Kia ora from NZ. One note at 23:27 you say put the petcock into the Pri position, this is incorrect as I just found. The next shot you have it in the on position where it should be. Pri or Res will let fuel flow, only On will stop it. Otherwise great tutorial. I just did mine at 13k and the exhaust was a little tight at 0.18mm but I left it for now and will loosen them up next time. Thanks for the great tutorial.
You make excellent instructional and educational content. I do not own a dr650 but your videos are enjoyable and are slowly swaying me in that direction
Glad you are enjoying the videos, and thank you for the feedback. If you do buy a motorcycle whether a DR650 or other, it is an enjoyable hobby that can be very rewarding and fun. Thank you for the comment Dino
Thank you Dino making these videos for free. This is thousands of dollars in mechanic fees that I'll be saving. I bought an '02 DR650 with 15k miles this year. It's my first bike and I'll be doing all the maintenance I can! Thanks again John
Thanks, Dino! I genuinely appreciate learning about all the components, the slower paced informational lessons. I’m not a mechanic, hence why I am here! Thanks as well for making time chapters for those who want to skip to their needs! Well done!
Thank you for the feedback, I am also not a mechanic but I like to learn, I am glad you find the information useful and also the time code chapters. Dino
Thank you for posting your valve adjustment video. I knew that if you did a video on valve adjustment it would be very detailed and correct. There are several videos on youtube about valve adjustment but yours is the one people need to watch everything is clear and precise. Thanks again for a great video.
Thank you Robert J, I am glad you enjoyed it an I really appreciate the feedback. I will continue to develop this style of content. Thank you again Dino
Great job Dino.👍 I also use dielectric grease on my plugs but I use a cotton ear bud and put a smear inside the spark plug boot that way it ensures that there is a waterproof seal completely around the spark plug insulator and there less mess and wastage.
Alright! Now this is brilliant. Jumped right into it, packed full of direct to the point instructions, broken up for every skill level. Nice work Dino! This reminds me of some of my favorite how to shows like How it's Made. I could see this being used as a factory training video. Nice shop rag BTW, a man of my own heart! And, I forgive you, thank you for trying 😉. Sub 336, waiting for some more great quality content. 👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you for the feedback, Its hard to find the right balance for these videos, but good solid comments both positive and critical are required to hone in on what people want. I appreciate that you took the time to be direct and honest in your initial comment, and I am doing my best to incorporate everyone's feedback to make the channel better. Everyone stumbles as they go along at something new ( I picked up a camera for the first time 2.5 months ago) but with help I think they can get where they want to go. Thank you again Dino
Great informative video Dino! Thanks for such a clear and detailed instruction. Looking forward to watching your channel. Greetings from Western Australia.
Dino, Thank you for explaining this procedure to folks that want to venture into doing their own maintenance. I would like to bring a couple issues to your attention that may get some folks confused. You mention that the valves needed to be adjusted at TDC (top dead center) but you did not mention that the must be adjusted at TDC -on the compression stroke only, not on the exhaust stroke. Verifying TDC with the timing mark is essential as some folks just look at the rising piston through the spark plug hole and the piston reaches TDC on the exhaust stroke also, but that is not the place where you adjust the valves. Rotating the motor in the proper direction is important also, it needs to be the same direction the engine runs on each bike as some engines run in reverse to make the wheels go forward. Also, at about 4:40 in your video you mention and point with your pointer that the intake and exhaust gases enter and exit up and down the valve stem and that is not correct, they go in and out of the combustion chamber via the intake and exhaust ports which you left out of your green sectioned cutaway illustration. The valve guide and their seals are there to support the valve stem and prevent gasses from flowing around them. You have a patient manner you present your information which is great for beginners, well done. Cheers. 😁
Dino, you are the man! Thanks so much for making these videos. I don't know what the hell I am doing mechanically, but I bought the DR650 with the hopes of learning how to do it myself. Well I am doing it myself, but if it waasn't for you I would be paying some shop way too much money for something I could just do myself. Thanks for teaching us!
Wow! thank you very much, you are to kind. I am really glad you find the videos helpful enough to give you confidence to tackle the jobs on your own, that's great!. I have had several professional mechanics tell me, it is just turning wrenches, just keep yourself organized and most people can do just about any job they want. I am by no means an expert and I still learn stuff everyday, forums like DRRiders is also a great resource for new and experienced DR owners alike to share knowledge and information in a great community setting and I would highly recommend anyone who owns a DR650 to check out. Thank you again Dino
This was an outstanding tutorial on how to do this job. Really appreciate your tips and tricks! I had no idea that a #2 square drive was the same size, enabling you to make your own holding tool so easily, that was fantastic!
Thanks for filming and sharing these videos, Dino. So relaxing and informative. You've given me confidence to tinker myself. In fact I'm inspired to get an old DR and learn how to do the servicing and upgrades. Love your work!. Thanks mate.
