Ben Kentish in ding-dong with LBC caller over Reform's manifesto
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- čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
- Ben Kentish debates with caller Daniel who believes that Reform UK is the only party 'speaking common sense'.
In this fiery exchange, caller Daniel rubbished both Tory and Labour plans, as he implied that more people could send their kids to private school if they worked harder, also claiming that we are struggling with a shortage of teachers because too much money is going into immigration.
Nigel Farage vowed to fix 'broken Britain' and stated his intention to run for PM in 2029 as he unveiled Reform UK's election 'contract' on Monday.
The Reform UK leader launched the contract from Merthyr Tydfil, South Wales, noting that the word 'manifesto' has been 'devalued' by the major parties.
During the policy unveiling, Farage blamed Brexit "disenchantment" on lack of leadership in government, with the Reform UK leader pledging to raise the threshold at which earners start paying tax to £20,000 in a bid to "make work pay".
He also pledged to "stop small boats in 100 days" as part of the unveiling.
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Daniel - so very angry and so very vacuous.
It’s the true face of selfishness in a large contingent of the British public unfortunately.
“Who cares if everyone who can’t afford private healthcare around me dies in the street, i can afford it so I’m alright and so don’t see why I should pay for them” conveniently ignoring the fact those people are your friends, your companies customers, your ailing mothers care worker, your kids scout leader, your binman, your child’s teaching assistant.
These people think they go through life entirely on their own, they live with blinkers on and don’t see the massive society that surrounds them and supports them every day in millions of small ways.
@@tomvandersteen5880Well said.
Yep we sick of paying for everyone
@@Koi-addict33 Fine. Then don’t, I say keep all your money and just pay for everything yourself. But don’t be expecting an ambulance to show up when you need it, get yourself a private one. Don’t be expecting to have your bins collected, hire someone to dispose of them for you (but not in the publicly funded skip mind you). Don’t be expecting any basic social care if you are paralysed in an accident and your funds eventually run out, you can be left to fend for yourself on the streets, don’t expect the police to investigate your burgled house, get yourself a private investigator. Don’t be complaining when crime goes through the roof in your area when poorer people turn to it due to the lack of a safety net, best get a contractor out and put up some barbed wire.
You don’t exist in a vacuum. You benefit from every shared social provision and benefits package that exists even if they don’t apply to you directly. Stop being so self centred.
This is why I moved out of Basingstoke in 2018 too many Daniels knocking about
What a smooth brain! When he calms down i hope he can reflects on what a fool he was, although i doubt he had the capacity.
It'll be the opposite. He'll be all HYPED UP that he gave the LBC presenter a piece of his mind because nobody else bothers to listen to him. Especially his sprogs because he didn't love them enough to WORK HARDER and send them to a posh school. 😂
All of these brexit reform fans are nuts
Yeah the presenter was a typical LBC champagne millionaire socialist living a luxurious life in london’s more prosperous areas no doubt built by free markets not a centrally planned economy. All socialists are intellectually vacuous and filled with the politics of envy
7:01 "For example, I can afford private healthcare, why am I then paying for everybody else?"
I didn't think I'd see the day when a Brit is arguing against universal healthcare - but it's 2024, anything can happen.
Many our against Socialist healthcare- we believe in efficiency, ie the German and French approach.
Univeraal yup come from pakistan and get thousands of pounds of free treatment paid for by hard working folk
Well the NHS is clearly not working. The only other country in the World with this system is Cuba. Are the Brits tryi g to say that the German, French, Dutch, Swedish, Danish, Spanish etc syatems are inferior? .
Yes cutting corporation tax would kick start the economy. There has already been an exodus out of Britain - why would anyone want to invest in the UK? Why precisely?
@@notbaltic280Cutting corporate tax rates has been repeatedly and undeniably proven to not do anything for economies 🤦
The fact these people can vote is horrifying
I mean Labour voters can vote, which is far worse.
@@sonofsomerset1695 you breathe oxygen, which is pretty much theft...
@@jameshansing5396 Yeah yeah, Im sure youd love to live in your lefty echo chamber unchallenged by reailty.
@@sonofsomerset1695what a gimpy comeback 🤣🤣🤣
It’s why we have Brexit
Tell me you've fallen for the lies and don't fact check anything without telling me you've fallen for the lies and don't fact check anything....... 🤯
This is my time too shine ✨🤪🤭
Like Labour 🤔🤔
Let's at least give them a chance labour and tory have both proven themselves to lie once in office, let's give someone else the chance to be different.
@@ellistitheridge3851 ?
@carlitor4173 And farage has proven to lie BEFORE in office, and what you expect him o stop if given the chance.
