Doll collecting is trendy rn. People who are trend collectors see things as investments and money making opportunities. A lot of collectors start out that way to justify their hobby to non collectors. Like why are you collecting dolls? Oh you make money? Oh then it’s more acceptable. The bratz makeup trend and Safiya Nygaard video contributed heavily to the Bratz inflation. Like beanie babies, people will realize it’s not worth the time and effort, and their dolls will end up sitting in their storage along with the beanie babies…. Only the true collectors will prevail.
i had an action figure collector that commented on one of my videos that it's weird that an adult would collect toys made for little girls. I replied that it's just as weird for him , an adult, to collect toys made for little boys.
Yeah thats probably why im really scared that when the barbie movie comes out the prices are gonna skyrocket especially since we're already seeing it with the pregnant midge doll already rising more and more in prices and the barbie movie dolls from 2001-2013 are already expensive and hard to cone by unless you have the money to go all out for those dolls. I do hope more people get introduced to the hobby from these videos but it's gonna be a lot harder for new collectors to get into the hobby without dumping hundreds on one doll. This recently happened with novi Stars a couple months ago the prices shot up because of Izzyzz video about it i know they ment no harm but i remember when dolltwt was dragging them through the dirt for that.
yeah, i like older Barbie from 70s-90s (clothing and style) but modern bodies...and I'll bet everyone at all the antique stores about me will shoot-up their prices soon.
truth, and despite the fact that the doll community has existed for a long time, some individuals are making it look like its just the latest trend that appeared overnight. It isn't really irritating.
Tbh i dont think these videos causing an upscale in pricing is the issue-since even when popular doll collectors make videos on obscure doll lines those said doll lines will upscale in pricing The issue is more of the misinformsntion-mina presented barbie’s history as the very sugercoated sweet adorable story mattel has presented when in reality mattel stole lily from a small german compsny and ruined the creator of lily’s life because of said theft-she even described lily as a “call girl” when that was a mistranslation
I was excited too, then I watched Minas video and saw some misinformation in it and was like. Aw, man. We’re definitely about to see a influx of interest thanks to Barbie movies. 😅
I've noticed there's a lot of new non doll collectors starting to get into it, but they're not getting into it for the right reasons. they're getting into it to mark up to resell. I'm collector who has collected dolls, action figures, & old toys since I was a teenager, & now I'm 57 years old & I collect for my collection only not for resell. I've restored & customized dolls in the past for my mom, my sister, my great niece & my niece, & they were done as gifts only. 💜
The only reason I am not looking forward to the Barbie movie you touched on in this video. New "collectors" are going to flood the market and drive up the second hand doll market.
I like the videos like kurtis conners and negative ledgends because i like to see outsiders thoughs on doll media and sometimes they genuinely are just funny.i hate the rising prices tho
Negative Legend is an outlier in this situation, even if they're not specifically a dolltuber, their brand is nostalgia content and is mostly focused on that sort of media, doll brands absolutely being included. It's in their channel brand, not so much Kurtis.
I haven’t even watched the video yet, but I wanna say that I am so tired of these non doll collectors and even these “doll influencers” which we don’t even need making dolls more popular like I miss when doll collecting was this weird obscure thing only certain people did. I miss when it was considered cringey or creepy. Like it only makes things worse for people who love and collect dolls as a hobby by making the prices go up and people realizing that toys, older toys especially sell for so much (which a lot of them really don’t, especially if the condition is terrible.) Like please go find something else, leave us and our dolls alone!!
The only doll influencers/content creators I will follow are those who you can tell really love it and don't do it for the trend. I love XCanadensis and Angel Loza because you can tell they ADORE their collections and it's priceless to them, and they genuinely care about creating a nice community for doll collectors and just want to talk about dolls.
@@meep2404 Yes I love them as well, I also love AThousandSplendedDolls, FishDress, Cigbunny2001, Rodney Rainboww, Jay Dolls UK, AZdoesmakeup. And even though a lot of them aren’t doll influencers. They love collecting dolls and showing their collections, caring for them, dressing them up, styling them. Like those are the people I want to see post doll content. Not people who are just in it for free PR packages, and subscribers. This isn’t the makeup community lmfao.
@@strawberryswirrl716 a lot of people still see this as weird, even some of these videos are making it seem like it's an unusual trendy fad, quite irritating
I only got into collecting 7 months ago, and already seeing prices jump like crazy. Dolls that didn't go for over 15 before Christmas they're asking 40usd now. More annoying to me is it's harder to search resale sites without really narrowing results - market flooded with human Barbie logo items or just Barbie pink/ Barbiecore stuff. Gone are the days when "vintage barbie " search could find anything from a Miss Seventeen to a Totally Hair for a reasonable price because people just don't know lol
I haven’t dared watch Mina’s video because I like her so much and I don’t want to be disappointed. Your mention of the head dates made me laugh because my poor other half has had to listen to me rant about incorrect eBay listings where people are calling them 1960s dolls so many times!
I did watch that video and sadly it is filled with misinformantion 😭 she called build lily a “call girl” when that was a mistranslation, she never even mentioned the fact that mattel stole lily from her creators and completly destroyed a small german company all because of said theft
This is something that happened to Tamagotchis recently as well. I collect virtual pets along with dolls and a few years ago you could get the later model tamagotchis for around 40-60 boxed. And now, these toys that were originally 15 dollars retail can cost up to 200-300 dollars lol Another bright side is that if enough people are interesting into the hobby that company’s may actually release gooooddd rereleases.
