THE HOBBIT: THE BATTLE OF THE FIVE ARMIES (2014) MOVIE REACTION - FIRST TIME WATCHING - REVIEW
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- Welcome to our first-time watching as we react to The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies (2014).
The heart-pounding conclusion to "The Hobbit" trilogy was filled with action, better visuals and a monumental final battle. It is always bittersweet to finish a series off but seeing Bilbo Baggins' journey was definitely worth it.
Directed by Peter Jackson, "The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies" picks up where the previous films left off, plunging us into the midst of the epic conflict for control of the Lonely Mountain and its vast treasures.\
More characters from "The Lord of the Rings" make an appearance here! We got to see Galadriel, Lord Elrond, Saruman and Gandalf finally confront the darkness that has been brewing all along and it's now revealed to us it was Sauron this entire time.
We hope that you enjoy our reactions, commentary and discussions as we delve into the film's themes and how it impacted the fantasy genre. How it's connection to the incredible "Lord of the Rings" trilogy made this such an enjoyable experience and how they continue to show the pure genius and innovation of J.R.R Tolkien who singlehandedly changed the landscape of what fantasy was as a genre and what could be achieved.
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I don't think i've ever waited for a video to drop more than this one dude! It was taking forever but now we're here 🎉 thanks a lot i always enjoy your reactions
TO answer one of your questions, in the books, Saruman had found a palantir when he first took residence at Isengard.. he hid it from the White COuncil, and eventually used it so much that Sauron noticed him and corrupted/cowed him.... tho in the books, unlike the movies, Saruman was trying to play both sides.. and hoping to get the Ring for himself to rule.
I saw you tried everything. Sorry for you guys. Honestly it would be time for an alternative platform...
Hallelujah!!!
@@InwardFocus Please don't. Nice Views but not a single thing from that Series is true according to the Lore.
Don't care what people say about these movies. To me, these movies are such a wild adventure.
Overall it's been an entertaining journey!
An unexpected journey 😂😂😂
Agreed. I love them. And I have to watch all three when also watching the LotR trilogy, otherwise it's not a "complete" watch for me.
I believe about 40% (if not less) of these movies are true to the book. I don't like certain truly over the top parts, like that golden statue thing but I agree fully from a quality entertainment perspective.
I love them. ❤
I wanna point out for a moment that Bilbo at one point had The Arkenstone, Mithril, and The One Ring all at the same time, which were widely considered the most valuable materials in Middle Earth. So, in a very real sense, Bilbo was the Master of Death. Wait wrong series lol
My thoughts exactly 😂😂😂😂
Hahaha that's facts 😂 Never occurred to us!
heheheheh, nice one
Yuk
the weapon (Wand-Ring), the armor (Cloak-Coat) and the stone
there are some similarity of course, you genius mate lol
The fact that Thorin knows he's dying and all that matters to him is apologizing to Bilbo and making sure he knows they're friends....ugh...makes me ugly cry every time I watch it lol
"Who is this person you pledged your services to? A Thorin Oakenshield."
"He...he was my friend."
@@MegaForrestgump omg that part too
It's even more sad in the book.
I like lord of the rings but I never felt this connection with the characters in that trilogy.
As to why the Dwarves had the White Gems of Lasgalen that belonged to Thranduil:
Thorins Grandfather, Thror, had heard of the Gems at some point in the Past, and that they belonged to Thranduils wife. Since the Relations between Dwarves and Elves were good at the time and one might consider them Friends, Thror offered to make Jewelry out of the Gems, befitting an Elven Queen. When asked what he wanted in exchange for this service, he wanted nothing and said this would be a Gift.
Thranduils wife never got to wear them, however, because she got killed at Gundabad. After that Thranduil went to Erebor to get the Gems of his wife, her most precious possession. Thror however changed his Mind in a complete asshole move and suddenly demanded a very, very hefty payment for the Gems.
Thranduil was understandibly furious since this wasn't what they agreed on and Thror tried to capitalize on Thranduils pain over his recently lost wife. Thror effectively robbed Thranduil and then demanded ransom.
Thranduil may seem like a coldhearted sob, but he was 100% justified, he always just wanted back what was his in the first place.
This! I was coming to say this when I saw your well worded explanation!
Thank you for the in-depth explanation! That explains a lot and gives the full perspective as to why he was behaving in such ways.
Yes! I really wish they had done a better job explaining this in the movies. There was so much other silly stuff they could have left out in order to incorporate more of Thranduil's story. It would've give more context to his "grumpy" character.
@@Meg0307
Yeah, there was a bunch of stuff they could've cut for that.
Especially when you mention that Elves basically mate for live, and they're immortal. Humans may move on and find love again (which is healthy, make no mistake), but for Elves they literally find their one soulmate and if they die, there is no new love after that, only rememberance of their lost love and grief (since when an elf dies, it is through violence), for eternity.
His wife was very fond of these Gems, so Thranduil became obsessed with them after her Death as the one thing to honor her memory, which sadly made him grow distant to his Son Legolas, who was the real thing his wife held most dear.
Thror really pulled the ultimate asshole move, worse he did it out of plain greed. At least Thorins actions can be excused due to Dragon sickness, Thror was just a greedy fella.
@@OfficialMediaKnights There's a deleted scene where Gandalf talks to Thranduil about the gems. It's just a few seconds, but explains a lot, and should've been in the movie.
If you guys want to see: czcams.com/video/H1589qbXUGo/video.html
21:00 Sadly Balin is the one who was dead in Fellowship within Moria. It was his grave Gimli was crying over just before the Orc and Troll attack within the chamber. Also dead with him within Moria was Oin (dwarf with the hearing horn) and Ori (young dwarf scribe with just the chin beard).
Да, и это именно со скелета Ори Гендальф взял книгу. Нос уж больно знакомый...
@@user-xx3gd4pm3yо русский. Думал я один тут смотрю англ реакции
@@wentyree2967 не один
"Bilbo and Balin later became good friends. Balin returns to Bag End to visit Bilbo after the main events in The Hobbit."
"In The Fellowship of the Ring, one of the Dwarves of Thorin's company, Glóin tells the Council of Elrond that Balin had left Erebor and ventured to reclaim Moria with a company of Dwarves including Óin and Ori (two of his companions from the Quest of Erebor), and Flói, Frár, Lóni, and Náli. The fate of Balin's colony was uncertain, as no word had come from Moria in many years. The Fellowship (which included Balin's cousin, Glóin's son Gimli) later happened upon Balin's tomb in the Chamber of Mazarbul, and learnt of his fate from the Dwarves' book of records, the Book of Mazarbul. It told how Balin discovered Durin's Axe, and established a small colony, but it was overrun by orcs and Balin was killed by an orc archer in Dimrill Dale. Thus he died in the same place as his father, having been self-proclaimed Lord of Moria for less than five years. Balin's tomb was inscribed "Balin Fundinul Uzbad Khazad-Dûmu", with smaller runes beneath giving the translation into English (as the representation of Tolkien’s invented language of Westron): "Balin, son of Fundin, Lord of Moria"."
