Sending love and support to anyone having a difficult time getting free of a cult in any form. Reach out to someone outside of that community today. Take it one step at a time. You are not alone. You got this!
All of these stories resonated with me. I recently was ghosted by all my friends and some family. It all started going massively downhill with Trump election. One friend would always state - no religitics. Yet she came to camp out with a huge Trump/Pence sign in their camper window. When I expressed my dismay at how could they support this man, they fired back with take us off your list. Family did the same thing. I never felt so alone and torn. They told my children I was going to hell. My daughter was nine and her grandma told her this, to which I replied “ tell grandma *** that I’ll see her there. We were able to continue family ties but incredibly different and inauthentic. . Then, gradually they all started talking politics and praying in a circle over hotdogs.and we were forced to sit and listen to how he was given to us by god. They were sending me a message loud and clear. We pray before we eat! ( after 25 years of not praying before we eat). I was easy to get shun. I sometimes regret coming out. Until Trump we were able to co- exist mostly until this 2024 campaign began. Before Trump I couldn’t have told you how anybody voted, nor did I care. They are Christian nationalists and my attempts to tell them we do not want to be a theocracy resulted in my 2nd shunning. This time I am sure it is permanent. I’ve never seen anything like this. What is that line- divide and conquer. As a big camper for all my life, I have never seen political signs enveloping any campsite. Before 2020 election I stopped and asked one camper if they have always put political signs in their campsite. His reply was that no one has been worthy before. So I asked him what happens should he win, will you stop putting up political signs at your campsite? His reply was “ he’s going to win a third term. I followed up with what happens after this third term, to which he replied Jesus is coming back and all the Christians will be taken to heaven. I asked what happens to people who are not Christians. Eternal death in hell. I rode off in the sunset on my bike trying to enjoy the outdoors while I still could- you know I’m delivered to hell, or they kill me and my freedom to not be a Christian. There is no changing this persons mindset and they will feel justified in killing this infidel. I’ve gone silent, with no friends or family. It is heartbreaking to know that there is no fixing this. The pain this has caused is like loosing your entire world. I think I’ll just wear a big cross around my neck and put a Trump Won sign in my yard. Someone asked me once what I would do if someone came to me and said “ convert or die. My response was “. Pull the trigger, because I don’t want to live in that world.
My 65 year old aunt was never religious and yet has taken on many of the far right Evangelical Trump supporters attitudes because she is all in deep for that TV reality star buffoon.
I do feel for you. Yes, the mixing of politics and religion has caused much pain to millions of decent folks just wanting to live their lives in peace. Stay strong and find a community of people that have similar views as you to keep your sanity and lift your spirits. Wishing you love and happiness, be well friend 🤗👍
Your story resonates with me. My brother is a Trumper. He is not religious, but he treats Trump like a god. In his mind Trump can do no wrong and is the best president America has ever had. When I bring up any of the many terrible things Trump has done, he gets angry and says that it is "fake news." It is like he is in a cult and brainwashed. Of course all he does is listen to Fox News. I honestly don't know if I will ever break Trump's grip on him.
Hi Seth! DC here. There's tons of things to do and see in DC that are off the beaten tourist path. This includes woodland trails, private garden tours, outdoor concerts, public tours of lesser known historic homes, Potomac River boat tours. The list goes on and on. Hope you and Natalie make it over here.
Well done Seth. I was a 26 year pastor and the whole process turned me into a quality atheist. Spot on! I have a couple of CZcams on my experience, cult leaders and their characteristics etc. I was also recently called by a documentary film maker on the experience as it seemed a great cautionary tale for NETFLIX. So we'll see.
The fact that J.D's own daughter would lash out physically at her own father when he came out as an atheist raises serious concerns about her mental health.
I'm cheering Gracie's victory! As for the DC trip idea: happy wife, happy life. Take her to the frikin' beach. I don't dread specifically the cold, but I dread the shortening of the days. I start having dread the day after the summer solstice.
I come from a Pentecostal Fundamentalist background. It took a long time for me to de-program, and I have been an atheist for 14 years now. Unfortunately, my whole family is still religious, and I have not spoken to them in years. It is really difficult because I want a relationship with them, but it always goes right back to religion...."You are going to hell and how could you do this to our family"...stuff like that. I wish they could get past it, but I can't control that. When I confront them, it never seems to come out right. I have zero issues speaking to anyone else about it, but family is always much more difficult.
The same with me, ex catholic. 20y Atheist but only 14 when I was able to unsubscribe with those F....s (2 witness, permission from the bishop and of course baptism certificate🤯)... PS. No witness can be related to the family!
I never did get the gibberish many there spouted and acted like that was even "speaking in tongues" which supposedly anyone hearing should be able to understand what that person is saying no matter what according to the bible(.at least get it right if you are going to make something the focal point of a religious doctrine.). If something is true , it will hold up to any amount of questioning by children or adults. Haven't run into any arguments by christians or other religions that actually make sense but hey maybe it's my faulty mind that can handle calculus but not loop de loop false logic that only believers who have been indoctrinated most of their lives can buy into. But then most of those people give their money and give up their personal power to these con leaders.. So follow the money and power as to why it keeps getting pushed on everyone. trying to force everyone to be on board for beliefs that aren't even good for them. if they actually look at what they believe without question.