I have Tamagochi earrings at my shop in Vancouver, they really bring out the sentimental vibe in folks! 🥰 made by FANCYPOP! Also I display my dolls there too! I love the new fashion dolls! People from Mattel have randomly seen the displays which is fun. 😂
The only thing I was glad about her video was that she did not mention Rainbow High nor OMG’s so in that regard I am safe (kinda odd for a fashion doll based video tho). I also googled modern dolls because of the videi and not a single RH or OMG doll popped up so I guess to the general public they are unknown? Just odd because they feel VERY popular. Anyway I feel your pain, I originally wanted to start out collecting with Barbie movie dolls (in 2018) and that went south real quick 😅 I hope the vintage doll collectors can survive the storm 🙏🏻
Maybe because they're still being released widespread so they're still seen more as "toys". Even though both lines are FULL of references to full-size fashion, which would've fit perfectly into the video. I think it shows a lot of people right now value the nostalgia of it over the actual hobby of collecting dolls.
I was relived too bc it shows she doesn't really know anything about current doll fashion lines. MGA has been killing it with fashion reference clothing on their dolls these past few years. I am a huge RH fan so I'm glad she didn't mention them.
I started collecting the Barbie Movie dolls back in 2013, and you could get them for actually good prices then. Now heaven help me find a PATP Erika or Mermaidia Elina that won't break the bank 😭
I just watched Minas video. It kind of upset me. The way she worded stuff made it sound like people who collects only do it because its "trendy". No hate to her or anything, but she should maybe redo that video. And Negative Legend actaully is a doll collector! They are super cool :)
His review of it was bad but the nostalgia critic was about reviewing old nostalgic shows from the 80s/90s-it makes sense he’d review animes like sailor moon too
I was going to comment on this same thing. They collect dolls, they just don't make a lot of content about it. Their channel focuses more on series and movies.
agreed with this whole video, im actually a newer collector (started collecting in october of 2022). i havent had anyone in the community berate me for being a newer collector, but imo people who sit on piles of old dolls or hoard them in their garage solely for resell value or “investments” should be ostracized and deserve that response from genuine collectors. right now im only purchasing dolls that are playline or on shelves for that exact reason. those people make it so much more frustrating to enjoy the hobby and it’s unfortunately common within many collector communities, not just dolls. dolls are just trendy right now and its okay to have an interest in them because of trends but i would hate for people to just buy these dolls, forget about them in a month or two because theyre not trendy anymore, then go and sell them for triple the retail price. unfortunately thats possible and very well might happen in the next year or so.
While I agree with points about Mina Le or similar videos, where they are about the dolls themselves, I disagree on the small point you made about the videos that Alex Myers (and I guess Negative Legend) make. Those two channels are movie/television review channels so reviewing doll series makes sense for them (doesn’t mean they can’t be criticized for their takes and opinions, but on the topic of “staying in your category and audience,” I think it is ok for them to discuss those avenues).
Mina Lee makes sense too. She focuses a lot on societal changes, fashion and how one impacts the other. Talking about dolls may not be her main focus, but it is related to many of the subjects the likes to talk about.
Monster high g1 dolls have been absolute hell lately to buy due to Both g3 and because of none doll collectors reselling and scalpers so i absolutely feel this video 😭
Makes me kinda wish Mattel just brought back the old dolls like how Hasbro is doing with Basic Fun and LPS. I do love g3 but it would have been nice to see those prices drop online cause the dolls aren’t “retro” anymore. Now we get to buy the reproductions for double the original price because they’re treated as collectors items rather than a simple play line doll
I actually enjoyed that video 😂. I also love Mina Le. I do have a problem with such videos when they are antagonistic towards the hobby and spreading tired misinformation. Mina's video was in defense of fashion dolls and their importance in the fashion industry and society. I appreciate that angle. That topic seemed to be a natural fit for her because dolls do celebrate fashion. I know Modern Gurlz also does doll videos, I loved her Monster High fashion styling video. I love videos where people who aren't part of the hobby share their thoughts or review doll media. It can be lighthearted and fun as long as it's well-researched. I also like it when creators expose us to a diversity of interests and aren't strictly doll collectors. Maybe they love dolls but are also into video games etc. Negative Legend also collects dolls, it's just that their channel is focused on TV and movies. I'm a huge fan of video essays so watching content like that about dolls is fun for me. I think we need more than just doll reviews and room tours. There's a whole world is conversation out there to have. These videos can help to improve perceptions of the hobby if done right. There will always be opportunists. We can't blame content creators and journalists for scalpers doing what scalpers always do.
I've seen a number of big doll collectors talking about the responsibility they have as people with a big audience to speak mindfully. They know their words can and do influence the market for other collectors. These outside content creators don't understand the effect they're going to have and just makes me anxious for my shot at getting some of my grails.
In defense of Native Legend, their doll-related videos are actually really good! They more so focus on the media tied to doll lines rather than the dolls themselves, but they do a lot of research on the brands when creating videos. Can't say I can praise any of the other videos that react to doll-related series since sometimes they come off mockingly, but I know lots of people also do it because of nostalgia and genuine interest.
I was recommended the video you referred to, by the content creator who doesn't normally do doll videos. I must admit, I skipped past it, because my immediate thought was "not a serious doll collector". I prefer to watch people who have an understanding of their subject matter.