And if I remember correctly Dwalin was one of the longest lived Dwarves, he died peacefully of old age after the events of The Lord of the Rings, I believe even outliving Aragorn
This was Ian Holm's final film as well as Christopher Lee's final live Action Role before they passed away in 2020 and 2015, respectively.
Especially for Lee, this is one hell of an epic note to go out on: *"Leave Sauron to me!"*
This was the last time I saw Sir Christopher Lee in films
Same. So bittersweet
It's also sad that Ian was not able to attend the get together that all the actors had on Zoom. I believe he passed a couple weeks after it was released.
Rest in Paradise for both of them.
RIP to both of them. I’ve always loved Christopher Lee. The next thing I saw Ian Holm in after LOTR was From Hell.
@@Dumbodwarf In the white shores and the far green green country
A heartbreaking thing about elves is that they basically mate for life. Once they've loved, there is no one else. Imagine being immortal and losing your one and only. And they can literally die of a broken heart
I wonder if you guys sat down until the very end of the ending song? It's sang by Pippin! It's title is "Last Goodbye". The very last line of the song is "I bid you a very fond farewell" which was also the last line of Bilbo's birthday speech in Fellowship.
It's also the last goodbye of the Peter Jackson adaptation and all the recurring actors from the original trilogy.
Elrond also has a ring of power, all three Elven Rings of Power were present at the fight, Narya (Ring of Fire) on Gandalf, Nenya (Ring of Water) on Galadriel, and Vilya (Ring of Air) on Elrond.
That was an epic fight!
Wait Gandalf had a ring of power?
@@jimmyabort8763 Yeah, he wears the ring of fire, Narya..If I remember right its the reason he has control of fire and light.
@@jimmyabort8763yes Gandalf has Narya, one of the Elven rings of power. Given to him by Círdan on his arrival at the Grey Havens. Knowing Gandalf's true nature and duty, he gave him Narya to aid him in his labours. Narya was described as having the power to inspire others to resist tyranny, domination and despair, as well as having the power (in common with the other Three Rings) to hide the wielder from remote observation (except by the wielder of the One) and giving resistance to the weariness of time. It is also thought to have magical properties and fire powers, as when fighting Durin's Bane, Gandalf claimed to wield the Flame of Anor.
it was also another reason for Sarumans envy of Gandalf, as he was super jelly that Cirdan gave the ring to Gandalf and not him. Cirdan was the oldest Elf in Middle Earth and wise enough to see Sarumans pride would be dangerous. He was one of the last Elves to leave Middle-earth, sailing West some time after the death of King Elessar in FO 120.
For those wondering. King Elessar is/was Aragorn. :)
Balin, the one who Bilbo said goodbye to first, was Bilbo's best friend among all the dwarves. He was the one who tried to take Moria back from the goblins just before the Lord of the Rings. it was his tomb where Frodo and company started the fight in Moria with the goblins and the cave troll. Of the thirteen dwarves, Oin and Ori also went with Balin to Moria. Ori is the one who wrote the last words of the survivors that Gandalf read just before Pippin knocked the armor down the well.
Galadriel's "I come for Mithrandir, and I will leave with him." gives me goosebumps every time.❤
I remember the first time I read The Hobbit as a kid it devastated me that Thorin, Fili and Kili died. I didn't understand why Tolkien would kill off all the main dwarf characters. When I realised the era the book was written it struck me that the trauma of The Great War must have affected his writing. The whole of Britain was grieving a lost generation of men of a certain age. It's so palpable.
Tolkien in his youth was part of a group of young writers.
The all went to serve in WWI. Tolkien was the only survivor.
I think it was his way to pay tribute to the fallen soldiers at the war, they died with honor... I was sad when Thorin died when I read the book but, the way Martin Freeman cried for him, ohh boy 😭 😭
@@ElaineHaygood actually he wasn't. They were mainly a group of 4, 2 died and he and another one named Christopher Wiseman (who he named one of his sons after) made it back after.
It wiped me out when Thorin, Fili, and Kili died.
Azog did say he would end the bloodline, and he did 😅 I think it was very fitting that these two said it felt more like a draw. I think it's respectable that Tolkien chose to kill these characters off. In too many stories characters are untouchable and if there's no fear of losing them, then the risk doesn't ever seem that high.
"I wonder what made him (Saruman) switch?" He was corrupted by the palantir (the orb). What the LOTR films got wrong was to not show that Denethor, the steward of Gondor, also had one - and was also corrupted. Anything with Sauron's energy in it will corrupt the corruptible - the dwarven kings, the Nine, Gollum, Boromir, Saruman, etc. It's the theme of the books (in TH, it's gold and arkenstone corrupts as well).
That's actually such a tragic thing - someone like Saruman, as powerful as he was, being corrupted just shows the immense power of the palantir!
@@OfficialMediaKnights I would also add that his hubris was his downfall too. He thought he could take on Sauron alone.
even frodo finish to fail .... in fact, gollum saved them all. Gandalf knew he was important. Thats why he let him follow them in the moria.
One correction: The Dwarves Lord didn’t fall to Sauron’s corruption.
They became vastly wealthy and that attracted the dragons
@@JamailvanWestering I was referring to the recipients of Sauron's rings in my first sentence - "Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone..."
Billy Connoly's Dain was such a treat for me personally. He is exactly how I have pictured dwarves since I first read about them.
The boy, Bain, was King of Dale after his father Bard passed. He died about 13 years before the War of the Ring, during which his son, Brand was ruling as King. Sadly, Brand as well as Dain II (son of the red-headed dwarf Lord in his movie) were killed during the war. It was his son, Bard II (named after this great grandfather) who became King and ruled under the protection of the King of the West Elessar (also known as Aragorn).
Um... I'm pretty sure this Dain is the same Dain that was ruling during the War of the Ring. He named his son after Thorin, not himself. Remember, dwarves are long lived, and I'm pretty sure Dain is younger than Thorin. If Bilbo lived to the War of the Ring, Dain certainly would too.
@@silversamurai0267 Yeah it's the same Dain. Dain II Ironfoot. I will point out that technically one of the reasons Bilbo lived to the War of the Ring is due to the Ring itself extending his life but yeah. Dain II lived to 252.
“why does it hurt so much” line by lily was amazing imo
And Thorin had this final redemption. Buried with the Arkenstone over the chest, and with his legendary sword Orcrist, the goblin-cleaver. In his farewell... I always cry. A true KING.