I'm so happy to hear your story about Gracie! I know first hand the feeling of showing an animal a better life after a previous traumatic one. We had a sweet, wonderful cat who was 4yo when we got him. Whenever we reached toward him to pet him, he cowered like he expected us to hit him. We were (and are) convinced he was punished by his previous owners for peeing around their newborn baby's bed (territorial intrusion response, natural for a cat in those circumstances). That cowering went away over the first 2yrs, as he realized he was safe with us! He and we had 8 happy years together, and btw, he never peed in inappropriate places for us! I wish Gracie many happy years, too!
Re DC: the national zoo and all the Smithsonian museums are free to the public and fantastic. I particularly love air & space, natural history, and the native American museums. I also had a blast at the spy museum.
I’m not even an atheist but I’ve got a biology degree. I’m persona non grata with some people in my neighbourhood because I’ll explain what evolution is when they question me about it and point out the ignorant pseudoscience nonsense of what creationists say about some science subjects
True, but there's actually a black atheist group on line. I simply don't tell black people I am, not for me but for them. I listen to all the church stories. Top me they are just stories about people being people, meaning self centered, selfish, jealous, the whole nine yards. I once had a black coworker show me a picture of someone she dated briefly and then whisper, he's an atheist, with a shudder. I just smiled. People really believe this crap, so I find it a kindness. I let people pray over me at the hospital and will attend a church if invited. I've enjoyed a sermon or too. You don't have to be a believer to do so. Was once watching a talk show and this girl was in real distress over homosexuality. My coworker, knowing me thought I'd mock the girl and I didn't. She looked at me so surprised. I responded, look at her, she really believes this stuff. She's in real distress. I feel sorry for her. I'm a humanist. I don't particularly like people. I think we suck and ruining the earth, but I have empathy 🤷🏽♀️ Anyway, I'm an introvert and prefer animals to people. I know all of it was crap at the age of 7. I get it - life is hard, death is scary, so many things we don't understand, and our daddies didn't love us enough, so believing in a sky daddy is comforting. But I'm an adult and thought like an adult even as a child. I just can't believe in nonsensical nonsense 🤷🏽♀️
You: "I know people hate when I talk about the dogs but..." Me, hanging on every single word: "That disclaimer was unnecessary please tell me everything about your lovely little friends ;o; " In all seriousness wrt that topic, I'm so proud of Gracie for making as much progress as she has, sounds like you guys've done a great job in bringing out the best in her and helping her feel safe and loved :3
I found that baffling too when I dated a Baptist in college. We had many arguments over how, yes, Jesus and other ancient people were drinking alcoholic beverages and that fermentation was a mainstay of food storage. The dumbest part is that she was a biology major and I a biochemistry major. So I knew what I was talking about when it comes to microbes and she had the educational background to understand it, but still bought the BS her pastors taught about grape juice.
I can already see the apologist dodge against the drinking excessive wine to disprove transubstantiation. They'll just say you're partaking in the sin of gluttony and therefore the wine couldn't be consecrated. Heads I win, tails you lose all over again.
In DC, Apart from the monuments, mall, and Museums, Ford’s Theatre, the National Arboretum, and the zoo are worth checking out. Of course you can always rent a car and drive to Ocean City or Virginia Beach 🙂
Try Great Falls Park; either the Maryland or the Virginia side, or both. Virginia has the best view of the falls. Maryland has the towpath which is now an easy trail with beautiful scenery.
October is a beautiful month in DC. I’m a Native Washingtonian and based on 72 years of experience, May and October are the best months we have. High percentage of absolutely glorious days.
Nice to hear about your dogs. It's great that Gracie is starting to heal from whatever trauma she had been through. It reminds me that trust is earned. And sometimes, it takes a lot of patience and kindness to earn that trust from a wounded being. But the reward can be so amazing when that happens. It adds meaning to one's life.
Despite being surrounded by Evangelicals, Im so grateful I live in the Pacific Northest and can just claim to be "not that church-y" with little to no backlash.
Strange how believers see their deity as an all-powerful entity, yet they feel the need to defend it as if it’s a weakling with an incredibly fragile ego. Doesn’t it remind you of the way they defend Donald Jenius Trump and send him money, while he’s supposedly this powerful billionaire? What is wrong with them?
This has always baffled me. Doesn't make sense why an all-powerful God needs to be defended when he can snap his finger and wipe your face off the planet any time you offend him. But then, is there really ANYTHING in religion that makes sense....cuz I've never found one.
@tklyte It creates narcissism, so it makes zero sense. Narcissists are 100% delusional. The relligiouse nutcase become narcissistic because they think they are the chosen ones and therevore better than anybody else...
Aw, Natalie!! I feel for you! I also start to mourn in August for what the temperature will be in December. I'm in Cape Town South Africa and love the cooler weather. I know we are going to be roasting in December until March. Strongs to you. I'll think of you as we work out the weather.
