence doesn't remotely show that. All it shows it that she masturbates and goes on some casual dates.
The only thing that LEAD to her disappearance was the person who committed the crime. That is not a victim's fault. The title is not only stupid, but what parent would want some two bit news program commenting on their sex toys in tv programs that millions of people are going to see, including their kids. You wouldn't want that, so stop acting like nothing is wrong here and that all these people are just crazy who are not happy about how this was talked about. You see nothing wrong with a cop finding some sex toys and then going on a program saying that she could have just up and left her kids because she was just so into sex? Seriously buddy, get a clue.
Don't look in my bedside table.!!! I am employed, with years in the same career, vlounteer in my community. Yet, you would condemn me?!?!
Why did his parents get the children and more importantly why is he getting the children when he gets out of prison he is a dangerous man. Rip Mellisa. Prayers for her family and friends and her poor children. It's just awful how little value is placed on someone's life. So very sad
Because his family had the money. It’s sick how twisted our legal system can be! He should NEVER set foot out of that prison.😢
Maybe because her parents were never mentioned?… she had zero support.
😂😂😂 @ “there were sex toys in there.. a lot of em…. and gels.” 🤣
Omg! The scandal! 😂😂
Notice how her sex life is exposed and all the sudden "She may have left on her own.." That's so wrong. That s*** burns me up
Wow blaming her for having a life... That's low..
Was this episode made in the 1950s? The victim blaming and pearl clutching from both the presenters and the police in the first case is hard to watch! Imagine a single dad starts going out and enjoying his single life. When they search his house they find a big stash of porn - would they even think any of that was worth mentioning?
Men having casual sex is encouraged, while murdered women get shamed for it.
Check Bang Bros. She could be "hiding" there
What does her having sex toys have to do with?! She’s a female who when she doesn’t have a partner, she pleases herself… these stories or ppl be doing too much
Morals lifestyle Longer list of suspects
@@lawrencehammersley4945 100% sure you never beat your meat, oh Moral Lawrence
@@lawrencehammersley4945 Masturbating has nothing to do with morality or why she died. Her sex toys should have been completely left out of this.
@@lawrencehammersley4945 morals? Bruh so if someone plays with u like let’s say u r married… he would be morally wrong for doing so? That’s crazy talk but okays
you all jumped the shark with that title. lost a lot of respect
If the kids were her first concern then why did she divorce the husband?
*The* question of the age.
He had a little tool. So she traded him in for a sex toy. LOL
Maybe they were unhappy together?
@jjkatz Unhappiness is always a legit reason to ruin one's children. How dare I.
Come on🤬🤬🤬🤬
This title is RIDICULOUS!!!!!
Her sex life had NOTHING to do with her murder🙄🙄🙄
Sex toys? Come on…..that’s nothing scandalous. The policeman acts as if he’s found something illegal. This is so wrong. This young woman was murdered because her ex-partner was a sociopath who no longer had control over her.
Stop the victim blaming😓
They brought it up because it was a possibility that someone she slept with was the murderer.
So having sex toys means you are wild? Lmao she is a single person !
did you watch the video?
For people moaning about these being repeats not all of us saw them first time around. I for one am grateful that they are being shown. Unfortunately with this first case it seems like no-one has been convicted though my money is on the butcher. In other cases that I watch I can look for updates and see how much time the perpetrators got etc.
Yes we all know these are about real people and real lives . No, I have not lost someone to murder and I am truly sorry to anyone who has and the crimes themselves are of course are horrendous .However I still don't think it's wrong or makes me a bad person when I say that I enjoy watching these programmes . I enjoy seeing perpetrators brought to justice and also trying to fathom out what may have happened myself. Also seeing the dynamics going on in court cases when I watch things about crime.
when you have to Wine down with a glass of wine.. you already have problems..
You can take the boy out of the barrio, but not the "barrio" out of the boy.
dang now this is evil.
Disgusting headline!!
