it introduced my favorite card, rookie fur hire, which allows me to tribute a monster and summon from deck or hand a monster fur hire that is one level higher or one level lower than the tributed monster
I can’t even express how nice it feels to just see two people have a good conversation ESPECIALLY in the YuGiOh space/community! You guys have just the right energy!
I love this podcast, been listening since week two. I feel like this could be a lot bigger if you were to advertise it more, I only found it due to it coming up when I was searching for more Joshua videos after watching his reaction to some new cards. You guys put out such quality content, I hope you keep at this.
The Snake Eye stuff reminds me of Zoodiac outside of the Fusion Sub loop format in that it’s a relatively compact engine that’s just being thrown into a bunch of other decks. Like we’re seeing over 50% of decks in top cut playing the Sinful Spoils Snake Eye stuff in some capacity, but it’s hard to call it tier 0 because the decks aren’t all the same, they just play the same engine. Unlike something like Nekroz, Ishizu Tear, Fusion Sub Zoodiac, or Spyral that were the same exact list barring some minor adjustments like some Ishizu Tear lists playing 2 Chryme or seeing Heartbeat played in MD to out garbage floodgates.
Furthermore, those decks play the Snake-Eye engine because they specifically synergize with the engine thanks to having an archetypal level 1 fire, whereas with Zoodiac basically any deck could find a way to utilize a Zoodiac engine.
You two are my favorite content creators. You always bring meaningful conversation and insight into the game. While you always have preferences, you are smart in analyzing trends, people, patterns, and the meta in such ways that promote healthy discussion, flip sides of every argument, and creative thinking. Wish I could have the opportunity at a National event to truly thank you for all you do! Keep it up and thank you for making content for us to enjoy. Congrats on the baby Farfa! (Just don’t pop the baby) Keep winning Joshua!
Not a single mention of Secret Village in the Majespecter section is really strange, they literally have a card that searches it. Or, hell, they can even search Necrovalley. I feel like that’s a huge elephant in the room that would make the deck a viable rogue option.
Good catch by Farfa there. Snake eyes would get dumpstered by any Tearlament list that had access to the full shufflers, and would be unable to play against Kashtira until it outed Arise-Heart. The fact that both of those decks are heavily on the banlist for every format Snake-eyes is in is the reason why it's able to breakout so hard.
Honestly full power Kashtira vs full power snake-eyes isn’t as bad of a match up as you say for two reasons. A: Since the fire king variant can play on opponents turn, if you play lancea you can drop it on your opponents turn which not only hurts there combos, but let you continue to play. B: the deck fits soooo much non engine that it will most likely see a nib or book. C: the deck literally has a card that searches the best out to the board, kurikara. If you go normal ash add kurikara you check Shang + more importantly arise heart and then you’re chilling. If anything, the match favours snake-eye.
Prolly it was a stretch to say Snake Eye is better than everything ever printed since we have yet to recover from Ishizu and Kash. Yet the ability of starting your one card combo in many different ways, the resilience to interruptions, almost half of your deck at your disposal for non-engine... We sure haven't seen anything like that before. Yeah Kash might come close, yet an end board of just arise heart plus something to back him up is not enough. Tear might come close to Snake eye resilience, although choke points do exist. Maybe not hard enough to put at hold their whole turn but good enough to make their end setup way more manageable. Also both those deck suffer a lot from Dbarrier (strange lab MU) while Snake eyes couldn't care any less. I believe that if you put those three in the same room they would find their own balance and representation since one is the best Macro deck and the other can match snake eye unfairness. But probably Fire would play the big dog role.
@@AndrewUdalyeah and needless to say the amount of non engine snake eyes can afford. If you are going to sack them going 1st you would have to go through 2-3 handtraps and at that point we are not talking about snake eyes, I think you would win against any deck if you are playing a modern Yu-Gi-Oh deck
@@AndrewUdal I didn't say it was a bad matchup. Kash with ariseheart simply weakens every deck that needs to use the graveyard. Full power tear still won the tournament because of the outs you just mentioned but just as easily you don't see them or you open diabellstar line instead of ash normal and lose that way, + the usual getting dshifter'd. In that format it would be 2nd best deck because it would beat Kash a bit easier than Tear but have no way to play around a shuffler in grave.
@@ivanmaterazzo2631 So my point is less that they're not of similar power, but that Tear has a matchup edge so obscenely strong that beyond Snake Eye's better performance against Kashtira, it would be shut out of that hypothetical format. Snake-Eye's power comes from the number of ways it has to stay ahead on the cards it needs to resolve the summons without losing bodies. It is heavily taking for granted that no decks in the current meta contests how it keeps ahead on those bodies. Tear absolutely does, with one shuffler, they can't resolve flamberge, with two shufflers, they can't resolve popular. Add to that the lack of easy rank 4 access, and Tear is pretty much guaranteed to win game one, and even if it gets shut out by something game 2, that's nothing new to the deck in all the formats it dominated in.
FOr the first set review: pretty dang comprehensive. I think for set reviews in the future, having a list to work through of the cards in the set, as well as something like a top x cards that aren't in the spotlight like Psychic Processor or Iron Thunder
Enigmaster Packbit has some very interesting synergy with Centur-Ion. Most importantly, it allows you to play around Nib if summon something like Fenrir before you go for your opening combo.