DC isn't very cold in October. It can be kind of cool especially towards the end of the month but just jacket weather. Some years it's downright hot in he beginning of October.
Being able to move around the country while working is nice. Summers in the north, fall in the east, winter south or west, spring in the mountains. Our travel trailer is great for us and the 2 dogs.
Considering the socio-economic status of much of "everyday" American people, their religious hope is the last thing that they can still cling to. You are punching holes in their imagined "life raft" by simply speaking rational truths.
Of course I get a pro Israel Christian ad after this video. Love how they target atheist videos for religious ads. At least it won't work on us! So sad hearing about families torn apart by non belief but hey, at least you're being true to yourself and what you believe, and have the facts on your side. There is no hate like Christian love.
Love your dog story I used to Foster dogs so I know first hand what you are talking about I had a dog that was very shy if you got near him and he couldn't get away he would pee , with in 3 years I got him to come to me and enjoy going for walks you should be very proud of yourself you've done an excellent job
I suggest Crater Of Diamonds National Park for a trip. It's in Murfreesboro Arkansas and it's the world's only public access precious minerals mine. Whatever you pull outta the ground no matter the size or value is YOURS TO KEEP!! Imagine the brownie points you'd win with your wife by getting her some jewelry with gems you pulled outta the ground with your own two MANLY hands!!
Another way to check if the wine turned into the blood of Jesus after you drink it is to check your “stool”. If the stool is black then either the wine turned into blood or you have a bleeding ulcer. 😊
My father was given a case of beer as a gift from a business associate. He poured it all down the drain. I would like to have snuke it out to sell it to some HS buddies.
@@robertwysocki2073 Not even for people with celiac disease. I recall a case of a 9 year old girl who was told by the church that yes, she had to eat the gluten. But she needn’t worry. After all, after the consecration, it is no longer gluten; only the _“accidents”_ (superficial appearance) of gluten remain. Presumably, later on in the bathroom, she won’t _really_ be sick; she will only have the _superficial appearance_ of discharging from both ends. The RCC can be unspeakably cruel when it makes a god out of its rules. But wasn’t it Jesus himself who said that the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath?
There’s a sweet Catholic scandal in the fallout period where some bureaucrat had to renew a wine contract and he got the wrong kind. They used it for years without knowing they were doing their magic wrong. How come nobody noticed?
@ 15:52, evidence of not being your Children’s “Friend”. Children need a figure of discipline and RESPECT. That’ll be the very sad and unfortunate day that my Children go as far as disrespecting Us even with their tone of voice. Take charge Parents and employ proper DISCIPLINE!!!
Don't mistake abuse for "discipline". No god needs to be defended with violence, especially violence directed at children. It's horrifically easy to lose self-control when dealing with a defiant kid pushing parental limits.
Texan here, it's kind of funny because people up north are always looking for someplace warm to go, and I'm always looking for someplace cooler or cold to go 😂. Over a hundred degree weather for weeks and I wanted to get out of it. 🥵 now mind you I don't want it to be super cold but I do want it to be in the 40s and fifties at night and during the day the upper 60s and lower 70s. You know how they say people up north that have less than get depressed well I get depressed in summer time because I don't want to go outside at all when it's over 100 so I'm not getting the sun because I don't want to be out there. 😂😂😂🥵🥵
I became an atheist at 40. I have been a member of the FFRF for years now. I always love when a Christian approaches me to talk about the bible. They often get bored and leave. I wish they had more interest in discussing it. The first book I bought was Losing Faith in Faith by Dan Barker, but I have a large library, since. It's sad how many of us are indoctrinated and it takes some of us years, to critically examine our beliefs. It's certainly well worth the effort to be free of dogma!
Allow the obvious. You actually = were born an atheist. All humans are born lacking innate knowledge of "God" or religions. These things = must be taught to them - further evidence of their human origin. So you actually "broke your conditioning" at 40 to return to your "default" state as a human. Adherence to theism is as alluded to actually a conditioned behavior construct. Typically people starting as children are systematically inculcated into religious belief by the adults around them - who they instinctively trust. It is tantamount to Pavlovian conditioning. 🤨
Our civilization is reaching a nexus. Those who cling to theism increasingly find themselves unable to adapt to the inevitable - and inexorable - change which occurs with every culture over time. Consequently they are beginning to lash out at society agitating more and more for what could prove to be conflict. Unable to live in peace with others and clinging to their anachronistic dogmatic worldview they move towards what might be viewed as a modern form of the Crusades viewing all others as "infidels" as they desire to supplant the existing culture with their own. Moral of the story: it is ironic in that people always feared nuclear weapons as destroying the world eventually when the real threat was always right in front of us........... 🤨
Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews! Congrats on the Gracie progress! I'm so glad you kept her, she's probably learned from Linus, too. I remember you asked, 'should we keep her?'. I hope the family you got her for are happy. She wouldn't have fit there as well. And did the carrying her first block help? That was a great idea. Ok, excellent show today! Thankyou. 👍💖💙🥰✌
A thought-provoking conversation. I haven't come to the point where I can say "I'm atheist" to a very religious family. I don't know if I need to stir that pot. My ears perked up when I heard the caller say she is going to the FFRF Conference. I have been before, met some cool people, and I am looking forward to going again the Oct.
