BattleBit Remastered Dev react to firearms expert reacting to Battlebit guns
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(ɔ◔‿◔)ɔ ♥Gamespot React Video: • Firearms Expert Reacts... - Hry
now we need a random youtuber reacting to the devs reacting the Jonathan Ferguson reacting to BattleBit Remastered
Be the change you want to see in the world
-Bob Marley 1944
I'll gladly do that
Asmongold. Has no connection to FPS games at all but feels like just the right person to do so.
The circle of life
@Jev vid?
The great thing about Jonathan is, that he plays video games and can analyze graphics and game mechanics with the right context.
I agree so many "experts" know 0% about video games but this guy got it.
Agreed, he even mentions that even though the RPG explosion and resulting destruction is unrealistic, he acknowledges that it is good for game design and balance.
that guy said you shouldn't inertia rack a pump action shotgun because you might damage it. He's a maroon.
@@Shane-eg5kqyou mean putting all the weight of the gun into the slide rails and swinging it up and down? That could easily damage some older or more fragile firearms. ‘Damage’ could be as little as a slight deformation in a single part.
@@judgemental9253 If you think inertia racking is bad for a pump You've clearly never racked a pump. Do you think you gently rack the pump? If that's going to damage it, what's going to happen when you fire it? Lmao.
God bless Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons throughout history
Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons throughout history, is a cool dude.
Man, I love Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons thoughout history, he looks like such a cool dude
I'd love to have a job like the one Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons throughout history has. Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons throughout history sure is a cool dude
If I ever end up in the UK, I'll be sure to visit Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons throughout history.
@@BluE68_ I've been to the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons throughout history a number of times and I can say it is great although sadly I've never seen Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons throughout history . You should really go to the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons throughout history.
What's great about this is not only are the developers are excited to see Johnathan critic and applaud their game, but also to give them advice on what to change to be like the real life counterpart
The surprisingly detailed critic does show he acknowledges the devs do care a lot to get things right. These videos with both Jonathan and Matt Easton both have them usually skimping over telling the whole information to save on time, until they see something they really like going on and go full tilt with the critique.
yes.. but also nerf the 74s recoil lol
@@awakeandwatching953 Nah, more like Nerf the Vector
The nice thing about the simple art style is you can easily make changes to the models without costing much time.
It still naturally takes a decent amount of time, but the low poly style vastly reduces the whole process time, along with the lack of texture detail this simplifies it further.
@@ThatWhichObservesYou just repeated what the op said.
not time, but resources. Lower poly means much more optimisation
@@ThatWhichObserves bro why are you repeating what he said lmao
A massive thing also has to be that the animations are so much easier to make/adjust because there are no articulated fingers on the characters
Dev is so happy smiling like a little kid... like a golden retriever being told they're a good boy
These devs are ametour but They're more prouder than Average Triple A games.
@@friendlyfire3412 its amazing what devs can do if their soul didnt get sucked out by corporate greed.
@@mio2540 And 8 Years(Oki made this game since 2013-15?... Yeah Exactly.
@@friendlyfire3412 2077 is a triple A game and took quite a while
@@mio2540The devs usually aren't the greedy ones. Unfortunately nowadays in triple A development devs have very little to no control on how their game will be monitized.
14:30 when he says "im assuming you cant pick the mag back up" and the dev side eyes is so fucking funny
He did correct his statement on that in the second video on the game :D
these devs are true heros giving us a game we always wanted that walks all over call of booty and battlepeeels
I just wish battlefield would start dropping bangers again. BF1 was incredible, then BFV and 2042 just killed the entire series in 2 releases. BF1 is still crazy cinematic though
Tbh. They're vastly different experiences. Battlebit has filled the niche the older BF titles left. And filled it very well.
Call of Creditcards, and Battlecredit.
@@inutero3516 bf1 is a terrible pvp experience, but otherwise it's a masterpiece
bfv pvp is very fun. if it wasn't riddled with cheaters, it's a blast. love me ww2 era firearms
@@inutero3516BF3 literally perfected the formula, and Battlebit shows how it never needed to be changed. It just needs to be smooth and consistent.
Bro I remember how wild june 24th was, so much shit was going on for them it was amazing. The guns might even become better too, because a guntuber (garand thumb I think) asked if one of the devs wanted to fly over to the US to shoot some real guns and record audio
They deserve all the success, such a good fucking game
i agree i've never been more excited to see what the future of this game holds!!
garand thumb is a W fr
typical garand thumb W
Recording audio would definitely be amazing
Flannel daddy W
Every time the guy made any sort of criticism, I looked over at Larry to watch him mentally note the things he needs to fix. I'm so excited.
