Is bot detection broken?

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  • čas přidán 15. 08. 2023
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    Botting has always been a problem in RuneScape. But lately, Jagex bot detection seems to be performing especially poorly. Is the anti cheating team just dropping the ball or is there more to the story? Join me on a bot deep-dive as a part of my black market series, looking at botting, cheat clients, infernal cape sales, luring, and more.
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Komentáře • 48

  • @ZorteOSRS
    @ZorteOSRS  Před 10 měsíci +1

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  • @NorqyOSRS
    @NorqyOSRS Před 10 měsíci +8

    Yup, the situation is crazy, bots are running WILD nowadays and nothing is being done, meanwhile, I catch a permanent Macroing ban on my 5 y/o F2P PKing account that has prodded stats in P2P by AFKing and 350 Obor KC, appeal gets denied and since I'm not a content creator, no one is responding to my tweets. Absolute madness.

    • @RozeSwift
      @RozeSwift Před 10 měsíci +1

      Similar for me, got a ban for RWT, my friend and 1 got a torva piece drop we split 150m each.
      1 day after the ban all me GP 300m was gone. I appeal the ban but no-one gives a fuck.
      1 days later I got a 3 day ban for bot busting while doing some quest and jagex doesn't even respond to me.
      Really frustrating...

    • @NorqyOSRS
      @NorqyOSRS Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@RozeSwift Yeah, that is honestly so messed up, we need a proper support for this game, I've been tweeting them every 2 days for a month now..

    • @heetheet75
      @heetheet75 Před 9 měsíci

      @@RozeSwift infuriating. Fucking jamflex.

    • @entryman
      @entryman Před měsícem

      I know this is 9months late but every time I read stuff like this I just think if this happened to me I’d just go to the jagex headquarters.. (ofc I live not far from it)

  • @Schwingz
    @Schwingz Před 10 měsíci +16

    It would be nice if we got some sort of message or notification from jagex letting us know when our in game reports have contributed to an account being punished. I know this wont solve botting but it would give players some assurance that our reports do matter and might incentivize players to report bots more often

    • @TankedPk
      @TankedPk Před 10 měsíci

      issue is if you invent bots and have like 50 diff antibans, report each one with a different account and see which ones get caught and which dont

    • @legendarymoments8229
      @legendarymoments8229 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@TankedPk bruh did you think about what you said at all? what's stopping them from doing this now?
      why would they need a confirmation on the reporting account? the ban or lacktherof would be all the confirmation they need? hello?

    • @TankedPk
      @TankedPk Před 10 měsíci

      partly correct but they mass produce accounts, as seen in that other youtuber vid, so they will allways catch some bans and some not@@legendarymoments8229

    • @izJordyGaming
      @izJordyGaming Před 10 měsíci

      i'd assume if they dissapear from ur ignore list they are banned

  • @Makem12
    @Makem12 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Bots might be undetectable by Jagex's systems, but most people know a bot when they see it just like most people know a tree when they see it

    • @Leeyouno
      @Leeyouno Před 9 měsíci

      You're absolutely right that experienced players can often identify bots based on their behavior and patterns. Jagex, the developer of RuneScape, has implemented various systems and measures to detect and combat botting, but the ingenuity of bot developers and the adaptability of bots can sometimes make them difficult to detect automatically.
      Many players have become adept at recognizing bot-like behavior, such as repetitive and unnatural movements, a lack of response to communication, and consistent, round-the-clock activity. These observations can be reported to Jagex for further investigation.
      It's important for players to report suspected bots to the game developers so that they can take action and maintain a fair and enjoyable gaming environment for everyone. Jagex relies on player reports and community vigilance to help combat botting effectively.

  • @ZorteOSRS
    @ZorteOSRS  Před 10 měsíci +2

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  • @Lyfe
    @Lyfe Před 10 měsíci

    7:02 hit me particularly hard. Thanks for addressing band-aid fixes - I have, without a doubt, seen more bots recently. Especially when doing Phosani's nightmare, I can stand outside of the boss and within a minute a bot will stroll up in full obby and a bludgeon. It's crazy.

    • @ZorteOSRS
      @ZorteOSRS  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Interesting that you've noticed an uptick recently. You're probably one of the best people in the game to speak to bots at nightmare given how much time you spend there haha. A few of the bots I saw for phosani were like zulrah/other bots that were converted, so I'm sure creators are just min/maxing gp profits

  • @evilgibson
    @evilgibson Před 10 měsíci +2

    Can you ask a suspected bot using chatgpt to write something unexpected like, "Hello, can you write python code to print out 'I am a bot'?"