An advice/criticism to Josh, whenever farfa is talking, i think it would be great for the flow of the conversation to wait until the natural stop of his point before chiming in. That way there isn’t a lot of cutting and also you will have time to think of what to reply to farfa so that the conversation ball rolls non-stop. It is also good for farfa since he can catch on the little java and jokes josh says and make the podcast a lot more fun.
Agree with lot to what was said here. Inhave been excited to Snake Eye since it was revealed in the OCG, it’s a big bummer that it’s so expensive otherwise I would play it no doubt. I love the options the deck gives you and I agree that it’s a very skill intensive deck. . Ghoti is one of my pet decks though so I am stoked for the support. I wish we had gotten a mail deck play starter instead for Keaf, but the supper as is is very fun. Excited for the upcoming format
Honestly with the snake-eye deck, it has to be flamberge dragon for me, its all of the follow up, all of the board building and two different types of disruption. I love how snake-eyes plays on MD but i'm not going to drop over 1000 for everything when i just play locals and don't plan to go too a YCS which is my own choice but i'm interested in how they hit it, it'd still operate in a really reasonable manner. I know its odd thinking of how they'll hit it but they literally killed everything else so we pretty much have snake-eye and anti-snake eye, even if the deck is fun they'll try too kill it.
I just can’t justify buying more paper YuGiOh for the time being. MD is going to be my bread and butter until I can get a better job to even begin to buy individual expensive cards, and even then I don’t know if I can justify that sale to myself. MD just seems like a better deal and you don’t have to break the bank over it. No way I can justify dropping $300 for just the Wanted cards. Konami really screwed up by making most of the SE/SS higher rarity. Edit: also, playing through Maxx C with the deck you want to play is a thousand times better than having to make a budget deck that will lose to most meta decks at locals because you just don’t have the money
I already pre-ordered the booster box a while back just for the Yubel stuff. I dont buy a whole lot of video games or anything (i buy used PS2 era games at a bargain), so I'm willing to put up a bit with some of these prices. Wanted is not one of them. I'm proxying it for personal use until it gets reprinted since i know I won't take it to locals. They need to limit Wanted and ban Poplar or whatever that little scrungle's name is. Princess will be fine, we have DD Crow and we could move Called By back to 2 like in the OCG. Either that or Konami could print bystial type monsters designed for non light/dark monsters.
There was an MD tryout duels with a go first deck and a go 2nd deck. Would be interested to hear your thoughts on it as a format for ranked in MD and even in TCG/OCG events. There was no barrier to entry either cause you could set both decks to be the same. I guess there overlap with side deck and it could complicate the games.
I've felt like there's been a big increase in cards placing stuff into the spell/trap zone. I feel like they'll eventually make a ghost girl for that sort of thing.
@@captainsunshine64 I mean maybe but Popurusu in Japanese means Populous. So they were calling by the actual name of the card. No reason to assume people would call a card anything other than its actual name.
@@Kintaku I get that, but if there's a naming convention in place that should be considered. But I suppose not many people probably realised they were named after trees anyway. And since Poplar came out later it could've been named after a plant instead of a tree
@@captainsunshine64 there’s a naming convention but there’s also the theme of the original sin, which makes Populous not entirely crazy depending on the context. I get what you’re saying though
Discussion topic: during tear 0 format, both players could play during turn 1. With cards like Havnis and the Ishizu millers being mutual, both players could go full combo. Was that a good aspect of the format? Should Yugioh make more archetypes like that? What if this became the norm for if/when power creep gets to this point again?
Suggestion: i know its a podcast, but for the next set review maybe through some visuals (the cards/archtype you are talking about) for twitch chat and CZcams on the screen. 👌🏻
We get one YCS a year down in Australia, the last one was during IshTear format and the next one is next month which will be Fire King Snake eye. Kinda lame to miss out on having YCSs during all the more affordable wider formats and being stuck with more over priced tier 0 rubbish.
I have seen a snake eyes player play under maxx c and got ashed, nibirud and still made a board with multiple negates for me to play into. Feels not so fair to me I have to say
Goblin Rider Phantom Knights is actually they deck im gone try out before trying out the Punk Cards And ashened needs some Pyro Extra Deck Monsters because it oyro locks you and those ED cards are hot ass
The fact that people want Kirin back is wild to me, because when I got back into the game in 2015/16 it was the first card I can remember people were begging to go. People were playing photon thrasher to out it.😅 How times have changed.
Snake eyes is alot like sword soul the deck does have an easy combo that's great for beginners, but the further you take the deck you can do so much more
This was a great episode but I think it'd be better if the set breakdown was more conclusive to make it easier to digest (some kind of yay or nay combined with a prognosis for each archetype and/or card in the current format)
I yearn for the moment when a deck will not be able to reach tier 0's 65% representation in top cuts simply because it's so damn expensive, not enough good players will be able to afford it for the events. edit: Mr. Joshua Schmidt calling out the D-barrier for shutting down Branded/runick but not mentioning it slaughters any and all pendulum decks on the spot still makes me sad. The pends are not on anyone's radar obviously so I'm not faulting him, but D-barrier is a huge reason why. I do believe if the content creators all collectively push for a ban on such silly cards, it would get the odds of the ban happening much higher.