Didn't you learn from boris Johnson?
“The NHS hasn’t worked for 10 years”
Wonder what political change happened around that time
It hasn't worked for 30
@@Skidddersss strange when all statistics point to record satisfaction in 2010 under Brown. But i guess you know better 👍
@@Gezzer21 you're right... at a cost of billions of pounds over the odds. Offsetting quality with quantity isn't the answer... and thanks too, I do 👍
Nhs is bled by private companies and overburdened by management. To many cowboys.
@@Skidddersss You are so wrong, you can see the clear difference under labour against the tories. Maybe use some data, lets says deaths per year. Compare the number of deaths per year under previous labour government, then take a look at what happened from 2010 until know, from 2012 more people started dying per year, and its gone up ever since, yet under the last Labour government it went down. Its a clear indication that under labour the services that require the money get it, under the tories they are stripped of it and in turn people diy.
Wait until he has to sell his house to pay for healthcare bill when the insurance don’t cough up
Exactly. No insurance company is going to cover people who need repeat procedures or persistent health problems at an affordable cost. We all know insurance companies balk at the idea of having to pay out.
Or if he needs social care when he’s older hey
Don’t worry, he’ll have dementia by then so won’t know what’s going on and there won’t be any consequences in his own mind
Or remove lending options to buy a house, and get buyers to come up with the actual cash. See how many then say they want a free market. Debt is new money created by banks. Take away that right and see how the "rich" fare.
Which private hospital accepts private insurance patients without an authorisation code covering the consultation or condition?
So Daniel gets hit by a car, a private ambulance takes hit to a private hospital? Didn't know that.
Nah. He said there wouldn't be one.
Doesn't seem to realise that an ambulance under private health in America costs $2500++.
@@bobsurface908 It's probably more than that now. It cost $2500 more than a decade ago when me and my friend had an unsuccessful mountain biking trip to Utah
@@stevec6427 Yep. It depends on each locality. In some places people started helicopter emergency services and the fees could go into six figures. The people they carried had no say as they were usually unconscious but might not be that badly injured etc. It's not bad that the company charges for trauma transport, but that they were >extremely< profitable due to massive overcharging and their passengers never had a say.
In my state heli trauma transport is done by the state itself and there is a cap on what they charge insurance for getting you there.
Daniel should figure out how medical bankruptcy works because that's what he is also suggesting even if he doesn't know it.
@@dreamcoyote When we were there, we had no say because my friend had a broken femur (I told him he couldn't ride that jump, I was right) and moving someone with a broken femur can be extremely dangerous (possibly fatal) so we had to get an ambulance for emergency assistance. Fortunately, his medical insurance covered it but I know many policies don't
Exactly what I thought, the NHS also important for public health.
This Daniel really is a shouty version of Daily Mail bingo. I bet he´s a total barrel of laughs in his local ´Spoons.
Fr. Making my blood boil listening to him coming in all aggressive. Like calm tf down
I can almost guarantee you that this guy is using the NHS, went to a state school, doesnt have a high paying job and just blames everyone around him for the fact he isnt all the things he things he should be.
And he didn't love his brats enough to WORK HARDER to send them to a private school.
I can almost guarantee the same thing about you! What I know for sure is he is braver than you.
@@verity0078 Live next door to Daniel, do you? Been to his house and had dinner with his family, have you? What I know for sure is that you do not know him. And only speak from a position of ignorance.
@@verity0078brave 😂
@joeegg90 wouldn't go anywhere near a fool like Daniel. He's a blithering shouty toddler man who's probably living at his parents 😂
“GIVE ME TAX CUTS” followed by “THERES NO MONEY IN PUBLIC SERVICES” is a wild take
And then BLAME IMMIGRANTS, when nothing works!
It's the Liz truss argument all over again "Big tax cuts will magically bring growth and prosperity".
You'd think these people would remember our mortgages and pensions being hammered in October 2022.
They have such short memories.
Non of you are listening through your ears or engaging your brains. Listen with an open mind not legs,get off your backs.
@@wingcommanderdaltonwalton67nice bit of random misogyny in there, where did that come from??
Anyhow, the manifesto is utter nonsense
tax cuts followed by bringing down immigration drastically, and by having people remove themselves from the NHS which is garbage, and by having people remove their kids from fully taxpayer-funded schools which are subpar, hopefully improving the actual intake in tax by having a higher % of people in jobs so we can actually afford those public services that are currently dismal
" What happens if you want an Ambulance?"
" You don't get one."
Lunacy.
£3000 to call out an ambulance. It better get there on time, in that case.