Thank you so much for the comments, I am not an expert either, we all learn by doing, your on the right track! Thank you again for taking the time to comment Dino
I am glad the information was usefully. Good luck with the 250, I like the small displacement bikes. My last bike before the DR was TZR250. Not quite a dual sport but still fun. Thanks for the comment. Dino
Thank you, its not my idea but it is a great tip that seems to work well. I wish I could remember where I learned it so I could pass on the credit. Thanks for the feedback Dino
Thank you so much for doing this for us!🙏 My 2020 is due for a check/adjustment if needed. I'm not really mechanically inclined (other than oil changes and cleaning the air filter); I just ride😅. The mechanic who keeps an eye on the rest of it for me has pretty much said "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" in regards to even checking the valves. I just hit 12,000 miles recently... still running great, no issues, but seems to me at least checking them would be in order 🤔. Thanks again!
So happy you find the content usefull, the DR is very bullet proof however it never hurts to check it every once and a while. The nice thing about it is the systems are really straight forward especially if you are only doing maintenance not really modding the bike, have fun with it, it can be a rewarding part of ownership. Thank you again for the comment. Dino
This was another very good video Dino. You covered the various stages and tools well (and you did not miss any stages!) Your layout of the topics and the time they when they are covered in the video will be very useful for someone who may be familiar with some but not all aspects of valve adjustment. Your adjusting tool is very neat. Thankyou
Great video brother! Riding in Niagara region must be heaven! I have family there. Doing my valves this weekend now that I watched your video. I splurged and bought the Motion Pro tool, with the PC feelers.
Hi Dino Tinker Shed im very big fan of your videos about Suzuki Dr 650 i watch and learn from your films its very helpful dont stop continue this work its help for all comunity all over the world. im from Israel my name is Pavel and i have Suzuki Dr650 se 2016 i see on you your video how adjust valve clerance and i want to do it by my self. I open the cover valves and i do everything like i see on your movie and i see that valves is no space between them so i doing 010 mm intlet and 020 outside and my engine have metalic noise from valve so i try start close them a litle.On the end my valve clerance is on intlet 003 mm and outside 005 mm and my engine working fine no noise the power is ok on neutral engine working good. My question is if valve clearence like this is okey becouse i buy this bike 6 months ago and i was riding 2500 km alredy with valve whithout space. i dont have here good mechanic near me and i dont wont give my lovley Suzuki to some one to take from me money and give me my Bike in pices . please help me if you can regards Pavel Ps. sorry about my english i learn alone
Thank you for the question, if the valves are set correctly there will be a bit of noise as there is space between the stem and the tappet, this is normal. The clearance allows for heat 3xpantion and ensures the valves fully close when they are supposed to be. I hope this helps, and your English is fine, Dino
Thank you for the question, if the valves are set correctly there will be a bit of noise as there is space between the stem and the tappet, this is normal. The clearance allows for heat 3xpantion and ensures the valves fully close when they are supposed to be. I hope this helps, and your English is fine, Dino
Thank you for the question, if the valves are set correctly there will be a bit of noise as there is space between the stem and the tappet, this is normal. The clearance allows for heat 3xpantion and ensures the valves fully close when they are supposed to be. I hope this helps, and your English is fine, Dino
Thank you sir. Shaping up to do mine soon (brand new bike) have all the tools etc. Was confident in what I need to do but unsure if I needed to replace any seals. From what I saw here it's probably fair to assume I shouldn't as the only ones I'll be touching look to be seated nicely into the cover. Good to know! Thanks again.
I have a different bike, but with the same basic valve setup. Your explanation is the most thorough I’ve seen. I recently had an issue with the bike where the motor would start to run poorly after about an hour of riding. It felt almost as though it was running out of fuel, although it wasn’t. Long story short, it seems to have been a valve issue. I reset them and the problem went away. I notice that with your DR it gives a range for the clearances. On my bike it’s just single numbers .08mm intake and .18mm exhaust. Two of my intakes seem to have been only slightly tight, by no more than .005mm, but it was enough to cause performance issues once the engine was fully warmed up. I’ve been scouring the internet, but haven’t found an answer, so I’m curious if you might know. Is there any drawback, other than maybe slightly higher fuel consumption, to setting the valves slightly looser? I’m talking .09 instead of .08mm. The bike lasted about 1500 miles from the first valve service before it started acting up. I don’t know if that’s a feature of breaking in the engine, and maybe it’ll be good going forward, or if I go loose to buy more time before the next one. Just curious since you seem to know a bit more than average about these things. Incidentally, I found your channel because I’m trying to decide on my next bike which I plan to take an extended trip on. You by far have the clearest most detailed how-to videos I’ve come across. And I watch a lot of them 😂. I think you’ve helped convince me to go with a DR over a KLR. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for the comment and questions, and I apologize for the late reply. I am not a mechanic so please take anything I say with a grain of salt. First, both the DR and KLR are great bikes and both have flaws. I chose the DR for its simplicity, availability of parts and lighter design but I have friends who have owned or do own KLRs and really love them. My fiend Karl has owned 3 klr650's and likes' his DR much better. As for the valves, each bike is different and has different adjustment schedules and tolerances. I would think looser valves would mean they do not open as far when the lob on the cam is at maximum lift and therefore would not allow as much flow past the valve limiting fuel intake and exhaust evacuation. this could lead to hard starting and lack of power. The DR is such a simple engine it may have more adjustment as part of the design as it is very under stressed and low powered. Again these are just my thought's and something to think about. Hope this helps. Dino
@@DinosTinkerShedthanks for the response, and don’t worry I won’t hold you liable ;). I haven’t been able to find anyone with even an opinion on the matter. I did set it to the spec it called for, which is .08mm, if it happens again maybe I’ll try .09. It seems such a small number I can’t imagine it doing permanent damage. I’m on a Royal Enfield, not a BMW, I never would have guessed their valve tolerances could be so unforgiving.