One of the oldest extant bibles is a manuscript written in Ancient Hebrew from the 5th or 6th century. The word that was used to describe the Hebrew slaves in Egypt was “Ebet.” When describing slavery in Exodus 21, Leviticus 25, etc., they used the same word, Ebet. So there is no doubt they were talking about slavery, not simply servitude or servants.
Seth, if any Christian actually says "spare the rod, spoil the child" to you, point out that they are not quoting the bible, but a very bawdy poem. Proverbs 13:24 says "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." But "spare the rod and spoil the child" comes from Hudibras, a Samuel Butler poem that mocks Puritanism. "The child," in this case, is Cupid, Eros, love itself! And that section of the poem is all about BDSM.
Reminds me of an episode of _Tales from the Crypt,_ where Uncle Ezra, the owner of a funeral home, thought that "a penny saved is a penny earned" came from the Bible.
I love hearing stories with great heartfelt, heartwarming moments without someone saying afterwards "Glory to God!", "Halelluer!", or "Praise Jesus!" If you happen to even nod your head to someone who happens to close out situations like that. The next thing they try to do is witness, preach, or whatever to ya. I'm like "Get behind me Satan!" Lol😂
In addition to the monuments in DC, there's a bunch of free Smithsonian Museums and the Zoo there. You can also tour the Capitol, and of course there is Arlington National Cemetery bordering DC.
And it won't be super chilly in October. A sweater, light jacket, or hoodie should be enough for morning and evening, and it warms up pretty well during the day.
I’m in the same situation with the guy who has kids and wants to tell his parents he’s atheist. My parents are in their 70’s and they are in the place where they won’t change thier mind on god. My mom is emotional my dad is a one way thinker, his way or no way.
A daughter who thinks violence is ok is a sad thing over a challenge to her belief. Kind of proves she is wavering deep down inside. You need to press charges though because that's not acceptable behavior no matter who it is.
Does anyone know what “Nazi” means? It is the abbreviation of the German word, Nazionaliste, meaning Nationalist. The Nazis were White Christian Nationalists. Sound familiar?
Actually you were born "an atheist" - since no human is born with innate knowledge of "God" and religions. Those things = must be taught to you. Thus atheism is actually the default for man. Hence you mean to say you rejected your conditioned beliefs which were likely foisted upon you by your parents as is usually the case - just as religion was pushed onto them by your grandparents. The perpetuation of theism is a pure Pavlovian conditioning paradigm - typically beginning at an early age.
All those apologists on the subject of slavery in the buy bull. Are they the same guys who say the buy bull is the word of god, immutable, from the hand of god himself? Oh look some more hypocrisy
Itself showing that religion is selfimploding and this behaviour is symptomatic with people losing the control over people losing their religion which in their heads being bad because the average joe needing religion and getting its moral compass from a supposedly sacred and unqestionable deity.
Respect for jd. Id love to talk to this guy. Hmu. Mom's 84 and because of religion, we're at war to the death. Whole family as a matter of fact. We need to change this cycle of idiocy and retardation.
It pbly won't affect you that way but I'm pretty sure it'll affect you in a different way if it was actual blood especially, if he was a resurrection then a zombie jesus
Sending love and support to anyone having a difficult time getting free of a cult in any form.
Reach out to someone outside of that community today. Take it one step at a time. You are not alone. You got this!
All of these stories resonated with me. I recently was ghosted by all my friends and some family. It all started going massively downhill with Trump election. One friend would always state - no religitics. Yet she came to camp out with a huge Trump/Pence sign in their camper window. When I expressed my dismay at how could they support this man, they fired back with take us off your list. Family did the same thing. I never felt so alone and torn. They told my children I was going to hell. My daughter was nine and her grandma told her this, to which I replied “ tell grandma *** that I’ll see her there. We were able to continue family ties but incredibly different and inauthentic. . Then, gradually they all started talking politics and praying in a circle over hotdogs.and we were forced to sit and listen to how he was given to us by god. They were sending me a message loud and clear. We pray before we eat! ( after 25 years of not praying before we eat). I was easy to get shun. I sometimes regret coming out. Until Trump we were able to co- exist mostly until this 2024 campaign began. Before Trump I couldn’t have told you how anybody voted, nor did I care. They are Christian nationalists and my attempts to tell them we do not want to be a theocracy resulted in my 2nd shunning. This time I am sure it is permanent. I’ve never seen anything like this. What is that line- divide and conquer. As a big camper for all my life, I have never seen political signs enveloping any campsite. Before 2020 election I stopped and asked one camper if they have always put political signs in their campsite. His reply was that no one has been worthy before. So I asked him what happens should he win, will you stop putting up political signs at your campsite? His reply was “ he’s going to win a third term. I followed up with what happens after this third term, to which he replied Jesus is coming back and all the Christians will be taken to heaven. I asked what happens to people who are not Christians. Eternal death in hell. I rode off in the sunset on my bike trying to enjoy the outdoors while I still could- you know I’m delivered to hell, or they kill me and my freedom to not be a Christian. There is no changing this persons mindset and they will feel justified in killing this infidel. I’ve gone silent, with no friends or family. It is heartbreaking to know that there is no fixing this. The pain this has caused is like loosing your entire world. I think I’ll just wear a big cross around my neck and put a Trump Won sign in my yard. Someone asked me once what I would do if someone came to me and said “ convert or die. My response was “. Pull the trigger, because I don’t want to live in that world.