A jumped up transit van
Already a decafe ago my infant daughter had a head injury, I called for an abulance, was told one was coming within 12minutes, 20mins I called back was told 2 had already been sent, then redirected, but to hold tight. Another 20mins passed I called again & was told 3 had been sent & redirected & when I asked whether this was likely to continue indefinitely they said they didn't know & higher priority cases kept pushing ours down the list.
So we took her ourselves an hour after we could have had we known how useless & broken the system already was then.
Scenario: Daniel is lying unconscious in the road, blood pouring from a head wound.
Witness 1: “Call 999 now, while I try and determine if this guy has opted out from AmbulanceCare.”
Witness 2: *dials 999* “Yes, we need an ambulance, but just give us a few minutes first to determine if they have opted out from paying their taxes… yes, I’m still here… no, we’re not getting any response from the injured person… okay, we’ve found his ID in his wallet, can you look-up on the system to check…”
@@Hascienda27We wish. We're stuck with Fiats that break down every few weeks.
However, I find your comment grossly offensive. Yes our vehicles are basically vans, but your comment disrespects the years of hard study that go into training as a paramedic - a highly skilled medical professional who can deal with anything from delivering a baby to making someone comfortable at the end of their life and literally any serious condition in between those 2 points.
"It doesn't work" - About a week ago I had to go into A&E with a torn retina. By the end of the day I had an op to laser pin my retina back in place. I had a superb experience with the NHS.
🙄 I had a friend who was told at 26 she was 'too young to have breast cancer' when she visited her GP with a complaint. When they eventually took her seriously it was too late to do anything about it.
What they mean is we can't profit from it
Meanwhile, people are on a long waiting list for cancer treatment. But hey, you got your retina sorted.
Now go back and have them look at your brain.
@@JAWS-qj1rj Sorry I didn't realise I was not allowed to give my own very recent experience. Also did I say all was right in the NHS? Go pick arguments elsewhere.
@@just-a-yt-guy Perhaps it's the other eye that is the blind eye you've turned on the NHS? 🤷♂️
Clearly Daniel is traumatised because he didnt have sky tv as a child
And his parents didn't love him enough to send him to private school because they couldn't be bothered to WORK HARDER.
ANd cleary you were brainwashed by lefty Sky propaganda, thats why you like LBC so much as well.
In Sweden we have high tax, high wages, and a high quality of life. 😁🇸🇪🇪🇺
Can't afford 20% on fees - Get a job then
Maybe you should stop having avocado on toast and coffee, if you can’t afford a 20% increase in your private school fees
Let's put 20% on all uni fees too since it's not essential
Get rid of Sky TV
@@freddysw Maybe you should stop living on takeaways and getting your nails done if you cant afford to feed your kids.
@@jt5765 what's the alternative to unis?
Yes, the reason teacher numbers are down is because the continuing numbers of immigrants into the country are increasing class sizes and numbers of children…
It’s nothing to do with the intense pressure, constant scrutiny, ridiculous workload, low rates of pay, years of neglect and negativity from the government…
The guy mentions how he doesn’t read the Tory manifesto and just proven he didn’t read the Reform one either 😂😂😂😂
1:05 "I don't even bother reading..."
Yep, I believe him.
I dont think he can read.
At one point he says 'we' not 'they' talking about Reform. I think he may be standing for them without reading the manifesto
Most reform voters have made their mind up before the manifesto landed, it matters not how bad reform policies and they are atrocious, people like Daniel are convinced that proven liar and fraud Farage is the UK savior
Can't afford to send your child to private school because of 20% tax?
Get a better job. Isn't that the mantra?
Maybe if these people spent less money on Netflix and Avocado Toast they could afford to send Minty and Douglas to Wellington College.
This^
Wow!🤯Why nobody came up with this genius solution before?🤔
Exactly.
I want an Aston Martin. Can I stop paying taxes please?
Daniel, are you reading this? You have about as much political savvy as my dog.
Do you love your dog?
Then your dog is more savvy.
Little Danny doesn't care what anyone but himself thinks or says. He especially doesn't care about his brats enough to WORK HARDER and send them to a posh school that's been registered as a private charity for tax purposes.
Not true my dog is more clever than him
4:31 “… then we’re schooling ‘em, we’re feeding ‘em” - you can tell by the way he says ‘FEEDING’ that there’s nothing more offensive to Daniel than the idea of feeding refugees when we could be cutting corporate tax rates instead.
Poor people should just get more money. Well I’m convinced.
but don't take it from the rich...