To be fair, he mentioned runick specifically, because he mentioned runick earlier and he really likes the deck and dimensional barrier shuts down almost every deck, that uses the extra deck to any extent. What are you doing with Swordsoul, if they call synchro (especially if you already have a token on board), what are you doing with Purrely, if they call XYZ? The only decks that manage to survive through dim barrier are either decks that do not need to access the ed, or decks that only link summon.
Im upset they didnt reprint the Yubel cards for the new support. Im hoping they do in legacy of Destruction because im not spending over 100 for a fun deck
As someone who has been playing Fire decks since Blaze of Destruction I see no problem with this meta at all. I unironically don't think it's a problem though, the deck does nothing backbreakingly unfair.
I have no issue with se cards, they’re strong but in just terms of what they do never feels oppressive, idk I’d like to see only original go as fk access is what really makes it unfair
It's so frustrating that Master Duel has Snake Eyes, but beyond any word I know of that they'd decide to hit Branded and make it even less viable, while not touching Snake Eyes at all. They DID buff Prank Kids, but what does that mean? That everyone either plays Snake Eyes, Prank Kids, or doesn't enjoy the game? Big foul for Konami on this one.
in master duel even if you don't like it you can actually go and make and play any deck that is a top one... in TCG even if you want to you can't cuz you have to spent over 1 freaking thousand for the cards you need..
I hate T0 formats. Prices explode, deck building becomes simplified, seeing the same deck over and over again gradually becomes dull. I end up just dropping the format until it gets inevitably destroyed by the banlist.
Take my word with a grain of salt. I've been playing MTGA for 3 years now; and granted playing it online is not exactly the same as paper - I don't remember having a single deck being 65%+ of the meta. Usually decks don't even get to above 15%; except for MTGA specifically with the flavor of the set aggro deck which is usually at 20-25%. Those aggro decks don't really perform well in tournaments, people just use them to finish their dailies fast. Of course this is for standard only. I have no idea how the meta is in the other formats.
Tier 0 metas are very uncommon in MtG, the last tier 0 meta was rakdos scam in Modern, and even then it was 30%~ meta share, and the remaining meta beyond that was much more diverse. Cards in extended formats in other games also just hold their relevance far longer than in Yugioh. Lots of meta decks in MtG modern hinge on 5-10+ year old build around cards like ad nauseum and lands. Ironically, the biggest shift in MtG Modern (the most competitive and popular non rotating format) were caused by Modern Horizons 1 and 2. These were packs that were never standard playable, designed for and released into the non rotating formats directly, and had been designed with an intentionally high power level so they'd be meta in modern (despite having tons of unplayably bad cards that existed for no reason other than to pad out the packs and make the actually good cards more scarce, many of which were esoteric references to old legacy cards which were well liked but not good enough to be played.) Basically they intentionally employed drastic powercreep to effectively rotate a technically non-rotating format. Even old decks which were fully formed ended up swapping out at least one card for a Modern Horizons card. The optimal version of each meta deck has at least 1 or 2 MH cards in them. Modern Horizons 2 went on to be among the top 5 highest selling sets of all time because of this. Even though tons of decade old archetypes are playable and even meta Horizons totally rewrote what these decks look like and how the format feels. Goyf isn't even really relevant anymore for instance. Players often cynically refer to Modern as "Modern Horizons block constructed" and the inevitable Modern Horizons 3 as "next rotation". So you know, MtG's most recent tier 0 format was a direct result of designing supplemental products in precisely the same way Yugioh designs all of their products.
If the snake-eyes keeps going till legacy of destruction comes out in going to start bringing chain energy and ghost sister lmfao 😂😊 they and play around that
Would love to see yall talk with someone whos in the yugi-tube space whos not a meta player. Just different prospective would be nice cause saying that one deck playing at a high level where its " your playing fire rn and winning or your not and your losing" doesnt sound like good yugioh to me.
Idk that I believe in majespecter being a part of the meta. It's board is not impactful enough, imo, to stop any reasonable SE deck, and Flamberge hard countering pendulums means you have a like 0% win rate going second into SE.
Something being the best deck makes the meta unfun to watch or to play, and if you want a skill matchup with no variance, a card game is not a good example. The past format was very decent, giving a lot of decks to shine, even Joshua proving this right, as when a good player enters a diverse format true deck knowledge and meta read comes in clutch.
Idk if it was on purpose, but I think as a growing player, I too would like to learn about different decks, why they are or aren't competitively viable, how they fare in the matchups. We often miss that.
I'm going to be real, plenty of ultra wide super diverse formats are dogwater. Balancing cards is *really* hard, and usually if a format is very diverse it's not because Konami managed to design and execute a bunch of new archetypes, generics, and legacy support simultaneously to create a balanced interesting metagame. If a format is really diverse it's often because there are elements at play that lower player agency in general. If there's a ton of decks that absolutely need to go either first or second it places more emphasis on the coinflip and makes the game more swingy. If going second blow out cards are especially powerful it makes the game more saccy. If FTKs are really popular, if the decks with the highest ceilings and powerlevels are brickier than normal, if something about the format raises the variance in the game as a whole, or if the meta is so wide it's impossible to account for everything and some decks just scam wins off of other decks in the format it causes a format to be diverse just because nongames make more decks playable. Past a certain point, formats aren't diverse and wide because they're well balanced, they're diverse because the game is such a low agency crapshoot that you can play a ton of things because what you're playing doesn't matter.
