Peachtree Audio Gan 1 Review
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- Review and experience of the Peachtree Audio GaN 1 amplifier
0:00 Intro
1:00 Lightbulbs?
1:48 Science Class
5:57 set up and first impressions
7:19 Problem / Solution
8:21 Wiim Mini compatibility
9:16 Listening impressions
10:48 Cost
11:29 More listening impressions
12:26 Trigger function
12:50 DDC compatibility
13:22 Klipsch Cornwall 4
14:29 VS Hegel + Venus 2
15:24 Office impressions
16:41 Pros & Cons
19:44 Conclusion
20:51 credits and outtakes
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I have the gan 1 and love it. Great sound and great value.
Yes sir! Thanks for watching 👍
Digital only GaN wow, this the most interesting audio device in a long long time! 🙌
Thanks for watching! 🍻
Great review! Sounds like a really simple and affordable way to get serious sound value.
Thanks! That’s pretty much how I feel. 🍻
V. nice review/presentation. You replied many of my questions. Really appreciated. Nice intervention from King Godzilla too. Thank you both.
Thanks Lazaros 🍻
Excellent review. Thanks!
I have the Peachtree Nova 150 and sounds great with my LS50 Metas. Excited to try Peachtree’s GanFET amplifiers.
Thanks for watching. I have the GaN1 paired with LS50 Meta’s and KC62 sub. Great combo!🍺
Great review!
Thank you! 🍻
Hey man, great review. More importantly though, you turned me on to the Gizz. How did I miss these guys? Amazing.
Thanks Jerry! Yea, they're an awesome band!🍻
Thx for the great review
Thanks for watching! 🍻
Orchard Audio and I have a shit ton of GaN Amps in stock ! Excellent review as always Jord.
Happy New Year my friend,
Thanks Joe, Happy New Year! 🍻
Joey are you a distributor for them?
@@MisterChibs Happy New Year Jord. Miss the flame thrower into though. 😂
@@joeygsaudiochannel3972 Ummm it's @ 0:37
Someone's skipping!! 😂 Happy New Year Joe.🍻
The GaN-1 is a true digital amplifier that accepts only digital signals. I used the Minidsp SHD Studio to pair with the GaN-1. The lossless DSP volume control(no bit truncation) of the MiniDSP makes it a perfect match with the GaN-1 and the result is phenomenal.
Thanks for sharing! I've got a Lumin U2 Mini that has lossless volume control too. Will be interesting to test it out with the GAN-1. 🍻
GanFet is fkn awesome. There are a few brands using it ..but rare still. Orchard Audio sells kits for DIY amp chassis.
This one .. can be DAC/ preamp direct.. whish is great.. but doesn't fit in older systems with a classic preamp. etc.
Im all in .. Great to get this out there!
Agreed! It's an awesome technology.🍻
Really appreciate your video. I just need to make sure I can hook up my TV and it sounds like I might be able to do that through the blue sound
Thanks! The Node has HDMI Arc so you’re covered. This is how I currently use my GAN1. Make sure you plug the trigger out cable from the node into the Gan 1 and your tv sound becomes seamless with whichever remote you use. 🍻
Big props for your (production) quality. Very pleasant to watch!
Question: I did hear some say the gan fet tech might bring potential for a tube sound in a solid state. It seems like this isn’t the case with the GAN1.
> Is that correct and do you know of any other amps that are able to do this besides the Vincent SV237mk(2) or Kinki Audio CHoco?
Thanks for watching! No, the GaN1 does not sound like a tube amp. I don’t know of any Gan amps that output tube like sound but I’m guessing it could be possible? Having said that, I wouldn’t hold your breath. If you want warm tubey sound, best off getting tubes. Ideally it would be great having both tube and solid state if budget permits. Failing that, the GaN1 is a good start.🍻
I’m running the GaN1 with the Node combo, but I upgraded to the Teddy Pardo lps for the node and also use a ifi spdif purifier2 on the coax. The GaN1 is a revelation and my Triangles have never sounded better. Replaced a Rega Elex R and NAD C658 with the GaN1/Node. Only complaint is the lossy digital volume on the Node. Will look to upgrade that in the future. Eyeing the Lumin U2 mini or the new ifi Neo Stream, potentially. Any recommendations?