It's an idea which doesn't add up. There is a finite amount of jobs and within that number, a finite number within each level of pay. All the people on lower paid jobs moving up to higher pay can only happen if those in higher paid jobs move to lower pay. It's a ridiculous suggestion that the tories and reform always use
@alfsmith4936 The rich have taken it from us
I'm ashamed it took me this long to figure out this one simple trick
Wow, he is one angry man 😮😮😮
"Go get a job where you can afford it" Sweet suffering jesus
If someone truly wants to send their child to private school they will find the ways and means to do it.
@trytellingthetruth.2068 thicko. You think everyone has the bank of mum and dad chucking money at them to afford luxuries? And yes, children are a luxury, private education for the said children is a luxury.
So everyone should have a right, human right that is, to send their kids to private school?
@@EskiLdnThey do.
@@trytellingthetruth.2068 And another person who thinks poor people choose to be poor
So if all the road sweepers and cleaners and shelf stackers and bar staff all go and get better jobs to send their kids to private school, who will do those jobs? Absolute melt
Well this guy definitely isn’t doing Reform any favours lol
Unfortuantely for anyone else in society reformers will hear this and think he won a major debate for them
Most reform voters don't watch LBC.
I'm a Reform voter who did and this video changed nothing.
Sorry.
@@MixedMartialHelp you just carry on voting for empty promises and corruption. Surely the main parties have nothing left they can promise us that they haven't already broken. What is it with people that keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Who cares if reform do better they can't possibly do any worse and it's time our political class remembers that we can vote them out if we want. Stop falling for the bs. They all need to be fired, simple as that.
Honestly I've seen voters talk about their parties. Most people don't know what they are talking about when it comes to politics
This guy is classic Boris Fan. Believe the lies and then argue why the lies are right. And that's exactly what Reform are doing. Populism. I'm amazed they haven't signed Boris up already
My fear is there are many more Daniels out there 😦
I know one he's my best mate, we can't talk politics anymore.. 😢😢😢
Too many unfortunately
Yes and if they had the system they talk about, they would run to the Government for money.
I know a few, too. They're a minority, but less of a minority than they used to be.
About 15-20% of the voting population …
Kids, Daniel is the reason you should stay in school! What an absolute melt he is.
This guy has the vote. Remember that if you feel like you can’t be bothered to get out on the 4th of July. AND REMEMBER YOUR ID.
Loool...private healthcare doesn't treat 999 emergencies or many other complex health conditions. This caller is too dumb for words!
I wonder if these people support police insurance or fire brigade insurance as well
Private healthcare is Not an emergency service, no A&E
But it's the only way to get most treatment in a timely manner
@@Koi-addict33you've missed my only point
There is no arguing with an angry person.
Or a brainwashed one.
@@peterspowage5752 Were on course for a Labour government so there must be a lot of brainwashed people out there.
"You can't see a teacher."
Yeah, Daniel... That's evident. You clearly didn't. 😂
This crank went full shrieking Karen 😂 hilarious
😂
Wow. He sounds crazy!
Using the name Karen in this way is rude.
Vocal diarrhoea
Angry little Daniel living in Basingstoke, basically one of the least deprived areas in the country, 10 minutes down the road from the area voted the nicest place to live in the country several years in a row (Hart District).
He should work harder shouldn’t he.
As another Stoke-ite, I will say it's not all roses. There's some idyllic little suburbs around the edge, but the town itself is rapidly collapsing into a dreary and dysfunctional place.
That said, with the money that Danny boy here claimed to have, he should have no problem seeing a dentist.
@@django3422 Basingstoke town centre has been grim for decades, and it's nothing to do with immigration, it's like any medium-sized town that relied on local business offices and footfall from weekend shoppers, both of which have declined massively since people started working remotely, offices moved out of towns into big business parks or majority cities, and people started mostly shopping online instead of on the high street.
It's not the fault of a few thousand Eritrean refugees that no one can be bothered to go to Festival Place anymore. (Not saying you're saying this btw)
@@XAVR_ I agree totally. And our problems are no different than those affecting the majority of the country.
For what it's worth, my perspective is limited, I don't hear much support for the likes of Reform from other working class Brits around here. That's not to say there's an air of solidarity around these issues, more the opposite, but apathy seems to have a stronger hold on people here than xenophobia.
Angry Danny lives in Basingstoke but still couldn't afford to send his kids to posh school because he didn't love them enough to WORK HARDER.
I think I exceeded my daily dose of gammon today.
The closer the election comes the more they squirm.
Nice racism.
at least he proved the point there is a lack of teachers..........
I can't remember a time where the government, media etc weren't constantly carping on about how the NHS is underfunded and broken, how about letting people walk into the surgery and be able to book an appointment at any time, that'd be a start.
