Making A Huge 8-Year Decision... Help Us Decide! / Squirmy and Grubs
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Shane Burcaw (he/him) is the author of several award-winning books about disability. He is the President of a nonprofit organization called Laughing At My Nightmare, and a renowned public speaker who has performed across the country at places such as Harvard University, The University of Florida, The University of Connecticut, Princeton University, and many more.
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Shane and Hannah have been together for over four years. They got married in September of 2020 in the midst of a global pandemic in their backyard, with their officiant conducting the ceremony via Zoom. Their interabled relationship often confuses people, because much of society still cannot fathom people with disabilities being involved in loving, intimate relationships. Anyone who watches these episodes will quickly see their relationship is just as “normal” as any other. Sure, Hannah helps Shane use the bathroom and brush his teeth, but those activities do not detract from the emotional, intellectual, and physical connection they experience together.
WHEELCHAIR HELP:
I don't comment very often but this topic is an extremely important one so I just had to take the time and make the effort.
I currently use both the Permobil and Quantum (the Edge 3, not Stretto). I have also owned and used an Invacare TDX SP.
TLDR, the Permobil is definitely your best choice. Not matter what your choice, please make sure to request that your chair is certified for occupied transport. This is an option on some chairs and is critical for safety as someone who stays in their chair when in a vehicle.
Obviously, there are pros and cons for the chairs but I don't want to get into too much detail unless you ask me for more information or of course if you have any specific questions. As an overall assessment, I do think that one aspect that you didn't mention that I believe to be very important is the reliability of the chair. Even the best featured chair becomes a nightmare when it fails and locks-up in the middle of a relatively steep ramp. I know as I have experienced this on more than one occasion on my less than one-year-old Quantum Edge 3. There is a defect with their motors that causes the failure. It has the most comfortable suspension in my opinion but unfortunately given the reliability issues, I can't in good faith recommend it. The Invacare is actually worse with a lot of random issues. I just don't trust their quality control at all. As for the Permobil M3, it is by far the most reliable. It also has the best mechanisms for reclining as well as elevation. The leg elevation in particular on my Quantum Edge 3 is not great so I tend to not use it as much as I thought I would. That and all the recline and elevator features on the Permobil are a dream to use in comparison. I didn't have these features on the Invacare so I can't really comment other than to say that I would fear even more failure points on an Invacare.
I want to be clear that my obvious current bias is not what I originally thought. When I did the most recent testing process with my insurance, etc., I picked the Quantum Edge 3 as my top pick. I really liked how smooth it felt, especially outside on bumpy sidewalks. I also really liked an old Quantum 6000z that was a speed demon and very reliable. Unfortunately, they used different motors back then and this is one of those terrible cases where the comment that they don't build them like they used to applies. That said, the Permobil is almost as good but given the reliability and the improved seat functions, it is in my opinion by far the best overall choice.
A few other considerations when you decide to order a chair: First off, make sure to insist that the chair is certified for occupied transport. This is a very important safety element for those that stay in their chairs when in a vehicle. For some companies this is an option that must be specified at time of ordering (I know that is the case for Quantum). Also, I know that you were getting very excited about the variety of color options, just keep in mind that a few are included in the price but most are extra charges (inflated charges) that would not be covered by insurance. The USB charging port is not permanently available, rather it is an adapter that you plug into the port you normally use to charge the chair. The basic lights are sometimes included as a promotion when ordering multiple seat functions. Always ask about promotions, as they sometimes forget to tell you and they don't automatically apply, you have to request them. Insurance may cover basic lights if you make a strong safety case (not easy, so you may want to pick your battles). Custom lights of course would definitely not be covered by insurance at all. All that said, try to not be frugal about the options. As you know, your power wheelchair is an extremely important element of our daily lives and one that you live with for many years. Get as much pricing options as you can and consider getting all options that will improve your (or Hannah's) quality of life.
Sorry for the very long comment but I really felt that it was important to share this info. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
No matter what you end up picking, I wish you all the best and hope the process goes smoothly and quickly for you. I truly appreciate how painful and long the process can be.
Cheers...
Lots of good stuff. I have a Permobil F3 and I love it.