Thanks Dino. Your Video is helpful for when I need to do a Valve Job. One thing though, is it better to adjust the gap closer to the wider tolerances as the the valve wears more into the cylinder head, the gap becomes narrower or does the gap become wider as the adjustment screw wears down and narrows? Maybe in the middle of the range is best? I also want to point out to some of your viewers that only one spark plug needs removal to turn the crankcase to top dead center as one spark plug is enough to release the compression from the cylinder. Steven from Toronto
Thank you for the question, I'm not an expert but from what I have read, of the valve stem and tappet are hardened correctly then most of the wear happens at the valve seat making the clearance tighter over time. However this can carry bike to bike. I hope this helps, Dino
Dino, I had no idea you were in Niagara. I'm closer to Toronto but I want to inspect my valves and don't know where to start and I would rather pay you instead of going to a shop! I would pay you if you could show me!
Hi Ryan, thank you for the question. Ill be honest I'm not sure I want to start servicing other peoples bikes right now. I have a pretty tight schedule as it is and I would have a hard time saying no to people if I started doing it for some but not others. I appreciate the offer, but at the moment I have to decline. The valves are not a difficult process to learn, the DR is pretty simple really, with a few tools like feeler gauges ect you can do it to. Again I am sorry I can not help you out at this time. Dino
Thank you for the question. The manual indicated to tighten securely but does not give a torque spec. I do not think you could easily torque them anyway as you have to hold the top of the tappet while tightening. Dino
so when it's on TDC, you check clearance on ALL the valves - both intake and exhaust valves, right? Your video showed just the intake valve check, so I assume the same set up applies to the exhaust valves (same position of cylinder before checking clearance on exhaust valves..)? Thanks
@@DinosTinkerShed thank you for your confirmation. Btw, great videos you are putting on your channel. You must be a teacher or professional from the education industry. Calm, patient voice, very well put together instructions and explanations. Great job!
Thanks! I used this video to check the valves of my DR650 today. But in my case, when I was trying to find the TDC mark, the fywheel just spun by itself at some point when I was moving it counterclockwise.Then stopped and I could continue spinning it manually. Is that normal? I havent seen that happening in any video I watched about valve adjusment. Is it the counterweight of the flywheel?
Thank you for the question, yes the crank will sometimes turn on its own depending on where it is in the stroke. This can be a bit frustrating as you creep up on the mark and it all of the sudden lops half a turn. It takes a bit of practice to get it right. I should have mentioned this in the video. Thank you again. Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed Thanks for the reply!! That puts me at ease. The content of your videos are really top quality and very helpful, so thanks also for that!!
Both good bikes, not sure on the valves on thr DRZ, I've never worked on one so I can't really comment. I have a friend that owns one and loves it. Dino
DR650 is a better touring bike, sits happily on 100kph, whereas the 400 is really buzzing. Better carrying capacity too. The 400 has some weight advantage, but not a lot. Depends what you plan to to.
Where are you located in Canada? Wish you were my neighbour. Very handy guy with these DR's.. most general things such as oil change, ect I'm fine with. But I'm not confident on much else. I'm in Nova Scotia
Thanks for the comment, I live in Ontario, I try to make my content to give you confidence to tackle these projects. I would work your way up to the more intimidating projects, that's all I did. A mechanic once told me, it's just turning nuts and bolts, you just need to stay organized and take it step by step. A manual helps a lot, as does stepping away if you get frustrated. I know you can do it because I was there once as well, remember, no one knows what they don't know until they do. Dono
@@johnmanadero7162 hi John, if you do not have the tools to build your own adjusting tools, ProCycle has some prebuilt. procycle.us/product/23-valve-adjustment-wrench procycle.us/product/21-valve-adjustment-wrench-set or even amazon www.amazon.ca/Motorcycle-Engine-Adjustment-Spanner-Wrench/dp/B09VY3RP7T/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=38W84FCPDT43S&keywords=valve%2Badjustment%2Bwrench&qid=1669128519&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjYzIiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=valve%2Badjustment%2Bwrench%2Caps%2C70&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1 Just make sure it is the 10mm size. Dino
Hmmm do you have access to any form of compressed air to blow out the wells? The challenge with leaving the plugs in is that you are on a compression stroke when finding TDC. It would be hard to accurately move the piston under compression. I would try it, it won't affect the measurement if you can get TDC locked in. I would just move the crank slow to let the compression bleed by the rings. Dino
Humm..in NZ i used to clean the entire bike (CL175/RD350/400) every week outdoors, by srubbing down engine with (gunk) engine degreaser (water soluble). Tooth brush as needed so instead of compressed air a good hard thorough spray with the jetted garden hose did it at a lowered angle direction. Then start the bike and allow it to warm up to dry out the nooks and crannies. We didnt have air compressors in those days. I think it mite help removing the build up around plugs. Sometimes a second cleaning application was needed..the mild weather helped.