Joker's Wild and Joker's Knight are two fantastic cards in a bad archetype, lol. Bower is only good for rank-four plays, but it eats the normal summon to do it (which is super-suck for a deck THIS bricky) and Arcana Queen Joker (?) is just a terrible card, worse than EVERY other card the deck plays. Konami didn't give the deck any actual divine beast support or anything to go into, beyond monster cards that are a mix of 15 to 8 years old, and for some reason released Branded & Tribrigade at the same time, lol. Anime decks are just down-bad primarily because Konami wants them to suck for a bizarre reason.
Its almost like anytime josh disagrees with the power of something coming out soon farfa tries to make it sound good even if it clearly isnt lol. Is farfa just konamis check for josh? Lmao
I am gonna write it down here since I believe i got blocked on Josh’s main channel from some admin for criticising the game of Yugioh. We need to wake the hell up. Yugioh is just in a loophole for now. Has been there for years and it’s getting worse and worse by the years. Because now, the tier 0 formats are becoming more and more reoccuring. Konami follows business tactics that are so disgustingly harmful to the game of yugioh, yet influencer don’t seem to bother and just frigging cope with everything. How is this healthy? In Magic or FaB for that matter, the community would already have gone riot if they would be exposed to that greedy and anti-customer procedure. Yet here we are in yugioh TCG land, sitting around our cards, feeling grumpy about Konami but always accepting the crap they do. It’s crazy that if you voice out those problems, you are getting put on an ignore list. I just can’t help it but feel like i’m in the wrong timeline. Where we accept customer exploitation.
I watched a few episodes. Seems like farfa doesn't add too much, he's not nearly as knowledgeable about the game as josh. Idk what his accolades are but Josh stream is better imo. The background design is pretty nice though.
When farfa talks it sounds like konami owns him. Ngl wish joshua did this with someone else. Not hate to farfa just feels like hes talking like a konami ad.
I love Josh, but im gonna be honest, his take on Snake-Eyes is probably his worst one ever. He says the deck is the best one, then he says the deck is toxic if you you are playing anything below its power level, essentially everything that it is not Snake-Eyes. So the deck is only not toxic in a mirror match, like wtf. How is this healthy, beacuse he happens to like the deck ? Farfa for once says he likes Block boy but will admit it is toxic and unhealthy for the game, witch is fine everyone is bias to some decks/cards. But Josh somehow seems to think that losing to Mathmech/Mannadium 5 disruptions is worse than losing to Snake-Eyes 5-7 disruptions. The meta that we have right now in MD is not healthy but Snake - Eyes is definitely not better, and since it is stronger than other decks, if you are trying to play rogue, you are even more screwd.
Its probably due to his perspective as a competitive player. He wants to play the best deck in the format and feels like the mirror is "fun" unlike mannadium where the mirror just comes down to the die roll and handtraps. However this sort of arguement is nonsense because the health of the meta isnt just how good the mirror is in topcut.
here while its still phantom rage on the thumbnail
commenters already phantom babyraging
I was here when it still said Phantom Darkness 🧓
@@spicymemes7458 as a perfect circle player myself, we do not talk about that set
Could be intentional. Hasn't this set elicited some rage from the players?
@@xCorvus7xthey’re yugioh players
they get upset by every set
Phantom Rage is my favourite set! It introduced such great cards like Zeus and Tri-Brigade!
it introduced my favorite card, rookie fur hire, which allows me to tribute a monster and summon from deck or hand a monster fur hire that is one level higher or one level lower than the tributed monster
Before listening to this I just wanted to say that I love this podcast and I hope that you guys keep making these episodes!
I can’t even express how nice it feels to just see two people have a good conversation ESPECIALLY in the YuGiOh space/community! You guys have just the right energy!
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I love this podcast, been listening since week two. I feel like this could be a lot bigger if you were to advertise it more, I only found it due to it coming up when I was searching for more Joshua videos after watching his reaction to some new cards. You guys put out such quality content, I hope you keep at this.
The Snake Eye stuff reminds me of Zoodiac outside of the Fusion Sub loop format in that it’s a relatively compact engine that’s just being thrown into a bunch of other decks. Like we’re seeing over 50% of decks in top cut playing the Sinful Spoils Snake Eye stuff in some capacity, but it’s hard to call it tier 0 because the decks aren’t all the same, they just play the same engine. Unlike something like Nekroz, Ishizu Tear, Fusion Sub Zoodiac, or Spyral that were the same exact list barring some minor adjustments like some Ishizu Tear lists playing 2 Chryme or seeing Heartbeat played in MD to out garbage floodgates.
you dont have to even go that far. at 4:00 that talk reminded me a lot of the adventure engine a year ago.
Furthermore, those decks play the Snake-Eye engine because they specifically synergize with the engine thanks to having an archetypal level 1 fire, whereas with Zoodiac basically any deck could find a way to utilize a Zoodiac engine.
You two are my favorite content creators. You always bring meaningful conversation and insight into the game. While you always have preferences, you are smart in analyzing trends, people, patterns, and the meta in such ways that promote healthy discussion, flip sides of every argument, and creative thinking.
Wish I could have the opportunity at a National event to truly thank you for all you do! Keep it up and thank you for making content for us to enjoy.
Congrats on the baby Farfa! (Just don’t pop the baby)
Keep winning Joshua!