Why Would You Seeing Sex Toys Make You Blink 🤷🏽♀️🙄 Like Come On Now Ugh I Can’t Take When People Act So Grand Dam Like Dude U Know U Needed Extra Help Before 🤞🏾
I attended the first Crimecon's Crowdsolve before I knew about how crooked the owners were. They focused on this case and Karen Bodine. I'm a forensic social worker and I have never seen such a coordinated effort to taint this case. They actually handed out statements from people who were not even listed as persons of interest or witnesses, completely unredacted.The Thurston County Sheriff's Department helped sponsor the event and cohosted it. I saw such disregard for investigative principles that I went out of my way to talk to the owner of Crimecon at the event and wrote leadership repeatedly. They didn't care. In addition, there was a confession and a full dig about 2 months before this event. Thurston county Sheriff then said he retracted his confession and claimed they needed a lot of time to look at new DNA tech. That was 2019. The police and Crimecon look in the eyes of Nancy's family, making all kinds of promises, as if the morons who attended Crowdsolve would solve this case. They don't screen who attends these events. There were 2 groups there that really concerned me: 1) rich housewives from California 2) people who probably want to do terrible things to women and get away with it. I literally watched the California wives take the information off these police statements and go camp out in front of their homes all night. After seeing that level of mishandling, I feel confident that the Thurston County Sheriff's Department cares far more about getting on TV than solving homicides. I live right down the street from Nancy. In 2017, a woman was decapitated and it didn't even make the news. Several children have survived attempted kidnapping. These idiot CZcams channels don't mention this, but this area has a lot of violence towards women because even though it's rural, it's also adjacent to one of the largest military bases in the world. I'm also a former military social worker specializing in SV and military service. I actually offered to help with this case and the Thurston County Sheriff declined. They hate us social workers. We're "too woke" Now, I have a cyberstalker. Rando in Texas that I've never interacted with. He's been stalking me for 2 years. The Thurston County Sheriff's Department refused to take a police report for an entire year. They gaslight me, talk over me, and literally refused to take a huge 3 ring binder of evidence I personally brought to their station. I know this is the revenge I get for speaking up about this and don't care. I'm a published scientist who was trained by Dr Hare to perform the psychopath test. I worked in 5 prisons. I could get far more done to help these families but no one in true crime wants my help. They can't stand real experts. oh, and Crimecon paid fake experts for their attempt to work this case at Crowdsolve. "Statement analysis" is not a scientific method. It was taught at this event by a guy with nothing beyond a bachelor's in English. The people who attend these events support a commodification of homicide and rape that makes solving these cases even less likely. Imagine what this does to the families. Giving them false hope on stage with hundreds of people in the audience? It's really sick. Also, there's no evidence she was a sex worker. The actual statements from character references suggested she was promiscuous. Men in Tenino are very quick to claim a woman is promiscuous for 2 reasons: she's a liberal or she doesn't want to sleep with you.
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I was going to save this for later, but these comments! 😭😂
Oh I'm trying. Shamefully a lot of mine get removed
Oh my god. Arrest everyone. Sexual fantasies. Definitely a crime. 😂😂😂. Your not allowed to do that. Nope. Frozen meat in her freezer..i.m done. I can't take this crap serious. Crime watch 😂
Was the cop running radar investigated? He was the last person to see her.
Why were sex toys a “lifestyle”…??? She wasn’t trans, bisexual or poly whatever…. This story really dropped the ball focusing on irrelevant finds.
Sure seems that sordid sex lives and murder go together like birds of a feather
If you're so convinced her sex life was healthy and normal why freak out that they mentioned it? These comments are stupid
So the father was proud of him for taking responsibility and sparing everybody a trial ! Id have be so unproud of my son and washed my hands of him for what he did to that poor girl !
I hate how much the Americans believe in that silly lie detector thing.
I mean, really?
The cops do.
She got them trailer park eyes
Awesome video
Ok, so I had speckle of dust on my computer screen that was right on Chris Hansen's ear lobe. For a hot minute, I thought Chris Hansen got himself an earring. I was about to be like "I see you Chris...I see you."