Check out the Pros and cons of this video, more specifically the bit on versatility you'll see the Lumin U2 Mini Easter egg I dropped. Still testing it out right now but the Lumin does boast lossless volume control. I haven't checked out ifi's offerings so can't comment on that. Hope this helps. 🍻
I’d be interested to hear your impressions on the U2 mini vs the node. Especially at lower volumes. It would be hard to drop BluOS for another streamer ui, but performance is king. I wish there were more streaming transports on the market (that handle volume like Lumin), but I understand the general consumer wanting something more plug n’ play. Sucks to have to pay for the DAC portion of a unit, just to bypass it.
@@chrisfluke459 That's definitely going to happen (eventually.) I bought the Lumin with this in mind so stay tuned! 🍻
@@MisterChibs that’s great news! I look forward to the verdict 🤙🏼
Very interesting! Glad you tested the amp with the Klipsch Speakers! I‘m thinking about getting a pair of Forte IV or Sourcepoint 10s. I‘m still undecided. The amp/streamer combo really could work. What do you mean by saying that HDMI doesn‘t work with some TVs? As an alternative, I thought about a Leak Stereo 230 and an Ifi Zen Streamer.
The Node isn't compatible with my Samsung TV's (Q8fn) HDMI. It does work with my newer LG Tv's so YMMV. The Samsung TV has an optical port so I just use this instead. Works great and sounds amazing. Hope that helps!🍻
Thank for sharing your research and thoughts. What would be an affordable way to get the Peachtree to work with a streamer which does not support volume control on its digital outputs?
The streamer needs to support volume control. Most reasonable option is the Bluesound Node. There are cheaper streamers like the Wiim mini but Peachtree doesn’t recommend them because of they way they handle volume. Thanks for watching!🍻
I have the Gan400 and I am very pleased with the sound. It drives my Magnepans . I have LRS+, 1.7, mcmg, and 3.6s. As well as totem model 1 signature. The amplifier will drive anything that I can throw at it.
Thanks for sharing your experience David. Maggies are notoriously hard to drive so that's good to hear! 🍻
How does it sounds at low levels with 3.6
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It sounds great, I have the Schitt Freya + with RCA BT tubes and the match is very good.
Hi! When using your DDC with the node usb out and GaN1 we’re you using the BluOs app to control volume?
Yes, volume doesn’t have to be fixed with USB out while using the SU6.
Just received GaN1 and my first impression is great! I think NAD M33 may need an upgrade. This sounds better than Michi X3.
Enjoyed watching your review.
I also find roon difficult operating. I own Antipodes K50, Vault2i, MiniDSP SHD studio, Aurender N20.
I have trouble setting it up with roon cores, simply they didn’t work after new roon updates. 😢 need to figure out.
I found somewhat bright and harsh in highs with GaN1.
Gonna find out if streamer makes difference.
I tested GaN1 with Devore O/96, Mon Acoustic PlatiMon VC One, and B&W805 D3. All sounded amazing with GaN1. Very impressive for the price! 🎉🎉🎉
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts! 🍻
Nice one squirrel. intriguing
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So I’m shopping this and the Hegel h190 based on this review my take away is you preferred the Peachtree GaN1?
Check out the "VS Hegel H190" part @14:30. I don't think you can go wrong either way as long as it fits your needs. They're both great amps! Try and demo first. I took an H190 home before I bought mine. I know Peachtree offers a 30 day money back guarantee. Let me know what you end up with! 🍻
So I have the GAN1 and love it, I use Lii Audio 15” open baffle speakers and I am considering moving to a warmer sounding speaker for better synergy. Right now crushing on the Buchardt S400 M2 and still may add a sub. I am interested in how the DDC makes it sound better, any chance of doing an a/b comparison with and without the DDC? Thanks for the fun review and the new music recommendations. I subscribed after watching this video!
Thanks Jesse! I'm eventually going to do a video on DDC's. More specifically the Singxer SU6. When I AB'd, I found It improved on SQ quite a bit. Unfortunately I cant use the SU6 with Roon until Bluesound fixes a bug with USB out. Hopefully they do this soon but I'm not holding my breath.
