What Modifications For My Alfa Romeo 4C??
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- What Are my plans to modify my Alfa Romeo 4c? Find out what i want to do to the 4c in this video. The Alfa Romeo 4c is a great car as is. so involving but there are a few things i would like to explore.
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I did some mods to my 4C which transformed the car from a sportscar to a very serious sportscar:
- Shims for the lower front wishbones from Madeno Racing. Gives me -2 camber in the front
- Yokohama AD08R tires (215/40/18 in front, 255/30/19 in the back) Makes it possible to do a launch control from 6000 rpm without wheelspin, and combined with the shims there is no understeer
- Beek Racing remap (+48HP). Raised power on the dyno from 248HP to 296HP. Limited the torque at 400NM
- BMC air filter without the sock coming at the standard filter. Much better airflow, more induction noise and overall a little extra power. You don't need the sock, only if you live in the UAE.
- Spacers (15mm) in the back. Makes the car way more planted and overall it solves the horrible gap in the wheel arches.
That's it. The transformation is just amazing. 0-100 in 3,5 seconds, 100-200 in 8,2 seconds. No understeer, no wheelspin with launch control and even more fun. Have to say: I already had the racing package out of the factory, so it's the most sporty 4C you could buy.
That sounds like a lot of fun. Will definitely explore some of these mods. 3.5 is just crazy quick!
Be great around a smooth race track skycrap!
@@Mexxx65 I track it a lot! TT Assen is my favorite track, because it is really smooth! Sometimes nurburgring also. This car needs to be tracked. Straight line is fun, bit it is really build for the track.
skycrap can you please send me the links for the Shims and the spacers, thank you,
and what is the shims for? what will they improve?
I'd definitely go for the clear headlights... the wheels are great as the are but I've seen some aftermarket ones which do look awesome!! Enjoy it
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What phone holder do you use stef? Cheers
Jack Oliver Slater car does come with two phone holders. Down by each seat. Won’t hold a plus size phone though. I tried panavise action grip. Hold is fantastic. But does vibrate at speed. So going to try a tri-cup mount next
If you wanna keep it black but was considering a wrap, why not black with an added colour. Like gold fleck or metallic cherry red or a dark pearly racing green. Give it some depth, make it really moody in different conditions. I like how silver cars look under yellow street lamps at night.
Have the alfaworks remap for 280hp. Also the Quicksilver exhaust and larger shiftpaddles. Perfect options. A rear camera will also improve your ease of use, I have it combined with a joying Android 8inch mediasystem wich includes a proper gps. Those were options I really had to have since I daily the car for almost 2 years now.
Awesome dude!
As a 4C Spider owner I've picked up on a number of things you've mentioned, in the video. The Alfaworks steering mod is a must. I used to call it 'ditchfinder' steering as the factory set up was track focused and useless on UK roads. I was one of the first 4C owners to have this done and It transforms the car. I 'm happy with my Pirelli P-Zero AR tyres which are more suited to low temperatures. I know 4C owners who don't take their car out in temps below 7c because they have the racing package option which included the ARR tyres that needed heat in them to work properly. The bug headlights were standard on the Coupe but Alfa added the Spider or clear headlights as a cost option on later cars. The bug lights cannot be changed to clear as an afterthought, the wiring harnesses are totally different. I've driven the Alfaworks car with 280bhp and the same car with 350bhp. Personally I think 280 bhp is ideal if you want more power but I'm quite happy with my 240bhp. I also have the Alfaworks Quicksilver Helmholtz exhaust on my 4C, it makes a great noise without the drone. Not sure if the link has been posted before but Jamie Porter is the UK's 4C guru and is well known globally. He's currently working on a 2 litre engine for the 4C. They also do servicing at sensible prices so there's no need to be frightened of cost of maintenance. I have a great dealer so don't have to drive lots of miles to Alfaworkshop as the dealer rates are very good. BTW, I'm not on commission it's just nice to let people know where the experts are. I've no comment to make on the spacers but maybe that's something I might consider at some point. www.alfaworkshop.co.uk/
Well the cheapest mod is the spacers and if they don't work out you can use them as big beer mats in your new house. Chasing engine horsepower will bring in the law of diminishing returns for ROI, plus I would check what your gearbox is rated to should you go that route. Not keen on the wheel design but it's all in the owners eyes at the end of the day. Good Luck whatever you do.