I just bought a 2022 DR650 with 0 miles. Drove it home and today i was reading up on some info and problems people have had with DR 650. One was the bright red hot exhaust/header when idling for 1-3 mins. Well i turned mine one and let it idle. Withing 1 min the exhaust/ header was bright red.... i am going to contact the dealership. What a bummer.
Never a bad idea to contact the dealer about concerns. I know my DR does the same thing, I was very worried about it at first but after some reading it seems that most have this issue. I have not had any issues with it yet. Thank you for the post, please let me know what the dealer says. Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed Yea i am going to call them tomorrow. I looked at my house camera to see how it looked when i pulled up to my house from buying it and it was GLOWING red. I dont think its normal. I doubt the engine will last if it drive it that way.
Wow, mine will glow but I don't notice it unless I'm sitting a while and it's dark inside my shed or at night. Again, please let me know what they say. Dino
I would think it could but I am not 100 percent sure. If it is back firing when you come off the throttle and coast a bit it is often a lean mixture screw .
Spoiler alert: a spring is a mechanical device. How about you learn the proper nomenclature of the parts of an engine before you start pontificating to others about motor mechanics…….
Thank you again for your input. It is great comment like this that allow myself and others learn. I truely enjoy both positive and constructive comments like yours and it makes my day to know that you have taken time to better educate me on how things work. Take care and thank you again for taking the time to comment. Dino
You really commented on a thorough 30 minute video about opening and adjusting the valves in a motorcycle engine to arrogantly correct the guy about which category a spring falls into. Is everything ok?
Kia ora from NZ. One note at 23:27 you say put the petcock into the Pri position, this is incorrect as I just found. The next shot you have it in the on position where it should be. Pri or Res will let fuel flow, only On will stop it. Otherwise great tutorial. I just did mine at 13k and the exhaust was a little tight at 0.18mm but I left it for now and will loosen them up next time. Thanks for the great tutorial.
Thank you for the catch. Sometimes thing like that get past me while I'm talking and editing.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed No worries, it's not a criticism at all, just don't want anyone to spill fuel all over the place like I did. :)
I thought the same thing, then I thought it might be different for an aftermarket tank. Thanks for your comment, it was a good confirmation for me
Nicely detailed. My DR650 has done 35,000km, never been adjusted, so with this in hand, I'll rectify the situation :)
Glad to add some assistance
Dino
This guy's pretty good he knows his stuff!! Definitely my go to when I see him when I'm trying to find a video that trying to learn from!!
You make excellent instructional and educational content. I do not own a dr650 but your videos are enjoyable and are slowly swaying me in that direction
Glad you are enjoying the videos, and thank you for the feedback. If you do buy a motorcycle whether a DR650 or other, it is an enjoyable hobby that can be very rewarding and fun.
Thank you for the comment
Dino
These Suzuki DR 650 Are the Jeeps of motorcycle I appreciate the information on them 👍 the more I learn the more I like them 🙏🏽thanks much 🙏🏽👍
My pleasure. I owned a Jeep TJ for a number of years and I would agree with your statement.
Thank you for the comment
Dino
Q : would bending the spark plug electrod tip cases it to brake off when hot ?
That trick with the Robertson screw is the stuff of legends 😎
What a pleasant, patient chap you are. Thanks very much for the thoroughness ... 👏👏
Thank you for the comment, glad you enjoyed it.
Dino
Thank you Dino making these videos for free. This is thousands of dollars in mechanic fees that I'll be saving. I bought an '02 DR650 with 15k miles this year. It's my first bike and I'll be doing all the maintenance I can! Thanks again
John
My pleasure, thank you for the support and feedback. Have fun with the new bike.
Dino
Thanks, Dino! I genuinely appreciate learning about all the components, the slower paced informational lessons. I’m not a mechanic, hence why I am here! Thanks as well for making time chapters for those who want to skip to their needs! Well done!
Thank you for the feedback, I am also not a mechanic but I like to learn, I am glad you find the information useful and also the time code chapters.
Dino
Thank you for posting your valve adjustment video. I knew that if you did a video on valve adjustment it would be very detailed and correct. There are several videos on youtube about valve adjustment but yours is the one people need to watch everything is clear and precise.
Thanks again for a great video.
Thank you Robert J, I am glad you enjoyed it an I really appreciate the feedback. I will continue to develop this style of content.
Thank you again
Dino
Great job Dino.👍 I also use dielectric grease on my plugs but I use a cotton ear bud and put a smear inside the spark plug boot that way it ensures that there is a waterproof seal completely around the spark plug insulator and there less mess and wastage.
Great tip. Thank you for sharing. Glad you enjoyed the video
epic channel man love it thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoy it, thank you for the comment
Dino
Alright! Now this is brilliant. Jumped right into it, packed full of direct to the point instructions, broken up for every skill level. Nice work Dino! This reminds me of some of my favorite how to shows like How it's Made. I could see this being used as a factory training video. Nice shop rag BTW, a man of my own heart! And, I forgive you, thank you for trying 😉. Sub 336, waiting for some more great quality content. 👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
One thing that may have been a good detail is how the hotter spark plug could cause early detonation.