Not a single mention of Secret Village in the Majespecter section is really strange, they literally have a card that searches it. Or, hell, they can even search Necrovalley. I feel like that’s a huge elephant in the room that would make the deck a viable rogue option.
So glad theres a good yugioh podcast that i can listen to at work, keep up the great work Josh and Farfa
Good catch by Farfa there. Snake eyes would get dumpstered by any Tearlament list that had access to the full shufflers, and would be unable to play against Kashtira until it outed Arise-Heart. The fact that both of those decks are heavily on the banlist for every format Snake-eyes is in is the reason why it's able to breakout so hard.
Honestly full power Kashtira vs full power snake-eyes isn’t as bad of a match up as you say for two reasons. A: Since the fire king variant can play on opponents turn, if you play lancea you can drop it on your opponents turn which not only hurts there combos, but let you continue to play. B: the deck fits soooo much non engine that it will most likely see a nib or book. C: the deck literally has a card that searches the best out to the board, kurikara. If you go normal ash add kurikara you check Shang + more importantly arise heart and then you’re chilling. If anything, the match favours snake-eye.
Prolly it was a stretch to say Snake Eye is better than everything ever printed since we have yet to recover from Ishizu and Kash.
Yet the ability of starting your one card combo in many different ways, the resilience to interruptions, almost half of your deck at your disposal for non-engine... We sure haven't seen anything like that before.
Yeah Kash might come close, yet an end board of just arise heart plus something to back him up is not enough.
Tear might come close to Snake eye resilience, although choke points do exist. Maybe not hard enough to put at hold their whole turn but good enough to make their end setup way more manageable.
Also both those deck suffer a lot from Dbarrier (strange lab MU) while Snake eyes couldn't care any less.
I believe that if you put those three in the same room they would find their own balance and representation since one is the best Macro deck and the other can match snake eye unfairness.
But probably Fire would play the big dog role.
@@AndrewUdalyeah and needless to say the amount of non engine snake eyes can afford. If you are going to sack them going 1st you would have to go through 2-3 handtraps and at that point we are not talking about snake eyes, I think you would win against any deck if you are playing a modern Yu-Gi-Oh deck
@@AndrewUdal I didn't say it was a bad matchup. Kash with ariseheart simply weakens every deck that needs to use the graveyard. Full power tear still won the tournament because of the outs you just mentioned but just as easily you don't see them or you open diabellstar line instead of ash normal and lose that way, + the usual getting dshifter'd. In that format it would be 2nd best deck because it would beat Kash a bit easier than Tear but have no way to play around a shuffler in grave.
@@ivanmaterazzo2631 So my point is less that they're not of similar power, but that Tear has a matchup edge so obscenely strong that beyond Snake Eye's better performance against Kashtira, it would be shut out of that hypothetical format. Snake-Eye's power comes from the number of ways it has to stay ahead on the cards it needs to resolve the summons without losing bodies. It is heavily taking for granted that no decks in the current meta contests how it keeps ahead on those bodies. Tear absolutely does, with one shuffler, they can't resolve flamberge, with two shufflers, they can't resolve popular. Add to that the lack of easy rank 4 access, and Tear is pretty much guaranteed to win game one, and even if it gets shut out by something game 2, that's nothing new to the deck in all the formats it dominated in.
FOr the first set review: pretty dang comprehensive. I think for set reviews in the future, having a list to work through of the cards in the set, as well as something like a top x cards that aren't in the spotlight like Psychic Processor or Iron Thunder
Enigmaster Packbit has some very interesting synergy with Centur-Ion. Most importantly, it allows you to play around Nib if summon something like Fenrir before you go for your opening combo.
Raidraptor is this sets sleeper hit.
An advice/criticism to Josh, whenever farfa is talking, i think it would be great for the flow of the conversation to wait until the natural stop of his point before chiming in. That way there isn’t a lot of cutting and also you will have time to think of what to reply to farfa so that the conversation ball rolls non-stop. It is also good for farfa since he can catch on the little java and jokes josh says and make the podcast a lot more fun.
Agree with lot to what was said here. Inhave been excited to Snake Eye since it was revealed in the OCG, it’s a big bummer that it’s so expensive otherwise I would play it no doubt. I love the options the deck gives you and I agree that it’s a very skill intensive deck. . Ghoti is one of my pet decks though so I am stoked for the support. I wish we had gotten a mail deck play starter instead for Keaf, but the supper as is is very fun. Excited for the upcoming format
really enjoying this podcast, honestly you can keep it how it is for now imo.
1:01:40 "remember when the 2nd wave of ___ gave it a fusion for some reason?!?" aged like fine wine
This type content that’s I like. Good job guys!
I love this podcast it’s so enjoyable keep it up ❤
Honestly with the snake-eye deck, it has to be flamberge dragon for me, its all of the follow up, all of the board building and two different types of disruption. I love how snake-eyes plays on MD but i'm not going to drop over 1000 for everything when i just play locals and don't plan to go too a YCS which is my own choice but i'm interested in how they hit it, it'd still operate in a really reasonable manner.
I know its odd thinking of how they'll hit it but they literally killed everything else so we pretty much have snake-eye and anti-snake eye, even if the deck is fun they'll try too kill it.
I really like this format for breaking down packs.