Carbon headlights! I dont get it why people find them ugly. Theyre so special. Little spider eyes
I agree. Like the headlight style
Hey mate I got my spacer kit from Madness in the states. Really exceptional quality. Mine are the 5 front and 20 rear. Not quite flush but it looks like it should have done from the factory. They now offer a 10 front and 25 rear I believe for a more modified look. I have the alfaworks geometry kit too. Car handles very well and has minimal tramlining if any. Also, I recently got the Alfaworks ecu. It's the factory Bosch with upgraded map. It makes a "massive" difference and is a must do modification. The torque hits hard around 2500rpm and it pulls hard to redline. Plus it has much smoother downchanges in the lower gears. Eurocompulsion offer the same for only $1000 US on special. Worth every penny.
Awesome mate. Will defo check that out!
@@StefABtv forgot to mention the Madness spacers bolt on with a countersunk bolt and they provide longer wheel bolts.
They revised that geo in 2015 so you may well find your car wasn't that bad... Even the early ones weren't THAT bad. Also get some super sports on it as they improve the tramlining further. Can't get the PS4S in 18's yet.
You can't just swap the lights over as the looms are different. However you can get the carbon covers.
Get the car PPF'd for sure.
Hope you had a read of my 4C buyers guide on Pistonheads.
Go for 600 bhp!! Just kidding of course.
Steering sounds like a “must-have” so good that it’s done.
I put spacers on my Giulia I think they were 20mm rear, 12mm front - didn’t affect handling and looks great!
Private number plate is a bitch and can be time consuming where you are.. I’m in Ohio and got my first name for my “vanity” plates “MARTYN”.!! Try that back in the UK...
remap might be good but does it affect warranty?
Wrap? Nah..... black is good.
Exhaust mod sounds good. I won’t do it as my neighbors will complain!
Personally, I think your new transport looks good the way it is now so save up for the house and congrats!
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The term you're looking for is 'tram-lines'. This is where the car just wants to follow any lines or features in the road and tries to fight your input 👍
That’s the one 😂 thanks Steve!
Actually 'tramlining' but whatever. Whisky still brings out the pedant in me apparently ;)
I was referring to when you use it in a sentence. 'My bike used to tram-line a lot until I went for wider tyres. Fitting those tyres significantly reduced tram-lining'.
You can say it different ways, it means the same thing
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So you would say 'My bike used to tram-lines a lot'?
I have a shovel if it will help ;)
I can see you've not slowed down on the whiskey because that's not what I wrote at all lol
But yeah you can say tram-lines, tram-line, tram-lining, whatever the context of the sentence requires. Have to say, this is a bizarre conversation which doesn't appear to have a purpose lol 🤔
If I were you I would black it all out, full black, black rims also, it would look sick, I’ve seen a few 4C’s in full black and they look absolutely stunning
First. Congrats 🍾🎈🎊🎉 to you and the miss. That is big news number one ☝️. Second. Congrats 🎊🎉🎈🍾 on the house when it comes. Third. Please don’t trade the 4c for a minivan shortly after first and second.
P. S. I have 15 mil spacers on the back of mine. Just enough of a difference.
😂😂 thank you man!
Change the headlights to the Normal version, truly makes the car beautiful in my opinion at least, congrats again !
Can't be done, the wiring harnesses are totally different.
Those reflectors on the front and back arches are the only thing I'm not mad about on this car. Lovely 4C, black really suits it perfectly
Iv put 15mm spacers with wider tyres 245! The handling is much much better
I think the car looks good as is. A private plate is good, I have one as well. US headlights are nice, carbon in them is a nice touch. PPF is good, mine came with factory PPF. 300 HP would be a huge increase, It's fast stock , dynamic mode makes a big difference. Have the Akrapovic exhaust option, sounds good. So far using as a daily driver with no regrets!👍 Hope you're enjoying yours so far.
I did spacers and oz racing wheels
Nice! What size spacers?