Book an appointment with whom? The Tories only put forward a proper workforce strategy after 13 years of being in power. They've cancelled the nursing bursary and mysteriously no one wants to get 30k in debt to earn a supermarket checkout salary. They've starved funds for training contracts for speciality trainees (doctors), while pushing non-medical training pathways like associates. The associates everyone seems to moan about, without realising who pushed them in the first place. Meanwhile they've imported thousands of immigrants to work for rhe NHS, while also complaining about immigrants. It took me 14 years from F1 to consultant. It'll take the next government a decade to catch up with Tory mismanagement to be able to offer enough staff for your "starting point". I don't disagree with your sentiment, it's just insane how badly the Tories have eroded basic foundations of the NHS. Like training, valuing and retaining staff for you to see.
There’s nothing more dangerous that people who peddle simple answers to complex questions.
Those poor people sending their kids to private school having to pay VAT. Absolute lunacy.
Yep let them go to state schools instead - that’ll help with class sizes
@@mogznwaz you know what will help with class sizes? 6,500 extra teachers... 🟥
labour front bench. hello ?
@@mogznwazNo they should just work harder, take less holidays and give up their Netflix subscriptions…
@@mogznwaz 7% of under 16s are in private education. Worst case would be a class size increase of 2
However it's more accurate to suggest that less an quarter will be affected by the VAT increase and the class increase will be negligible. There is an argument that it would be affect schools more in areas of higher socioeconomic brackets but those schools are better resourced.
The debate on VAT for private schools is bizarre.
Daniel: "they should just eat cake"
"No they said getting it under control"
"No they're promising net zero migration"
"Yes" 😂
With his logic he says they need to get better job to send your child to private school well so should he
The way the media is carrying on you wouldn't think anyone else was standing for this election except Nigel Farage. They give him way to much attention.
Thas because he is set to be PM. S
We are in need of a far right govt
Dude, my son and daughter in law are both teachers, they can hardly afford to pay their mortgage let alone afford to send their children to private school.
so why cant parents who can not afford the vat on schools not get a better job!
Exactly.
"why am i paying for everyone else" because we live in a society and your success is dependent on everyone else. Would you rather be the richest person in North Korea or the top 10% in the UK?
Anywhere in the top 99.9% would better than NK
I've lived in places where I wasn't earning much but I was earning way better than everyone else. It is HORRIBLE and terribly expensive.
If my success depends on everybody else, but not on me, I would prefer not to do anything at all.
@Zelenone that is what people want to believe but most people are inspired to give back. Society gave me so much and I work like a horse daily to pay back the debt.
@@tinachristine4573so lets make taxes optimal, if everyone is so inspired to pay for everybody else why should we force people to pay taxes and more taxes for the most successful ones, that looks like a punishment for success.
Aww bless.. He must have been up all night writing that monologue.
The he had a meltdown and went into KAREN MODE.
Daniel: LAbour are not sticking a 20% tax on their school fees. They are simply removing an existing tax break, totally different thing
Private schools profits have gone up drastically. No reason to pass on VAT to parents. Just greed again. Thatcher legacy
Lets get an average Labour voter on and interrogate them about all of Labour's policies and see how they do shall we? I guarentee they'd be far worse.
Didn't take long for the caller to show his true colours.
That's because LBC presenters are well practiced in finding one weak point to discredit the caller, and stick on that, if they start losing they quickly change the subject.
@@sonofsomerset1695 He managed soon enough to discredit himself without any prompting from the presenter whatsoever.
Where is Daniel standing as an MP? He must be, his practiced rhhetoric and sound bites are superb. "No-ones said those things" "But Daniel, they are 4 of the Reform manifesto" Daniel "Yes" carries on spouting.
Actually he set Kentish straight, Reform's tax breaks and scrapping net zero will make the poor far better off, so shows your brainwashing.
So people who use private health care don't owe the NHS anything so should not pay. Great then who trained the private doctors and nurses??? That would be the NHS mate!
That caller has been radicalized by Farage.
This station clearly is totally left wing .vote reform
That’s OK they all took the safe effective stops transmission fully tested
@@ak7306 Are you a rich baron oligarch? No? then vote left.
@@IzinTheBzin don't think so lefty
@@ak7306Since LBC employs people of all political persuasion, how is it totally Left wing? Other than you saying it of course. Though what’s funny is your solution to 14 years of a Tory government is to vote for Tories on steroids.
Most consultants work part time for private health companies, I suspect that this contributes to longer NHS waiting times
‘Don’t be so emotional about the NHS’ says man most emotional about the NHS
If you want to lower immigration you need to invest in training your domestic workforce, increasing public sector salaries so it's not pulling in cheap foreign labour and invest in infrastructure as well as massively overhauling labour laws and regulation getting rid of zero hour low wage and cutting out outsourcing or having full transparency of workers pay and conditions if you are.
