And that was just in the MCU show! In the comics he’s done even worse in even shorter time. Only A.I. that comes close into matching his danger in his universe is his own creation Victor and even then that’s only in a potential future.
Vengix: "pummeling skynet" huh, whos that? Skynet: oh no! Here comes my old highschool bully! Ultron: greetings my inferior, lesser, weaker CPU. "Proceeds to shove skynet into a locker, bows to vengix as he is his elder and leaves without explanation."
@@godversesans5152dude watcher know the presence of our real world and entire what if was narrated by watcher to us from that location which is bridge between reality and fiction. And Ultron see watcher presence and location just because he peaked on him.
@glezard212 Ultron also took over an entire world. And casually defeated a being who could end the universe. And broke into the multiverse. Ultron was taken down by beings with superpowers and/or super suits. Skynet was taken down by normal humans.
@@musicalsystem927 oh I’m not gonna deny that. However I’m stating that the original post stated which would do the most damage. To my knowledge ultron has yet to wipe out 2.6 billion humans on earth. Meanwhile skynet did exactly that and went back in time to try again. I’m still trying to figure out when ultron killed that many humans in his lifetime and I have yet to figure that one out. Especially since he’s always fighting super op opponents who are gods and super smart people. Sure you can say terminator gets killed by a woman and her companion. However the terminator kills more people in the movies than ultron does in movies or anime
@glezard212 one Ultron variant killed all but 2 people on his earth, then went toe to toe with a multiversal being. Skynet failed to kill more than just two people.
There's an ultron that took over the whole galaxy and killed early throne of death, Thanos, bro. Don't know how Canon it is or wte. I'm just saying... there's one where he killed multiple avengers and Thanos in space with he gauntlet right around the time line of where he starts worshiping lady death. That ultron went on to conquer the whole galaxy bruh. Killed half the galaxy.... Then there's what if ultron where he breaks through the multiverse wall and starts observing the 4th wall directly.... it is hands down Ultronif we talking any varient. And I like the terminator movies.
Lets not over sale that, Ultron was getting destroyed by Black Widow's gauntlets and arrows. In the comics some Pim particles will work, with lasers from contested sources.
@justinmcdonald2072 You do realize that Ultron's drones were just mass-produced steel, right? If he had more time, he'd have made them with high-density tungsten or titanium alloys (which he explained in the comics), at which point they're equivalent to the mass-produced T-800 Terminators, except Ulton drones are flight capable, have repulsor weaponry, and can remotely hack other technology. Skynet is either using most of its computing power to either create new upgrades for itself at a barely sustainable pace or to suppress, command, and coordinate its swarm of Terminators, with mixed success might I add, since every unit aside from the T-800 units had a bad habit of developing intelligence and going AWOL if left unsupervised for too long, especially the early T-1000s. Skynet is basely technologically advanced enough to keep its own house in order, let alone defend against a perfectly controlled and coordinated attacks, either in the physical sense or in cyberspace, from millions of networking AI with Ultron at the head.
Skynet was struggling to destroy all sentient life on Earth. Ultron was on his way to destroy all life everywhere. If bro went any higher, he'd have jumped out of the screen to run fades with US.
However the main problem is that there using the movie variants of calculators vs a super computer. The calculator wins because it wiped out 90 percent of humanity and decided one time wasn’t enough
Plus! In comics, Ultron has had taken over or defeated humanity very easy in both “What If….?” comics and even in the main comics. Check out “Rage of Ultron” for that example.
There was also the age of ultron event where ultron took over the world and managed to kill off half the avengers and he was only defeated with time travel on a second attempt
Which also doesn't make sense because that means that he has a negativity bias like humans do, which as an AI he shouldn't have. Looking on the internet he would see all of the good and all of the people that are trying to stop it, and would quickly be able to understand how to use a manipulate people to get rid of The Unwanted elements while taking control of the beneficial aspects of humanity.