@@MisterChibs Did you try that Ifi SPDIF iPurifier 2? I just saw it did something similar to other DDC’s and looks like it would fit in line with the blue sound nodes SPDIF connection to the Gan 1
@@mrmessyjesse I have not but wouldn't be opposed to checking one out. Sort of made my bed with the Singxer SU6. It's job is expensive paperweight until Bluesound fixes that issue. 😂
@@mrmessyjesse I've got the ipurifier 2 and gan 1. It made a big improvement in my system. Easily worth its price.
@@MisterChibs Just as a system update I switched out to the warmer sounding S400 M2 SE Fauna’s and the warmer speaker is amazing with the GAN1. Still looking to add a DDC at some point but I am looking forward to your review/A B comparison because I don’t understand how it works to improve the sound since there is no analog conversion to create jitter in my current set up.
I wonder if my PI2AES streamer, which I run with Volumio, can work with Peachtree Audio Gan. I don't know how I could handle the volume...
Ideally you want to use something that handles volume properly. I can personally recommend Bluesound node or Lumin U2 Mini.
I ordered a Gan 1 and will be pairing it with an Eversolo DMP-6A streamer. Should be interesting.
Congrats, let me know what you think. 🍻
Can you explain in greater detail how the DDC affects the sound of the Gan 1. Does it affect dynamics or dialogue intelligibility?
Covered in my SU-6 review. I normally use that DDC in my main setup but everything I said applies with the Gan-1 in the chain. Thanks for watching! 🍻
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How did you control the volume with the DDC? When I tried one, the node would only allow fixed volume.
I controlled it through whichever interface I was using with the node. Iphone / computer / ipad. Which DDC you have? The Singxer SU6 allows variable volume control through the node. 🍻
@@MisterChibs gustard u18. Maybe bluesound updated the usb output since I tried it. I'm going to have to try a DDC again if that's the case.
@@Pete.across.the.street let me know. Would be interested to know if U18 works or not.
@@MisterChibs will do. Right now I'm using the ifi spdif ipurifier 2, it makes a pretty big improvement and is much cheaper.
I usually use an ultraRendu with the Singxer SU-6 but just changed to the new Holo Audio Red (streamer with zero jitter out direct to the GaN1). Control via Roon including volume. Hope you try it. More clarity than the Holo Audio May KTE plus Serene going to a Pass X250.8. Way cheaper (similar cost to the cables alone on the other system), runs cool and way less power consumption.
Very cool! It's going to be interesting to see how my Lumin U2 mini does.🍻
Great review. Im surprised your den isnt ideal it looks spacious enough to give good sound. Also do I spy lumin?
Nice catch Neil! 👍 As for my den, it's completely open on one side. Speakers seem to work well in there despite of that.🍻
@@MisterChibs looking forward to your impressions on the Lumin. I sold my streamer since my new DACs streamer sounds better. Some new stuff in my system to try out on top of the DAC. Also great recommendation with vulfpeck
@@dajikbatarang1My pleasure, Vulfpek is great and needs to be shared! Did you get the Gustard R26?
@@MisterChibs I did indeed
Is it possible to connect a Wiim pro
Check out the pinned comment in this video.
Please explain how your "DDC" can improve the sound...
Hold that thought and stay tuned. My next video is on DDC’s. 🍻
Thanks for the review. Just ordered a Gan 1 along with a MiniDSP Flex because I don't need streaming. I just use an Apple TV 4K connected to an HDMI switch which outputs coax. Plan to feed coax to the MiniDSP flex for volume control and room correction then straight into the Gan 1. Just trying to decide on bookshelf speakers. Either the KEF R3 Meta or Buchardt S400MK2. The only part of of your review that concerned me was that you said the Gan 1 was about equivalent to a chord mojo 2 DAC...was hoping it would sound at least as good as an R2R dad like a Denfrips Areas 12th....