I’m in the exact group niche of loving trendy fashion content and doll content, so I really adore this stuff. But even so I get a bit of a knot in my stomach every time a video comes out from large creators on dolls cause I know the prices will skyrocket and secondhand shopping becomes difficult for collectors! 💕
Yes! I've been saying this for years! And what's really annoying is when you tell someone their 1966 stamped 90s or 2000s dolls are newer and they get mad. Then there's family members that don't agree with your collecting and say "Well if you were a true collector, you'd leave all the dolls in the original box, you're just a hoarder" Outsiders sadly always look at it as something to profit off of. While true collectors know all or most of the history behind each doll, the names and years they were produced because its something they truly enjoy and are genuinely passionate about and are interested in. True collectors don't just go out looking for some simple random CZcams video to teach them about the things they love. Talking to fellow collectors and reading books on such topics is a great way to get alot of accurate information. It's really sad how misunderstood this fun colorful hobby really is 😥
Do not forget that there are different types of collectors. Some are very into the history of the dolls, yes, but some collect them because they are in love with their looks and are not overly interested in knowing every little facts. There are different ways to enjoy an hobby, and different degrees of collectors. And yes, while it is preferable to find informations in books, most toys do not have books written about them, and videos are one of the most accessible ways to find informations about dolls.
I agree with the others, but what about Negative Legend? They ARE a collector. They have an understanding of what they're talking about. Their whole channel brand is nostalgia conent snd they've been covering tv shoes and media based around toy brand for a hot minute 💀
i've seen eBay listings recently that say that a Superstar-Head Ken they are selling is from 1968. no. No it's not. It has a body originally produced in 68, but the head wasn't produced until a decade later.
This same thing happened with gardening but I’d argue it might’ve been more extreme. During the pandemic more and more people got into hobbies and most of them only superficially (I think this now is also an effect of that wave) and for some absurd reason first time plant owners allowed influencers to convince them they needed rare exotic (often poached) plants (that they had no idea how to take care of). So people who didn’t know plants normally cost very little started dropping hundreds on designer plants because it was hot. And a huge number of resellers emerged who were selling half dead plants for a fortune. That bubble burst and obviously proved to be a horrible investment for resellers because they require a lot of space and constant care and knowledge. People genuinely interested in botany and who used gardening as a way to relax just watched in confusion. But the same main consequence was that prices on the smallest things shot up so ridiculously that trend chasers almost priced us out of a hobby.
I will say that at least Kurtis Conner's Bratz vs. Barbie videos aren't really about dolls at all, just the movies. He doesn't even really mention anything about dolls at all, he was just kinda reacting to the movies the way he reacts to other movies. Its still a little annoying though because he clearly doesn't have any knowledge on either franchise and just kinda makes fun of them
I don’t know if I find it annoying necessarily - but no video I have seen about dolls by any non doll collector has ever been as interesting as what my favorite doll loving CZcamsrs make. I did enjoy the doll themed runway collections Mina Le brought up in her video - they were very cool and on brand for her.
The second hand market has gotten crazy the movie is making it worse. Honestly all of CZcamsrs are making the market worst I started collecting in the early 90s with my mom. And you could get things so much cheaper, now I have to fight like crazy over items I want.
I agree with you about this. Monster High resellers already hike up the prices way too much as it is. Now that the Barbie movie is out lord knows how much they are going to increase.
I totally agree with you! It is about time someone pointed this out. You have a great way of expressing yourself, and you really get the point across! THANKS FOR HAVING COURAGE TO SPEAK UP!!!!!
literally didnt even watch mina's video because of this and usually i like her content but like 😭😭😭😭😭😭 i just knew there was gonna be misinfo and all that jazz
Her video is by far not as terrible as he make it seems. Sure, there are a few things she got wrong, but it doesn't take away from the pertinance of her video. I've cringed when she called the german doll a Call girl, but other than that it is fairly good.
"Hi Barbie!" I love collecting Barbies, but I get them secondhand on the cheap and recondition them. I also love making clothes and accessories for them!! Oh and btw, I 💗 your channel!!! Don't stop, please and thank you!!!!!!💗💗💗💐💐💐
Great dialogue as usual! I get a lot of interest in my Barbs as I display them publicly in my little fashion shop. They bring at lot of joy to people of all ages, though I know some will look at the dolls 7:10 sideways. And you know who looks right back at them with her best side eye! 😒🙄😂💗
i just remember watching this spanish barbie iceberg video a while ago and just getting upset because the person clearly didn't do his research and it had a lot of misinformation , also some youtubers that make those "weird" barbie dolls top ten that keep showing that freaking bootleg pregnant barbie, just i don't really trust non doll collectors to make videos about dolls if they are just going to talk about itt in just surface level
Negative Legend does kinda collect dolls but their videos on rainbow high suuuuuuckkkk. Every video is 20 mins of them going "this show sucks" and another 20 mins of them and their gf wandering around target. It's boring. Sorry to any NL fans.
I agree with everything you said! You were just brave enough to say it! 💕 it really is annoying though. Great video! Am on a binge of all your videos lol love your content and your collection.
i been collecting for years and a lot of people i know HATED them, now everyone is apparently a doll collector, this is not only bad for the adult community but for KIDDDS like the prices are going to be so high low-income families are going to resort to just giving kids ipads to play with.
I mean, most playline barbies are pretty cheap lol. I don't see parents buying pricy vintages dolls on internet for their kids. For low-income families, there will always be second hand dolls at goodwill. And if all fails, paper dolls can be printed.