Thranduil is such a misunderstood character, especially in the movie. To be honest, the Dwarves did trespassed in the Mirkwood, Thranduil did his best to protect his people especially after the battles he faced. It was during the War of Wrath that winged dragons first and unexpectedly poured out of Thangorodrim to devastate the besiegers at Angband (Morgoth's fortress in the north). Thranduil would have only been about 35 years old when the greatest of these winged dragons (Ancalagon the Black) began his reign of terror. The dragon horde of Morgoth was unbeatable. In fact, it took the Valar themselves, sending the host of the Valar (including the Vanyar, Famari), joined by many Maiar and a mighty host of eagles, to defeat the dragons and seal Morgoth away.(undoubtedly the most monumental battle in the history of Arda) but the damage done was catastrophic, and the powers used during the conflict altered the face of the land, and eventually buried most of Beleriand under water.
While we don’t have a record of Thranduil actually being defaced by dragon fire, the War of Wrath lasts over four decades while Thranduil was still a young prince living in Doriath, so it's possible he could have faced many dragons during this time.
It is at least an appropriate cinematic reference to his actual history and perhaps gives a glimpse into why he became so damaged (emotionally as well as physically)
Thranduil does make another appearance during the Last Alliance, where two-thirds of his father’s forces (including Oropher, Thranduil’s father) are killed. He rallied his forces and helped defeat Sauron… but in the end leads back a broken army to the Green Wood. He resolves to isolate himself from the affairs of the world…
And maybe after facing all this horror… so would I.
Not to mention his wife was captured and taken to Angmar by orcs during the Angmar war. She died at Gundabad that’s why there’s no grave for her for them to grieve that’s why Thranduil was strict, he receded from the world, caring strongly to protect and preserve his realm, his family and his people.
In the book, Thranduil was actually reluctant to start a war over gold, it was only then when the Dain arrived the next day BEFORE the trade had been made for the Arkenstone, the Dwarves proceeded to attack.
(Also, There’s NO Tauriel in the books)
When Thorin died, Thranduil laid Orcrist on Thorin's tomb, where it was said to glow in warning when enemies approached.
Thranduil was most definitely a very powerful king. He ruled over the largest population of elves in Middle Earth and was considered their greatest king and mightiest warrior. Although he ruled Silvan elves, he himself, was a Sinda, who had lived in Doriath during the First Age. After the destruction of Doriath, he migrated with his father, Oropher, to Greenwood the Great where the Silvan elves made Oropher king. Thranduil became king after his father was killed in battle. Thranduil had no ring of power, so in that respect, he could be considered less powerful than Galadriel, Elrond or Cirdan, who had the aid of those rings. Thranduil was a superb strategist and very wise, making treaties and alliances which benefited his kingdom and those of his elven kin as well as men. He also possessed strong magical powers, as evidenced by his “magic doors” which no enemy could penetrate and the enchanted river which protected his realm. Furthermore, Tolkien states in Unfinished Tales in the Chapter “Of The Sindar” that those from Doriath were the fairest, wisest and most skilled of all the elves in Middle Earth and the closest to the Calaquendi, those elves of Aman (the Blessed Realm) because they lived under the influence of Melian, the Maia. Thranduil also was instrumental in the defeat of Sauron, defeating his forces when they attacked Mirkwood and tying up Sauron’s resources in the North, helping to ensure his ultimate defeat. Since Thranduil accomplished all of this without a ring of power, using only his wisdom to strategize and his abilities to build alliances, one could consider him more powerful than the others when viewed simply on his own merits.
(I’m sorry I know I’ve been redundant about him being King after his father died because I cannot stress enough that he became king at a young age in even in Elven standards and it was literally after the battle where his father died, Thranduil going home with only two thirds of his people who survived, including him.)
Wow I'm impressed and amazed. Thranduil is my favorite character and I didn't know much about his early life. We have to accept the fact that to be a good king you have to take care of your people first. Everyone talks about how he didn't help Thorin with Smaug, I think he just knew they wouldn't defeat the dragon and he would just waste his people's lives. In the last film, however, we can see how he, although he does not like dwarves, helps in the battle, again sacrificing the lives of his people. All this he does because of the white gems that were taken from him. This is the last memory of his wife, if we don't count Legolas, as Gandalf said. Overall, for me Thranduil is the best character in The Hobbit
@@DesiBorcheva Exactly, I love him and he’s also my favourite character too. After all the things he went through, I understand why he wants to preserve his people and realm. The fact that Mirkwood is also affected by Sauron, but single handedly fixed the southern boundary after Sauron’s defeat. I wholeheartedly understand his emotional and physical exhaustion even as an Elven king. He managed to make his realm flourished till the fourth age.
@@Xela07727 You are absolutely right. I understand how he feels too. He lost the woman he loved, and then Legolas left him. He had no one left. However, people still call him selfish. I would just like to hug him.
I also want to say about Lee's admirable acting, he played Thranduil more than brilliantly.
@@DesiBorcheva Right?! Ugh! I feel for him too. It didn’t really specified If Thranduil did sail to the Undying Lands after Legolas going to Valinor with Gimli but imagine If he did stay in Middle-Earth to keep governing his realm alone, OH! It’s heartbreaking.
I agree, Lee Pace did a brilliant job portraying him in the flesh. I fell in love with him the moment I laid my eyes before him 🫣 But I love Thranduil the character himself way before Lee Pace, I promise 👀 not that I won’t admit that Lee Pace is terrifyingly attractive, quite a specimen I must say 😮💨
@@Xela07727 I admit that I fell in love with Thranduil first. There can't be someone so beautiful. As far as I know there is a theory (for people asking where is Thranduil in Lord of the Rings) that an army of orcs was sent to Mirkwood and Thranduil was supposed to defend his kingdom. So I guess he's left alone
26:26 "We're missing 1."
You guys should know by now, Legolas is the fifth army. 😂
Nah it’s Beorn
LOL... although there is no overall consensus on what the fifth army actually is. In the book it is suggested that the Wargs (wolves) were the fifth army, but both this adaptation and the Rankin-Bass animated version suggest it's the Eagles (plus Beorn and whatever other animals Radagast managed to round up).
@@GeoffTrowbridge I just finished reading the book again, and that made me think that it was the Eagles, since there was a "the Eagles are coming" moment, but what you mention about the Wargs makes sense as well, since the Wargs are more like allies than mounts in the book.
@@GeoffTrowbridge I never thought it was the wargs. I always assumed it was the eagles from the moment I read the book.
@@nathanielreik6617 In the book it says:
“So began a battle that none had expected; and it was called the Battle of Five Armies, and it was very terrible. Upon one side were the Goblins and the Wild Wolves, and upon the other were Elves and Men and Dwarves.”
But again, all of the adaptations suggest it’s the Eagles (plus Beorn and other animals), which admittedly makes a lot more sense.
Just to be clear Thranduils wife died thats why he almost doesnt feel love anymore, the white gems that he wants from dwarfs were his wifes thats why he didnt come to help dwarfs from Smaug when he attacked and thats why he risks a war for them, he is a broken man inside but in the end he is good❤
One thing I love about this battle is that as soon as the orcs show up, everybody else immediately stops fighting each other and teams up to fight them.