So much to say here. First off, I doubt you'll regret ordering the GaN 1. I'm eventually going to make a follow video on how I've been using mine and how invaluable it's become. Now - as far as bookshelves, I haven't tried either of those BUT hear me out. Keff LS50 Metas with more low end? - Sign me up for That!! The R3 Metas are definitely on my radar and where I would personally steer towards. As to, your last concern: I wouldn't worry about R2R at this stage of your trip. Remember, I'm not comparing with Ares as I've never used one in my system. I'm comparing with a much more expensive Venus DAC. Having said that, look at R2R as a different flavour. Yes, it can definitely be preferable but this isn't apples to apples. You don't get R2R in an all in one package like the GAN 1. You'd have to spend quite a lot more and deal with added complexity, wires, interconnects etc. Save R2R for an other system / trip. Okay, i think that's all for now and hope it helps! Let me know what you end up with. 🍻
@@MisterChibs Thanks for the reply. Will definitely let you know how things workout. My prime system is a Bakoon Amp-13R and an Ares 12th with Buchardt S400MK2. I have small rooms (8x8ft). I'm leaning towards the KEF R3 Meta just for a different flavour for sure. Will probably mix and match the gear to find the right synergy. Excited to play with this stuff :)
@@MisterChibs - got my GaN 1 today! Also received my MiniDSP Flex (digital version). They work great together. I have an HDMI switch which outputs COAX > MiniDSP Flex which has a remote control and does Pre-amp, Dirac Room Correction and EQ (not using this yet) > GaN 1. Connected to my HDMI switch is an Apple 4K which I use for audio and video airplay and a PS 5. The DSP for room correction does wonders. Currently just have a budget pair of bookshelf speakers from 1991 connected to it. They sound great! GaN 1 is clean and with room correction, even though the speakers are close to the wall, it provides a deep, holographic sound stage with nice imaging. I recommend you give room correction a try and share your results in a future video :)
@@User_not_found_403 That's awesome! I'm currently using my GaN 1 in our family room and I'de imagine room correction would help. I think you'll notice a big difference when you upgrade your speakers. let me know when this happens!!👍🍻
@@MisterChibs Will do! Temporarily using NEAR 10-M speakers - never heard them sound so good, but I'm upgrading some KEF Q100s - adding internal bracing, damping and new cross overs. Will see how that goes. Ultimately though, I will be getting another set of Buchardt S400 MK2s. In my space, I don't have the luxury of pulling speakers away from the wall and although with the right space, I think I'd enjoy the KEF R3 Meta (also love the aesthetics), I think the Buchardt will fare better in my room. Also the slightly warm nature of the Buchardt should pair nicely with he GaN 1.
Anyone know how GAN1 due with the input digital signal?
Will GAN1 resample the input digital signal by GAN1's own clock? If yes, then reclock the SPDIF signal outside of GAN1 may no meaning to good sound quality because GAN1 internal clock of DSP may not better than your external reclock device quality
To my understanding, the Gan1 does not re-sample.
@@MisterChibsthanks for your update! If you have chance, can you test the SPDIF signal with/without good reclock can affect the sound quality? Same case happen in DAC, good reclock SPDIF signal with lower jitter can improve sound quality in DAC, I believe GAN1 PCM to PWM by DSP, the sound quality is also affected by jitter, I checked with Peachtree about this but no reply.
@@joeneticchan9640 My pleasure, stay tuned for my upcoming video on DDC's. 🍻
Gizzard's new metal album is both a love letter to their favourite metal bands and albums, and an absolute gauntlet slap in the face.
Album of the year. Easily.
This comment is killing me. I haven’t listened to PetroDragonic Apocalypse yet. I’m burning in some new equipment and forcing myself to wait until that’s optimal for the first listen. 🔥🔥🔥👍🏻
*Update on Wiim Mini compatibility.* This is a cut / paste from Peachtree’s Facebook group.
“Attention GaN 1 owners and potentia l GaN 1 owners, we do NOT recommend using the WiiM brand of streamers with the GaN 1 at this time. It is our understanding that when the digital volume control in the WiiM is engaged (the internal DSP is turned on), the sampling rate of the Wiim is set to 48kHz. But, more importantly, the product is audibly noisier than when the internal DSP is bypassed. This is NOT an issue in the GaN 1 or when using a Bluesound NODE with the GaN 1.
Until the WiiM products are updated, which may require different internal hardware/DSP processing, we can NOT recommend them with our GaN 1. We also recommend that if you are using a WiiM streamer with any of our OTHER products, do NOT engage the functions that utilize the internal DSP, to achieve the best sound quality. The WiiM steamers are attractive Wi-Fi solutions due to their low price, but they have design limitations that should be understood to get the best sound quality from them.”