I just can’t justify buying more paper YuGiOh for the time being. MD is going to be my bread and butter until I can get a better job to even begin to buy individual expensive cards, and even then I don’t know if I can justify that sale to myself. MD just seems like a better deal and you don’t have to break the bank over it. No way I can justify dropping $300 for just the Wanted cards. Konami really screwed up by making most of the SE/SS higher rarity.
Edit: also, playing through Maxx C with the deck you want to play is a thousand times better than having to make a budget deck that will lose to most meta decks at locals because you just don’t have the money
I already pre-ordered the booster box a while back just for the Yubel stuff. I dont buy a whole lot of video games or anything (i buy used PS2 era games at a bargain), so I'm willing to put up a bit with some of these prices.
Wanted is not one of them. I'm proxying it for personal use until it gets reprinted since i know I won't take it to locals. They need to limit Wanted and ban Poplar or whatever that little scrungle's name is. Princess will be fine, we have DD Crow and we could move Called By back to 2 like in the OCG. Either that or Konami could print bystial type monsters designed for non light/dark monsters.
There was an MD tryout duels with a go first deck and a go 2nd deck. Would be interested to hear your thoughts on it as a format for ranked in MD and even in TCG/OCG events.
There was no barrier to entry either cause you could set both decks to be the same.
I guess there overlap with side deck and it could complicate the games.
Madolche needs support and I’d say a rank 3 that facilitates the strategy of clearing the grave and shuffling cards back
I've felt like there's been a big increase in cards placing stuff into the spell/trap zone. I feel like they'll eventually make a ghost girl for that sort of thing.
Why did everyone think Poplar was going to be called Populus? They're all named after trees, not plants
Because the Katakana for it on the Japanese reads Po-pu-ru-su. They had nothing else to go by
@@Kintaku Ah okay that makes more sense. But we should've known it'd be named after a tree
@@captainsunshine64 I mean maybe but Popurusu in Japanese means Populous. So they were calling by the actual name of the card.
No reason to assume people would call a card anything other than its actual name.
@@Kintaku I get that, but if there's a naming convention in place that should be considered. But I suppose not many people probably realised they were named after trees anyway. And since Poplar came out later it could've been named after a plant instead of a tree
@@captainsunshine64 there’s a naming convention but there’s also the theme of the original sin, which makes Populous not entirely crazy depending on the context.
I get what you’re saying though
You can't escape the birds josh you can't escape the kaaaaaaaa. XD
I dunno I read psychic processor and I think it's fantastic. a recyclable, flexible extender that's an etele target.
Farfa: 😱😫🤩🤯
Joshua: 🧐
Any chance you can talk about the flame swordsman cards and if it has any chance to actually be competitively viable?
Discussion topic: during tear 0 format, both players could play during turn 1. With cards like Havnis and the Ishizu millers being mutual, both players could go full combo.
Was that a good aspect of the format? Should Yugioh make more archetypes like that? What if this became the norm for if/when power creep gets to this point again?
Suggestion: i know its a podcast, but for the next set review maybe through some visuals (the cards/archtype you are talking about) for twitch chat and CZcams on the screen. 👌🏻
Nice podcast 🎉
Phantom Nightmare resulted in me having genuine interest in a Runick variant of Yubel, which I think needs more widespread testing, honestly
This is fantastic
We get one YCS a year down in Australia, the last one was during IshTear format and the next one is next month which will be Fire King Snake eye.
Kinda lame to miss out on having YCSs during all the more affordable wider formats and being stuck with more over priced tier 0 rubbish.
black goat laughs and rollback might make Labrynth really op.
I have seen a snake eyes player play under maxx c and got ashed, nibirud and still made a board with multiple negates for me to play into. Feels not so fair to me I have to say
Goblin Rider Phantom Knights is actually they deck im gone try out before trying out the Punk Cards
And ashened needs some Pyro Extra Deck Monsters because it oyro locks you and those ED cards are hot ass
Yeah, my deck has all of the choke points in existence because I play Monarchs.
The fact that people want Kirin back is wild to me, because when I got back into the game in 2015/16 it was the first card I can remember people were begging to go. People were playing photon thrasher to out it.😅 How times have changed.
There is a guy at my locals who is going to play goblins. Form what he's showed me it's just floodgates turbo
Snake eyes is alot like sword soul the deck does have an easy combo that's great for beginners, but the further you take the deck you can do so much more
This was a great episode but I think it'd be better if the set breakdown was more conclusive to make it easier to digest (some kind of yay or nay combined with a prognosis for each archetype and/or card in the current format)
For raid raptor, imperm the raiders knight amd watch them pass
Same for Majespecter. Imperm the Nue and watch them pass.
Is this the part where I randomly type ban Maxx C?
I yearn for the moment when a deck will not be able to reach tier 0's 65% representation in top cuts simply because it's so damn expensive, not enough good players will be able to afford it for the events.
edit: Mr. Joshua Schmidt calling out the D-barrier for shutting down Branded/runick but not mentioning it slaughters any and all pendulum decks on the spot still makes me sad. The pends are not on anyone's radar obviously so I'm not faulting him, but D-barrier is a huge reason why. I do believe if the content creators all collectively push for a ban on such silly cards, it would get the odds of the ban happening much higher.
To be fair, he mentioned runick specifically, because he mentioned runick earlier and he really likes the deck and dimensional barrier shuts down almost every deck, that uses the extra deck to any extent. What are you doing with Swordsoul, if they call synchro (especially if you already have a token on board), what are you doing with Purrely, if they call XYZ? The only decks that manage to survive through dim barrier are either decks that do not need to access the ed, or decks that only link summon.