Elves and dwarves have a deep-seated hatred for orcs as they've had a long history of battles and s*** with orcs.
like Beorn says, they don't like dwarves, but Orcs ? they hate it more !
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This was Sir Christopher Lee's final performance before he passed away, and he did an excellent job
Saruman wasn't actually serving Sauron, but he was serving himself. He had planned to use the Ring to depose Sauron and rule Middle Earth himself.
His hungriness for power allowed things to go too far!
Nope. He thought the One Ring was destroyed at this point. You're way ahead of the story. Saruman didn't fully turn until he heard the One Ring still existed, some 60 years later.
@@magicbrownie1357 No, Saruman knew that the Ring survived.
Long before the events of the Hobbit, he'd already begun to harbour designs on setting himself up as the next Dark Lord.
@@Murdo2112not according to Lee himself.
Lee himself stated that when Saruman says “leave Sauron to me” he meant it.
This happened probably in the intermediate time between The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. In total there’s like 77 years that takes place between the end of The Hobbit and when Frodo leaves Bag End.
@@Murdo2112 He believed it was still in the Gladden Fields area, he didn't KNOW it was found until Gandalf confirmed it. Thinking or believing is not the same as knowing.
I loooved the movies! The fact that "The Hobbit" was written originally for children meant that they had A LOT of gaps to fill and could improvise a little bit with the story and tbh they did a great job. The "newness" and familiarity of the characters and the world felt organic and natural. I loved it❤
I saw BOTFA in theater when it came out. When Billy Boyd's voice sang out, bidding us all 'a very fond farewell', it hit me hard: there would be no more stories, no more movies. I wept without shame as the final credits rolled.
Yes, I know there was studio interference, lore-bending (to put it nicely), and lots of CGI romping all over. But for all of it, it's part of our mythos and deserves to be enjoyed.
“Farewell, Master Burglar. Go back to your books, and your armchair. Plant your trees, watch them grow. If more people valued home above gold, this world would be a merrier place.” - Thorin Oakenshield..... that line from Thorin before his final breath, always gets me
Galadriel is one of the oldest Elves in Middle-Earth, older than the sun and the moon. She carries the light of Earendil and a ring of power. Of course she is incredibly powerful 😅
Very True I wonder if they will Watch The Ring of Power to revisit this realm and more back story.
@JS-cz2to Rings Of Power is trash. I wouldn't subject my worst enemy to that torment lol
@@MFZ0dd Ohmygod every comment you've made on these videos is SO negative. Go be negative elsewhere. It is not that bad. Jfc
@@Orion_TheyThem, LOL. Some of ROP really is that bad, but I love Elrond and Durin’s friendship. Really, about the only thing that makes me want to punch the TV is Galadriel.
@@Orion_TheyThem its terrible
Despite its flaws, I still appreciate this Hobbit Trilogy for the good things it gave us. The bar was set impossibly high by LOTR and the Hobbit book is a very different story in tone, let alone written before Tolkien wrote LOTR. It's obvious the studio mandated or heavily influenced certain things like the three film length and tie ins to LOTR. Some of that to its benefit, some of that to its detriment. Overall though, I really like these Hobbit films. They are a fun adventure that have moments of brilliance.
Way to go Denise ❤ I’ve watched this movie about 10 times and didn’t notice that Lady Galadriel was using the Light of Eärendil against Sauron. 😊
Haha thank youu, it took me a second to distinguish the shape but it clicked eventually!
@@OfficialMediaKnights She was using her powers from her Ring and from the Light to banish the Nazgul and banish Sauron.
The problem with these movies is that theyre always compared to the original trilogy. The movies are great, but of course they could never approach the originals.
in the same way that while the hobbit is a great book, it cannot be compared to the trilogy of the ring books.
Nah, The acting is way better in the hobbit. The character In Lotr feels more generic and one dimensional the choreography is also better in the hobbit. But when it comes to storyline, well that's a matter of taste and preference
Fair enough. Enjoy them for what they are. To be fair, I’ve reread LOTR a lot more than I’ve reread the Hobbit.
Especially they did dirty to beorn where his gigantic size of a bear who demolish the entire army himself because he piss off they disrespectful thorin badly
Out of ALL the actors and producers of the LotR/Hobbit trilogy Christopher Lee was the only one who actually met J.R.R.Tolkine in honor of serving in WW2. Tolkien (Along with his BFF, C.S. Lewis) served in WW1.
He was also a huge fan of the series and reread them every year. Apparently he was pissed that he didn’t have a bigger part in Return of the King but stuck around as an unofficial consultant/expert on the lore
I love Billy Connolly as Dain Ironfoot, Perfect casting to play such a fiery character. Also would love to see you react to the BTS clips from the hobbit trillogy some good like Benedict Cumberbatch recording for Smaug and Billy making everyone laugh while gettting ready for dain
Like Thorin's actor was trying to act out as intimidating as possible in the barrel-river segment while Kili's actor is behind him having the time of his life lol
Whoever cast Martin Freeman as Bilbo needs a freakin medal
The old white-haired dwarf is Balin, whose coffin we see in Moria in Fellowship of the Ring, the red-haired dwarf stingy with money is Gloin, Gimli's father. The young dwarf with the slingshot weapon is Ori, whose skeleton holds a book, next to Balin's coffin.
Galadriel when the armies of mordor attack middle earth: O_o
Galadriel when a single orc threatens Gandalf: *Vaporizes everything within a million mile radius*
Your discussion about character deaths made me think about Boromir in LOTR. He died in the very first movie, he was one of the many characters that were introduced, and the time we spent with his character wasn't that much. But still the scenes that were given to him were so great at building his character, his fear and love for his people, and the role he played in the journey with Fellowship. And that's why his death hit harder, not only because he died but also how his death affected others moving forward.
Btw, Earendil is Elrond's father. :) He had two twin sons, Elrond and Elros. Elrond became an elf, and Elros had become the first king of Numenor, whose direct descendants were Elendil and Aragorn.
You saying this one was the weakest of them three, but should i tell you, in the "Hobbits tale, or there and back again" or the book, this battle wasn't written. Bilbo took a beating, go unconscious, and when he wakes up, battle is over. So this movie shouldnt even be here. But I'm grateful it is
The fight scene in Dol Guldor is awesome! We get to see Galadriel, Elrond, and Saurman fight and we get to see how strong they are
Finally, i saw your struggles uploading this one so i'm happy that you manage to do it, yt is finicky every damn time, but yea Smaug destroying lake town is one of the highlights of this film being the first big destruction scene. my mom is currently watching this, and enjoying it! 😅
Thank you so much for your support and patience, it truly means sooo much to us! Also so glad your mom is enjoying it haha that's awesome!
An emotional detail of Thorin's funeral is the sword of Ocris at his side, which King Trandhuil placed so that it could be buried with him and as a symbol of friendship between the kingdoms.