Thank you for the feedback, Its hard to find the right balance for these videos, but good solid comments both positive and critical are required to hone in on what people want. I appreciate that you took the time to be direct and honest in your initial comment, and I am doing my best to incorporate everyone's feedback to make the channel better. Everyone stumbles as they go along at something new ( I picked up a camera for the first time 2.5 months ago) but with help I think they can get where they want to go.
Thank you again
Dino
Great informative video Dino! Thanks for such a clear and detailed instruction. Looking forward to watching your channel. Greetings from Western Australia.
Dino, Thank you for explaining this procedure to folks that want to venture into doing their own maintenance. I would like to bring a couple issues to your attention that may get some folks confused. You mention that the valves needed to be adjusted at TDC (top dead center) but you did not mention that the must be adjusted at TDC -on the compression stroke only, not on the exhaust stroke. Verifying TDC with the timing mark is essential as some folks just look at the rising piston through the spark plug hole and the piston reaches TDC on the exhaust stroke also, but that is not the place where you adjust the valves. Rotating the motor in the proper direction is important also, it needs to be the same direction the engine runs on each bike as some engines run in reverse to make the wheels go forward.
Also, at about 4:40 in your video you mention and point with your pointer that the intake and exhaust gases enter and exit up and down the valve stem and that is not correct, they go in and out of the combustion chamber via the intake and exhaust ports which you left out of your green sectioned cutaway illustration. The valve guide and their seals are there to support the valve stem and prevent gasses from flowing around them.
You have a patient manner you present your information which is great for beginners, well done. Cheers. 😁
Dino, you are the man! Thanks so much for making these videos. I don't know what the hell I am doing mechanically, but I bought the DR650 with the hopes of learning how to do it myself. Well I am doing it myself, but if it waasn't for you I would be paying some shop way too much money for something I could just do myself. Thanks for teaching us!
Wow! thank you very much, you are to kind. I am really glad you find the videos helpful enough to give you confidence to tackle the jobs on your own, that's great!. I have had several professional mechanics tell me, it is just turning wrenches, just keep yourself organized and most people can do just about any job they want. I am by no means an expert and I still learn stuff everyday, forums like DRRiders is also a great resource for new and experienced DR owners alike to share knowledge and information in a great community setting and I would highly recommend anyone who owns a DR650 to check out.
Thank you again
Dino
Another super informative DR vid mate. Keep it up!
Thank you for the comment, Ill do my best.
Dino
Really good stuff! Thanks for creating such a useful and informative tutorial Dino!
My pleasure, thanks for the comment
You are on the money with the upright tool Dino.I made a flat spanner type but you are limited in movement. Good thinking.
Thank you, I did not come up with the idea, I just borrowed it and shared it.
Thank you for the comment
Dino
This was an outstanding tutorial on how to do this job. Really appreciate your tips and tricks! I had no idea that a #2 square drive was the same size, enabling you to make your own holding tool so easily, that was fantastic!
I am glad you enjoyed it, I learned that trick as well while researching for teh video. It was a great tip that I wanted to pass on.
Dino
Another great video! Thanks for posting!
Thanks agains for your well curated content Dino. You really have the gift of teaching. Keep up the good work! 😀✌👏
Thank you for comment and feedback, glad you enjoyed the video.
Dino
Your videos are worth gold!!
Glad you like them!
Just great! Very well done. Thanks for everything!
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it.
Dino
Thanks for filming and sharing these videos, Dino. So relaxing and informative. You've given me confidence to tinker myself. In fact I'm inspired to get an old DR and learn how to do the servicing and upgrades. Love your work!. Thanks mate.
Wow, that is great to hear. I'm so glad you are enjoying the videos and and thrilled that you are looking at a DR.
Dino
Thanks Dino. Super helpful for a newbie like myself navigating motorcycle maintenance for the first time. I appreciate the work you do!
Thank you so much for the comments, I am not an expert either, we all learn by doing, your on the right track!
Thank you again for taking the time to comment
Dino
Good video Dino. I'm busy with my DR250's head. And this gave me some good pointers.
I am glad the information was usefully. Good luck with the 250, I like the small displacement bikes. My last bike before the DR was TZR250. Not quite a dual sport but still fun.
Thanks for the comment.
Dino
Great information, love your videos!
Thank you sir! Much more confident tackling this tommorow!
Cheers from Calgary!
Glad you find it helpful
Dino
another great video thanks mate. i pick up my 2022 DR 650 in the morning.
that is great!, hope you enjoy it!
Thank, you for the comment.
Dino
Excellent in depth tutorial!
Thank you, glad you liked it.
Dino
Nice tip on the adjustment bolt tool 👍
Thank you, its not my idea but it is a great tip that seems to work well. I wish I could remember where I learned it so I could pass on the credit.
Thanks for the feedback
Dino
Thank you so much for doing this for us!🙏
My 2020 is due for a check/adjustment if needed. I'm not really mechanically inclined (other than oil changes and cleaning the air filter); I just ride😅. The mechanic who keeps an eye on the rest of it for me has pretty much said "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" in regards to even checking the valves. I just hit 12,000 miles recently... still running great, no issues, but seems to me at least checking them would be in order 🤔. Thanks again!