Im upset they didnt reprint the Yubel cards for the new support. Im hoping they do in legacy of Destruction because im not spending over 100 for a fun deck
As someone who has been playing Fire decks since Blaze of Destruction I see no problem with this meta at all.
I unironically don't think it's a problem though, the deck does nothing backbreakingly unfair.
Which is the best shifter deck?
I have no issue with se cards, they’re strong but in just terms of what they do never feels oppressive, idk I’d like to see only original go as fk access is what really makes it unfair
Wish it went longer
Not on Spotify yet 😢
It's so frustrating that Master Duel has Snake Eyes, but beyond any word I know of that they'd decide to hit Branded and make it even less viable, while not touching Snake Eyes at all. They DID buff Prank Kids, but what does that mean? That everyone either plays Snake Eyes, Prank Kids, or doesn't enjoy the game? Big foul for Konami on this one.
I only like snake eyes for the artwork now
damn, still sleeping on the majespecters. locks into into both majespecters and dracoslayers and you can do wakaushi fun stuff in it before
Why does it say phantom rage on the thumbnail 🤔
It's ragebaiting.
It's a common technic to get engagement, and it worked, seeing your comment.
@@Ragnarok540 Either this or whoever made the thumbnail had a big fuck up. Either way it's funny.
Maybe it comments on the response Phantom Nightmare elicited in the playerbase?
I’m more mad at the shitty cropping. There’s a lot of the background still left in the letters
The konami employee said Ashened will be good BUYBUYBUYBUYBUYBUY
Time stamps please 🙏
in master duel even if you don't like it you can actually go and make and play any deck that is a top one... in TCG even if you want to you can't cuz you have to spent over 1 freaking thousand for the cards you need..
Minor thumbnail mistake, I win
I hate T0 formats. Prices explode, deck building becomes simplified, seeing the same deck over and over again gradually becomes dull. I end up just dropping the format until it gets inevitably destroyed by the banlist.
Would snake eyes be your eyes looking like eyes of a snake or your eyes are literally snakes?
How frequent are tier 0 formats in MTG? Because Tear 0 ended in Feb 2023 or some shit, didnt it?
Take my word with a grain of salt.
I've been playing MTGA for 3 years now; and granted playing it online is not exactly the same as paper - I don't remember having a single deck being 65%+ of the meta. Usually decks don't even get to above 15%; except for MTGA specifically with the flavor of the set aggro deck which is usually at 20-25%. Those aggro decks don't really perform well in tournaments, people just use them to finish their dailies fast.
Of course this is for standard only. I have no idea how the meta is in the other formats.
Tier 0 metas are very uncommon in MtG, the last tier 0 meta was rakdos scam in Modern, and even then it was 30%~ meta share, and the remaining meta beyond that was much more diverse.
Cards in extended formats in other games also just hold their relevance far longer than in Yugioh. Lots of meta decks in MtG modern hinge on 5-10+ year old build around cards like ad nauseum and lands.
Ironically, the biggest shift in MtG Modern (the most competitive and popular non rotating format) were caused by Modern Horizons 1 and 2. These were packs that were never standard playable, designed for and released into the non rotating formats directly, and had been designed with an intentionally high power level so they'd be meta in modern (despite having tons of unplayably bad cards that existed for no reason other than to pad out the packs and make the actually good cards more scarce, many of which were esoteric references to old legacy cards which were well liked but not good enough to be played.) Basically they intentionally employed drastic powercreep to effectively rotate a technically non-rotating format. Even old decks which were fully formed ended up swapping out at least one card for a Modern Horizons card. The optimal version of each meta deck has at least 1 or 2 MH cards in them. Modern Horizons 2 went on to be among the top 5 highest selling sets of all time because of this. Even though tons of decade old archetypes are playable and even meta Horizons totally rewrote what these decks look like and how the format feels. Goyf isn't even really relevant anymore for instance. Players often cynically refer to Modern as "Modern Horizons block constructed" and the inevitable Modern Horizons 3 as "next rotation".
So you know, MtG's most recent tier 0 format was a direct result of designing supplemental products in precisely the same way Yugioh designs all of their products.
If the snake-eyes keeps going till legacy of destruction comes out in going to start bringing chain energy and ghost sister lmfao 😂😊 they and play around that
Would love to see yall talk with someone whos in the yugi-tube space whos not a meta player. Just different prospective would be nice cause saying that one deck playing at a high level where its " your playing fire rn and winning or your not and your losing" doesnt sound like good yugioh to me.
Typhon is the kinda card that doesnt come up too offen but when it does it wins games.
Absolutely love the card.
Great podcast guys. Keep it up ❤
Fire king isn’t tier 0, snake eye is. Basically if you aren’t rich you aren’t playing. So I’m not playing. It’s basically tele dad
Are we really talking about specific cards and not displaying those cards on screen
Idk that I believe in majespecter being a part of the meta. It's board is not impactful enough, imo, to stop any reasonable SE deck, and Flamberge hard countering pendulums means you have a like 0% win rate going second into SE.