Billy Boyd had a performance at the end of this film...it's so bittersweet but all these films are amazing. Seeing them all in theaters was such an experience.
Lee Pace (Thranduil) hoped they wouldn't touch his eyebrows for this roll. What they did was just tap the end part of them to lift them up a bit. In the end, it looked pretty good. He also enjoyed playing this role. He is also playing Ronan the accuser in Guardians of the Galaxy and Captain Marvel
Key Point: Realize that LOTR's was written as three individual books. The Hobbit is only one book, and its 40 pages shorter then the shortest LOTR'S (the two towers).
LOTR'S had 3 movies made, oneofr each book.
The Hobbit had 3 movies made about the shortest book of that story.
casually scrolling and then ... o hey its bilbo bagg O ITS THE 5 ARMIES REACTION!!!
Woohoo!! 🤘 I am one of the blessed who has seen ALL The Lord of the Rings movies and Hobbit movies in the cinemas on the release days and had to wait between films to till they were released.. it was hell, but totally worth it.. I absolutely LOVE them ALL.. ❤
Haha that's so awesome, though the waiting thing is definitely torture 😂
I took PL from work to see LOTR on opening nights. I might have seen the Hobbit on opening nights. Even though I’d read the books, the year wait sucked. At least it wasn’t the 3- yr wait of Star Wars.
literally just came for work and wondered if its up on youtube now (saw it yesterday on patreon) and wow, im so early, fresh after upload and i can watch u guys, so happy!
Haha that's perfect timing! Hope you enjoy our reaction, thank you so much for your support!
The white council sequence alone is the pinnacle of this trilogy. You could say everything else about the rest but that sequence is perfect!!!. You guys are the MVP of reactors! 🎉❤
It's a decent series, with the great costumes, the lore building familiar characters.. it's certainly in the same vein as Lord of the rings. And when you take it as what it was meant to be a children's story, the did a pretty good job with it. They added a lot of filler sure, but for what it is/was meant to be it's pretty good series.
A lot of people though will consciously or subconsciously compare it to LOTR, and that really isnt a fair comparison. LOTR is epic in many ways and many levels.
As long as you understand they difference and they really aren't comparable at all despite being in the same vein it's very possible to enjoy both of them for what they were intended to be.
This being said you can also tell on rewatches how more hurried in production The Hobbit was in comparision to LOTR.
Couldn’t agree more with your assessment. Overall it’s been a pleasant experience and a fun ride to see Bilbo’s journey.
Rest in peace, Sir Ian Holm (bilbo baggins) and Christopher Lee (Saruman) actors 🙏
Bard: "You would go to war over jewelry!?"
Thranduil: "Been there, done that..."
Regarding Saruman's 'switch': he became "proud and impatient and enamoured of power" (Unfinished Tales) => "Sauron, through lies and sheer force of will, made the White Wizard his vassal" (WETA statues), thus "Saruman fell under the domination of Sauron and desired his victory or no longer opposed it" (Unfinished Tales) In the years up to the War of the Ring "Saruman was mustering [at Isengard] a great force for the service of his new master" (The Treason of Isengard) but "even as he did his new master’s bidding, the corrupted Wizard plotted a second betrayal" (WETA statues) - if he could have wielded the Ring's power he would have tried to take Sauron's crown for himself. Basically, Saruman was brought low by his pride and greed - he lusted for dominion and he saw two ways to achieve it: be Sauron's right-hand, or usurp Sauron's place as Lord of the Rings and Middle-earth. He was a true traitor: he had betrayed Free Folk and would have betrayed his new master given the chance. Ultimately though, he was "little more than the Dark Lord's puppet, acting out his will" (TLotR: Weapons and Warfare). Sorry for the long answer - liked your reactions to the MIDDLE-EARTH series!!
This was the final sendoff of Christopher Lee. He said he portrayed it as this being the moment where Saruman finally decided that the side of good was weak and the only way to survive was to join with Sauron.
"Why do the dwarves have it?" Most likely, Thror(Thorins grandfather)stole them. A deleted scene reveals that the gems were the last heirloom of his wife, who died in Angmar, which is why he's so desperate to get them back, even willing to go to war to retrieve them. I believe this scene should have been included, but you can find it unfinished on youtube.
33:50 Gloin wears the helmet that his son Gimli one day wears.
Love the twirlie whirlies. The elves great accuracy made obsolete.
One of the things I think is an amazing piece of storytelling is that Legolas took Orcrist from Thorin because it was an elvish heirloom. However, he was unskilled at using it and, while he managed to take out a few weak orcs with it, he was totally outmatched by a skilled warrior like Bolg. However, when he finally gives it to Thorin and goes back to his daggers, he easily ends Bolg.
Some people question why Thorin moved the sword and let Azog stab him. However, it was clear that Azog's strength would have lead to him overpowering Thorin either way. Thorin knew it and he did the only thing he could to kill the Defiler once and for all.
If you want more Peter Jackson, check out the live-action remake he did of King Kong. It also stars Andy Serkis.
We will!
I cant hide Tears everytime the Dwarfen Army are yelling Commands or charging. Fricking Elite.
The song during the credits was sung by Billy Boyd (Pippen) and is called The Last Goodbye. Probably my favorite bit of Lord of the Rings music.
The main problem with these movies is that they're full of stuff that isn't in the book. Azog, Tauriel and Legolas and the love triangle, etc. Coupled with the over-reliance on CGI instead of practical effects and the noticeably more video-game/cartoon-like action sequences, it all results in a markedly different experience from the original trilogy even if we ignore that both stories have a very different tone anyway. I think the cast did an awesome job and it's the main strength of this trilogy, but the story and pacing doesn't really work because too much stuff was added without being sufficiently developed for the audience to genuinely care.
Way too often it feels like the logic tends to be, "You liked Legolas surfing on a shield while he shoots orcs with his bow? Well, here's Legolas hanging upside down from a bat beheading a dozen orcs? You liked Aragorn and Arwen trying to heal Frodo after he was stabbed by the Witch King? Here's Tauriel trying to heal Kili the exact same way after he was shot by a magic arrow that had the exact same powers as the Witch King's dagger, except it was carried by a random orc for some reason." I don't hate them, but man, they're such a step down from the Lord of the Rings.
My thoughts exactly. I like them but don't love them, and don't feel the same urge to rewatch them twice a year like I do with LOTR 😂 Totally agree with all your points. Still, they are better than 99% of stuff coming out nowadays.
@@MFZ0dd Yeah, I still like them and I'm not as critical of them as some people, but I can't help but imagine what could have been if they'd approached them the same way they did when they made LOTR.
Same. It feels like it suffered from too much filler. (Also dislike the forced love triangle because I'm pretty sure Tauriel's actress said she would do the film if there wasn't a love triangle...and then they gave her a love triangle-) That's probably why it kind of fell flat too, since so many characters were created from nothing and then were just kind of....there.