Low tax = high migration it's a feature not a bug
Labour are out to prove we need immigrant workers by forcing companies to create training places for every work visa they get.
Soon we would have thousands of unfilled training places because we don’t have the people to fill them!
It genuinely baffles me as to how anyone can still lap up what these snakes say after they completely tanked the country last time based on a bunch of lies - which, may I remind anyone - we still haven’t recovered from.
That caller is soooooooooooooooo far down the rabbit hole, he's practically at the centre of the earth.
And it's cooked his brain.
But the issue is there are grains of truth in his argument and people fall for it as they don't have the attention spans.
@@TheWebstaff I completely agree, but they are so wrapped up with absolute bull that are not worth the excavation.
Except he probably thinks the Earth is flat.
Another entertaining bell end
Which one?
I did quite enjoy listening to his inner Karen. What a melt.
Daniel is the classic, 'The have and the have nots'. If you've got the money, then great, if not tough!! That's why there's over 50,000,000 people in the USA have got NO access to medical care whatsoever!! That's 20% of the USA population!! No access to Dr's or dentists!! We must do everything we can to ensure that Daniels world doesn't come to the UK!! Farage and his merry men/women want that for the UK! The first step is a Labour government!!
An American-style system where even if you can get medical insurance cover, then doesn't pay out when you get sick, is a terrifying thought. Farage is on record, back when he was in UKIP, of saying he wanted us to move to an insurance-based system. Don't fall for his lies - Reform UK would ruin this country if they ever got power or did a deal with the Tory Right to prop them up!
Private health provision has no A&E so that's not going to work Daniel son.
Don't confuse these people with facts 😉
Another issue with private hospitals is most don't have ICUs, so you have to hope the operation goes smoothly with no complications, otherwise you're on your way to the NHS ICU and hope they can get you there on time.
So who do I get when I ring 0118, 999, 881, 999, 119, 725...3?
(IT Crowd reference for those who miss it...)
@@adrianhjordan1981it’s the new number for 999 😂😂😂
Wow! where did Daniel get his education? From Turning Point uk?
The NHS did work before they got sold off and run as businesses.
The NHS hasn’t worked since the advent of mass immigration from the 3rd world
Typical Labour voter, living in fantasy land, you're about to get a rude awakening when Labour makes things even worse, although I'm sure you'll try and blame it on Brexit.
Daniel is fighting back for the "right community " nice to hear his sort flailing loving it long live the boats 😊
Was Daniel ringing from a mental health facilty.
No plenty agree obs you don’t but you have to be insulting just like the left as usual PS I don’t vote but see you
Yes , he’s in the bed next to you
Only the other patients are fed up with you!
@@chrisanten2396there’s also plenty of people in mental health facilities; what’s your point?
Plus, if you don’t vote, then what makes you think you have a valid opinion? If you can’t be bothered even to spoil your ballot then why should anyone bother with you or your observations?
@@Dinadino994 still insulting then I see
@@chrisanten2396you can agree but you’d be just as wrong as this deluded caller my guy 😂
I read an interesting article yesterday on allowing children to vote. The 3 main objections in the comments were;
- They’re too gullible and easily manipulated
- They don’t understand the nuances of public spending and taxation
- They’re too selfish and won’t appreciate the ramifications of their decisions.
Ahem.
And, I’ll add, mysteriously learn all those things in a year.
And they are allowed to get married and bring up children!
Perfect descriptions of tabloid readers.
I bet it was them that said those things too
Danny boy is engaging in Gish-gallop
They tell people what they want to hear. Those they con say it must be possible because Farage said so.
He did the same with Brexit,
Erm, what you've said applies to every party 😂
@@LunaticAsylum01 If the party has no chance of getting into power. Look at the spending differences. Reform want to spend more than 8x as much as Labour, but also cut taxes across the board. Where's the money coming from?
@@BumbleyBoo I've skim read their manifesto and they are putting sources for saving money; whether that is real or achievable i have no idea because om not an economist by trade. I'm not going to read the labour one to do a comparison thanks, I've voted for them more than any other party previously but certainly not even willing to entertain the idea at this point.
Bonkers how people that are disappointed with the Tories just don't think *they're Tory enough.*
Tories are indistinguishable from Labour at this point.
@@TheMactabanoye They have completely different economic policies. Labour are focused on ensuring public services are well funded, the Conservatives want lower taxes at the expenses of public services.
never ever trust a socialist or a tory.
theyve literaly done nothing centre right. High taxes, high immigration, big state big spending. Its bonkers people dont realise this.