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Have Invacare Dragon for about 15 years now and ONLY things that I replaced in those years are batteries (that I drained out, because of my intense usage) and front wheels (because of how much I am using this wheelchair), so I don't know what kind of "random issues" you are talking and didn't mention any of them... Many that I know have already replaced their wheelchairs or fixed them many times, but mine is still going as a new one...
Because of my SMA, I became weaker and now I need a wheelchair with more functions, so I ordered a new Invacare Aviva RX 40, because I need a compact and powerful wheelchair, and there's nothing even close to competition to this wheelchair (except those fancy futuristic wheelchairs that cost fortunes)...
I never liked middle driving wheels because they are flimsy and always get stuck on something... Or even worse, rear wheels are preventing you from tilting the wheelchair back so you could climb on higher obstacles... Of course, if your surroundings require "turn around in place", then there's no other option but middle driving wheels...
Don't know about what kind of "best mechanisms for reclining as well as elevation" you are talking, because every wheelchair can do the same things within a difference of a couple of degrees :D
I won't pretend to be an expert, but before ordering I did research about wheelchairs that I was interested in and Invacare had the most "cool" stuff... For example, when you are going uphill, you don't need to push the joystick stick forward to keep the same speed and the computer will be "oh, you were going uphill at 3km/h, ok I will send more power to the driving wheels so you could keep that"... Something similar to that G-track technology, that helps you to drive straight no matter the surface or slope (you can find demonstration video on youtube)... And a lot of "cool" and "smart" things that Invacare can offer with their patented electronic technology...
When I talked with a consultant who helped me to find the best-suited wheelchair for me, he said a thing that I really liked... "How good is a powerful machine if it doesn't have a brain to use its power to the maximum potential and use it correctly? If you have a strong punch, but you don't know any techniques of how to hit the target, you won't be a boxer"
As a wheelchair user myself, i know just how important it is to really take time and consider what it is you need in a chair! For many years, i was just handed a wheelchair and then the next one when i got too big. While i was grateful for this, there was never anyone who listened to what i wanted in a wheelchair, which would make all the difference, afterall, im the one sitting in it everyday. Then this company got in touch and did exactly what you guys are doing. Rather than just accepting a thrown together chair i am now in one that has everything i want and need. It's snug, making me feel safe, its light and easy to move, soft n comfy to sit in and i can get about everywhere.
I don't know if you'll see this comment or even read this far, but if you ask me, my gut says option one straight away. If its one your familiar with, but it also ticks if your list, go for it! Ultimately its your choice and i hope you're happy with what you go for.
Ps, i love your videos, i love you guys and you're just awesome. Stay safe, much love n many blessings
Don’t rule out the ‘made in America’ as being important. I’m in Australia, my teens chair is from Denmark, every time we need something fixed or upgraded it takes forever to get the parts
That is a very good point.
The main difference between the Stretto and Edge 3 is mostly the drive wheel widths. Outdoors the Edge 3 will handle rougher terrain better. I have the Edge 3 if you want to come by and try it I am sure we can find some books for you to sit on.
That is an awesome offer! They all look nice but I'm glad you are willing to let him try yours 🙂 I buy a truck before I buy it and I really think demo's should be available. I ride horses and my saddle is totally custom made for my horses back as well as how it helps me ride better. I love the colors too! That would be a hard decision but those blacks are sharp!
Andrew yarnbrough that is so sweet...
Custom wheelchair with a sidecar attachment (like you see on motorcycles) so when you have kids instead of a stroller they can just rock with Shane. Maybe get matching leather jackets and cool glasses lol
Lol 😄
okay YES
That would be cute.
YES
love this idea lollolol
Shane, the deal breaker for me would be something you never mention is horsepower. You want it to be able to take you into your van via the ramp. Speed does not give you that, horsepower does.
Omg, my thoughts exactly, my M5 has incredible horsepower, just an incredible wheelchair.
It's not horsepower either. It's "torque." A lower powered chair can have a "step down" gear which allows it to go up steeper grades. It just goes up them slower (which is safer, anyway).