Fascinating well detailed explanation on the annoying CZcamsrs content’s regarding Doll Collecting its really Nobody’s Business to make judgments about certain Hobbies people like especially those who don’t have the Knowledge to the history of Dolls
Okay so what about people like me who buy dolls to play with just like I would do if I was 10 years old and had my mum buying them for me? Technically I am collecting because I’m buying dolls but I’m not buying them with the intention to collect but with the intention to play and I have started making content related to unboxing the dolls, showing them off, making role playing videos etc
i didn't even know that this was a thing. It seems like a foolish waste of time and money. i was on a "rant fest" last year. One of the things that triggered me was a Canada Dry ad on Instagram.The ad was specifically marketed to doll and miniature collectors. It was a commercial of a hand putting together a shitty diorama, and doll collectors were in the comments praising it for "representing us". i was like, "NO! Leave us alone!" "This is NOT for you to pander to us!' i basically told Canada Dry to mind its soft drink business and fuck off. i've noticed an influx of doll channels last year, but most of them were annoying as hell. They definitely seemed like real doll collectors, but you can tell that the Barbie movie was their inspiration and that they just recently became interested in dolls (most likely being trendy). Honestly, i would not mind a little gate keeping. i think that is how communities are able to keep their authenticity. Yes, any and everyone may collect and play with dolls, but it is SUPER annoying to see someone infiltrating a space has been dear to me since childhood when they are clearly into it for a season.
Hello - For the frisson of collecting to exist there is the opposite end of certain comments that may be made, duality on a scale, but which stems from incomprehension - pure ignorance. The secondary market does thrive as the business side of the hobby. Beware scalpers. The torso mold stamped 66 was discontinued in 2009 with the introduction of the Basics line (you do not have a RARE VINTAGE doll). That is when the second major wave of collectors took off. We are in a class of our own and can but smile at those whose interests lie in other directions (which we in turn would take no pleasure in at all). Happy collecting!
i thought you were going to talk about how they sometimes spew misinformation and don't do their research, i especially feel like the girl's video (i can't remember her name sorry) was very much just a wikipedia reading that added nothing to any conversations, but instead you're literally just Whining. and negative legend is very much a collector or at Least a fellow fan who just annoys you because his videos are popular thus they make ur intrest less niche. the last straw would've been mentioning clawdeena9 or that one guy (i don't remember his name either but he wears pretty tshirts) who do doll related news, because since all you gotta do to be Bad is be Popular you may as well have included them. it's not fair to whine and whine about popular people speaking about dolls, it'd be impossible and irrelevant for them to mention a list of the recent fair prices for every single doll in a brand they happen to mention in a video. Doll collecting is an expensive hobby, you know this.
Besides its not even the non-doll collectors fault, i seen popular doll influencers say their scared to mention obscure doll lines since them just mentioning it can raise up the prices, this whole “oh everything will be better if non doll collectors stayed in their lane!!!” Is just wrong cause no the prices will still get high the non-doll collectors have nothing to do with this
@@shinypaintf588 exctaly like most doll influencers dont even mention the prices or talk about how so “hard to find” or so “rare” their doll is-yet someone some cartoon reviewer not establishing the doll’s prices even tho their not even talking about the dolls is the issue? Make it make sense
I saw that horrible excuse of a video and all I got from it was a headache she’s all over the place in it, she just wanted the views and it’s apparent from the other videos on her channel, I just picked up a medium storage tote full of Barbie and Ken for $20 and inside of that bin I found quite a few rare and valuable dolls from the 60’s 70’s and 80’s, there’s absolutely no reasoning with those people and so I tend to stay away from them and their items
sorry but this is so petty... I hate resellers and how expensive dolls are now, however there is no relation between that and the videos you mentioned, them talking about the topic is actually normalizing this hobby and showing ppl that its completely normal not making fun of it at all, especially mina, and curtis videos are so funny but not mean towards collectors or the dolls, don't see an issue here
Doll collecting is trendy rn. People who are trend collectors see things as investments and money making opportunities. A lot of collectors start out that way to justify their hobby to non collectors. Like why are you collecting dolls? Oh you make money? Oh then it’s more acceptable. The bratz makeup trend and Safiya Nygaard video contributed heavily to the Bratz inflation. Like beanie babies, people will realize it’s not worth the time and effort, and their dolls will end up sitting in their storage along with the beanie babies…. Only the true collectors will prevail.
🎉 very well said
i had an action figure collector that commented on one of my videos that it's weird that an adult would collect toys made for little girls. I replied that it's just as weird for him , an adult, to collect toys made for little boys.
Those people are the weirdest collectors. How are you gonna judge another collector?
@@DoIIyMama bingo. i think he's just got a problem with a male that collects "girl toys"...i thought we were past that kind of thinking.
Lmfao the audacity !!! 😂😂😂
Yeah thats probably why im really scared that when the barbie movie comes out the prices are gonna skyrocket especially since we're already seeing it with the pregnant midge doll already rising more and more in prices and the barbie movie dolls from 2001-2013 are already expensive and hard to cone by unless you have the money to go all out for those dolls. I do hope more people get introduced to the hobby from these videos but it's gonna be a lot harder for new collectors to get into the hobby without dumping hundreds on one doll. This recently happened with novi Stars a couple months ago the prices shot up because of Izzyzz video about it i know they ment no harm but i remember when dolltwt was dragging them through the dirt for that.
yeah, i like older Barbie from 70s-90s (clothing and style) but modern bodies...and I'll bet everyone at all the antique stores about me will shoot-up their prices soon.
There's actual doll people, and then there's people who just like to hop on to whatever the trend of the moment is.
truth, and despite the fact that the doll community has existed for a long time, some individuals are making it look like its just the latest trend that appeared overnight. It isn't really irritating.
Finally someone said it !!