When I tried this combo, I did not notice extra noise but also did not directly AB the Wiim mini against my Bluesound Node. It’s a shame the Wiim’s internal dsp has to get involved and on top of that, it’s not even bit perfect. Maybe this can get fixed in one of Wiim’s many firmware updates. I’ll update if and when they do. 🙃
There is software that is converting signal to PWM. I AN SKEPTICAL dac less sounds better than pretty new technology and software digital conversion direct into Amp. It has sparked my curiosity. I am a recent class D convert and it’s come long way and Gan has been all the rave as well. Also MOSFET amps can sound awesome and Natural as my grand pappy tells me lol
It's tough to isolate what makes GaN 1 sound better. Could be it's DAC-less design, maybe the Gan Fet. I think it's combo of both. In any case, you and your grand pappy should give it a try 😉🍻
Nice review but I love how all these reviews are worried about dedicated sub out. High level via speaker terminals is always an option and sounds better.
Thanks Nathan. Unfortunately, not every sub has high level connections. Mine don't 😥but they all have the rca type of connection. Next sub I'm looking to pick up should have high level. Should be interesting to test out.🍻
@@MisterChibs this is true! I shouldn’t have said it’s always an option. If you already have a sub you like it’s certainly a barrier. I’ve tried hooking up my sub via my Node and to my PT Nova300 amp via high level and I’ve had more success blending via high level.
@@nathankilgore7061 Which sub do you have? I was looking at eventually getting KC62 or Rel T7x. Both have high level.
@@MisterChibsI have a Peachtree Nova 150, Kef LS50 Meta and a REL T7/X. Sub blends with the speakers very well VIA high level.
Just to be clear: for the ddc you’re using the USB output of the Node to the DDC?
Yep
How hot does it get? Does it run cool?
Runs cool. Make sure you don’t cover up the vents on top and you’re good. 🍻
No volume display is a negative for the node, not the gan 1. I don't know any amps that have volume displays. Another plus, you save a lot of money not having to buy a dac and only 1 interconnect.
Comparing the Gan 1 as an integrated when "No volume display" was mentioned. The way I'm currently using my BS Node, it's also connected to my Headphone amp with volume set to fixed. So I have to be SUPER careful when switching to my loudspeakers. DAC-less is a definite plus! 🍻
Kinda confused about this video. Thought this was a review of a new piece of equipment? The top of the unit looks all scratched up and the air venting is caked with dust and dirt??
Yea, it is new but the review period was months in the making. There was a bit of dust I didn’t catch until afterwards. Thanks for watching 🍻
@@MisterChibs Good reviews as always, just wandering. Thank you
@@lights80088Thanks Tom, something to keep in mind when filming B roll in future. From the angle I stood while filming I didn’t see any dust 😅
Hey, that's no problem. Maybe I should not even asked, my apology. You always do a great job on your videos. Until next time.
Mosfets, bjts etc are not old scool tech. Tubes are. & there's nothing you can do to replace tubes in true audiophilia nirvana.
Still a great small amp/dac even though it's technically not a dac.
Thanks for watching and sharing your opinion.
@@MisterChibs thanks but that thing is probably a godsend for people living in small condos. A+ for the effort for sure.
Get yourself a Rel sub as it can hook right up to the Gan.
Not a bad idea, thanks for the suggestion. 👍🍻
@No sht Sherlock I think the way Rel subs work is they piggy back on the binding posts directly from the amp (Correct me if I’m wrong). If this is the case, I could use something like a Wiim mini / Wiim pro that doesn’t have a sub port to connect to. That makes the Rel more versatile in that case.
@@MisterChibs I have a stereo pair of rel, and tie in their connections with my bananas at the speaker connection. That way if I want to rotate amps or speakers, the rel connection is incorporated into my speaker cable. It is also tapping the signal AFTER it has traveled the length of the speaker cable first. So if you believe your speaker cable adds any special flavoring to the whole equation, you're getting it to your subs in addition to the speaker terminals.
@@erics.4113 Cool! Will look into Rel. Maybe they have something equivalent to the KC62. Small but capable.