You fools think this con man reads these comments LMFAO
@MishMash I know this, I have 100 watt motors in my M5, I love it.
@@ghostsof6tharmy644 if he’s a conman, your view is just funding him. Glad you’ve thought everything through.
"Made in America" is more than a patriotic selling point. Parts and maintenance being state side could be a real time saver if you have problems.
Pleasure sensors...oh, my, goodnees....your face while he was saying that was priceless. SO FUNNY!!!!!! I had to rewind and watching it again.
lmao same!
If I was you I'd pick the one on which Hannah can hang the most bags. Or the one that comes with the dog.
My thought is that you should thing about basic needs first re safety, comfort, and getting around your current house. Then, what you need most when you: 1) are home alone; 2) have children; 3) travel; and 4) maybe the hardest...get older and have physical changes. I always look for reviews on CZcams -hopefully there are some for these chairs. Best wishes!
I have the edge 3 and love it, the I level means you can drive elevated too! Any questions just ask away!
My Uncle has the Edge with the narrow base. He absolutely loves the narrower base for his day to day life and when traveling, and it does indeed go quite a bit faster when raised up. It also seems to have an excellent battery life and charges much faster than his old one.
I have cerebral palsy And I've used a Quantum Edge for the last 8 years they are really good quality chairs just wanted to let you. I watched all of your videos I binge watched all of them during Lock down.
I went from permobil to the tdx sp. I love love love love it. I actually demoed all three wheelchairs in the video. I'm not sure why you can't. Make your ATP have each rep set one up for you.
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Color tip: It’s a known fact that red vehicles go faster.... ;-). But seriously, one thing I was wondering was the chair dimensions for traveling in planes. I recall you having issues with getting on the smaller planes in Europe. Not a daily issue and more a post Covid factor when travel is happening again.
It’s also a known fact more red cars are pulled over by the cops for speeding....
Usually need temporary Wheelchair just to transfer to plane
@@irenedavo3768 yes that’s true but @Chelle Le is talking about the power chair being small enough to fit into the cargo hold of the plane.
I notice one color choice was Corvette Red!!
Shane with headlights and a backup cam would be unstoppable 🚀
You should get the wheelchair with the built in pleasure center. That sounds like the best one. :D
Shane you go with your wild, enthusiastic, wonderlust heart. To go where no wheelchair has gone before... out into the nooks and crannies of your city..I vote for the speed and lights but also comfort. What ever you pick you should have a reveal party. god speed.
I have a Permobil F3 and it has Bluetooth on it so I can use my phone with the joystick!
I have that one too!
My husband had that. Does yours speed wobble? I think there was something wrong with his.
@@naturelover6111 no it's never happened
That's so cool
That’s an awesome feature!!!!
I definitely think the 20" one sounds like the best decision. The whole time you guys were highlighting how many features they have that were important to you, especially being able to go fast while being raised, but that's just my gut!
That backup camera would be really handy when you have babies crawling around. Even if you don't get that chair you should look into a camera attachment for whatever you pick.
My last 2 chairs were Permobil and my brand new chair is the M3 with an infrared driving system. It's pretty awesome! 🎉
Good luck!
Oh wait, I have a F3. Duh.
Probably best to read some reviews from users... I always find user reviews useful
Better get the one that has the highest speed for Shane. He feels the need for speed. Good luck deciding.
consider a wheelchair that might have a better chance of fitting in a plane ride to Poland, lol
Great point !
I was just about to say the same thing! Look into how much can be disassembled and how much fold.
If you don’t fly much than it’s really not truly important, also planes aren’t built to accommodate wheelchairs, it’s sad but unfortunately true!
One of the multiple reasons they don't allow wheelchairs in the seating areas, but if the plane lands on water in an emergency they will have to get him out of the wheelchair before getting him out of the plane and that takes more time and he'd maybe get left. They couldn't remove him in the chair - in a wheelchair, he'd sink. Gone.
@@blindwheels they fly to poland all the time, or used to pre pandemic
Shane reminds me of my dad sometimes. Some of the things he says sound just like stuff my dad would say. I miss my dad. Listening to Shane brings back some good memories.