So happy you find the content usefull, the DR is very bullet proof however it never hurts to check it every once and a while. The nice thing about it is the systems are really straight forward especially if you are only doing maintenance not really modding the bike, have fun with it, it can be a rewarding part of ownership.
Thank you again for the comment.
Dino
Also probably okay as long as you aren't riding the motor hard right?
Thanks Dino, very good instructional video well presented.
Glad you enjoyed it. It was a fun one to make.
Thank you for the comment
Dino
Best. Valve. Adjustment. Video. Ever. Seriously, thanks for this!
Thank you appreciate the comment.
Dino
Great content, currently shopping for a DR. Thanks!
Thank you for the feedback and good luck in your DR hunt 😁
Dino
This was another very good video Dino. You covered the various stages and tools well (and you did not miss any stages!) Your layout of the topics and the time they when they are covered in the video will be very useful for someone who may be familiar with some but not all aspects of valve adjustment. Your adjusting tool is very neat. Thankyou
Thank you very much for the feedback. I am glad you enjoyed it and I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
Dino
Great video Dino, lots of in-depth info not covered in other videos. I really like the tools you made. I will be doing the same thing! Thanks
Very glad you found it helpfully. Thank you for the comment and feedback.
Dino
Great video brother! Riding in Niagara region must be heaven! I have family there.
Doing my valves this weekend now that I watched your video. I splurged and bought the Motion Pro tool, with the PC feelers.
Sorry for the late reply on this, I am so glad you enjoyed the video, let me know how your adjustment went.
Dino
Always enjoy your videos ,ty
Glad you like them!
Dino
Solid work. Thank you.
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it
Great video 👍
Thanks 👍glad you enjoyed it.
Dino
Well done, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Dino
Hi Dino Tinker Shed im very big fan of your videos about Suzuki Dr 650 i watch and learn from your films its very helpful dont stop continue this work its help for all comunity all over the world.
im from Israel my name is Pavel and i have Suzuki Dr650 se 2016 i see on you your video how adjust valve clerance and i want to do it by my self. I open the cover valves and i do everything like i see on your movie and i see that valves is no space between them so i doing 010 mm intlet and 020 outside and my engine have metalic noise from valve so i try start close them a litle.On the end my valve clerance is on intlet 003 mm and outside 005 mm and my engine working fine no noise the power is ok on neutral engine working good.
My question is if valve clearence like this is okey becouse i buy this bike 6 months ago and i was riding 2500 km alredy with valve whithout space.
i dont have here good mechanic near me and i dont wont give my lovley Suzuki to some one to take from me money and give me my Bike in pices .
please help me if you can
regards
Pavel
Ps.
sorry about my english i learn alone
Thank you for the question, if the valves are set correctly there will be a bit of noise as there is space between the stem and the tappet, this is normal. The clearance allows for heat 3xpantion and ensures the valves fully close when they are supposed to be. I hope this helps, and your English is fine,
Dino
Thank you for the question, if the valves are set correctly there will be a bit of noise as there is space between the stem and the tappet, this is normal. The clearance allows for heat 3xpantion and ensures the valves fully close when they are supposed to be. I hope this helps, and your English is fine,
Dino
Thank you for the question, if the valves are set correctly there will be a bit of noise as there is space between the stem and the tappet, this is normal. The clearance allows for heat 3xpantion and ensures the valves fully close when they are supposed to be. I hope this helps, and your English is fine,
Dino
Thank you 🙏 very much I wish you Nice Day and I’m waiting for New video on Suzuki Dr 650
Regards
Thank you sir.
Shaping up to do mine soon (brand new bike) have all the tools etc. Was confident in what I need to do but unsure if I needed to replace any seals.
From what I saw here it's probably fair to assume I shouldn't as the only ones I'll be touching look to be seated nicely into the cover.
Good to know!
Thanks again.
Glad you found the video helpfull.
Dino
Thank you Dino!
My pleasure. Hope it was not to long lol
Awesome!
Thank you!!!
I have a different bike, but with the same basic valve setup. Your explanation is the most thorough I’ve seen. I recently had an issue with the bike where the motor would start to run poorly after about an hour of riding. It felt almost as though it was running out of fuel, although it wasn’t. Long story short, it seems to have been a valve issue. I reset them and the problem went away. I notice that with your DR it gives a range for the clearances. On my bike it’s just single numbers .08mm intake and .18mm exhaust. Two of my intakes seem to have been only slightly tight, by no more than .005mm, but it was enough to cause performance issues once the engine was fully warmed up. I’ve been scouring the internet, but haven’t found an answer, so I’m curious if you might know. Is there any drawback, other than maybe slightly higher fuel consumption, to setting the valves slightly looser? I’m talking .09 instead of .08mm. The bike lasted about 1500 miles from the first valve service before it started acting up. I don’t know if that’s a feature of breaking in the engine, and maybe it’ll be good going forward, or if I go loose to buy more time before the next one. Just curious since you seem to know a bit more than average about these things.