My 65 year old aunt was never religious and yet has taken on many of the far right Evangelical Trump supporters attitudes because she is all in deep for that TV reality star buffoon.
The candidacy and subsequent election of trump has been nothing short of a disaster for the social fabric of this nation.
I do feel for you. Yes, the mixing of politics and religion has caused much pain to millions of decent folks just wanting to live their lives in peace.
Stay strong and find a community of people that have similar views as you to keep your sanity and lift your spirits.
Wishing you love and happiness, be well friend 🤗👍
I remind them the 2nd amendment applies to theist and atheist alike. Thanks founders for recognizing religion for the evil that it is
Your story resonates with me. My brother is a Trumper. He is not religious, but he treats Trump like a god. In his mind Trump can do no wrong and is the best president America has ever had. When I bring up any of the many terrible things Trump has done, he gets angry and says that it is "fake news." It is like he is in a cult and brainwashed. Of course all he does is listen to Fox News. I honestly don't know if I will ever break Trump's grip on him.
Hi Seth! DC here. There's tons of things to do and see in DC that are off the beaten tourist path. This includes woodland trails, private garden tours, outdoor concerts, public tours of lesser known historic homes, Potomac River boat tours. The list goes on and on. Hope you and Natalie make it over here.
Well done Seth. I was a 26 year pastor and the whole process turned me into a quality atheist. Spot on! I have a couple of CZcams on my experience, cult leaders and their characteristics etc. I was also recently called by a documentary film maker on the experience as it seemed a great cautionary tale for NETFLIX. So we'll see.
The fact that J.D's own daughter would lash out physically at her own father when he came out as an atheist raises serious concerns about her mental health.
He did not say how old she was. This could be a child for all we know who might not know how to control or properly respond to her emotions yet.
I'm cheering Gracie's victory! As for the DC trip idea: happy wife, happy life. Take her to the frikin' beach. I don't dread specifically the cold, but I dread the shortening of the days. I start having dread the day after the summer solstice.
I come from a Pentecostal Fundamentalist background. It took a long time for me to de-program, and I have been an atheist for 14 years now. Unfortunately, my whole family is still religious, and I have not spoken to them in years. It is really difficult because I want a relationship with them, but it always goes right back to religion...."You are going to hell and how could you do this to our family"...stuff like that. I wish they could get past it, but I can't control that. When I confront them, it never seems to come out right. I have zero issues speaking to anyone else about it, but family is always much more difficult.
The same with me, ex catholic. 20y Atheist but only 14 when I was able to unsubscribe with those F....s (2 witness, permission from the bishop and of course baptism certificate🤯)...
PS. No witness can be related to the family!
I never did get the gibberish many there spouted and acted like that was even "speaking in tongues" which supposedly anyone hearing should be able to understand what that person is saying no matter what according to the bible(.at least get it right if you are going to make something the focal point of a religious doctrine.). If something is true , it will hold up to any amount of questioning by children or adults. Haven't run into any arguments by christians or other religions that actually make sense but hey maybe it's my faulty mind that can handle calculus but not loop de loop false logic that only believers who have been indoctrinated most of their lives can buy into. But then most of those people give their money and give up their personal power to these con leaders.. So follow the money and power as to why it keeps getting pushed on everyone. trying to force everyone to be on board for beliefs that aren't even good for them. if they actually look at what they believe without question.
Washington DC can keep you busy for weeks with museums alone
I'm so happy to hear your story about Gracie! I know first hand the feeling of showing an animal a better life after a previous traumatic one. We had a sweet, wonderful cat who was 4yo when we got him. Whenever we reached toward him to pet him, he cowered like he expected us to hit him. We were (and are) convinced he was punished by his previous owners for peeing around their newborn baby's bed (territorial intrusion response, natural for a cat in those circumstances). That cowering went away over the first 2yrs, as he realized he was safe with us! He and we had 8 happy years together, and btw, he never peed in inappropriate places for us! I wish Gracie many happy years, too!
Re DC: the national zoo and all the Smithsonian museums are free to the public and fantastic. I particularly love air & space, natural history, and the native American museums. I also had a blast at the spy museum.
Yeah being black and becoming an atheist can also be a very big problem.
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I’m not even an atheist but I’ve got a biology degree. I’m persona non grata with some people in my neighbourhood because I’ll explain what evolution is when they question me about it and point out the ignorant pseudoscience nonsense of what creationists say about some science subjects
True, but there's actually a black atheist group on line. I simply don't tell black people I am, not for me but for them. I listen to all the church stories. Top me they are just stories about people being people, meaning self centered, selfish, jealous, the whole nine yards. I once had a black coworker show me a picture of someone she dated briefly and then whisper, he's an atheist, with a shudder. I just smiled.