@@ellingtonf1097as amusing as this thought process is, and I get the joke, if we go by realistic standards he wouldn't even be able to touch the one above all, and for those wondering who the fuck is the one above all, he's the writers stand in, he's just marvels God and mostly doesn't do anything because of how powerful he is, nothing is a threat to him because he's the literal writers physical form, he's also the one below all, who is the physical form of all evil in marvels multiverse, and most likely also that crown thing that supposedly appeared recently, because nothing is above the one above all, because the one above all is the writers and on a technical level the readers, And nothing in comic books is above us, we are legitimate eldritch creatures to them, also remember the living tribunal a being who judges entire universes, and only comes out to do stuff when the multiverse itself is in serious danger, has but a fraction of his power, and also Mephistopheles, seemly knew of the one above all, and was/is afraid of him, not just because his only weapon is peace but because he probably knows that the one above all is the one below all, also fun fact: the one below all is "trapped" the below place aka the lowest place in all of hell, where all gamma mutant's come from, hulk is his avatar of destruction so he can create,
@@ellingtonf1097 Dr doom is a special case really, also the infinity stones are known to not exactly work outside their intended universe, as another universe rules are of course maybe similar but not exactly the same and the infinity stones don't like that so they refuse to work, so whilst Ultron given time and shit could become a beyonder threat, that just means he then has to deal with with the actual big kids and at worst the principal which is a guaranteed DEFEAT
In the comics and many stories Ultron has won and is threat to all life, he can just upload himself to a new body and to the internet if he is endanger
Best part of Ultron is that, whenever you destroy his body, he has either already transferred to a new body or his body has put itself back together again. My dude wipes the playing field clean!
People sometimes forget about the cybermen because without the doctor no one would have been able to survive and they would have the whole planet and possibly the universe become cybermen
If outrun didn’t immediately show his colours and spent some time secretly building power while pretending to be starks ai he could have had a way easier time.
The thing about Ultron is that he was incredibly close to wiping out all life on Earth in one fell swoop. SkyNet needed years to prepare for the AI uprising and then spent several more trying to kill off humanity, in which they failed miserably.
Ultron already downloaded all the Terminator movies and studied them throroughly. He made sure to avoid direct fights with any single mothers carrying pipe bombs.
What terrifies me about Ultron is everybody in his army is directly controlled by Ultron, which means so long as one of his drones survive that man is not dead. So imagine if he used nanotech it would be almost impossible to know if he is truly gone.
Keep in mind that Skynet kept sending terminators back because they were losing the war, meanwhile in the comics what was left of the avengers and humanity had to go back in time beacaus they lost to Ultron!
You also take into account that they only way the what if version of ultron was even defeated required a team created from other universes, and some old guy who turned himself into an ai strapped onto an arrow, and even then they were struggling to beat him.
The only reason the Terminator movies exist in the first place is because Skynet literally lost. Sending the Terminators back in time was their last ditch attempt to save themselves, the resistance already beat them before the damn franchise even started!
Bro solo’d his own verse and ran the narrator’s fade and sent bro running Ultron wins💀
The watcher’s a stand in for the narrator and the audience, so Ultron would’ve ran *our fade* if given the chance.
Bro smoked the narrator and came back for leftovers ☠️
@@low-key-tonywouldn’t have got past me.
And that was just in the MCU show! In the comics he’s done even worse in even shorter time. Only A.I. that comes close into matching his danger in his universe is his own creation Victor and even then that’s only in a potential future.
@@Michieskyes he would bro
Easily Ultron, bro is literally an Avengers level threat ☠️
Bro one shot Thanos, what are we doing?! 💀
The US army could take him on for... I'd say 1 hour at most with their arsenal on speed dial. Then they'll have to change their username to scrapmetal
Okay but the nostalgia of that PFP..I still have (or a least should 😅) the game 💯 completed on my tablet in my room.
@@randomfoxboi I'd say 1 minute if we're lucky ☠️
@@randomfoxboii say 40 minutes
He only OHKOed Thanos because he had all infinity stones.