I'd love to see the game add the PKM, QJB-95, RPK, etc. Thanks for making most fun shooter in my steam library right now.
Rpk is definitely one of my favourite guns ever made so I second this lol
given the distinct lack of weapons for the support class i think it's reasonable
I too updoot this, I'd love to see a RPK and PKM in this
i'd rather have the PKP
We'd love to see PKM, RPK, RPD, etc, maybe M60, M240.
I hope this dev is feeling on top of the world as they deserve all the praise they've received. It's rare to see this genre get a breakout indie game when it's normally dominated by triple A studios releasing the same game for their yearly revenue bump.
ironically it's exactly because triple A dev with a deep pocket publisher that pushes out yearly product that exhausted their own market and the consumers
people wanted something fresh, something fun to play, maybe an hour or two a day
not sitting at the menu waiting for a 20+ GB update so that the graphics may look a tiny bit more realistic
meanwhile the game itself is a sweat fest and microtransactions
God, the genuine happiness about all this from the Dev is so pure.
I'm a long time follower of Jonathan Ferguson from the Royal Armouries, an amateur firearms enthusiast, somebody who has had the privilege to vist the Pattern Room at the Armouries and somebody who also owns Battlebit Remastered - All the priase Jonathan heaps on the weapons in this game are much deserved.
Get the game, have a blast.
how does one get to see the pattern room? i know Ian from forgotten weapons got to see it because of his important work, how do you get that chance as a regular person?
@@manuelschurig2266 under pretty special circumstances. Members of the public rarely get access unfortunately but understandably.
This is what I always wanted to see from his videos, a dev reacting to it or being like:thanks for the feedback, we did this because of this and that
You may have already seen it, but gamespot did release a video something like what you are talking about where the devs of Hunt: the showdown, watched the review of their game, changed some things, like a reload animation to how jonathan described, and even commented themselves on what weapons they would like him to take a look at in future parts of the game.
They got the compliments as well as constructive critisicm. Now gotta put what is acceptable in the game from the featured guns.
bro it would be cool seeing the devs try out the guns irl lol
They should come across the pond and enjoy them here in America you can shoot any fully auto rifle here with the right licensed guys present. Hell I’m trying to get my class 3 license so I can own fully automatic rifles.
Even though BattleBit really isn't the sort of game I'm usually into, I have to say it's always so wholesome to watch developers reacting to their work getting the recognition it deserves. That little cheer you did when Jonathan praised the case ejections just made my day.
Amazing to see how impressed Jonathan was with this game. And even better to see the Devs taking on board his feedback and making changes, just like what the Hunt Showdown guys have been doing. And if this means a buff to the AK74 then I am a happy chappy
he's so humble about his nation firearms like "we tried", "British army did their best"
I wonder how the firearm expert would react to this video
Multiverse of React
I used to live next to Royal Armouries, it's free to visit
Regarding Kriss Vector, the gun does have a recoil of course, what the mechanism is designed to reduce is muzzle climb. But it doesnt turn the gun into laser beam, just makes the muzzle being shaked around in multiple directions rather than up. You will still lose some ability to keep the gun on target just like you would with other 9mm SMGs with such an extreme rate of fire, it just doesnt come from vertical muzzle climb.
I can confirm about AK recoil. The recoil shown is about correct for an AK-47, but the 74 fires the 5.45x39mm...which is far lighter. (more like the NATO 5.56x45mm.)
You saying you’ll go back and watch it again and take notes! It just shows a willingness to improve and learn. And I think with a game like with, as Jonathan calls it, low-polly-graphics I feel like it’s probably easier to go in and make changes to models or animations compared so some hyper-realistic games. Really hope they do a follow up in a while to cover some more of your weapons, and perhaps revisit some changes, who knows
BattleBit Remastered Dev stands there in silence as firearms expert reacts to Battlebit guns
Johnathan would not be surprised that your Vector has recoil as he already pointed it out in other games as something that's wrong but probably needed for the sake of balance. This guy is great not only because of his knowledge but also awareness of the gaming development rules and also the "cool factor"
Jonathan is the guy you want giving you feedback on your guns. He gives constructive criticism and clearly understands why certain choices were made. Also a great compliment and he says it if he has to nitpick then the gun is really well modeled.