....I did keep thinking while watching this that it would make such a cool game tho. Like if I had to fight out some of those sequences on my own. But that would also change things since then I think I'd be more ok with filler/outlandish/drawn out fight sequences since in a game, I would expect more combat from a gameplay perspective.
@@SatChiibz Maybe it would be best to learn the actual definiton of a love triangle? Legolas was third wheeling the entire time and Tauriel was not interested in him at all, so there is no freakin love triangle!!
If only Thorin had you two bravehearts his quest would have been completed with a pet dragon and a mountain full of gold. Bravo Media Knights, can't stop drooling and falling in love with your channel over and over again. :)
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1:03:56 Bilbo's line here gets me just as much as Aragorn saying "My friends. You bow to NO ONE."
let's watch before get banned. not funny
It's messed up but it's a little funny 😂
@@OfficialMediaKnights been waiting all week thanks for the entertainment laddies 🫡
I had the exact same thought
Seeing how Galadriel caused that orc to disintegrate, showed her awesome power. That's why for me, it was such a let-down for the Prime series to re-invent her as a sword wielding warrior. She doesn't need to fight you physically, one look and you're gone!
34:56 sneaked in a reference - “Ecthelion of Gondor” was the father of Denethor and grandfather of Boromir and Faramir.
Remember “Nobody Trust An Elf!”? Fuller story With a certain clan of dwarves: A giant set of events throughout the ages caused a huge rift between dwarves & elves since before any elf saw actual Dwarves. Elves are the firstborn.
Men are the secondborn. Dwarvish forefathers were created by the hands of one of the Valar named Aulë,
then essentially Eru Îlluvatar(AllFather) breathed life into them to later wake up at a later point in a future era since Aulë was still excited to create things of his very own. It’s also why dwarves overall can resist the rings power and so forth.
There were these beings became known as Petty Dwarves in the books where these beings were super hostile and the elves thought it was just another spawn of Melkor (now Morgoth) so when they finally did see actual dwarves they killed them on site.
Back then they thought these “petty dwarves” as we call them to be other machinations of Morgoth seeing as how he and Mairon>Gorthaur>Sauron have been terrorizing the land and permeating shadows living nightmares throughout the land for thousands of years….
That and dwarves were keen on chopping down trees by huge amounts so you can kind of see why… but this was only the beginning.
But it’s not a very good start. Buuut not all dwarvish clans share this rift as the creator of the 16 rings was an elf named Celebrimbor and is one of the best characters ever. His main smithery guild in Eregion was full of dwarves and elves called the “Gwaith Ír Mirdain”. Even Gimli’s father was really close to a certain elf I won’t name yet! ❤
Not all dwarves were enemies to elves. Galadriel and her brother were best friends with dwarves. Famously the fortress of Nargothrond was built by Finrod Felagund with the dwarves! It was only a certain clan that killed Elu Thingol! (Elwë)
Galadriel & her elder brother Finrod Felagund were best friends with the dwarves. Finrod was named Felagund by the dwarves meaning “Earth Hewer” from the fact he helped them build the great fortress called Nargothrond of which he was the elven lord that ruled there justly. Was the same for Celebrimbor and the dwarves of Eregion especially the guild called Gwaith Í Mirdain.
His bestie was Narvi the dwarf. Narvi and Celebrimbor created the doors of Moria. Moria is also the elvish name for Khazad Dûm. Moria was by other elves who might have snuck in a tiny insult because Moria means black pit. However Celebrimbor and Galadriel both call it what the dwarves call it; which is Khazad Dûm!
This gift for Gimli set it into imperishable Crystal and would be the only thing left in middle earth that holds the light of the two trees of Valinor (Valanor by the Eldar). It’s basically the uncursed version of the Nauglamir. He named it The Galadramir. ❤
If you search for
'victorian hair art' then you can see what amazing things people created with hair in the past. Craftsmen as dwarfs were, I imagine that Gimli must have created something beyond exquisite!
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Gimli attacking the ring shows it has no hold over him just like the Dwarvish rings out of the 16 meant to go to the elves had no hold over them. So technically they could easily be used offensively and defensively but many disappeared over the ages mainly due to Sauron collecting them back again over the last few thousand years. One or two eaten by dragons (not simple minded beasts here. They were twisted and enhanced beings by Melkor/Morgoth(Saurons Upperclassman as far as the Ainur face goes.).
There were only a few of them and their offspring are lesser drakes throughout middle earth. Most recent one you’ll see in The Hobbit movie and one other most recent dragon left of the originally created dragons was Scatha, of which I don’t think Scatha even has wings or could fly in any permanent sort of way.
“Evil cannot create. Only twist and warp what is already natural to the world”
It is established that elves may only die by violence or a broken heart. I think it is a missed opportunity not to have Tauriel die from sorrow. I think that would have been a poignant and powerful way to bookend her character arc and perhaps lend some context for how Legolas behaves toward Gimli in Fellowship of the Ring.
Peter jackson is apparently doing the silmarillion so back to middle earth for the first age!
"I love these characters, every single one of them."
oh you're gonna LOVE this one then (laughing maniacally)
When we finally see Dwalin, the gruffest and least sympathetic dwarf come to tears in front of Thorin, it's a hard moment.
Edit: Love how they end the film with the map, sitting exactly where it was when Gandalf enters, sees it, and picks it up in the beginning of Rings. While the 2nd film is the strongest, I have become quite attached to the first as we are introduced to the Dwarves and the journey's beginning. Concerning Erebor's value to the Orcs - Purely strategic. Only a Dragon was able to root the dwarves from it and if the Orcs were able to gain control - same thing. They would have a completely defendable stronghold from which to exert power and occupy surrounding lands.
In the Hobbit book, most of the dwarves of the party were not given any development or personalities. Jackson and his team had to create them for the films and I think with the time allotted they did a fine job. Remember, the Hobbit films had more than twice the number of characters to give screen time to compared to the Lord of the Rings trilogy. So no doubt much harder to give time too. Also worth noting is that the actor who played Fili originally had to be replaced, so that may have played a part in some limits in his character development.
It is amazing how the elven king is a good father and king and have a point and they make him seem bad... NO HE IS NOT
Unlike the movies, that made us wait an entire year for the sequel, The Media Knights deliver their unique reactions to a series in a timely manner. I appreciate that you guys do this and don't leave your fans hanging, wondering when the next reaction within a series is coming. I really do hope that you react to American History X, and Primal Fear
I'm supposed to be cleaning and was putting CZcams on for background noise. Then I saw this and planted myself in my chair. I love the Hobbit trilogy and have watched all 3 so many times. I'm so happy to see how much the 2 of you enjoyed them as well. I can understand why people spoke out against this one because they took 1 shorter book and made 3 long movies, and they didn't follow it quite as closely as they did the Lord od the Rings.
To give context to time frames between movies, Bilbo was 50 at the start of this series, 111 at the start of LotR, and Frodo was 33. Frodo left on his journey when he was 50, so Bilbo was 128.