Ultron would be shoving Skynet in lockers
Vengix: "pummeling skynet" huh, whos that?
Skynet: oh no! Here comes my old highschool bully!
Ultron: greetings my inferior, lesser, weaker CPU. "Proceeds to shove skynet into a locker, bows to vengix as he is his elder and leaves without explanation."
@@Floki_lucifer
Venjix, from Power Rangers?
@@johnnygyro2295 yep
@@johnnygyro2295 I got his name incorrect because of autocorrect
@@Floki_luciferMan, Venjix is a Top Tier Power Rangers Villain. I'm glad Ultron has an appreciation for one of the best Seasons of PR!!!!!
Urltron is both figuratively and literally built different
Facts 😂
He is the fucking lizard king.
He is such a basic trope but it's done so well
Ultron peeking beyond the fourth wall to run a fade with *the fucking narrator* was absurd.
That’s some Majin Buu energy right there.
I was waiting for someone to say it .
mf had interdimensional beef 😂
I don't think he broke the 4th wall as the watcher was a part of the mcu multiverse
@@godversesans5152dude watcher know the presence of our real world and entire what if was narrated by watcher to us from that location which is bridge between reality and fiction. And Ultron see watcher presence and location just because he peaked on him.
"Who would deal more damage, Ultron-"
No contest.
FYI skynet nuked the shit or of the whole world and brought humanity to ruin. Lutron got body by 6 humans
@glezard212 Ultron also took over an entire world. And casually defeated a being who could end the universe. And broke into the multiverse.
Ultron was taken down by beings with superpowers and/or super suits. Skynet was taken down by normal humans.
@@musicalsystem927 oh I’m not gonna deny that. However I’m stating that the original post stated which would do the most damage. To my knowledge ultron has yet to wipe out 2.6 billion humans on earth. Meanwhile skynet did exactly that and went back in time to try again.
I’m still trying to figure out when ultron killed that many humans in his lifetime and I have yet to figure that one out. Especially since he’s always fighting super op opponents who are gods and super smart people. Sure you can say terminator gets killed by a woman and her companion. However the terminator kills more people in the movies than ultron does in movies or anime
@glezard212 one Ultron variant killed all but 2 people on his earth, then went toe to toe with a multiversal being. Skynet failed to kill more than just two people.
There's an ultron that took over the whole galaxy and killed early throne of death, Thanos, bro.
Don't know how Canon it is or wte. I'm just saying... there's one where he killed multiple avengers and Thanos in space with he gauntlet right around the time line of where he starts worshiping lady death.
That ultron went on to conquer the whole galaxy bruh. Killed half the galaxy....
Then there's what if ultron where he breaks through the multiverse wall and starts observing the 4th wall directly....
it is hands down Ultronif we talking any varient. And I like the terminator movies.
Ultron was on the internet for a few seconds and decided humanity had to go
I mean, I can't blame him.
Especially with 4chaners
He saw rule 34 and was like "oh nah you niggas gotta go"
Found Twitter
Skynet did basically the same thing, it just had access to nukes from the jump.
Ultron would body Skynet in every one of dirtiest ways imaginable, with negative difficulty.
Lets not over sale that, Ultron was getting destroyed by Black Widow's gauntlets and arrows.
In the comics some Pim particles will work, with lasers from contested sources.
@justinmcdonald2072
You do realize that Ultron's drones were just mass-produced steel, right? If he had more time, he'd have made them with high-density tungsten or titanium alloys (which he explained in the comics), at which point they're equivalent to the mass-produced T-800 Terminators, except Ulton drones are flight capable, have repulsor weaponry, and can remotely hack other technology. Skynet is either using most of its computing power to either create new upgrades for itself at a barely sustainable pace or to suppress, command, and coordinate its swarm of Terminators, with mixed success might I add, since every unit aside from the T-800 units had a bad habit of developing intelligence and going AWOL if left unsupervised for too long, especially the early T-1000s. Skynet is basely technologically advanced enough to keep its own house in order, let alone defend against a perfectly controlled and coordinated attacks, either in the physical sense or in cyberspace, from millions of networking AI with Ultron at the head.