People really believe this crap, so I find it a kindness. I let people pray over me at the hospital and will attend a church if invited. I've enjoyed a sermon or too. You don't have to be a believer to do so. Was once watching a talk show and this girl was in real distress over homosexuality.
My coworker, knowing me thought I'd mock the girl and I didn't. She looked at me so surprised. I responded, look at her, she really believes this stuff. She's in real distress. I feel sorry for her.
I'm a humanist. I don't particularly like people. I think we suck and ruining the earth, but I have empathy 🤷🏽♀️
Anyway, I'm an introvert and prefer animals to people. I know all of it was crap at the age of 7.
I get it - life is hard, death is scary, so many things we don't understand, and our daddies didn't love us enough, so believing in a sky daddy is comforting. But I'm an adult and thought like an adult even as a child. I just can't believe in nonsensical nonsense 🤷🏽♀️
You: "I know people hate when I talk about the dogs but..."
Me, hanging on every single word: "That disclaimer was unnecessary please tell me everything about your lovely little friends ;o; "
In all seriousness wrt that topic, I'm so proud of Gracie for making as much progress as she has, sounds like you guys've done a great job in bringing out the best in her and helping her feel safe and loved :3
How did Southern Baptists get to the point that they don’t realize that grape juice wasn’t a thing before pasteurization was invented?
I found that baffling too when I dated a Baptist in college. We had many arguments over how, yes, Jesus and other ancient people were drinking alcoholic beverages and that fermentation was a mainstay of food storage. The dumbest part is that she was a biology major and I a biochemistry major. So I knew what I was talking about when it comes to microbes and she had the educational background to understand it, but still bought the BS her pastors taught about grape juice.
I can already see the apologist dodge against the drinking excessive wine to disprove transubstantiation. They'll just say you're partaking in the sin of gluttony and therefore the wine couldn't be consecrated. Heads I win, tails you lose all over again.
Love how the Bible justifiers sound like Paul Lynde from Bewitched 😂 you’re awesome thanks
In DC, Apart from the monuments, mall, and Museums, Ford’s Theatre, the National Arboretum, and the zoo are worth checking out. Of course you can always rent a car and drive to Ocean City or Virginia Beach 🙂
Try Great Falls Park; either the Maryland or the Virginia side, or both. Virginia has the best view of the falls. Maryland has the towpath which is now an easy trail with beautiful scenery.
October is a beautiful month in DC. I’m a Native Washingtonian and based on 72 years of experience, May and October are the best months we have. High percentage of absolutely glorious days.
Nice to hear about your dogs. It's great that Gracie is starting to heal from whatever trauma she had been through. It reminds me that trust is earned. And sometimes, it takes a lot of patience and kindness to earn that trust from a wounded being. But the reward can be so amazing when that happens. It adds meaning to one's life.
Despite being surrounded by Evangelicals, Im so grateful I live in the Pacific Northest and can just claim to be "not that church-y" with little to no backlash.
Seth. I lived in Baltimore for 25 years. October is a great month. Usually the driest month of the year and pleasant temperatures.
We had 34 (Celsius) late August, as hot as it can get in Switzerland, and within two days 14, basically mid autumn. And floodings. It's crazy...
Strange how believers see their deity as an all-powerful entity, yet they feel the need to defend it as if it’s a weakling with an incredibly fragile ego. Doesn’t it remind you of the way they defend Donald Jenius Trump and send him money, while he’s supposedly this powerful billionaire? What is wrong with them?
This has always baffled me. Doesn't make sense why an all-powerful God needs to be defended when he can snap his finger and wipe your face off the planet any time you offend him. But then, is there really ANYTHING in religion that makes sense....cuz I've never found one.
Great point!!
@tklyte It creates narcissism, so it makes zero sense. Narcissists are 100% delusional.
The relligiouse nutcase become narcissistic because they think they are the chosen ones and therevore better than anybody else...
Aw, Natalie!! I feel for you! I also start to mourn in August for what the temperature will be in December. I'm in Cape Town South Africa and love the cooler weather. I know we are going to be roasting in December until March. Strongs to you. I'll think of you as we work out the weather.
DC isn't very cold in October. It can be kind of cool especially towards the end of the month but just jacket weather. Some years it's downright hot in he beginning of October.
Good description. I was just coming here to say this.
Being able to move around the country while working is nice. Summers in the north, fall in the east, winter south or west, spring in the mountains. Our travel trailer is great for us and the 2 dogs.
Nothing brings out the real true colors of the religious right than coming out as an ⚛️. The religious right nothing new or surprising.
I've been to Alaksa twice, and I'm definitely going back. People, if you ever get the chance, you have to experience it at least once in your life.
You must always be afraid because "Winter is coming".
Seth Go to the Smithsonian while in DC you will not be disappointed. You can spend up to a week walking through this place.
Considering the socio-economic status of much of "everyday" American people, their religious hope is the last thing that they can still cling to. You are punching holes in their imagined "life raft" by simply speaking rational truths.
That's a good point. They don't want logic and truth. Their delusion keeps them going since the world sucks.