Tbh i dont think these videos causing an upscale in pricing is the issue-since even when popular doll collectors make videos on obscure doll lines those said doll lines will upscale in pricing
The issue is more of the misinformsntion-mina presented barbie’s history as the very sugercoated sweet adorable story mattel has presented when in reality mattel stole lily from a small german compsny and ruined the creator of lily’s life because of said theft-she even described lily as a “call girl” when that was a mistranslation
I was excited too, then I watched Minas video and saw some misinformation in it and was like. Aw, man. We’re definitely about to see a influx of interest thanks to Barbie movies. 😅
it's the same thing with Scalpers. They don't buy dolls they want, they buy dolls to flip and make a $
I've noticed there's a lot of new non doll collectors starting to get into it, but they're not getting into it for the right reasons. they're getting into it to mark up to resell. I'm collector who has collected dolls, action figures, & old toys since I was a teenager, & now I'm 57 years old & I collect for my collection only not for resell. I've restored & customized dolls in the past for my mom, my sister, my great niece & my niece, & they were done as gifts only. 💜
The only reason I am not looking forward to the Barbie movie you touched on in this video. New "collectors" are going to flood the market and drive up the second hand doll market.
Unless the movie flops.
I like the videos like kurtis conners and negative ledgends because i like to see outsiders thoughs on doll media and sometimes they genuinely are just funny.i hate the rising prices tho
Negative legend collects though! And I love Kurtis, but some of the things he says are incorrect.
Negative Legend is an outlier in this situation, even if they're not specifically a dolltuber, their brand is nostalgia content and is mostly focused on that sort of media, doll brands absolutely being included. It's in their channel brand, not so much Kurtis.
@@2doot plus they even buy the dolls ! So they have some expirence with being a collector
@@Man-wolf- exactly!
I haven’t even watched the video yet, but I wanna say that I am so tired of these non doll collectors and even these “doll influencers” which we don’t even need making dolls more popular like I miss when doll collecting was this weird obscure thing only certain people did. I miss when it was considered cringey or creepy. Like it only makes things worse for people who love and collect dolls as a hobby by making the prices go up and people realizing that toys, older toys especially sell for so much (which a lot of them really don’t, especially if the condition is terrible.) Like please go find something else, leave us and our dolls alone!!
The only doll influencers/content creators I will follow are those who you can tell really love it and don't do it for the trend. I love XCanadensis and Angel Loza because you can tell they ADORE their collections and it's priceless to them, and they genuinely care about creating a nice community for doll collectors and just want to talk about dolls.
@@meep2404 Yes I love them as well, I also love AThousandSplendedDolls, FishDress, Cigbunny2001, Rodney Rainboww, Jay Dolls UK, AZdoesmakeup. And even though a lot of them aren’t doll influencers. They love collecting dolls and showing their collections, caring for them, dressing them up, styling them. Like those are the people I want to see post doll content. Not people who are just in it for free PR packages, and subscribers. This isn’t the makeup community lmfao.
@@strawberryswirrl716 a lot of people still see this as weird, even some of these videos are making it seem like it's an unusual trendy fad, quite irritating
I only got into collecting 7 months ago, and already seeing prices jump like crazy. Dolls that didn't go for over 15 before Christmas they're asking 40usd now. More annoying to me is it's harder to search resale sites without really narrowing results - market flooded with human Barbie logo items or just Barbie pink/ Barbiecore stuff. Gone are the days when "vintage barbie " search could find anything from a Miss Seventeen to a Totally Hair for a reasonable price because people just don't know lol
I haven’t dared watch Mina’s video because I like her so much and I don’t want to be disappointed. Your mention of the head dates made me laugh because my poor other half has had to listen to me rant about incorrect eBay listings where people are calling them 1960s dolls so many times!
I did watch that video and sadly it is filled with misinformantion 😭 she called build lily a “call girl” when that was a mistranslation, she never even mentioned the fact that mattel stole lily from her creators and completly destroyed a small german company all because of said theft
Same😭😭😭 I love her too much
This is something that happened to Tamagotchis recently as well. I collect virtual pets along with dolls and a few years ago you could get the later model tamagotchis for around 40-60 boxed. And now, these toys that were originally 15 dollars retail can cost up to 200-300 dollars lol Another bright side is that if enough people are interesting into the hobby that company’s may actually release gooooddd rereleases.
Omg I collect tamagotchis & dolls too!
I feel slightly guilty cause I recently saw a video about tamagotchis and felt inspired to buy the new repros 😭
@@Foxtail529withluck Get a connection if you can find a good price! They have more game play :)
I have Tamagochi earrings at my shop in Vancouver, they really bring out the sentimental vibe in folks! 🥰 made by FANCYPOP! Also I display my dolls there too! I love the new fashion dolls! People from Mattel have randomly seen the displays which is fun. 😂
The only thing I was glad about her video was that she did not mention Rainbow High nor OMG’s so in that regard I am safe (kinda odd for a fashion doll based video tho). I also googled modern dolls because of the videi and not a single RH or OMG doll popped up so I guess to the general public they are unknown? Just odd because they feel VERY popular.
Anyway I feel your pain, I originally wanted to start out collecting with Barbie movie dolls (in 2018) and that went south real quick 😅 I hope the vintage doll collectors can survive the storm 🙏🏻
YES!!
Maybe because they're still being released widespread so they're still seen more as "toys". Even though both lines are FULL of references to full-size fashion, which would've fit perfectly into the video. I think it shows a lot of people right now value the nostalgia of it over the actual hobby of collecting dolls.
I was relived too bc it shows she doesn't really know anything about current doll fashion lines. MGA has been killing it with fashion reference clothing on their dolls these past few years. I am a huge RH fan so I'm glad she didn't mention them.