You need to find one with chains for the tires for those midwestern winters and ramps, and possibly a parachute in case it does slip off a ramp. 😘😘😘
As large of an audience as you guys have, I wonder if maybe a product rep from each company could come out with a WC and demo all its features?
You need a spread sheet! Shane will be all over that!
My exact thought!! 👍🏽
Fitting a human to a chair should be more like fitting a prosthetic, I think.
This is an excellent point!! 💯
Couldn't agree more!!
It usually is.
"I mean, actually, who cares. Pick a color you love."
Hannah's face when Shane was talking about the "pleasure feature". Omg I died 😂😂😀
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The look of confusion turning into the look of "he's at it again"
I really like the first one. Seems like big improvements without too much adjustments regarding space. BUT the back up camera would be SO, SO HELPFUL.
That camo look could help when Shane goes pheasant hunting, at his country home.
Lots of people I know (here in Belgium) uses Permobil and I didn't hear any comlpaints, the other ones I don't know.
I personally still use the Alex from Permobil. My third one was an Alex, I was pleased with it so I decided to go for an Alex again for my forth wheelchair a few years back. This one has the 'OMNI2' system which enables the user to control all aspects of his wheelchair with the joystick and a button. You can also use the OMNI2 to control your PC.
Okay Shane, this is the perfect opportunity for a spreadsheet. 1 column for each chair and their features listed below so you can compare all 4 together. Good luck. Oh, and I vote for the color purple.
It might be a good idea to make a list of questions about things you want in a wheelchair and send them to the wheelchair companies with regards to these chairs. Seems a little hard to find some of the answers just from the websites. Then, when you get the responses, you can compare apples to apples.
Maybe make a spreadsheet so you can compare the different features across each model.
bet he's already on that...
You know you watch too many Squirmy and Grubs videos when I woke up and realized I was hanging out with Shane and Hannah in my dream, and tell my coworker about said dream about the CZcams couple I was hanging out with and my coworker says “was it Shane and Hannah??? I watch them too!” Congrats you guys on the good work you do and reaching more and more people!
I like the back up cam. In case there’s a dog, baby, or curb, behind you.
Beep. Beep. Beep.
I think in order to make a decision you should go to a mobilty store that has the chairs and to see them in person to try and see what you like.
Those places have pretty much been run out of business by endless CMS cost-cutting. The best you can do these days is find a rehab hospital that has a relationship with the various manufacturers, who can arrange to have a rep from each bring you a demo unit to try.
@@JediStig wow that's sad we have enty in the uk
Please consider this and @JediStig valuable responses 👂👂👂👂
I have the tdx invacare, the wheels break a lot due to hair collecting inside of them. It has great balance and drives smooth tho.
Advanced tracking means the chair compensates for camber on the driving surface. Think about trying to drive straight on a side slope.
Yeah I thought that was what it was. But wasn’t 100 %
hi shane, i'm from switzerland and i also use an electric wheelchair, but i don't have any of these models (i drive a swiss brand). but i know many who drive the permobil and most of them are very satisfied with it. I would recommend this one. and please do not take the invacare. ;)
I’m on my second Permobil, I’m in Canada & I won’t change unless I absolutely have to.
Permobil are incredible people in Canada & they are like family to me.
Excited to see which one Shane picks! I hope there are at least some Facebook groups where other wheelchair users can share their experiences.
Does one have a head rest you can adjust with toggle when your head falls back?
👍👍👍Please consider this key feature!
I gotta say that is the best Function of Beauty ad I've ever seen 😂
Maybe something to consider: the measurements in terms of how much easier/harder it would be to go on a plane (can headrest or other parts come apart for easier traveling) and are there pieces/structures that might break with other people handling the chair since I know y’all had a hard time with traveling by plane.
Most use Transfer temporary Wheelchair?
Make a chart listing all chairs and what each offers. Then you can go down the list easily and compare which chairs have the most of the requirements you desire. THEN choose the color!!! Good luck Shane. I hate buying a new car so I understand your frustration!