Being a Dev get Feed Back by Jonathan is literally a Message from god.
You know you made it when Johnathan Ferguson, The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery in the Royals Armories Museum in the UK, makes a video about your in game weapon models and giving out Ws after Ws.
Really cool to see the devs POV throughout the game, more devs should do this sort of thing!
I was a range safety officer for a bit, and I got to shoot all the full-autos (FA) a bit.
In my experience: shooting the HK MP5 and the Kriss Vector one after the other, the difference in recoil was mind blowing, and not in the way you might first think. The MP5 was so pleasant to shoot, easy as hell to hold on target during full auto fire. The Vector's recoil, in both .45 ACP and 9mm, was DEVASTATING. At least I couldn't handle it.
Couple more brief addendums, I shot a 9mm G18 at FA WITH an attached stock; incredible muzzle rise, not a fan.
FA M4A1 with red dot, FUN, of course, not effective, however.
And lastly, my favorite gun I've had the pleasure of firing FA, an M1928 Thompson in .45 ACP. Most controllable recoil I've experienced in a full auto. I could control that recoil while standing unsupported with little effort.
Last fact and I'm done. The reason the Tommy Gun is so recoilless is in part because it is so damn heavy. Heavier than an M1 Garand, in fact, which fires a full power rifle cartridge.
the one that was built around its entire recoil mitigation system has more recoil? doubt
That was my first thought too! Imagine my shock!
@@Syddy_ the vector is a huge meme, there's a reason practically no agencies, departments or militaries bought it and it had nothing to do with cost.
the recoil system just isn't very good. a predictable straight push back into the shoulder actually works way better.
ask anyone who has actually shot one in full auto or watch any of the videos talking about how much it sucks.
really effective marketing team though, the average pleb is fully convinced they're magical laser beam smg's.
@@StrikeReyhi the 9 hole reviews video of it seemed very positive
@@StrikeReyhi i watched videos of people firing them before i made that comment, every single one looks like there's no upward recoil
I love that the Devs are so involved, this is my favorite game of all time.
Something I think they could do, is give all the support weapons bipods.
thanks for the vod clip
:)
Great to see someone putting in the effort when they get feedback
The fact that your character doesn’t forcefully slaps the charging handle from the MP5 also bugged me a bit 😅 I hope it gets a animation rework so he actually slaps that filthy charging handle 😜
But it’s amazing that you guys actually acknowledge his feedback and i hope a second reaction releases.
This game is so good. It deserves all of the great praise it has been receiving. I haven't this much fun in a game in so long, it feels refreshing.
Jonathan is not only very good in firearms, he is good with firearms, and on top of all this, he is a gamer, he is one of us, boys
BattleBit is the benchmark how game should feel like !
the kriss vector can be balanced while being realistic. it doesnt have muzzle climb but it does have a lot of vibration when you fire. the barrel sort of rises a very little bit up then swings over to the right (if you are right handed, left else i would reckon?) and then pops down. its like a small 270 degree action on the barrel. you definitely feel recoil when you fire, it just does not climb much. however if you go full auto with it you do get a lot of vibration and the rounds basically disperse in a 270 degree pattern ignoring the diagonally down left. its easier to manage than most other pdw's but it surely isnt 100% effective as some people would like to believe. i dont think anyone outside kriss who fired that gun irl would claim its recoilless.
I love that youtube users upvote things like this when it's obvious the commenter is clueless.
@@Shane-eg5kq Man, you love painting yourself like the complete asshole that you are.
@@Shane-eg5kq thats not a counter argument
it's just a marketing technique to sell an overly engineered designed
but, do you realize how wide of an angle 270 degrees is? How much of a rotation 270 degrees is?
hes so genuinely happy about the guy pointing out stuff they got right. these devs just keep showing themselves to be truly committed
I've seen a few people review Vector and several of them said that there IS recoil, its just distributed in a weird way that made the gun less comfortable to use for them lmao
Recoil on vector is pushing down, it’s uncomfortable because you actually have to push gun slightly up
This is so heartwarming and awesome to see him excited!
MY ONLY gripe with the review is that he didnt go through the different attachments!! and all the bells and whistles for each gun. battlebits really is impressive. BEST 15 IVE EVER SPENT.
This guy is a developer to be inspired by
if I ever get my mental health shit figured out enough to put the work in to release a whole game, this is the dude I wanna be like. Excellent.
Meanwhile triple A publishers claiming games are to hard to make nowadays and demanding higher prices for their products.