Yay! Let's hope it stays up this time lol
Poor choice of words.
Ahahah it's been a journey but we made it!!
We shall see, @@V0ltron
@OfficialMediaKnights Also, before I found your channel, WhiteNoiseReacts was my favorite reaction channel until it unfortunately ended. You two are my favorite reactors now out of everyone I watch. Please keep doing what you're doing. :)
@@GMDTurbo I was just kidding.. you know the Joker line..I forgot the quotes. ;) my bad.
I have just seen an estimate that claims that 10 US billionaires are richer than Smaug on his mountain of gold. Smaug only had 90 billion dollars worth of gold.
Smaug doesn‘t just have gold…he has uncounted diamonds and elven jewels that are literally beyond a price.
36:07 Billy Connolly. not only riding a pig, but literally is also an absolute GOAT. he reminds me of my grandad cuz he sounds exactly like he did. i couldnt find any footage of gramps, but he was a UK football manager for Plymouth Argyle in the late 80's and his scottish accent was just like Billy's
If you paused at 14:44 the ring on Gandalf's finger is Narya ( Ring of Fire) ,originally worn by Cirdan, while Nenya ( Ring of Water) is always belong to Galadriel. While Vilya ( Ring of Air) is worn by Elrond, which originally worn by Gil Galad then given to Elrond. The three Elven Rings created by Master Elven Smith Celebrimbor and these was crafted in secret so they are not corrupted by Sauron like the other rings ( the ones to men and dwarves). However the three elven rings are somehow still bound to it because Celebrimbor did create the three rings using the knowledge that Sauron ( disguised as Annatar) taught Him. In the Silmarillion Sauron was a student of one of the Valar, the Vala Aule who taught him great smithing and craftsman.
I kind of ragged on the Hobbit movies when they came out, but they are actually pretty okay. Full of some crazy moments
They are a great prequel
@@Francisco-ow6blI disagree, they feel like a completely different universe since nothing feels real or grounded
Sometimes I wish Peter Jackson could make another stand alone movies during the period of war of the ring, we know in LoTR during the Return of the King, the combined forces of men of Gondor and Rohan fought Sauron's armies from Mordor in Pelennor fields but do you know that, in the northern part of Middle Earth another battles took place as well. like the Battle of Dale and Battle of Dol Guldur.
WIth Battle of Dale, we could see once again a much older King of Erebor , Dain Ironfoot ( Thorin's cousin) together with King Brand and men of dale, who is the grand son of Bard the Bowmen ( the guy who slain dragon smaug), it would be great to see the battle, of them defending their homeland as Sauron forces also sent a huge host of Easterlings to attack the north. The battle lasted for days, and King Brand and Dain Ironfoot fought valiantly though they died at the end, and they were almost lost but then the news of the victory from the south came in, where Gondor and Rohan were able to defeat the Mordor armies, that news really caused the easterlings to lose morale and this has made a morale boost for the dwarves and men to push back the enemies off their land
With Battle of Dol Guldur, we could see also again a combined forces of Elves of Lothlorien led by Galadriel and Celeborn together with the Sylvan Elves from the Woodland realm of Mirkwood led by King Thranduil where they attack and defeated Sauron's remaining forces there.
This is also the reason why when we watch LoTR Return of The King (extended version) there is line if i am not mistaken spoken by Legolas to Gimli where he said the dwarves are not coming as they are defending their own land.
In the book it's also said:
"Yes, you have it,’ said Gimli. "The Lady of the Wood! She read many hearts and desires. Now why did not we wish for some of our own kinsfolk, Legolas?" Legolas stood before the gate and turned his bright eyes the passing of the grey company away north and east, and his fair face was troubled. "I do not think that any would come," he answered. "They have no need to ride to war; war already marches on their own lands."
Thats my wish lol, though I don't know if these will ever happen in my life time, it would be nice though, to see on big screen and to see some of the same actors/characters return back to these films.
oh please I would love that if they are made into stand alone movies...just thinking about Battle of Dale, it will be just as epic as the battle in pelennor fields. Can you imagine King Dain fighting to his last breath though he was much older than what we see in Hobbit - Battle of Five Armies. In the book, he fought side by side with King Brand defending the gates for three days . King Brand was killed and King Dain stood over his body and try to defending it while wielding his axe until he too was slain. he was a badass dwarf.
@@krisanresa9675 yeah he's badass, and the fact that King Dain and King Brand fought the Easterlings , after Dain rejected Sauron's offer of alliance. That's why Sauron decided to use brute force by sending a massive host of Easterlings from the East. The Dwarves of Erebor and Men of Dale were hugely outnumbered against the Easterlings
@@roselynveren5022 and to see that hope kindled when they heard good news from the south that Mordor had lost to Gondor & Rohan in the south, which brought, Dain's son Thorin III stonehelm, to rally his remaining troops to come out from Gates of Erebor together with men of Dale and their new leader Bard II ( King brand's son) after they are being besieged for days, to push the already routed and scrambled Easterlings out from their land.
yeah in the LoTR Appendix about Durin's folk, Gandalf says this line:
"When you think of the great Battle of the Pelennor, do not forget the battles in Dale and the valour of Durin's Folk. Think of what might have been. Dragon-fire and savage swords in Eriador! There might be no Queen in Gondor.
I really appreciate and look forward to the straight-forwardness of your movie breakdowns! Not every film is a success in every aspect of its creation, and as someone who had studied film and film criticism I love how your channel brings me back to my college/uni days of sitting and discussing movies with other people who speak the language of film/film criticism. Your approach is so different from most other reactors and I love hearing your insights, advice, what did/didn't work for you (and why). It's also why I wish to see+hear your thoughts on The Rings of Power series, because while it isn't perfect, it does get some things right that The Hobbit didn't.
To me, it feels MUCH closer in quality to LOTR than The Hobbit in terms of world-building, practical effects, and nuance in plot/character, but I think it got short shrifted because it came out around the same time as Game of Thrones' House of Dragon series which it was often compared to. I hope you guys consider staying in the world of Middle Earth for just a wee bit longer! I really would love to hear your thoughts and opinions, it would make for a fascinating discussion on what did or didn't work, and why.
This was a tough story to turn into a film trilogy, because it was simply a children's book. They created lots of characters and situations that needed fleshing out that weren't really even in the story in the first place. The earlier animated version for TV adapted the whole book (albeit a bit more rushed) in 90 minutes.
In the book, the dwarves are not hunted by "Azog", but are simply going from misadventure to misadventure. Gandalf himself doesn't even take too much of this seriously, and simply disappears from time to time because he's not really part of the quest. He only shows up every so often to check up on their progress. As Ian McKellan/Gandalf said to Frodo in Fellowship of the Rings, he was barely involved, and only gave Bilbo a nudge out the door.