Stef ABtv Otis 15mm/25mm
Bought my first Giulietta last year and I love them. Would love to transfer over to a Giulia in the next 2 years.
Mega cars the Giulia! You will love it
Fitting rear spacers will make it lean on the outside front of the tyre i.e. understeer. To compensate you would need to do the same ( guess work ? )to the front as more than likely slight understeer will have been built in
Stunning car mate. Great to see you joining the wife, mortgage and no money for cars club 😂
Haha that’s me 🙋🏻♂️ save me a seat at the table 😂
300hp sounds good. Get the Hankook RS4 tires.
I’ve got spacers and lots of AlfaWork mods, it handles like a dream :-)
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Really depends what you want out of the car in terms of mods. I recommend powerflex engine bush insert which smooths out the gear changes without any drawbacks. If you are serious about track driving then rear uniball bushes are a must. 280 bhp remap transforms the car to a weapon. Michelin tyres are good all rounders and far better than the pirellis. Again if you track the car then you may consider the smaller wheels with semi slicks. My 4c is one of the most tracked in the UK and I'm a regular contributor to the 4C UK FB group. Out at Brands next week 🙂
House & a wedding? Good luck with the mods, good luck in not having to sell the car . . .
It would make an awesome wedding car, imagine the wife getting out in her wedding dress :)
Mines got the carbon spider lights on white they look awesome..PPF is a must...look at Koshi for a lot of aftermarket carbon parts especially for the interior.always watch how the car is lifted the sills can be easily damaged....if ever your in the Midlands would be good to meet up..my 4c is the one vicky drove on CZcams (5th gear 4c)
Great video - the zender rear diffuser would look great - headlights are controversial as some describe as insect eyes with conjunctivitis however gloss or carbon fibre would lift the front. Spacers on rear - maybe modest track widening a good thing for stability and looks but wide front track and tapering at rear part of the appeal. Test drive with new A1 would be fun to see :)
Mods or not, that car is just awesome 👏🏽
Cheers mate!
What blocks did they install?
I have the rear spacers. Makes a huge difference in the looks of the car. The rear wheels look way too tucked in without them. Doesn’t affect drive that I noticed at all.
The other thing I did is koshi carbon fiber engine cover and interior pieces. Makes it look fantastic.
PPF is also a MUST on this car. The paint is soft as butter and the profile is a stone magnet.
What about the corsa center exhaust? That’s what’s going on mine.
Awesome what size spacer size did you go for man?
Stef ABtv they were on the car when I bought it. I believe 25mm rear. 16mm front.
I personally don't mind the tramming, it keeps me on my toes when driving, and both hands on the wheel.
Consider a back-up camera so you can see to park?
It’s got parking sensors so not too bad
All sound like good mods 👍 buying a great car to start with means you don't need to come up with much. I remember reading this way back when, seems Alfaworks do/did a few other mods besides the improved steering geometry. I wish more people bought 4C's just so there are more around to look at 😍
You need asap spacers!! You can buy the rear bumper that has the middle exhaust option like you get with akrapovic extra...other thing you will know that the 4c's engine is the same with giulletta QV and it has big tuning potential not only for stage 1 but more hp, here in greece its common upgrading the 1750 engines...!!! but yeah the must mods for me at least are spacers, exhaust with decat downpipe, ECU map, a spoiler lip????
What power have they got out of the engine on the stock turbo
@@StefABtv it doesnt hold much with stock engine but for sure you can have a stage 1...these engines are so downgraded from the factory cause of exhaust fumes and with just a decat downpipe, ECU tuning you can easily see over 300 hp and the engine will be working so much better with no limits...there are videos with brera tbi with k04 turbo but i dont remember if its stock engine or not
Yeah definately colour code the headlights Stef, see if you can tint the tiny little led's too but keep the indicator and main headlights normal! Propper lovely little car mate, bet it go's like nothing else! Does it live with joe's m2 on the twisty's?
Yeah there is nothing in it mate
Someone else might confirm but I'm sure I've read that the spacers help prevent the "tramlining" you talked about
Good to know!
You should wrap the the car, including the matte black headlights, in cypress green metallic (which is an old Mercedes colour), then put golden BBS RS wheels on it and spray the grill/all of the mesh parts on it in gold. That is what I would do to it.