When a sky daddy is in control of all, they don't have to take responsibility for their shit.
❤ good job gracie!!!!!
Ex Catholic here and transubstantiation was one of the many, many reasons why I left.
Of course I get a pro Israel Christian ad after this video. Love how they target atheist videos for religious ads. At least it won't work on us!
So sad hearing about families torn apart by non belief but hey, at least you're being true to yourself and what you believe, and have the facts on your side. There is no hate like Christian love.
Love your dog story I used to Foster dogs so I know first hand what you are talking about I had a dog that was very shy if you got near him and he couldn't get away he would pee , with in 3 years I got him to come to me and enjoy going for walks you should be very proud of yourself you've done an excellent job
I suggest Crater Of Diamonds National Park for a trip. It's in Murfreesboro Arkansas and it's the world's only public access precious minerals mine. Whatever you pull outta the ground no matter the size or value is YOURS TO KEEP!! Imagine the brownie points you'd win with your wife by getting her some jewelry with gems you pulled outta the ground with your own two MANLY hands!!
Atheist religion is an oxymoronic term
Another way to check if the wine turned into the blood of Jesus after you drink it is to check your “stool”. If the stool is black then either the wine turned into blood or you have a bleeding ulcer. 😊
My father was given a case of beer as a gift from a business associate. He poured it all down the drain. I would like to have snuke it out to sell it to some HS buddies.
27:12 The Catholic Church *_never_* uses grape juice; it’s against their rules. It _has_ to be wine.
The Catholic Church also doesn't use gluten-free substitutes for the bread or wafer.
@@robertwysocki2073 Not even for people with celiac disease. I recall a case of a 9 year old girl who was told by the church that yes, she had to eat the gluten.
But she needn’t worry. After all, after the consecration, it is no longer gluten; only the _“accidents”_ (superficial appearance) of gluten remain. Presumably, later on in the bathroom, she won’t _really_ be sick; she will only have the _superficial appearance_ of discharging from both ends.
The RCC can be unspeakably cruel when it makes a god out of its rules. But wasn’t it Jesus himself who said that the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath?
@@RickySTTThey never go with Jesus. They make their own stuff up.
There’s a sweet Catholic scandal in the fallout period where some bureaucrat had to renew a wine contract and he got the wrong kind. They used it for years without knowing they were doing their magic wrong. How come nobody noticed?
5:53 Mate, I agree with Natalie. I start thinking about the cold of winter in January, in 40C, and we almost never hit freezing temperatures 😊.
@ 15:52, evidence of not being your Children’s “Friend”. Children need a figure of discipline and RESPECT. That’ll be the very sad and unfortunate day that my Children go as far as disrespecting Us even with their tone of voice. Take charge Parents and employ proper DISCIPLINE!!!
Don't mistake abuse for "discipline". No god needs to be defended with violence, especially violence directed at children. It's horrifically easy to lose self-control when dealing with a defiant kid pushing parental limits.
Violent beast.
@@BrookeK92 Well respected by the Children... Much to learn...
I live outside of DC in Maryland and I'd say the best thing there to do is the Smithsonian Institute
Drunk on Jesus! LOL
I wonder if that gets you a pass on the DUI?
Texan here, it's kind of funny because people up north are always looking for someplace warm to go, and I'm always looking for someplace cooler or cold to go 😂. Over a hundred degree weather for weeks and I wanted to get out of it. 🥵 now mind you I don't want it to be super cold but I do want it to be in the 40s and fifties at night and during the day the upper 60s and lower 70s.
You know how they say people up north that have less than get depressed well I get depressed in summer time because I don't want to go outside at all when it's over 100 so I'm not getting the sun because I don't want to be out there. 😂😂😂🥵🥵
I became an atheist at 40. I have been a member of the FFRF for years now. I always love when a Christian approaches me to talk about the bible. They often get bored and leave. I wish they had more interest in discussing it. The first book I bought was Losing Faith in Faith by Dan Barker, but I have a large library, since. It's sad how many of us are indoctrinated and it takes some of us years, to critically examine our beliefs. It's certainly well worth the effort to be free of dogma!
Allow the obvious. You actually = were born an atheist. All humans are born lacking innate knowledge of "God" or religions. These things = must be taught to them - further evidence of their human origin. So you actually "broke your conditioning" at 40 to return to your "default" state as a human. Adherence to theism is as alluded to actually a conditioned behavior construct. Typically people starting as children are systematically inculcated into religious belief by the adults around them - who they instinctively trust. It is tantamount to Pavlovian conditioning. 🤨
If you live in the past you are depressed, if you worry about the future you have anxiety.
Our civilization is reaching a nexus. Those who cling to theism increasingly find themselves unable to adapt to the inevitable - and inexorable - change which occurs with every culture over time. Consequently they are beginning to lash out at society agitating more and more for what could prove to be conflict. Unable to live in peace with others and clinging to their anachronistic dogmatic worldview they move towards what might be viewed as a modern form of the Crusades viewing all others as "infidels" as they desire to supplant the existing culture with their own.