I started collecting the Barbie Movie dolls back in 2013, and you could get them for actually good prices then. Now heaven help me find a PATP Erika or Mermaidia Elina that won't break the bank 😭
I just watched Minas video. It kind of upset me. The way she worded stuff made it sound like people who collects only do it because its "trendy". No hate to her or anything, but she should maybe redo that video.
And Negative Legend actaully is a doll collector! They are super cool :)
I had the same feeling when Nostalgia Critic reviewed Sailor Moon. And might I say, as a magical girl stan... its hella cringe.
His review of it was bad but the nostalgia critic was about reviewing old nostalgic shows from the 80s/90s-it makes sense he’d review animes like sailor moon too
In negative legend's defense, they do actually buy dolls and/or toys of the topic they're covering to get all the accurate information possible
I was going to comment on this same thing. They collect dolls, they just don't make a lot of content about it. Their channel focuses more on series and movies.
@@VenusTemple yes I just had to defend them
agreed with this whole video, im actually a newer collector (started collecting in october of 2022). i havent had anyone in the community berate me for being a newer collector, but imo people who sit on piles of old dolls or hoard them in their garage solely for resell value or “investments” should be ostracized and deserve that response from genuine collectors. right now im only purchasing dolls that are playline or on shelves for that exact reason. those people make it so much more frustrating to enjoy the hobby and it’s unfortunately common within many collector communities, not just dolls. dolls are just trendy right now and its okay to have an interest in them because of trends but i would hate for people to just buy these dolls, forget about them in a month or two because theyre not trendy anymore, then go and sell them for triple the retail price. unfortunately thats possible and very well might happen in the next year or so.
While I agree with points about Mina Le or similar videos, where they are about the dolls themselves, I disagree on the small point you made about the videos that Alex Myers (and I guess Negative Legend) make. Those two channels are movie/television review channels so reviewing doll series makes sense for them (doesn’t mean they can’t be criticized for their takes and opinions, but on the topic of “staying in your category and audience,” I think it is ok for them to discuss those avenues).
Mina Lee makes sense too. She focuses a lot on societal changes, fashion and how one impacts the other. Talking about dolls may not be her main focus, but it is related to many of the subjects the likes to talk about.
Monster high g1 dolls have been absolute hell lately to buy due to Both g3 and because of none doll collectors reselling and scalpers so i absolutely feel this video 😭
Makes me kinda wish Mattel just brought back the old dolls like how Hasbro is doing with Basic Fun and LPS. I do love g3 but it would have been nice to see those prices drop online cause the dolls aren’t “retro” anymore. Now we get to buy the reproductions for double the original price because they’re treated as collectors items rather than a simple play line doll
2023 Doll CZcams feels like 2016 makeup CZcams
2023 doll youtube will crumble just like the beauty community did we just have to wait.
man did i choose a bad year to become a doll collector these prices are insane
that’s why i’m never gonna collect dolls, i guess i’ll just stare at them
I actually enjoyed that video 😂. I also love Mina Le. I do have a problem with such videos when they are antagonistic towards the hobby and spreading tired misinformation.
Mina's video was in defense of fashion dolls and their importance in the fashion industry and society. I appreciate that angle. That topic seemed to be a natural fit for her because dolls do celebrate fashion. I know Modern Gurlz also does doll videos, I loved her Monster High fashion styling video.
I love videos where people who aren't part of the hobby share their thoughts or review doll media. It can be lighthearted and fun as long as it's well-researched. I also like it when creators expose us to a diversity of interests and aren't strictly doll collectors. Maybe they love dolls but are also into video games etc. Negative Legend also collects dolls, it's just that their channel is focused on TV and movies.
I'm a huge fan of video essays so watching content like that about dolls is fun for me. I think we need more than just doll reviews and room tours. There's a whole world is conversation out there to have. These videos can help to improve perceptions of the hobby if done right.
There will always be opportunists. We can't blame content creators and journalists for scalpers doing what scalpers always do.
louder omfg, well said.
oh but when they all get bored and decide to offload their impulse-buy collections its gonna be glorious.... five more years until then 😫
Exactly
Can’t wait for that day
I'm waiting for the rainbow high to be easier to get second handed for customisation lol
I've seen a number of big doll collectors talking about the responsibility they have as people with a big audience to speak mindfully. They know their words can and do influence the market for other collectors. These outside content creators don't understand the effect they're going to have and just makes me anxious for my shot at getting some of my grails.
In defense of Native Legend, their doll-related videos are actually really good! They more so focus on the media tied to doll lines rather than the dolls themselves, but they do a lot of research on the brands when creating videos. Can't say I can praise any of the other videos that react to doll-related series since sometimes they come off mockingly, but I know lots of people also do it because of nostalgia and genuine interest.
I agree! Negative Legend seems to really care about the dolls and is a fellow nerdy collector
I was recommended the video you referred to, by the content creator who doesn't normally do doll videos. I must admit, I skipped past it, because my immediate thought was "not a serious doll collector". I prefer to watch people who have an understanding of their subject matter.