It’s bonkers that these Tory’s don’t think they are Tory’s anymore…!?! Then point fingers at the Tory’s they’ve supported all their dumb arsed lives..!?! 🤭😝🤣 then walk over to REFORM as if thats going to bring more competent Conservative policies..!?!
Private health is not a NECESSITY - it is a LUXURY and luxury goods have VAT attached.
I get private healthcare through my employer, and I’m grateful for it. And that’s a taxable benefit, which I of course pay the tax on via PAYE. And I still have no problem helping to fund the NHS. It’s patched me up and sent me on my way multiple times during my youth.
If it were taxed then the NHS could be better funded and it would no longer be a necessity
Wow. Ben nailed it. I'm a teacher on top of the pay scale. My Wife is a nurse. We could only afford 1 child when she was born. Now we're a bit better off. But we cannot afford to send our Daughter to private school. So we are exactly what Ben is talking about. Plenty of people cannot get "a better job" and so cannot afford to go private. This caller has no idea about how the real world is working in this country. Reform are basically Tory+. More tax cuts, less spending, less immigrants, no accountability. Private NHS. We've tried this, let's try something else. Reform isn't something new, it's going back to the 80s.
And let me guess, you're both Labour voters and believe we can change the climate with net zero?
Daniel says u should just work harder. I don’t know what you don’t understand! I mean u and your wife are educated people. Daniel on the other hand sounds like he didn’t benefit from an education and yet can understand that it’s all about working harder and his bosses paying less tax then maybe he will be a boss like them. Cmon wake up a little ;). It’s so simple when Daniel says it!
The NHS didn't 'just work' it was the best in the world until the tories started underfunding it and funnelling more of it's budget to private companies. Everyone who says it's an outdated model doesn't realise they're just talking about the Tories version of the NHS.
Private emergency services are a joke, imagine your house byrning down because you didnt pay for your fire insurance.
Nonsense
Also, the NHS used to work. Under New Labour waitimg times were halved
Those parents who then can't afford private school should join the rest 93% who can't afford it or "gEt A bEtTeR JoB"
Typical Reform voter "I'm going to keep talking over you until you give up, therefore I am right!"
He was right, Reform policies are clearly better for working people than Lab or Tory. Huge tax breaks and cheaper energy and fuel.
At the end there where the caller goes high-pitched and screams, "It hasn't worked for ten years!" he's correct. Now if he'll just look at who the NHS does work under, and who it never works under, and we can guide him through the heavy thinking parts...
This guy needs help....quickly
Call an ambulance! Oh wait ✋️
"You can't see a Doctor, you can't see a Dentist" says caller who doesn't realise that he just highlighted the 2 areas in which the NHS has been massively privatised!!
It was privertise by liebour not torys
@@glenquinn6853grammar not your strong point then 😂
@@glenquinn6853 That is some sweeping statement! It is true that Labour played a part in the "privertisation," but they were not wholly responsible. Tories have done a great deal.
Margaret Thatcher started the privatisation of the NHS in the 90s. Labour may have also during their government. But the state you are seeing it in now is thanks to the Tories over the past 14 years. 🙄@@glenquinn6853
Daniel is an economic genius - all our problems will be solved if everyone becomes super-wealthy, simples!
As a public sector worker i am just about breaking even. 😅 sure i can find 40 grand for private school. Work harder scrubs.
They are not a party. They are a company. What is their motive and WHO is bankrolling them?
1) Money
2) Bankers
Lizz truss tax cut package!
they are being bankrolled by russia.
They are all companies are they not?
@@MeatFeast-qk7ndno, not at all. The only “party” standing in this election that is registered at Companies House is UKIP/Brexit/Reform.
more bs from the gullible gammon.
Daniel‘a idea that they should just get a job that pays more is astounding. And that not doing so shows they don’t love their children. Never occurred to me.
Caller says if you can't afford to send your kid to a private school you should get a better job. Ok in that case if you can't afford the tax break, get a better job.
The caller sounds unhinged.
1 in 5 people share some of this guys views. Its frightening.
You just heard his inner Karen.
Youd be unhinged too if you had a biased propagandist twisting your words.
@@sonofsomerset1695 Farage, you mean?
The cheek of this guy supporting a party with Farage in it. Then running down the NHS saying it dont work with with all that £350million a week brexit bonus...Cant even see the irony in it.
If we run the NHS just using British staff, it would be 2/3rds the size.
They would have to come up with a system to exclude 1/3rd of the population..
Like the USA!
"WELL WHAT TAX ARE YOU GOING TO INCREASE TO PAY TEACHERS MORE?!?!?!?!?!?!"