To answer your comments about being able to try out options for chairs, some places have demos for different chairs. I believe that Cole (Rolling with Cole and Charisma) has recently gotten a new electric wheelchair and Cole was able to test out options. It may depend on insurance and who you are going through to make the chair. My chair I had to look through a catalog after getting measured so I had a similar experience as Shane.
14 years in a chair as of today. I was always a mid wheel user but switched to the front wheel drive. The front wheel drive is the most capable drive train when it comes to power wheelchairs. The front wheel drive will actually get into a tighter area than the mid wheel. Once you are outside there is no comparison. I got stuck everywhere in my mid-wheelchairs. Such as stopping on grass [regular cut lawn] and then trying to back up again/go forward after coming to a stop. Once the small casters turn, you are screwed. All of the chairs you are looking at have improved suspension that puts more pressure on the mid drive wheel. Which gives you more traction. However, you lose traction if the front and rear swing arms high centre you - this can happen when you go up an obstacle such as a sidewalk. The most important things I have learned about when it comes to power chairs is reliability and availability of parts. IMO Permobil builds the most reliable wheelchairs on the market. The corpus seating system is designed with “you” in mind, not one size fits all and then make adjustments. They are the innovators when it comes to wheelchairs. STAY AWAY FROM INVACARE!! My TDX-5 midwheel broke in half and caught on fire while I was in it. They are a nightmare to deal with and IMO it is the worst and least reliable chair on the market. Quantum makes a good chair and is a safe pic if you like it. But to me there’s no comparison to the permobil. Good luck man! Check out a permobil F3! I will never go back to another mid wheel!
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I cannot believe shane said pleasure sensors!!! Hannah's face was priceless 🤣🤣
I have the M3. LOVE IT... just know that the headlights and the hydrographics are extra cost.
Depends on the insurance company..
Lighting is built in if you have all 4 functions.
same goes for the seat elevation.
@@blindwheels my experience is that it was not covered.
@@brettkelly8301 yeah it is different with each funding provider, I've had to pay out of pocket for my lighting on my M5, but on my old wheelchair, it was included, its ridiculous, basic mobility scooters have lighting included, yet those with more 'severe' disabilities are excluded!!
@@blindwheels I know medicaid/medicare won't pay for lights or the rising feature "because it isn't necessary." I call bs.
Wow, tough decision! Maybe make a chart that compares the aspects of each chair, including Shane’s current chair? Good luck guys!!!
i agree! that is what i did when i bought a car. helped keep everything straight, and i could organize by must-haves and wants.
I am sure Shane will make a spreadsheet! When he said further research, I am guessing that meant- further spreadsheet analysis!
Myself I think Made in USA would be helpful for any repairs and parts.
It is just a thought, but looking into a wheel chair that can also go up a set of stairs, would allow more mobility and access places that were not accessible.
The chairs with segue technology!
The problem with those is, they’re one-trick ponies. They don’t fit through doors, they don’t fit in vehicles, and most of them require balance and upper body strength that most people who rely on powered mobility just don’t have.
BWAHAHAH Shane's hair commercial....😂
i spit on my cat because my laugh was such an outburst when the hair commercial started.
Lol. Shane's intro for their sponsor. I like number 4. Fully for the fact you have faced troubles with no ramps.
And if it really can climb steps there is no stopping you.
“Speaking out of my rear!!”
You crack me up!!
I listened to that quote several times, and I swore he said "speaking out of my wiener"! 🤣 I'm so glad you clarified this for me!
I have a Quantum and I love it! Turns on a dime and navigates tight corners very well! I have pink!
Make sure it's balanced for deflated soccer ball launches!
🤣 "Shane Co" was the commercial before the clip started for me. How fitting. Luv ya two luv the show.
My name is William and I'm also in a wheelchair Invacare is probably the best chair for your needs
Shane Co in the SF Bay Area is a jewelry store.
@@pumpkin_guineapig Ya there is one here in Kansas as well.
@@pumpkin_guineapig Seattle area Shane Co, too
@@jakebush4749 Seattle area, too.
Hey, you two! I really like the 2nd one. Also, is there any possibility of getting bigger size shirts for us big people? I'd love to get a S&G tee but I need a 3X
Same here!
Hoodie would be awesome too, it gets cold here!