I’m in the exact group niche of loving trendy fashion content and doll content, so I really adore this stuff. But even so I get a bit of a knot in my stomach every time a video comes out from large creators on dolls cause I know the prices will skyrocket and secondhand shopping becomes difficult for collectors! 💕
Yes! I've been saying this for years! And what's really annoying is when you tell someone their 1966 stamped 90s or 2000s dolls are newer and they get mad. Then there's family members that don't agree with your collecting and say "Well if you were a true collector, you'd leave all the dolls in the original box, you're just a hoarder"
Outsiders sadly always look at it as something to profit off of. While true collectors know all or most of the history behind each doll, the names and years they were produced because its something they truly enjoy and are genuinely passionate about and are interested in. True collectors don't just go out looking for some simple random CZcams video to teach them about the things they love. Talking to fellow collectors and reading books on such topics is a great way to get alot of accurate information. It's really sad how misunderstood this fun colorful hobby really is 😥
Do not forget that there are different types of collectors. Some are very into the history of the dolls, yes, but some collect them because they are in love with their looks and are not overly interested in knowing every little facts. There are different ways to enjoy an hobby, and different degrees of collectors. And yes, while it is preferable to find informations in books, most toys do not have books written about them, and videos are one of the most accessible ways to find informations about dolls.
as a doll collector i hate it here. thats all.
I agree with the others, but what about Negative Legend? They ARE a collector. They have an understanding of what they're talking about. Their whole channel brand is nostalgia conent snd they've been covering tv shoes and media based around toy brand for a hot minute 💀
i've seen eBay listings recently that say that a Superstar-Head Ken they are selling is from 1968. no. No it's not. It has a body originally produced in 68, but the head wasn't produced until a decade later.
This same thing happened with gardening but I’d argue it might’ve been more extreme. During the pandemic more and more people got into hobbies and most of them only superficially (I think this now is also an effect of that wave) and for some absurd reason first time plant owners allowed influencers to convince them they needed rare exotic (often poached) plants (that they had no idea how to take care of). So people who didn’t know plants normally cost very little started dropping hundreds on designer plants because it was hot. And a huge number of resellers emerged who were selling half dead plants for a fortune. That bubble burst and obviously proved to be a horrible investment for resellers because they require a lot of space and constant care and knowledge. People genuinely interested in botany and who used gardening as a way to relax just watched in confusion. But the same main consequence was that prices on the smallest things shot up so ridiculously that trend chasers almost priced us out of a hobby.
I will say that at least Kurtis Conner's Bratz vs. Barbie videos aren't really about dolls at all, just the movies. He doesn't even really mention anything about dolls at all, he was just kinda reacting to the movies the way he reacts to other movies. Its still a little annoying though because he clearly doesn't have any knowledge on either franchise and just kinda makes fun of them
I don’t know if I find it annoying necessarily - but no video I have seen about dolls by any non doll collector has ever been as interesting as what my favorite doll loving CZcamsrs make. I did enjoy the doll themed runway collections Mina Le brought up in her video - they were very cool and on brand for her.
The second hand market has gotten crazy the movie is making it worse. Honestly all of CZcamsrs are making the market worst I started collecting in the early 90s with my mom. And you could get things so much cheaper, now I have to fight like crazy over items I want.
I literally had the same experience after seeing her thumbnail.
Yes! Capitalizing on it and making my wallet hurt.
2 things
1. I 1000% agree with you
2. No way you are 35 I swear you look 23 or younger 😍😍
Same!
Thank you two 💖💖💖☺️☺️☺️
I agree with you about this. Monster High resellers already hike up the prices way too much as it is. Now that the Barbie movie is out lord knows how much they are going to increase.
The way I laughed when I saw this thumbnail 😂
I totally agree with you! It is about time someone pointed this out. You have a great way of expressing yourself, and you really get the point across! THANKS FOR HAVING COURAGE TO SPEAK UP!!!!!
I just found you by random and I am a doll collector! It’s my passion. I just subscribed!
What lights did you use on the shelves? Looks great
OH my god, THIS THIS THIS! Thank you for making this video. I couldn't agree more.
I was wondering what the heck was up with all the whatnot stuff lately...lol 😂 how sad!
literally didnt even watch mina's video because of this and usually i like her content but like 😭😭😭😭😭😭 i just knew there was gonna be misinfo and all that jazz
Her video is by far not as terrible as he make it seems. Sure, there are a few things she got wrong, but it doesn't take away from the pertinance of her video. I've cringed when she called the german doll a Call girl, but other than that it is fairly good.
I was literally just thinking this 😭
"Hi Barbie!" I love collecting Barbies, but I get them secondhand on the cheap and recondition them. I also love making clothes and accessories for them!! Oh and btw, I 💗 your channel!!! Don't stop, please and thank you!!!!!!💗💗💗💐💐💐
LOL!!!! I was just watching her video yesterday!!!! I thought the same thing… it was a little annoying. Lol still love her though.
She said dolls were scary and or creepy. Eye rolls. She's just cashing in on the coolest thing and the barbie movie.
Great dialogue as usual! I get a lot of interest in my Barbs as I display them publicly in my little fashion shop. They bring at lot of joy to people of all ages, though I know some will look at the dolls 7:10 sideways. And you know who looks right back at them with her best side eye! 😒🙄😂💗
i just remember watching this spanish barbie iceberg video a while ago and just getting upset because the person clearly didn't do his research and it had a lot of misinformation , also some youtubers that make those "weird" barbie dolls top ten that keep showing that freaking bootleg pregnant barbie, just i don't really trust non doll collectors to make videos about dolls if they are just going to talk about itt in just surface level
Negative Legend does kinda collect dolls but their videos on rainbow high suuuuuuckkkk. Every video is 20 mins of them going "this show sucks" and another 20 mins of them and their gf wandering around target. It's boring. Sorry to any NL fans.