Amazing stories 😢
Hello, I always feel intrigued by your amazing crime investigation series. 😊
My dad was a Sheriff’s Deputy for the Harris County Sheriff’s Department until the Gorge Floyd incident.
Yes, that MAYOR has enormous “blood” on his hands. He intentionally set everything up to KILL, STEAL and DESTROY. 🙅🏻♀️
Let me guess he refused to let him breathe? 😮
@@kevinsworld.7086 NO! He’s over 50 and figured that it was the right time to retire given recent events.
Man: No I wouldn't narc on myself
Cops: He's guilty!!!!
A lone female without any males in the house AND with 2 young daughters would NOT lock the door to go for a walk?!?!?😳😳😳
WHO DOES THAT THESE DAYS?!!!
Damn her moms got some strong jeans😳
Why...they don't tear off?😢😢😢she needs to tell us where she buys them...😢😢😢
@@Liz-up2tithis is too funny 😂
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Chris hansen want my attention 🤣🤣🤣
This is so degrading to bring up her sex toys
I’ve lived in Houston for the last 20 years this case was absolutely horrible still hurts RIP Melissa 🥺
People complaining that it is victim blaming clearly get on their high horse for any ridiculous reason.
They hear from family and friends about what she was like as a person, especially since she was known to go out and “try things” she never done before (a reason she god divorced) but when they start investigating they come across items that very well could open the door to the truth. It’s not victim blaming not once did they say or imply that. It’s being honest with “what could have” happened. The one avenue of many. There also could have been other things that were found sex wise that have not been released so they may have more info than everyone claiming “victim blaming” does.
She could have met someone for some sexual activities and willingly left the house with them.
End of the day its exactly the same if they find out she has been having argument with a friend before her disappearance, they would investigate that as a possibility. The sex toys lead to a sexual life one she shared info with her sister so that is a route that needs to be investigated and ruled out.
Thank god the majority of y’all commenting aren’t investigators because nothing would get done.
Right! They're just talking themselves out of their own shame. It's all denial and projection. Society is being overtaken by sex crazed narcissists. These are the same people who say porn in harmless despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. People who lack self control get caught up in all sorts of deadly dealings.
So she just left her door unlocked with a half full glass of wine when she's supposed to meet with her ex to pick up her kids....to go have sex with some random dude. That's the important theory you think everyone needs to be made aware of her having sex toys for? Her fcking kids are going to watch this, even if that was a theory you don't put that on a news story about a victim, as well as the bloody title. Use your head please.
Why does her enjoying having sex have anything to do with her getting murdered? That just doesn’t sit right with me.. I feel like they are victim blaming a bit
how?
The way nerissa knight speaks absolutely rips my knitting, it’s absolutely infuriating 😂
WTF.... Is this how "Detectives" think! ..👀 Just because she has a Sex Toys this is some "red flag". .. WTH, well i know what this does Say, it says these detectives have a very boring sex life, if any at all.
That’s what I was thinking. They have missionary style once a year or so.
*I see Chris Hanson i click😁*
Wow 4 kids and wilding out...why bother having sex for not having fathers around?
because people today cant really sacrifice for their kids
It’s kinda weird they kept mentioning a bag of sex toys?? Ok??
WHY on earth do you keep mentioning her sex toys??!! Is that some kind of life threatening clue??
She definitely had low self esteem that’s for sure
Dark obsession has always tragic endings, always - #sjsrana
That John Jordan dude at 19:40 looks like he could be Ben Shapiro's brother or cousin 😂
Boy, doesn't it make you sick how our justice system just loves being lenient on murderers in this nation.
Juggling being a single parent with working full time during the week; while engaging in a sexually active single lifestyle over week ends, with her children being continuously moved between two homes... What a mess 🤦🏼♀️
When it comes to the reason for her demise: Could have been her unnatural sexual preferances, which made her an open target for perverts. This could also have been the reason why her marriage did not last?
Is this old Crap?
With the amount of true crime documentaries i had seen and i end up in one of these episode….I would be soooo disappointed
Sexual cravings simply get more and more devious and lead to od just like drugs.