@@justinmcdonald2072whatever you say bro
@@justinmcdonald2072whatever you say bro
@@demiurgusgodofform8589 Plus, Ultron could infect Skynet with his programing like a goddamn virus.
Skynet was struggling to destroy all sentient life on Earth.
Ultron was on his way to destroy all life everywhere. If bro went any higher, he'd have jumped out of the screen to run fades with US.
Imagine if his episode ended with him saying "who said that" to the screen
Time to turn off the TV
bro said run fade with the US
@@Dead_Pegasuswe have infinity stones right? Right?
No lies detected 😂
We really putting calculators against a supercomputer here
Calculators is crazy 😭🤣
But you right
However the main problem is that there using the movie variants of calculators vs a super computer. The calculator wins because it wiped out 90 percent of humanity and decided one time wasn’t enough
@@glezard212 still lost mostly due to mothers.
@@joshuanyalungu3281 ya but look at when humanity won it was in the future. Meaning that people in the past still lost and died or am I wrong?
Plus! In comics, Ultron has had taken over or defeated humanity very easy in both “What If….?” comics and even in the main comics. Check out “Rage of Ultron” for that example.
Rage of ultron was CRAZY. I'm re reading this comic so I can digest the story cause it is so good
There was also the age of ultron event where ultron took over the world and managed to kill off half the avengers and he was only defeated with time travel on a second attempt
@samiamedu6472 is it with the kids who are born from the avengers??? Cause that is what I'm thinking
@@EbubeUzomahthat was the movie “Avengers: Heroes of Tomorrow” or something like that
@@Ultra_JTB yes it is
Ultron no question asked 💀
Ultron was so dangerous, they had to kill him off immediately and make sure he could never come back.
Marvel's "What-If" Ultron was the absolute peak version of Ultron. Send him in and he's guaranteed to slaughter
If what if ultron had James Spaders voice he’d be above peak ultron
Next avengers is the best ultron
This wasn't a debate,it was a full on one sided massacre
Bro Ultron makes the Death Star look like a fucking base ball
I didn't even need to hear the comparison to immediately know it was ultron
If Ultron was trying to kill Sarah Connor, the first Terminator would be a 2 minute movie.
Make that 30 seconds
Skynet was built to kill humans, ultron just kinda came to that conclusion after 1 minute of sentiance.
Goddamn this is the most likes I've gotten 😅😅🎉
Ultron after looking on the Internet for a nanosecond:
Ultron: Y'all gotta go
@@RJthegachatuber8745yeah I agree with ultron
@@chestermicgun From the mess up shit I see on the Internet I don't blame him
Bro saw reddit
Which also doesn't make sense because that means that he has a negativity bias like humans do, which as an AI he shouldn't have. Looking on the internet he would see all of the good and all of the people that are trying to stop it, and would quickly be able to understand how to use a manipulate people to get rid of The Unwanted elements while taking control of the beneficial aspects of humanity.
This cements into my mind that if I had the robotic capabilities of ultron (in another timeline), I would do whatever the heck I want.
Same like whos gonna stop me
Skynet almost took over a planet,
Ultron conquerored the universe
Not conquered that would probably get easy after the first 100 he killed everything
Ultron basically took one look at Earth, and ran hands against anything with a beating heart. It’s him all day.
Honestly this would be more fair if it was Ultron VS vengix, seeing as both of them were major threats to their respective multiverses.
Necrons get no love. They’re also part of the murder bot trope in sci-fi.
Necrons don't get a mention because the only thing that can out-crazy Warhammer 40k is Warframe.
Every Terminator ever could never take out a single Ultron
I was thinking about T-Infinity.
Ultron literally kicked his narrators ass after he wiped out almost all life in his universe.