Incidentally, I found your channel because I’m trying to decide on my next bike which I plan to take an extended trip on. You by far have the clearest most detailed how-to videos I’ve come across. And I watch a lot of them 😂. I think you’ve helped convince me to go with a DR over a KLR. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for the comment and questions, and I apologize for the late reply. I am not a mechanic so please take anything I say with a grain of salt. First, both the DR and KLR are great bikes and both have flaws. I chose the DR for its simplicity, availability of parts and lighter design but I have friends who have owned or do own KLRs and really love them. My fiend Karl has owned 3 klr650's and likes' his DR much better.
As for the valves, each bike is different and has different adjustment schedules and tolerances. I would think looser valves would mean they do not open as far when the lob on the cam is at maximum lift and therefore would not allow as much flow past the valve limiting fuel intake and exhaust evacuation. this could lead to hard starting and lack of power. The DR is such a simple engine it may have more adjustment as part of the design as it is very under stressed and low powered. Again these are just my thought's and something to think about.
Hope this helps.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShedthanks for the response, and don’t worry I won’t hold you liable ;). I haven’t been able to find anyone with even an opinion on the matter. I did set it to the spec it called for, which is .08mm, if it happens again maybe I’ll try .09. It seems such a small number I can’t imagine it doing permanent damage. I’m on a Royal Enfield, not a BMW, I never would have guessed their valve tolerances could be so unforgiving.
D&D for the win
Ive seen so many adjuster jam nut being over tightened galling the threads.
I'm trying it again, haven't watched yet. I'll post my review momentarily.
When tightening down locknut on valve tappet how much after "snug" would you say you tighten down?
Thanks Dino. Your Video is helpful for when I need to do a Valve Job. One thing though, is it better to adjust the gap closer to the wider tolerances as the the valve wears more into the cylinder head, the gap becomes narrower or does the gap become wider as the adjustment screw wears down and narrows? Maybe in the middle of the range is best?
I also want to point out to some of your viewers that only one spark plug needs removal to turn the crankcase to top dead center as one spark plug is enough to release the compression from the cylinder.
Steven from Toronto
Thank you for the question, I'm not an expert but from what I have read, of the valve stem and tappet are hardened correctly then most of the wear happens at the valve seat making the clearance tighter over time. However this can carry bike to bike.
I hope this helps, Dino
Also good point on the spark plug
Dino, I had no idea you were in Niagara. I'm closer to Toronto but I want to inspect my valves and don't know where to start and I would rather pay you instead of going to a shop! I would pay you if you could show me!
Hi Ryan, thank you for the question. Ill be honest I'm not sure I want to start servicing other peoples bikes right now. I have a pretty tight schedule as it is and I would have a hard time saying no to people if I started doing it for some but not others. I appreciate the offer, but at the moment I have to decline. The valves are not a difficult process to learn, the DR is pretty simple really, with a few tools like feeler gauges ect you can do it to.
Again I am sorry I can not help you out at this time.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed No worries D! Keep the videos up!
Would you know if there is a torque specification for those jam nuts? I can’t find any. Maybe snug is good enough?
Thank you for the question. The manual indicated to tighten securely but does not give a torque spec. I do not think you could easily torque them anyway as you have to hold the top of the tappet while tightening.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed ; That’s true. Thanks!
subbed. pls keep explaining like we eat legos
Thanks for the sub! I will do just that
Dino
so when it's on TDC, you check clearance on ALL the valves - both intake and exhaust valves, right? Your video showed just the intake valve check, so I assume the same set up applies to the exhaust valves (same position of cylinder before checking clearance on exhaust valves..)? Thanks
Yes that is correct
@@DinosTinkerShed thank you for your confirmation. Btw, great videos you are putting on your channel. You must be a teacher or professional from the education industry. Calm, patient voice, very well put together instructions and explanations. Great job!
Where are you located Dino? Thanks for the great vids from the Ottawa area. 2009 DR, 2011 DR and 2003 KLR.
Hi and thank you for the comment 😁. I am located in Niagra Falls. Sounds like you have a heard of dual sports, and a great area to ride them.
Dino
Thanks! I used this video to check the valves of my DR650 today. But in my case, when I was trying to find the TDC mark, the fywheel just spun by itself at some point when I was moving it counterclockwise.Then stopped and I could continue spinning it manually. Is that normal? I havent seen that happening in any video I watched about valve adjusment. Is it the counterweight of the flywheel?
Thank you for the question, yes the crank will sometimes turn on its own depending on where it is in the stroke. This can be a bit frustrating as you creep up on the mark and it all of the sudden lops half a turn. It takes a bit of practice to get it right. I should have mentioned this in the video.
Thank you again.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed Thanks for the reply!! That puts me at ease. The content of your videos are really top quality and very helpful, so thanks also for that!!
super material..umiem angielski z filmow tak ze rozumiem co 4 slowo ale super material😊🇵🇱🙂
Drz400s vs Dr650 ease of valve adjustment, maintenance, and ride 14k miles per year? Debating because I'm torn emotionally.
Both good bikes, not sure on the valves on thr DRZ, I've never worked on one so I can't really comment. I have a friend that owns one and loves it. Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed Drz400s has shim type, so now I'm leaning towards Dr650 so that I can do the maintenance. Thank You!