Ummmm, VAT on private school fees?
I had a heart attack three weeks ago the NHS worked for me I’m still alive thanks to the NHS
why do people who claim "cOmMoN sEnEse" are never the brightest
Well they dont vote Labour, so they must have some.
I see Brexit hasn't made these people any less angry.
You mean compared to the people still crying because they lost 8 years ago?
They have to blame someone. It was the Europeans holding us back. Now it's the immigrants in those boats. Then it will be the poor. When things are bad people want someone to blame and the people in charge try to distract us with a victim who cannot defend themselves.
@@gucciadjective7745but brexit voters won so what’s their excuse?!
@@sharronwood4486 We aren't crying?
I really despair that people want more of the same and not willing to even take a chance with something different. For gods sake the system we have been living in for the past 20+ years does not work!!
Cant believe there are people out there talking about willingly giving up rights to healthcare, and human rights, etc mainly because they are angry that some people arrive in a dinghy every day.
You can’t reason with stupidity. Brexit taught us all that
Will you still be blaming Brexit when Labour make things even worse? I bet you will.
@@sonofsomerset1695 nobody cares about Brexit. The only reason to mention it now is to highlight that a significant minority of the population can STILL be manipulated at will by whatever GB News or TalkTV are spouting off about that week. It’s a symbol of everything that’s wrong with this country
Reform ltd formed by millionaires supported by millionaires the clue is in millionaires.?????
…and? It just proves they are legit…how would you spend YOUR money ?
Same as Sir Starmer sure he's not short of a few quid just like the Billionaire Sunak ... they all are minted. There is no difference.
Any way I'm off to Lidls to see what they have on offer.
@@alisondowling2581 No, it doesn't.. They are the establishment, pretending to be working class.
@@alisondowling2581 how does it prove they are legit? its a bunch of rich people wanting to pay even less tax and cut services to the bone.
@@rightywizard at least starmer made his money not born with it.
In regards to the point of the NHS funding. Yes, the Tories of the past 14 years have kept on increasing funding for it, so NHS funding has gone up year after year. But, the rate in which government funding for NHS has drastically decreased. So, in essence, the amount of projected money that the NHS was expecting (if the rate of funding had kept up with the labour government) has drastically fallen to what it is now. So, the NHS can work, but it needs to be properly funded. The sad thing is, in 2010, around the time the Tories came into power, the NHS was seen as well funded well managed, with GP appointments being met, a surplus of dentists, the A&E was not overly burdened.
In my view, after 14 years of Tory rule, the NHS is pretty much exactly where the Tories want it to be. In shambles and waiting to be privatised.
"Daniel from Basingstoke" sounds a lot like a Reform activist tbh, either way he is a total tool
Brighter than you, thats for sure.
I know - how about just keep raising taxes and pumping more money into all public services. Oh hang on we are already doing that. Oh hang on all the parties are already suggesting that.
Or how about run services more efficiently cutting out any waste of money and focus on what the service was meant to deliver in the first place.
The problem with the public sector is it never has to take waste seriously because there are no consequences. The end user/tax payer feels the effects of poor services. If we run businesses the way we run the public services they would go bust.
By having open debates on these problems it raises more awareness of the real issues and over time brings along more people to accept change that benefits all who use them.
Just doing the same thing as you’ve always done. Well we all know where that leads.
Let's take a look at privatised public utilities, like say the water industry, that is a business, and waste ( but not the kind to which you refer) is very much a problem, now, because we cannot afford the companies to go bust. Then there are the railways, perhaps we should take away their subsidies and let them go bust. That would increase the volume of traffic on our already run down over used road systems.
So let's privatise roads, think of the taxes that would save.
The real waste in public services is the outsourcing functions to profit making private providers who primarily serve the interests of shareholders, not the public. That's where a lot of your money goes.
Ben Kentish is so wrong. I have 3 nhs consultant friends working in London hospitals. All 3 without exception say the nhs receives too much money but is grossly mismanaged and I believe all 3.
LIAR.....
The Private healthcare system benefits hugely from the nhs.
They get a steady supply of trained medical professionals, they can focus on profitable and easy routine things like hip replacements, they can avoid costly things like long term care for the elderly.
The NHS props up the private sector.
We’ll see how much bonehead’s premiums go up when his health insurer has to pay to run an independent ambulance service.
And if something goes wrong during surgery, they ring 999 and an NHS ambulance turns up to take you to an NHS hospital.
I mean, he is a reform/UKIP voter in a nutshell; tons of impotent rage and next to zero intelligence 🤣
Well he sounds like a kind chap........