That’s a mental colour combo. Not sure about the BBS wheels though personally on this car
@@StefABtv Yeah it is. An alternative to the BBS wheels would be spraying the standard wheels in gold or maybe a set of Ferrari 308 Speedline wheels or Lancia Stratos wheels in gold.
I ilke the headlights too, much better than the clear ones.
Yeah they look cool imo
The first thing that i would change….The exhaust, i dont know if you have something by capristo for example...There is an optional exhaust from Alfa for your 4c...And then….i would put all carbon parts that i could...
Looking forward to seeing what you do Stef! The painted charcoal large 5 spoke rims are my favorites, hands down 👍👍
Those rims on the Zender car were ghastly 😋
The carbon lights are nice and I got them on my car which I got second hand (same as you Stef) with 2k miles on her, I however have the smaller wheels, would have liked the bigger ones but I think it rides our crap roads a bit better on the small wheels. I bought a tow hitch number plate bracket so to take the number plate off the paintwork.,
I have been aching over the whole PPF thing, my car is Comp Red so a bugger to match, my detailer priced for a half bonnet/wings/spoiler kit from Suntek, I've been worried about half bonnet and the line across it so today I texted him and he is going to try and extend it on his plotter and go full bonnet and wings, yippee I'm so pleased apart from an extra £700 , the wife will kill me!
Also Stef, I recommend buying a house with an integral garage, I go into my garage most nights for a look at my lovely car.
You can get the Pilot Super Sport or the Pilot Sport 4 (a more 4 season friendly). Unfortunately, they do not make the star of the show Pilot Sport 4s in 18inch. Keep having fun and burn some tyre
Thanks dude! Yeah defo will have fun with the car :)
Check with Romeo Ferraris tuning! Best in Italy to grow up your 4C.
About the Pirelli P zero! There is a new design of them. For me are much better than Michelin Sport Pilot. Best👍👍
Go to SCARA 73 on You Tube
320 cv on your 4C👍👍
Cheers for the great content. Really like what are you doing. Good luck with the Alfa, really like the choice you made with it. Eyeing to get an Abarth 595 myself mainly thanks to your videos. Keep the updates and good luck!
Change both rear suspension arms (www.alfaworkshop.co.uk/parts/4C_Rear_arms.shtml) and the Spacers (live.alfaworkshop.co.uk/synergy/4C.php#lastPage3/6) of your liking both from Alfaworks. Will further enhance the handling characteristics of your car.
Carbon light surrounds would be awesome, diffuser would be nice and then get some new wheels that you love with the correct offset! Just my opinion of course.
Looks great As is! But I can see why you’d want the zender , I’d forget the rest & save for that .Good luck
Haha that’s a good shout 😂
Hi Stef, Pleased you have gone back down the Italian route, I own a 50th Anniversary, totally standard at the moment but in no rush to mod it, like you I always wanted one just for the beautiful lines the car has, there's not many cars out there that can compare to what the Italians produce, you have to have a passion for these cars, it's a love affair which goes back many years.Hope the house search goes well and congratulations on your up and coming wedding
Thank you so much Steve 🙌🙌
No mods
let's see:
semi-slicks ( trackdays )
stainless steel brake lines
3" downpipe
3" full exhaust
uprated intercooler
oil cooler for the TCT box
coilovers
full geometry
DS uno / ds 2500 brake pads
slotted discs
air intake
remap..... 310-320 hp..
destroy most cars on a sunny trackday, and 90% of regular cars on the way back home :D:D:D
Mate are you planning to do a road trip this summer with the 4c ? I love your videos !
I was supposed to go to monza this week but unfortunately can’t afford it st the moment due to house purchase. Maybe end of summer I might be able to get a roundtrip in the car
Service £1200. You better get a million subs to pay for servicing. I was going to get one and impressed by the speed, but service costs and selling it on could be a major problem.
Lol! Better make more videos 😂😂
Got a major service done today at 33000kms, costs 438€. Smal service, about 280€... in between tightening bolts on the chassis af ter 20k was done without cost. Usualy we pay extra for almost everything in Belgium opposed to other countries nearby, so I dont see why they should charge that amount in the UK.