Moral of the story: it is ironic in that people always feared nuclear weapons as destroying the world eventually when the real threat was always right in front of us........... 🤨
Our civilization is also reaching a Nexus due to global warming and climate change!
Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews! Congrats on the Gracie progress! I'm so glad you kept her, she's probably learned from Linus, too. I remember you asked, 'should we keep her?'. I hope the family you got her for are happy. She wouldn't have fit there as well. And did the carrying her first block help? That was a great idea. Ok, excellent show today! Thankyou. 👍💖💙🥰✌
A thought-provoking conversation. I haven't come to the point where I can say "I'm atheist" to a very religious family. I don't know if I need to stir that pot.
My ears perked up when I heard the caller say she is going to the FFRF Conference. I have been before, met some cool people, and I am looking forward to going again the Oct.
Seth Andrews is magnificent!
One of the oldest extant bibles is a manuscript written in Ancient Hebrew from the 5th or 6th century. The word that was used to describe the Hebrew slaves in Egypt was “Ebet.” When describing slavery in Exodus 21, Leviticus 25, etc., they used the same word, Ebet. So there is no doubt they were talking about slavery, not simply servitude or servants.
I'd love to call in sometime! When? How?
i'm exactly like your wife about summer and winter. i hate winter. in july i am lamenting the coming of cold weather.
Every body is entitled to their own opinion as long as they agree with our views - religious people.
It is only a 'beating" depending on which end of the rod you are on.
Seth, if any Christian actually says "spare the rod, spoil the child" to you, point out that they are not quoting the bible, but a very bawdy poem.
Proverbs 13:24 says "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." But "spare the rod and spoil the child" comes from Hudibras, a Samuel Butler poem that mocks Puritanism.
"The child," in this case, is Cupid, Eros, love itself! And that section of the poem is all about BDSM.
Reminds me of an episode of _Tales from the Crypt,_ where Uncle Ezra, the owner of a funeral home, thought that "a penny saved is a penny earned" came from the Bible.
I feel you Natalie! I start to think about the end of summer after the 4th of July. The second half of summer goes too fast.
Your caller will really enjoy the drive from anchorage to Fairbanks. There’s no billboards in AK
I keep saying, if the omnipotent al loving dude needs you to fight, hurt others for him, he's neither of those attributes.
I love hearing stories with great heartfelt, heartwarming moments without someone saying afterwards "Glory to God!", "Halelluer!", or "Praise Jesus!"
If you happen to even nod your head to someone who happens to close out situations like that. The next thing they try to do is witness, preach, or whatever to ya. I'm like "Get behind me Satan!" Lol😂
In addition to the monuments in DC, there's a bunch of free Smithsonian Museums and the Zoo there. You can also tour the Capitol, and of course there is Arlington National Cemetery bordering DC.
And it won't be super chilly in October. A sweater, light jacket, or hoodie should be enough for morning and evening, and it warms up pretty well during the day.
I’m in the same situation with the guy who has kids and wants to tell his parents he’s atheist.
My parents are in their 70’s and they are in the place where they won’t change thier mind on god.
My mom is emotional my dad is a one way thinker, his way or no way.
A daughter who thinks violence is ok is a sad thing over a challenge to her belief. Kind of proves she is wavering deep down inside. You need to press charges though because that's not acceptable behavior no matter who it is.
She might actually get the help she needs if you get the documentation of mental issues that need addressing.
Does anyone know what “Nazi” means? It is the abbreviation of the German word, Nazionaliste, meaning Nationalist. The Nazis were White Christian Nationalists. Sound familiar?
One way to stay rich is by spending other people's money.
i like this
Been an atheist since I was 7 yo back in the 50's and I kn2w it was crap. But it was the Christians during the Obama years that made me say it aloud.
Actually you were born "an atheist" - since no human is born with innate knowledge of "God" and religions. Those things = must be taught to you. Thus atheism is actually the default for man. Hence you mean to say you rejected your conditioned beliefs which were likely foisted upon you by your parents as is usually the case - just as religion was pushed onto them by your grandparents. The perpetuation of theism is a pure Pavlovian conditioning paradigm - typically beginning at an early age.
BYOG hahaha
Visit the Smithsonian Natural History Museum!!!
Chug that God blood!
Attempt to harm me no matter who does it will meet the god they believe in.
All those apologists on the subject of slavery in the buy bull. Are they the same guys who say the buy bull is the word of god, immutable, from the hand of god himself?
Oh look some more hypocrisy
Itself showing that religion is selfimploding and this behaviour is symptomatic with people losing the control over people losing their religion which in their heads being bad because the average joe needing religion and getting its moral compass from a supposedly sacred and unqestionable deity.
REPENT! GOD'S JUDGEMENT IS COMING!
Respect for jd. Id love to talk to this guy. Hmu. Mom's 84 and because of religion, we're at war to the death. Whole family as a matter of fact. We need to change this cycle of idiocy and retardation.
Good morn from Montana
Too much talk about a damn dog😊
I'm a pioneer, I love to wander!❤
It pbly won't affect you that way but I'm pretty sure it'll affect you in a different way if it was actual blood especially, if he was a resurrection then a zombie jesus