I agree with everything you said! You were just brave enough to say it! 💕 it really is annoying though. Great video! Am on a binge of all your videos lol love your content and your collection.
i been collecting for years and a lot of people i know HATED them, now everyone is apparently a doll collector, this is not only bad for the adult community but for KIDDDS like the prices are going to be so high low-income families are going to resort to just giving kids ipads to play with.
if they can ipads tho, even those are expensive, plush toys may be the last resort
I mean, most playline barbies are pretty cheap lol. I don't see parents buying pricy vintages dolls on internet for their kids. For low-income families, there will always be second hand dolls at goodwill. And if all fails, paper dolls can be printed.
🤗😍❤️🎈💛🧡🔥🦌🎈 I love all my Barbie dolls and my other dolls in my collection
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Fascinating well detailed explanation on the annoying CZcamsrs content’s regarding Doll Collecting its really Nobody’s Business to make judgments about certain Hobbies people like especially those who don’t have the Knowledge to the history of Dolls
Thank you for thissss
Okay so what about people like me who buy dolls to play with just like I would do if I was 10 years old and had my mum buying them for me? Technically I am collecting because I’m buying dolls but I’m not buying them with the intention to collect but with the intention to play and I have started making content related to unboxing the dolls, showing them off, making role playing videos etc
I started to watch her video got somewhat in and stopped watching: 😂so agree!!
valid points!
Omg totally agreed
i didn't even know that this was a thing. It seems like a foolish waste of time and money.
i was on a "rant fest" last year.
One of the things that triggered me was a Canada Dry ad on Instagram.The ad was specifically marketed to doll and miniature collectors. It was a commercial of a hand putting together a shitty diorama, and doll collectors were in the comments praising it for "representing us".
i was like, "NO! Leave us alone!" "This is NOT for you to pander to us!'
i basically told Canada Dry to mind its soft drink business and fuck off.
i've noticed an influx of doll channels last year, but most of them were annoying as hell.
They definitely seemed like real doll collectors, but you can tell that the Barbie movie was their inspiration and that they just recently became interested in dolls (most likely being trendy).
Honestly, i would not mind a little gate keeping.
i think that is how communities are able to keep their authenticity.
Yes, any and everyone may collect and play with dolls, but it is SUPER annoying to see someone infiltrating a space has been dear to me since childhood when they are clearly into it for a season.
💯 agreed. ☺️
Hello - For the frisson of collecting to exist there is the opposite end of certain comments that may be made, duality on a scale, but which stems from incomprehension - pure ignorance. The secondary market does thrive as the business side of the hobby. Beware scalpers. The torso mold stamped 66 was discontinued in 2009 with the introduction of the Basics line (you do not have a RARE VINTAGE doll). That is when the second major wave of collectors took off. We are in a class of our own and can but smile at those whose interests lie in other directions (which we in turn would take no pleasure in at all). Happy collecting!
I love that earring!!!
True!!!!!
The misinformation is my main problem. Otherwise, I'm indifferent to most of that content, they rarely offer new, correct info.
These people either getting more poor or… they just want to do it lol. Everyone now is desperate to have money. Get a job
Thanks for your video i feel and think like you ...
FINALLY! as funny as the kurtis vids were so much of his commentary was (yes funny, but) uninformed
In the words of Valentina... Imma not gonna say nothing... 🙄🤔🙄🤔🙄🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Also love ur display 😍😍
i thought you were going to talk about how they sometimes spew misinformation and don't do their research, i especially feel like the girl's video (i can't remember her name sorry) was very much just a wikipedia reading that added nothing to any conversations, but instead you're literally just Whining.
and negative legend is very much a collector or at Least a fellow fan who just annoys you because his videos are popular thus they make ur intrest less niche.
the last straw would've been mentioning clawdeena9 or that one guy (i don't remember his name either but he wears pretty tshirts) who do doll related news, because since all you gotta do to be Bad is be Popular you may as well have included them.
it's not fair to whine and whine about popular people speaking about dolls, it'd be impossible and irrelevant for them to mention a list of the recent fair prices for every single doll in a brand they happen to mention in a video. Doll collecting is an expensive hobby, you know this.
Besides its not even the non-doll collectors fault, i seen popular doll influencers say their scared to mention obscure doll lines since them just mentioning it can raise up the prices, this whole “oh everything will be better if non doll collectors stayed in their lane!!!” Is just wrong cause no the prices will still get high the non-doll collectors have nothing to do with this
@@Man-wolf- exactly, it's a volatile market
@@shinypaintf588 exctaly like most doll influencers dont even mention the prices or talk about how so “hard to find” or so “rare” their doll is-yet someone some cartoon reviewer not establishing the doll’s prices even tho their not even talking about the dolls is the issue? Make it make sense
I gave up ill never get my old toys back
I need you to do a vid on the barbie 2016 fiasco pls watch the tiny shoulders and do a background check on the witch kim culmone
love mina and kurtis but yeah it’s getting annoying
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Say it louder!!!!!
honestly someone had to say it. glad that you did
I saw that horrible excuse of a video and all I got from it was a headache she’s all over the place in it, she just wanted the views and it’s apparent from the other videos on her channel, I just picked up a medium storage tote full of Barbie and Ken for $20 and inside of that bin I found quite a few rare and valuable dolls from the 60’s 70’s and 80’s, there’s absolutely no reasoning with those people and so I tend to stay away from them and their items
sorry but this is so petty... I hate resellers and how expensive dolls are now, however there is no relation between that and the videos you mentioned, them talking about the topic is actually normalizing this hobby and showing ppl that its completely normal not making fun of it at all, especially mina, and curtis videos are so funny but not mean towards collectors or the dolls, don't see an issue here
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Your exact words are mentioned in the Video 😅
Never been that serious