This was great. I love Jonathan Ferguson, someone who plays games and understands the tradeoffs as well as being a gun expert working in a firearms museum. Seeing the dev himself have all his hard work and dedication appreciated was a real feel good moment. Plus you could see from the feedback and suggestions he genuinely cares about making the game accurate despite the incredibly basic graphics.
Of all the games to lead the Battlefield/CoD war I never thought it would be one looking barely better than Minecraft. But given the genuine passion I'm seeing from this dev I can really see why it's got things so right.
repacking mags in battlebit is like that scene in elf where buddy makes all those snowballs
So wholesome! You guys rock
would love to see some older weapons added too, kar98, mosin, svt40, ppsh. any ww2 era guns really :)
I would love to see them added! Naturally they should be true to life and as such should be objectively worse than most of the modern guns. But yeah seeing them added would be super cool!
@@turtleman5405 tell me what makes an old bolt action worse than a new bolt action^^
@@Schimml0rd First I would like to premise this with the fact that I am not an expert on firearms, history, or war. That being said I am going to pull heavily from online sources that know more than I do. From everything I've read modern firearms are generally superior in ammo capacity, ergonomics, sights, and materials.
"However, that superiority in terms of rate of fire and hitting the target in real terms may be an inch or two per 100 yards." - Some cool gun guy on Quora
So to answer your question I think a modern bolt action is only minorly superior to the previous generations of weapons you mentioned. That is, if we are specifically talking about bolt action weapons.
I think they are going with the sim that you are a modernly equipped army and there would be no reason they needed to revert to something super old.
@@Schimml0rd less options for customization, weight, ergonomics, quality of the parts which impacts accuracy, capacity, calibers that might not be as optimal for the job as more modern ones (for example the amount of recoil compared to the effective range etc), it all adds up.
Jonathan is a real gamer, not just a fire arms expert, he funny understands what yall are going for with the low poly style
You guys are doing a brilliant job, seriously impressive.
this guys read a comment on twitter saying if you dont like battlefield why dont you go and do it yourself and took it way too seriously thank you guys your game is amazing certified fine ill do it myself moment
you guys deserve all the love for the fantastic work you've done. love the support from the community 🙂
These devs are way too humble.
Like you made a game that's better than the last 5 Battlefield games as 3 guys and you're not even stopping.
Most deserving guys of some time off^^
Thats gotta feel real good to see and hear!
So glad all your hard work is paying off, and verbally taking on the great constructive criticisms, this game is amazing and I'm glad it's getting the recognition it deserves
It brings me joy seeing a game dev happily celebrating that highly respected reviewers love their game. They deserve all the praise they get and their spot on the top
its nice seeing devs actually enjoy what they do
This is great! They just uploaded part 2 today!
I don't know if the devs weill see this but I suggested it on the GameSpot video as well.
Perhaps you guys could do something where the Devs visit the Royal Armouries and Jonathan lets them hold, inspect, and work some of the mechanisms of the weapons. Since the game is doing pretty well maybe they could offer a donation to the Museum.
Just a thought. Would love to see more.
If i were a developer on a game using real weaponry, I would bring this guy in as a consultant
Some games have, Johnathan talked about how he advised the devs of Sniper Elite 5 in his video on the game's weapons.
Also the Royal Armouries are in collaboration with Team17 for Marauders a.k.a Space Tarkov. The amount of rare and obsure variants of guns they have in that game is fairly impressive, but it's still rough and in early access.
Marauders' direct collaboration with Royal Armouries is probably one of the main factors on why they've haven't done an episode on it yet; they're waiting for a more complete version so they can show off their very best efforts.
I will probably be making a game soon, doubt it'll have many guns in it but I literally used to live about 2 miles from the royal armouries coulda got that easy haha.
@@SSgtJ0hns0n Love Marauders. I seen the video of him talking about a few guns in the game with the Developer
The honey Badger should just hit the bolt catch button upon employ reload, same with the M110.
Happy for you guys, haven‘t played the game but i heard a lot of positives! Good job and good luck onwards!
it must be such a euphoric feeling to get such professional criticism while still being shown the respect the game devs deserve
This is glorious, How cool to have a legit expert review your game like this.
Started playing this weekend and I love it. It's fun, its fast paced and the gunplay feels really awesome. Keep up the great work.
Thank you and your two bros for making this game! I having so much of a blast and i am feeling a little bit younger!