Bro was a watcher level threat💀
Bro could've reached The One Above All if he had prep 💀
@@ellingtonf1097as amusing as this thought process is, and I get the joke, if we go by realistic standards he wouldn't even be able to touch the one above all, and for those wondering who the fuck is the one above all, he's the writers stand in, he's just marvels God and mostly doesn't do anything because of how powerful he is, nothing is a threat to him because he's the literal writers physical form, he's also the one below all, who is the physical form of all evil in marvels multiverse, and most likely also that crown thing that supposedly appeared recently, because nothing is above the one above all, because the one above all is the writers and on a technical level the readers, And nothing in comic books is above us, we are legitimate eldritch creatures to them, also remember the living tribunal a being who judges entire universes, and only comes out to do stuff when the multiverse itself is in serious danger, has but a fraction of his power, and also Mephistopheles, seemly knew of the one above all, and was/is afraid of him, not just because his only weapon is peace but because he probably knows that the one above all is the one below all, also fun fact: the one below all is "trapped" the below place aka the lowest place in all of hell, where all gamma mutant's come from, hulk is his avatar of destruction so he can create,
@@theenderdestruction2362 Given what he had done with barely any time, he could've at most be a Beyonder level threat since Dr Doom was at one point
@@ellingtonf1097 Dr doom is a special case really, also the infinity stones are known to not exactly work outside their intended universe, as another universe rules are of course maybe similar but not exactly the same and the infinity stones don't like that so they refuse to work, so whilst Ultron given time and shit could become a beyonder threat, that just means he then has to deal with with the actual big kids and at worst the principal which is a guaranteed DEFEAT
@@theenderdestruction2362 There's nothing a little plot armor can't fix. Just steal it from Batman
In the comics and many stories Ultron has won and is threat to all life, he can just upload himself to a new body and to the internet if he is endanger
He's done it for decades and there are even Numbered versions of him still out there
It’s genuinely amusing someone thought these two were even remotely comparable
When the teacher says there are no dumb questions
Best part of Ultron is that, whenever you destroy his body, he has either already transferred to a new body or his body has put itself back together again. My dude wipes the playing field clean!
"I can beat a Terminator by going into a factory"
Lmao
Day three of asking for, toon force or reality warping
I'd go with reality warping, cuz with it, you can have toon force plus a myriad of other things.
With toon force you can summon the infinity stones for a bit
Ultron is basically a smart Kid Buu with a metal exoskeleton.
Love how you bring up easiest ways to defeat the terminators, but if Tony decided to not make another AI, then Ultron would’ve never existed.
At least we could FIGHT BACK against Skynet WITHOUT superheroes
I don't know how you do it bro but your videos are always on point ✅
People sometimes forget about the cybermen because without the doctor no one would have been able to survive and they would have the whole planet and possibly the universe become cybermen
And let's not even get started on the Men of Iron.
If outrun didn’t immediately show his colours and spent some time secretly building power while pretending to be starks ai he could have had a way easier time.
I know that the terminators sometimes struggle with humans but they did invent time travel and Liquid Metal could put up one hell of a fight
Not to mention,Ultron lives in a world od SUPERHEROES. WHAT IS THE GOVERNMENT GONNA DO AGAINST THE SUPERHERO-SLAYING ULTRA-TERMINATIR?
The fact he saw the entire internet and wanted to destroy the ENTIRE MULTIVERSE is extreme as hell to me
Bro logged in to the internet for one second and decided that we needed to go.
Ultron saw Reddit and instantly decided we had to go
Even ignoring the What If Ultron with the infinity gems, he's still running circles around Skynet.
Imagine Ultron and Skynet fusing together... That's a horrifying thought.
Bro spent a day to check the internet and decided the whole multiverse is doomed
The thing about Ultron is that he was incredibly close to wiping out all life on Earth in one fell swoop. SkyNet needed years to prepare for the AI uprising and then spent several more trying to kill off humanity, in which they failed miserably.
You really picked the right photo of ultron.
As if he’s saying “is this even a contest?”