Some of the high points were part of the book: the wild party at Bag End, the three trolls turned to stone, Elrond reading the map, and riddles in the dark with Gollum. Some simple events were cranked up, like the barrel ride: in the book, Bilbo arranges the escape, but there was no chase or battle. Many LOTR characters that returned (particularly Legolas) were simply added fan service.
Even though it was a children's book, Tolkien made clear that war costs lives. It wasn't so much about the loss of this or that particular dwarf, but the fact that many of Bilbo's friends died. It was this loss that prompted Thorin to speak his final words to Bilbo.
Critics look for thing that aren't there. These movies are old school entertainment that I grew up with. That's what movies are supposed to do. Take us away from reality for a little while. ❤
I'm old enough to remember when YT was cool. Now I'm still here because there's no options.
Eh, old days had annoying stuff too. When people would “video reply” as comments oof
@@SwiddyDiddy Yes, the era of the Reply Girls.
Old YT I remember as music videos, homemade videos, gameplay videos, pet's-horror videos.
Overall the internet was cooler back then. No Facebook, everything was Yahoo, excite, or myspace. Different time.
I’m so happy! I’ll be watching this as soon as I get home! Thanks for the hard work getting this up!! You guys are awesome
Saruman and Sauron were both friends in the spirit world before they came to middle earth. Both studied ringcraft with Aulé the Smith. Saruman looked for the One Ring for millennia. He also used the palantir of Orthanc a lot.
All of this affected him to the point he tried to ally with Sauron. His story is complicated :)
Watch 'King Kong' (2005) by Peter Jackson. It's amazing movie!
It's on our list!!
All of the Tolkien books had very short action sequences, and many of the sequences in the movies didn't even happen in the books and when they did they were exaggerated in the films. Of course in fantasy movies you expect action sequences, so it's understandable they were included. However, in doing so, they diluted a lot of the plot and character development, especially in the Hobbit where the source material was only one short book, even if you add the LotR appendices that included information about stuff such as what happened at Dol Guldur. The books sort of treat the action as if it were summarized rather than being shown in detail, and that was intentional as Tolkien having been in war himself didn't want to glorify war. It was more the resolve to stand against evil even in the face of certain death, not the glory of battle or the seeking of vengeance that he wanted to show, in which battle is merely a necessity. To quote Tolkien, “I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend.”
Haven’t started yet but wanted to say congrats on the upload! Sounds like you guys were working hard on that. Glad you came through! Excited to watch this!
Richard Armitage (Thorin Oakenshield) voiced Trevor Belmont in Castlevania and Wolverine: The Long Night. (podcast) I've yet to hear it, but the first was very good. The end of Tauriel and Kili was such a gloom on this movie. Tauriel was an original character created for these films. I really liked her. I would not mind seeing another beautiful elf in a movie. Evangeline Lilly was nominated for four awards in the role. I think I'll watch another episode of The Rings of Power. Nearly a billion dollars was invested into making it. It deserves a season two, if only to see what comes from it.
The elves jumping over the perfect dwarven shield wall makes me want to bash my head against a wall. It's the dumbest tactical move I've ever seen in a movie. Now not only are the supernaturally perfect archers too close to use their bows, they are squeezed between a wall of sheilds and a horde of orcs.
Why not just let the dwarves do the thing they are best at and shoot from behind the wall of shields like any normal person would do?
Because they are not normal people 😂
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When I see a Hollywood battle I just disconnect any military analysis from it and go on coolness.
Otherwise it would just be a 2h of pike warfare
@b.u.l.1734 As a proud Dwarf supremacist I will call out any time those pointy eared leaf licking tree humpers try and steal honorable Dwarven glory.
A lot of fans of the story were upset this was made into a trilogy. The Hobbit wasn't very long & people felt it was a money grab turning it into 3 films.
From my place, we need subtitles when we watching this movie. This third movie. It was on the TV that night, in an open restaurant, and I will never forget, how every one of people that was there, eating and drinking, from every age of man and women, we just watch the movie, focused, especially the war part and when Thorin dies. Nobody is talking even laughing like usual. There's an older men, sipping his drinks but his eyes never move except to the tv. We're just quietly watching it until the end. It makes me understand, that when no one thinks it just a make believe story fantasy that they can just ignore and all of them really take it seriously from the beginning to the end, it means that it is a really good movie.
What a good memory to me, thank you Peter Jackson and all. Thank you Magic Knight, you're the best reaction team in this platform.
(I hope I said it right, my English is not so good.)
Tolkien was never someone to let his stories try and glorify war. Even in a book like The Hobbit he made sure the loss and tragedy of war was always seen, not hidden behind heroic acts.
Tolkien was a soldier in WW1. He saw war up close and personal. In both The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings you can see that he doesn't shy away from the fact that evil needs to be confronted, even with violence, but war is not something to be glorified. There is a cost.
Fun Facts after this movie:
Balin was killed in Moria. He was in the tomb in The Fellowship of the Ring.
Ori was the skeleton holding the big book next to Balin's tomb as well.
Oin, the dwarf with the ear pipe, was killed by the Watcher (the huge kraken-octopus creature) in Moria from the Fellowship of the Ring.
Dwalin lived on throughout the Fourth Age and passed away at the age of 340.
Gloin was seen accompanying Gimli in the Fellowship of the Ring at the Council of Elrond.
Bombur was still the same, eating and drinking.
Bifur and Bofur cloistered in the Lonely Mountains with their riches.
Dori and Nori participated in the Battle of Dale, which were the Dwarves of Erebor against the Easterlings of Sauron. The Easterlings were those corrupt men seen marching towards the Black Gate during Two Towers, where Frodo, Sam, and Gollum saw them.
Dain II Ironfoot became King as we saw.
During the War of the Ring, he was killed in the Battle of Dale, defending the body of King Brand of Dale. King Brand was the son of Bain. And Bain was the son of Bard.
Galadriel scene, I melted like butter. 🥴 Speechless.
I love how both of you kept laughing at the action. It was so fun!
I'm not certain if this hasn't been mentioned before. But, here's some info you guys need to know.
1. Warner Bros INSISTED on another trilogy. SO they had to do some serious stretching of the book.
2 The Hobbit was written as a standalone book and primarily for children.
3. Tolkien did several revisions to bring it to the Legendarium. As he hadn't fully fleshed out ME at that time.
4. Fili and Kili didn't have much in the way of backstory in the books. Tauriel was introduced to help flesh things out.
5. Legolas isn't in The Hobbit.
Honestly tearing up and thats cause of the review instead of watching the full movie The Hobbit was an amazing journey leading up to Lord of the Rings and are still the greatest fantasy movies of all time and now if u dont mind I'm off on my own "adventure."
After who knows how many attempts to upload, it's finally here. The final journey in middle earth. Thank you both for reacting to these. I love you both
Thanks for showing the line by Bilbo "He was my friend." Many reactions I have seen omit that 4 word line that made the results of the whole trilogy just fall into place and resolution.