The joy at the begining!!! Such a wholesome moment
I so happy for you du de. I watched the original video, and theres comments on it about your reaction. And I believe they've mentioned it again in other videos, but I could be gaslighting myself on that. But you did an excellent job on it. Made me want to play it.
you guys deserve all the praise, such a complete and fun game
I love how excited they got for seeing the hard work recognized.
seeing the dev both hyped and excited aswell as very observant what the expert has to say; it shows true passion for his work, not only pride, but also the will to make it as good as possible... I think I'm going to get this game soon, not only because it looks fun, but also because it is a cause and team worth supporting
You guys absolutely deserve this. You have taken the military FPS genre by storm with something so simple-looking, yet made with so much love and care. You reminded everyone what really matters in a game and made something with a lot of heart and charm. Keep up the fantastic work.
This fills my heart with joy. So happy for these guys.
yo shoutout to this guy and all the other devs of this beautiful game
This is awesome. Love seeing them/him witness such glowing praise
Funnily enough, the physical, on-rifle range finder would not be difficult to use if you know your dope (your ranging/drop+drift data) by heart. Shooting rifles like that is often fairly aimple to just open both of your eyes and shift focus between down-range and up close by using the different eyes.
It'd be a fairly simple matter to check your range by just opening an eye, glancing at the display, and then refocus back into the scope. For the limitation of video games, I think how it shows up in the scope is perfectly fine, as it achives basically the same effect as what I described
So excited to see the "soon to be shorter RPG fragmentation rounds" ❤😂 These devs are awesome its so fun to watch them riding this wave of success & immediately taking note of everything they can fix, improve, tweak and/or add to the game! I just wish I could mod it so I could hear a "Roblox Oof" every time a player gets downed
Speaking of sniping distance of 845 meters, I got 1175 as my max on sv98 and seen someone get 1800 meters, it was insane
Honestly Didn't expect to love battlebit as much as i have so far, learned the amount of devs that worked on it recently as well. I'm glad they are getting the recognition they whole heartedly deserver.
i almost teared up, seeing your reaction. Kudos
What is refreshing is this developer being excited to add quality feedback to the game. Kudos!
And now they just released part 2 Let's go!!!!!
Pretty cool, guys. It's not the kind of game I would generally play, but been hearing very good things about it. I saw a couple of firearms I have actually used and I am just as impressed as he was with the way you have managed to capture important details and silhouettes whilst still being low polygon count. Amazing stuff, and great attention to detail across the board; even his strongest criticisms were actually nitpicking, because you set the bar so high.
I love how the dev is so happy that he is having the guns reviewed.
These guys being prepared to take a hammering in critique publicly and take notes directly from an expert is amazing.
Developers for the AAA games should take note and be prepared to learn from experts and the people who buy and ply their games
GG guys! You deserve all the praise!
I'm so glad to see this game crushing the competition, Bravo 👏
Aw this is so wholesome, I love it!
these guys killed it on Battlebit, love how this may make the mainstream companies wake up
That was super wholesome. As someone who did the job for real & went to armorer's school I know I can clearly tell why the game is called remastered. A LOT of love & care went into the guns & almost all of them work properly and cycle like their IRL equivalents. You guys did a great job & I'm enjoying the crap out of the game.
I love how giddy the Dev looks here and it really is a well done game. Very well done that overshadows Triple A companies with their 'impressive' game nowadays. Jonathan is also always a pleasure to watch on screen.
The devs did a great job here and looks like he will work to improve it to make it realistic. I love this!
This is essentially the same a getting a free consultation from a firearms expert for any details they may have missed in the gun models.
Its so refreshing to see the Devs Generally Interested in their game and Im so glad a purchased it right when it came out, I've played the playtests and the proximity chat People aren't Overtly toxic just generally having a great time and having fun playing the game.
It would be cool to see this guy react to ready or not weapons
my steam account got hacked and now i had to rebuy the game for the second time and i just lost my 1200 cs go knife, this video brought me joy, keep uploading!
Well done, congrats on what is really a milestone achievement.
About Vector and "recoiless" guns in general: they all have recoil just because there is a bolt that slaps if not at the end but at least when round goes into the chamber. It's not vertical move, but it is a move. You can implement it as slight random horizontal moves because your armes are not made out of concrete. This can be a way to balance guns like Vector and AK, with a slight moves that obscure vision, but bring sight back. There was some guns in Battlefield 5, I think, that was slightly worse just because their recoil was overshooting return point, and that just on bolt rifles - you can't just aquire target back as quick as on the other one that did not have overshoot in aiming.