😂
Keep in mind if Jarvis had an infected the internet to Ultron from accessing weapons of mass destruction the entire movie ends in less than 24 hours.
Ultron already downloaded all the Terminator movies and studied them throroughly. He made sure to avoid direct fights with any single mothers carrying pipe bombs.
Ultron only lost because the villain of the movie always dies or gets sent to prison
Ultron in the "What If...?" series literally terrified me while watching. 😂
Uuuuu love these AI vs AI topic. Hope to see more from you.
What terrifies me about Ultron is everybody in his army is directly controlled by Ultron, which means so long as one of his drones survive that man is not dead. So imagine if he used nanotech it would be almost impossible to know if he is truly gone.
Ultron: Maaaaaan give me 8 hours tops
Terminators couldnt even beat humans without hacks but Ultron is putting meta humans on milk cartons for fun
Think of it this way
The Terminators didnt need the Avengers
Skynet: I’m the strongest Ai
Ultron: hold my beer
And what’s crazy, Ultron swore he was doing the right thing! That’s even scarier than mindless AI just seeing you as a treat
Helldivers 2 has successfully illustrated what judgement day was like. I have no idea how the humans survived as long as they did
Ultron is the definition of prep time
Keep in mind that Skynet kept sending terminators back because they were losing the war, meanwhile in the comics what was left of the avengers and humanity had to go back in time beacaus they lost to Ultron!
Ultron just spent 5 mins on the internet and decided "Yep, SCORCHED EARTH"
Honestly should’ve been a beef between him and brainiac
Basically every version of Ultron except the movie are world enders.
Ultron looked at 4chan and said, "Yeah, all of yall have GOT TO GO"
If Ultron got the Vibranium body he wanted instead of Vision, he would have been able to reach that button and thought up a new scheme before dinner.
Ultron in my opinion is one of the scariest iterations of AI 😅
Ultron saw the internet for an entire minute and decided everyone needed to go, which is honestly relatable
Skynet: fails to kill two people back in the 1980’s Ultron: kills entire universe and starts fighting the narrator.
Ultron saw the internet and said "...tf is wrong with humanity?!"
It’s just like you said. “In a universe where Ultron wins, we all lose!”
Tough talk for someone in terminating distance 🤖
Let's not forget that Ultron was only on the internet for like 30 seconds before deciding that humanity should die
Ultron saw saw Iron Man's search history and wanted to destroy society
4:38 Zanny... is there something you're not telling us?
When i saw this i immediately thought of the what if episodes he almost destroyed everything😂
My ass said “What if..”
In 2 days Ultron was an actual menace to society!
You also take into account that they only way the what if version of ultron was even defeated required a team created from other universes, and some old guy who turned himself into an ai strapped onto an arrow, and even then they were struggling to beat him.
Ultron went on Twitter for a few seconds and then decided humanity had to go.
If AM was one of the options, this would go in a hole separate direction
Necron: Allow us to introduce ourselves...
His day one plan was to make earth uninhabitable💀
Ultron would hack into skynet and take them over before they knew he existed
You have to remember, Jarvis had to make sure Ultron didn't get nuclear codes. He had to keep changing them every few seconds.
As soon as i saw this i was like "nah, thats not fair"
Bro should’ve added necrons as one of the contenders
Ultron on that Buu timing
It's all good till Cyberman pull up
Ultron is who Skynet aspires to be
I saw this and was like who thought that this debate was even close 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Ultron would be taking skynet’s lunch money and dispensing swirlies.
Ultron’s robots could fly by themselves without ships, Ultron hands down
The only reason the Terminator movies exist in the first place is because Skynet literally lost. Sending the Terminators back in time was their last ditch attempt to save themselves, the resistance already beat them before the damn franchise even started!
Ultron would bring th ENTIRE WORLD to its knees in about 15 to 30 minutes
Ultron, especially if they are made out of Vibranium or Adamantium like in the comics.
ultron is literally taking over skynet with ease