Secret Village solos snake-eye unless they open exactly ash
broski, add description to your channel
Something being the best deck makes the meta unfun to watch or to play, and if you want a skill matchup with no variance, a card game is not a good example. The past format was very decent, giving a lot of decks to shine, even Joshua proving this right, as when a good player enters a diverse format true deck knowledge and meta read comes in clutch.
love how they talked about every deck in the set expect raid :/
Idk if it was on purpose, but I think as a growing player, I too would like to learn about different decks, why they are or aren't competitively viable, how they fare in the matchups. We often miss that.
Yeah not sure why they skipped it. I know josh hates birds but bruh. Pretty sure farfa likes this deck so idk why they didn't even mention it
I'm going to be real, plenty of ultra wide super diverse formats are dogwater. Balancing cards is *really* hard, and usually if a format is very diverse it's not because Konami managed to design and execute a bunch of new archetypes, generics, and legacy support simultaneously to create a balanced interesting metagame.
If a format is really diverse it's often because there are elements at play that lower player agency in general. If there's a ton of decks that absolutely need to go either first or second it places more emphasis on the coinflip and makes the game more swingy. If going second blow out cards are especially powerful it makes the game more saccy. If FTKs are really popular, if the decks with the highest ceilings and powerlevels are brickier than normal, if something about the format raises the variance in the game as a whole, or if the meta is so wide it's impossible to account for everything and some decks just scam wins off of other decks in the format it causes a format to be diverse just because nongames make more decks playable.
Past a certain point, formats aren't diverse and wide because they're well balanced, they're diverse because the game is such a low agency crapshoot that you can play a ton of things because what you're playing doesn't matter.
My guy liking snake eye and hating on my boy circular?
2short and the best pod
Guys necrovalley Vs fireking, any good?
You're probably better off playing Inscription if possible
give ashened a busted-ass link 2
pls bro
38:32
Fake format was the best and I'm going to forever be mad at the "wide format bad" people
theres no way Poplar is okay if Circular was banned
You, Josh's editor and I are of the same opinion it seems (Josh's "We need to talk about Snake-Eyes" at 12:20 for reference)
Joker's Wild and Joker's Knight are two fantastic cards in a bad archetype, lol.
Bower is only good for rank-four plays, but it eats the normal summon to do it (which is super-suck for a deck THIS bricky) and Arcana Queen Joker (?) is just a terrible card, worse than EVERY other card the deck plays.
Konami didn't give the deck any actual divine beast support or anything to go into, beyond monster cards that are a mix of 15 to 8 years old, and for some reason released Branded & Tribrigade at the same time, lol. Anime decks are just down-bad primarily because Konami wants them to suck for a bizarre reason.
Its almost like anytime josh disagrees with the power of something coming out soon farfa tries to make it sound good even if it clearly isnt lol. Is farfa just konamis check for josh? Lmao
I am gonna write it down here since I believe i got blocked on Josh’s main channel from some admin for criticising the game of Yugioh.
We need to wake the hell up. Yugioh is just in a loophole for now. Has been there for years and it’s getting worse and worse by the years.
Because now, the tier 0 formats are becoming more and more reoccuring.
Konami follows business tactics that are so disgustingly harmful to the game of yugioh, yet influencer don’t seem to bother and just frigging cope with everything.
How is this healthy?
In Magic or FaB for that matter, the community would already have gone riot if they would be exposed to that greedy and anti-customer procedure.
Yet here we are in yugioh TCG land, sitting around our cards, feeling grumpy about Konami but always accepting the crap they do.
It’s crazy that if you voice out those problems, you are getting put on an ignore list. I just can’t help it but feel like i’m in the wrong timeline. Where we accept customer exploitation.
Can't wait to patent license lock the snake eye players
dddeez nuts
Josh just loves talking about Yugioh way too much. We could probably make a game out of how many times Farfa gets donowalled during a podcast lol
I watched a few episodes. Seems like farfa doesn't add too much, he's not nearly as knowledgeable about the game as josh. Idk what his accolades are but Josh stream is better imo. The background design is pretty nice though.
No
When farfa talks it sounds like konami owns him. Ngl wish joshua did this with someone else. Not hate to farfa just feels like hes talking like a konami ad.
dude 2 days ago at a locals 2-0 the deck in under 10 minutes with god cards, how amateur is Josh really.
Podepod
Podcast idea: I would absolutely love a non-yugioh related episode. Farfa und Josh talking about their school time, love, friends, etc
I love Josh, but im gonna be honest, his take on Snake-Eyes is probably his worst one ever. He says the deck is the best one, then he says the deck is toxic if you you are playing anything below its power level, essentially everything that it is not Snake-Eyes. So the deck is only not toxic in a mirror match, like wtf.
How is this healthy, beacuse he happens to like the deck ? Farfa for once says he likes Block boy but will admit it is toxic and unhealthy for the game, witch is fine everyone is bias to some decks/cards. But Josh somehow seems to think that losing to Mathmech/Mannadium 5 disruptions is worse than losing to Snake-Eyes 5-7 disruptions.
The meta that we have right now in MD is not healthy but Snake - Eyes is definitely not better, and since it is stronger than other decks, if you are trying to play rogue, you are even more screwd.
Its probably due to his perspective as a competitive player. He wants to play the best deck in the format and feels like the mirror is "fun" unlike mannadium where the mirror just comes down to the die roll and handtraps. However this sort of arguement is nonsense because the health of the meta isnt just how good the mirror is in topcut.
Gross the farfa opening 🤮