@@e.l.9589 my pleasure, the DR is a bit lower tech but I find it to be part of the apeal
DR650 is a better touring bike, sits happily on 100kph, whereas the 400 is really buzzing. Better carrying capacity too. The 400 has some weight advantage, but not a lot. Depends what you plan to to.
@@John-xg3jj great points
Dino
Where are you located in Canada? Wish you were my neighbour. Very handy guy with these DR's.. most general things such as oil change, ect I'm fine with. But I'm not confident on much else. I'm in Nova Scotia
Thanks for the comment, I live in Ontario, I try to make my content to give you confidence to tackle these projects. I would work your way up to the more intimidating projects, that's all I did. A mechanic once told me, it's just turning nuts and bolts, you just need to stay organized and take it step by step. A manual helps a lot, as does stepping away if you get frustrated. I know you can do it because I was there once as well, remember, no one knows what they don't know until they do.
Dono
hi dino thanks so much for teaching me how to do this, where can i find the link to buy the tools you used to adjust my valves
Hi John, I bought the tops at ProCycle in the states.
@@DinosTinkerShed thank you sir
@@DinosTinkerShed sir what can i use as an alternative if to adjust the nut to keep it from spinning. i hope my question makes sense
@@johnmanadero7162 hi John, if you do not have the tools to build your own adjusting tools, ProCycle has some prebuilt. procycle.us/product/23-valve-adjustment-wrench
procycle.us/product/21-valve-adjustment-wrench-set
or even amazon
www.amazon.ca/Motorcycle-Engine-Adjustment-Spanner-Wrench/dp/B09VY3RP7T/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=38W84FCPDT43S&keywords=valve%2Badjustment%2Bwrench&qid=1669128519&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjYzIiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=valve%2Badjustment%2Bwrench%2Caps%2C70&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1
Just make sure it is the 10mm size.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed thank you so much dino you are the best
Is it absolutely necessary to remove the spark plugs to check/adjust the valves?
You may be able to find TDC without removing the plugs but it will make it very difficult. For the time it takes its best to remove the plug.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed the plug wells are so filthy, I'm afraid of getting debris in the cylinder!
Hmmm do you have access to any form of compressed air to blow out the wells? The challenge with leaving the plugs in is that you are on a compression stroke when finding TDC. It would be hard to accurately move the piston under compression. I would try it, it won't affect the measurement if you can get TDC locked in. I would just move the crank slow to let the compression bleed by the rings.
Dino
Humm..in NZ i used to clean the entire bike (CL175/RD350/400) every week outdoors, by srubbing down engine with (gunk) engine degreaser (water soluble). Tooth brush as needed so instead of compressed air a good hard thorough spray with the jetted garden hose did it at a lowered angle direction. Then start the bike and allow it to warm up to dry out the nooks and crannies. We didnt have air compressors in those days. I think it mite help removing the build up around plugs. Sometimes a second cleaning application was needed..the mild weather helped.
I just bought a 2022 DR650 with 0 miles. Drove it home and today i was reading up on some info and problems people have had with DR 650. One was the bright red hot exhaust/header when idling for 1-3 mins. Well i turned mine one and let it idle. Withing 1 min the exhaust/ header was bright red.... i am going to contact the dealership. What a bummer.
Never a bad idea to contact the dealer about concerns. I know my DR does the same thing, I was very worried about it at first but after some reading it seems that most have this issue. I have not had any issues with it yet.
Thank you for the post, please let me know what the dealer says.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed Yea i am going to call them tomorrow. I looked at my house camera to see how it looked when i pulled up to my house from buying it and it was GLOWING red. I dont think its normal. I doubt the engine will last if it drive it that way.
Wow, mine will glow but I don't notice it unless I'm sitting a while and it's dark inside my shed or at night.
Again, please let me know what they say.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed Ill keep you updated. Can you make a video on that exact problem and y it glows red please.
That's a really good topic. I'll do some research and put one together.
Dino
Can bad valve cause backfiring
I would think it could but I am not 100 percent sure. If it is back firing when you come off the throttle and coast a bit it is often a lean mixture screw .
@@DinosTinkerShed it backfires when I accelerate
@@chrisfultz5696 hmm, have you adjusted your valves to see if they are in spec?
@@DinosTinkerShed no I’m trying to do that as I speak. I’m trying to get the tools the filler gauges.
@ 33.26 lets all look at the feeler blades with both eyes open
Lol how can I miss that as well as the pet cock. Thank you for pointing that out.
Nope - it says 12,000 Km between inspections. You don't adjust anything unless it's out of tolerance.
Spoiler alert: a spring is a mechanical device. How about you learn the proper nomenclature of the parts of an engine before you start pontificating to others about motor mechanics…….
Thank you again for your input. It is great comment like this that allow myself and others learn. I truely enjoy both positive and constructive comments like yours and it makes my day to know that you have taken time to better educate me on how things work.
Take care and thank you again for taking the time to comment.
Dino
Oh and I love your dog picture. Really cute
You really commented on a thorough 30 minute video about opening and adjusting the valves in a motorcycle engine to arrogantly correct the guy about which category a spring falls into. Is everything ok?
Hi Dino