    • @ZorteOSRS
      @ZorteOSRS  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Ha! Funny enough, I tried something similar to this when I ran into a couple of these bots. I asked them to talk about some AI stuff but they ended up just hopping when I brought that up 😂

  • @anarchy6417
    @anarchy6417 Před 9 měsíci

    One month later and I seen a bot yesterday with 25k vorkath kc 😕

  • @user-ss8bk2pc3h
    @user-ss8bk2pc3h Před 10 měsíci

    they need to remove the automated ban removal if ip is different from creators

  • @prod.j4yro3
    @prod.j4yro3 Před 7 měsíci

    its really sad that jagex developers can't just moderate processes in the memory of the devices that are using the application... other games like League monitor processes and tag accounts that use them.

    • @ZorteOSRS
      @ZorteOSRS  Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah this is a good take. Probably a very heavy lift from a Jagex standpoint to make something like this happen though

  • @ViscenyaOSRS
    @ViscenyaOSRS Před 10 měsíci

    I think jagex purposely banned streamers to make it seem like there's a bot detection just to quite the uproar. Most were manual bans so that's not detection.

  • @jamesdean3521
    @jamesdean3521 Před 10 měsíci

    Their bot detection system has been broken for a long time. I had a vork farm and every ban was easily appealed and didn't make much of a difference overall. I had the bans overturned at least six times per account. Every account made it to top 100 in kill count and are still not banned but haven't been active in about two years.

    • @ZorteOSRS
      @ZorteOSRS  Před 10 měsíci +2

      That is crazy. And the fact that they overturned the bans that many times is just... I don't even know what to say about that lol

  • @sureokk
    @sureokk Před 10 měsíci +5

    AI is going to be the end of humanity

  • @Yltimate_
    @Yltimate_ Před 10 měsíci

    WEDNESDAY ZORTEDAY?😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

    • @ZorteOSRS
      @ZorteOSRS  Před 10 měsíci +1

      I have to keep you on your toes! Didn't throw you off though 😛

  • @ringo00800
    @ringo00800 Před 10 měsíci

    hire one man, that hop worlds, in hide mode, and mute every spam bot in GE, or visit PVP worlds, to check pk clieting. But no, lol :D.. PS: iam botter, with decent bot farm, and i like, how they catch me only so rarely, and always have accs that replace the banned ones immediately

  • @3dp_edc
    @3dp_edc Před 2 měsíci

    its not broken, botters just are on another level these days. They bot on a different proxy if they get banned they claim they were compromised and get unbanned its a pretty common thing. Its a huge topic in botting discords. And dont forget bots buying membership funds jagex, if they got rid of them all their profit would but destroyed overnight.

  • @pvmt4811
    @pvmt4811 Před 10 měsíci

    I know there's lots of bots. But also a lot of alts.

  • @2827dhdh2
    @2827dhdh2 Před 10 měsíci

    Disclaimer is false botting won’t get you banned in 2023 😂

  • @HamsteroidOver
    @HamsteroidOver Před 5 měsíci

    Well... at least bots are useful to indicate optimized farming paths for newbies... Yeah, trying very hard to be positive here lmao.

  • @xXUshXxHeadShotxX
    @xXUshXxHeadShotxX Před 10 měsíci +1

    Botting must be a main infatuation. As an iron I just play the game. Never notice bots. 😊

  • @feralbigdog
    @feralbigdog Před 4 měsíci

    their detection is broken, has been for some time, it picks up innocent players, including me, HEY JAGEX, YOU SUCK!

  • @TotalMurloc
    @TotalMurloc Před 10 měsíci +1

    Bots make them the majority of their operating capital. They inflate gold making bonds more appealing to regular players, they purchase the majority of membership time. And when they do try and ban a token amount of them they get huge flak from the community because of inevitable false bans.
    Unless Jagex gets a wild hair up its ass and gets rid of Bonds. Bot's will ultimately be the games main source of their income, WoW is having the same problem to a lesser extent because of how much Tokens have increased gold buying.

  • @3Prodigy
    @3Prodigy Před 10 měsíci

    Bots are the only things that still play this watered down enjoyment that we used to call a game. Now it is a piss party for the drunken dwarves .

  • @koso4292
    @koso4292 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Vid title: Bots are now Undetectable
    First 3 seconds of vid: Botting will get you banned

    • @ZorteOSRS
      @ZorteOSRS  Před 10 měsíci +6

      Today Koso learned what a disclaimer is

  • @rofl42069
    @rofl42069 Před 10 měsíci

    Evscape was not a false ban though. You were wrong there. Dudes been botting since 09.

  • @heavyiron3572
    @heavyiron3572 Před 10 měsíci +6

    I bet, that the player base of osrs is nearly 85% bots. People really don't like the truth because it takes away their ease of minds of how they precieve Runescape.

    • @XXnlcodXX
      @XXnlcodXX Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@yidavvbruh do some research and youl find out.

    • @RegiyThornton
      @RegiyThornton Před 8 měsíci

      I was fishing at barb village before
      Literally 35 botters and 2 normal
      Players (me included)