@@MisterChibs I use a pair of t7x. Capable of texture and tone and very articulate bass indeed, but they are -3dB at something like 30ish Hz so they aren't the extension kings like the Kef kc62... It 'feels' like their in-room is a little better than the specs indicate. But that's my subjective take, I haven't measured in-room response.
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They can call it a DAC-less design, but in essence, wouldn't the amp itself just be a DAC? It would simply be one with a very high output, not a traditional low level DAC that then gets further amplification in the analog world. Say what you want, but what goes to a speaker is analog. As to a wife who tells you to get your stereo out of the living room and back to the basement - time to find a new wife! lol
I would like to see a wave of traditional amps/receivers coming down the line using the Gallium transistors. Comparison will make more sense then. I do agree there are some reasons to have interest in these devices (efficiency, heat transmission), but since PWM supplies have become a thing, there has been an extra level of reliability issues introduced. A transformer, bridge rectifier, and supply caps is inherently simple, very reliable, and a simple fix in the rare case of failure - which if anything, is decades down the road. PWM supplies are component laden, and with many active devices in play - not an easy fix, plenty of things that can fail, and not too many techs that are adept at diagnosing them. Surface mount stuff often doesn't help the latter.
Thanks for watching and the well thought out reply. As far as reliability, I use the GaN 1 daily and it’s been great. 👍🏻🍻
Why wouldn't Peachtree send the GAN 1 out to reviewers with way more than 1750 followers?
Oh, well I can assure you they did. I have 1757 followers. Thanks for watching!👍🏻
@@MisterChibs John Darko is the only other one I know of to review it. I follow a lot of hifi reviewers. Besides Hans Brezechen(?) you're the only one getting into engineering aspects.
@@adambrown8867 Whatever you do, enjoy the music! 🍻
@@adambrown8867 I don’t always get into the engineering side of things. Since this technology is something relatively new, I thought it was important to explain technical differences.
Additionally, not sure if you caught my Hans Beekhuyzen quote above 😅 I like that channel too. 🍻
Technics makes the similar ganfet amp with way better sound quality….
I mentioned Technics in the review as an alternate. For what they charge I would hope it's got better sound quality.
You've heard both?
The one that costs 17K?
I bet it's easier to sound better than a 1.3k amp.
@9.55 “This isn’t permanent”... no wife is permanent. Speakers can stay...
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_excuse me Sir_
_did you just call me bubbeleh_
i keep trying to get into King Gizzard because people who know me think i'll like it but man
it just ain't hapnin yet
outstandingly thorough review. i mean you even included a science lesson, damn
You specifically? Yes 😆
@@WeeWeeJumbo Gizzard's not for everyone but if you don't like one album, you may like an other because they're all so different.
@@WeeWeeJumbo Thank you WeeWeeJumbo! 🍻
Minimize Noice...meaning not dead silent then.
Dead silent on the updated one, yes. 🍻
2:35. Made from silcone? Seriously?
No, it's silicon.
@@MisterChibs Thank god! That would be a gooey mess! 🤪🤣 Great vid!
@@TD05SSLegacy Thanks for watching! 🍻
I would speak less about LEDs and MOSFETs since you don't seen to have a clue about either of them.
“Good. I can feel your anger. I am defenseless. Take your weapon. Strike me down with all your hatred, and your journey towards the dark side will be complete.” - Palpatine
@@MisterChibs You still sound foolish
And you're being overtly rude for some reason. I clapped back with the Palpatine quote because your comment seemed baselessly angry and to have a bit of fun 😆. If I made any mistakes, go ahead and correct me but just saying I don't have a clue about mosfets and led's without backing that up makes YOU sound foolish. Mk?
@@MisterChibs People like you just perpetuate ignorance
@@alvaius So nothing to correct? Since you've offered nothing even remotely constructive, it's clear you're just trolling. I hope this at least validates whichever part of your ego that desperately needs it. Thanks for watching!
For those wanting analog input into the GaN-1, Van Alstine DVA A2D ANALOG-TO-DIGITAL CONVERTER. I own one and use it's 2 selectable unbalanced inputs to route my ifi Pro iDSD and Peachtree PreDAC into my GaN-1.
That’s cool, thanks for sharing! 👍🏻🍻