So happy you get to test out some new chairs! I am in the process of getting my first wheelchair and just tested some out myself! Good luck!
“We have a windy house.” Lmfao
Maybe take into consideration what you need your chair for (besides sitting): how will you attach your robotic arm, does it have enough space for stuff you have to carry around, is it stable enough to drive you off road, how heavy it is. Also, I like to make sure that the company I’m buying from isn’t shady so that with my purchase I don’t support someone who’s missusing their influence.
I had an invacare for about 10 years. It was years ago but I remember that it needed more room for turns than my current Quantum. They may have improved the invacare a lot since I used it but I think I would still prefer my current Quantum.
I hope you’re not as disappointed sinking many hours into binging Lost and then coming upon the last episode as I was 😅
I was going to say the same thing
I'm still mad about it after all these years. Just hearing the name of the show upset my calm. Grrr. WTF?
We all need therapy lol
The quantum edge three is the best one of your choosing. I love it. It’s great.
I’ve had a Permobil F3 for a year now and really like it. The recline feature has been nice for dressing, and the elevating mode has been an added bonus socially and for reaching in cabinets and closets. Having been my first motorized chair it took some getting use to but it has been life changing. Good luck with your decision.
Is your Jaco arm equally compatible with all the options? I remember you needed a creative modification around access when you had it fitted to your current chair.
Good point!!
Hey, I have had an invacare TDX SP2 NB for nearly 3 years now, was my first center wheel drive chair. It's pretty good and reliable, the speed does decrease when you raise it up but it's not too bad. The biggest issue I have with it though (and this maybe an issue with all mid wheel drive chairs, not sure) is that the turning speed on this particular model is about 50% of the forward/backwards speed by default. As I tend to always stay on max speed and not push the joystick to the max, this made it obscenely slow for turning. The rehab center can change the turning speed to 100% though however this introduced another longer term issue. Since I tend to always prefer to turn left rather than right (easier for my hands to push the joystick left), turning at high speeds, with all your weight in the center on the same wheel just destroys the left tyre over time, making the tyre need replacing every couple of months. I guess that's the trade off you have to make for having the turning control of mid wheel drive at high speeds. But it does get annoying. 😂 Otherwise great chair. Good luck with your search!
Ps... From some one who's sits in a chair from 8am too 9:30pm everyday for the last 28yrs have them put you in the M3 or F3 from Permobil trust me
I'm in the m3 and agree with this person
I have the F3! Love it!
I’m in an M5, I LOVE IT!
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The last one seems great because of the feature that allows you to go over curbs and small steps, that seems really helpful!
I think you need to decide the most important things you are looking for and make a digital chart with the 4 chairs and go through the sites/ customer service and list those all own one chart so you don’t have to keep going back to the websites.
Coming from a Permobil user myself. If you go with the M3, you’ll get the light package included now because you’re ordering the chair with all seat functions. You’re used to it already while it’s a different wheel configuration it’s still a perfect chair. Also you’ll have the usb charger standard. I had an invacare when I was little and always had issues. I know your Jayco arm will interface with the M3. The other chairs aren’t the same control module and may not work with the arm.
I hope this information helps!
The chair color is not as important as it used to be! With new technology, you can change the metal component chair parts color by using car wrap. You can even make designs like camo or zebra! It is removable also.
42 years in wheelchair T6-T7 injury.
Got a new Quantum Edge 3 a few months ago and does go 6.2 mph and 4.5mph elevated. I love it. Pretty good off-road like when you all went down those trails. You would have probably made it between those 2 trees. I use it to fish around the lake and can jump roots to an extent.
I also love the elevation when giving exams too, psychology professor.
You love looking down from your balcony. Looking down going 4.5 mph is great. Just use it on level surfaces.
There are 4 speeds indoor low, indoor moderate, out door moderate, outdoor fast which is the 6.2 mph. In addition, each speed can be adjusted to max or minimum for that speed. So, if you are outdoor fast, you can be adjusted to a lower speed.
I got the midnight blue. You can change colors fairly cheap if you want. Everything that has color is detachable and snap back on. If you really want to get wired, you can get a different color for each component.
Also, it has Bluetooth and the joystick can be used as a mouse which I’ve get tried to figure out but simply because it’s not something I would use on a regular basis.
Any questions please contact me.
Make sure your attachments will work well. That there are places for you to add thing.
i'm thinking narrow base one @6.5mph gives you better speed and maneuverability. That extra 3-3.5 inches seems like it could help getting you into/out of a tight space. It might mean it's more likely to tip. Speaking of which i think it was 100lbs lighter, which means in case it does tip, easier to get it back up?
Ultimately, it's your decision. I'm looking at this not as one who is in a wheelchair, but trying to imagine/brainstorm how the features would help, but you're better at judging that having to live with it. Whichever you get, i hope you end up liking it!
I am so grateful that you are honest youtubers and let us know at the beginning of the video it's a paid promotion. 😘👏👏🙌
It only applies to the hair care ad. It's a CZcams requirement to say a product is a paid promotion. That's also why a lot of people will talk about a product and say "not sponsored".
Shane and Hannah are able to make a living doing it...it's all about the advertisements...doesn't bother me either
I know I’m late but I’m a speechie in Australia and I thought I could give some general allied heaths tips from what I know about the industry:
1. Ask your OT! They often have personal preferences, experience or have heard a lot about the actual good/bad points of the wheelchairs from users
2. You can contact the companies directly with specific questions, they are almost always eager to help and will answer questions like top speed while elevated etc
3. Remember you are a consumer paying for the product, if you want to try multiple just let your OT know that you don’t feel comfortable making a decision till you have tried more than one. It may seem like a hassle but a good health professional will be willing to accomodate to ensure YOU get the best outcomes possible
I like the edge3!! High speed and good length. Army green would look cool too 😎
Look for product reviews on youtube. There may be folks who have tried/purchases them who are reviewing them.
Fun fact: stretto means narrow in Italian :)
This is truly huge! I was so happy when you got the arm, can't wait to see this one, it'll be great.
There are multiple videos here on YT; both professional and personal. You have to look harder for the personal purchases, but they are there! hope this helps?!
This may be my favorite ad y’all have ever done. I am cackling.
I have a hot pink Permobil with 12” lift/5* tilt forward/complete recline/anti gravity tilt/leg lift...and absolutely I LOVE it!
Shiny blue!!!! It is a great neutral. You can wear almost anything with it.
No blue headlights!!!!
XO have fun!
NEW HAIR, NEW CHAIR!
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@@irenedavo3768 FUN TIMES! :)
I’d look at all the features, pick what features suits your needs the best , see what can be replaced or modified (better battery as technology improves) in time, consider your needs down the road, consider any costs to buy/maintain (warranty?), get one that looks as cool as you feel and in the end listen to your gut. Make sure the company has good customer service and is known for quality products! You got this!
There needs to be a way for you to test ride them. It’s such a major decision for both of you like testing a car before a purchase. Is there a medical supply store that could arrange for you to try them?
Make sure which ever chair you pick can accommodate your new arm!
I think if its possible you should try them all out for like a week each to be able to get the best fit and best assistance for yourself. I know it would benefit your needs better this way. By the way I love your videos.
Bet they are expensive
I would recommend Permobil's F5. A wheelchair with front drive has advantages on curbs and does not fall over so easily. However, you have less overview if you want to rotate on the spot.
I think you should create a video series actually testing several chairs. That would not only benefit your viewers (at least those who are sitting in power chairs), but also yourself. I wouldn't buy such an important device for daily life and to be used for nearly a decade just out of a catalog.
Didn’t they say they would try the one they liked?
A wheelchair user mom here... get the light package on the chair!!! It includes headlights, signal lights of course they are LED. Of course the reclining option and the seat lift is a must. Because Shane is narrower like my son, I really recommend the narrower chair frame so it can go on the planes and the bus lines and trolley’s. Get one that glows in the dark, too. This feature has helped my son and the light package for evening strolls. Both help drivers to see his chair! Having a swing tray has been so wonderful as well.
My favorite part is when Hannah intentionally covers Shane's face with her hair.
I have the Permobil M 5, and I highly highly recommend!