£1200 for a service, mine cost less than £750.
I think the carbon headlights would look awesome- gloss black would be nice but imo it'd look too aftermarket. I love the granite like colour 5 whole wheels. The remap is only reeeallly noticeable above 100mph. I'd have the brakes in yellow as well 🤪
give james JWW a call. he can help you with ppf nvn london. you can make a vid about it
Might be a good shout 🙌
That upmost beautiful beast craves anti-lag 😁✌
Haha would be nuts!
Lovely car mate. Enjoy it
Thank you dude!
Powersteering if any and.. Repaint it in grey like 500 abarth. Only way to emphasise the zender thing. I think someone suggested too.
Doesn't match black colour
I'm gonna get a spider 124 grey with black hood shortly 😁
No way, it drives much better without power steering, you feel so much in control.
Congrats
Black teledials👌
Gorgeous car!
I'm suprised someone has not developed a powersteering kit that works on slow and parking speeds for the 4C.
i‘m not a bodybuilder or anything and i have absolutely no problems with parking whatsoever. since the car is really light you really don‘t need power steering imo.
@@South4153 - I love the idea of driving a light car with a manual steering; but i'm sure on a road trip across Europe with mates, it may start to prove tiresome. I know Alfaholics can engineer thier 105 series recreations with Power Steering that only works on slow speeds.
It's good fun without power steering, just make sure you are moving slightly when parking
Buy house, get married and then do mods - the 4c looks and sounds great like it is😊
When are you going to drive my B5 RS4 ?? Lovely car bud I’m only in Staines if you want to meet up and discover a Audi RS4 with 490 bhp
Hey Steph do you still have 4c.? I'm looking to buy one. How's it holding up if you still have it. Any advice on buying one ?
House, wife, life, love..I been married 27 years and love it..you will too
Thanks man
It is strange that you mention handling, especially on the english roads (I drive my front wheel drive 2018 Giulietta Veloce on the slippery greek roads and it spins when the turbo comes in with 3rd gear!). On the contrary, the italians maintain the opposite on their roads. Try the all time safe Michelins. I wouldn't mess with the engine, it is not two liters and it is always better when warmed enough (like the rattling Ducattis!). I also hope it survives with care the long way (I had the more rough version for 20 years and 230.000 kms on a lovely Barchetta!).
can't offer any advice but really interested to follow what you get up to with the 4C, even if it's next year for Mods;)
Thanks mate 🙌🙌
No no no leave it alone she is beautiful
Someone on our AROC 4C FB Page has just fitted powerflex engine mount inserts. He’s chuffed with them although got the typical Alfisti flack for doing so😕
How comes he got flack for it?
@@StefABtv Not quite true, there were a lot of comments made and not all favourable, flack is a bit over the top. Squadrone Rosso tends to exaggerate but he's a real Alfisto at heart.😊
Stef ABtv , changing something from factory & dared to mention it made the shifts as good as PDK.
Awesome car
Private plate? Really? That's the most pointless thing you can do, well unless your current plate spells something rude.
If you live near Joe I know where you can get a protective wrap.
Nice car, I looked at these cars before getting my GT86.
Nice car stef is the seating height better than Abarth ,I’m used to it though on my Abarth with sabelts as my previous car was a tsport Yaris and that was like sitting on top of the car lol
Yeah you sit low. Perfect position to drive the car
Private plates are pretty chavy
Definitely needs spacers! It would stance it lovely, surely only making the front wider would change the way it drives?
Love the wheels, whatever you choose to change/modify it’ll look good because you created a lovely look on your 595! All the best stef 👊🏻
Thanks dude! Yeah the back needs to be pushed out a bit lol
Number plate ALF4 4C ?
Save for your house and wedding first..then spacers and lights 😉
We don’t all sound like that Steff 😂
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Spacers lad!
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You can chrome spray the the head lights or just paint them red.
POGEA Racing Stage3 :)
Stef. How does the 4c ride. Is it really stiffly sprung?
Yeah it’s a raw experience and quite stiff but not too bad. Harder if you were to daily it
@@StefABtv thanks for the reply. I thought it might be, going by some of your interior shots in previous vids. Sadly rules it out for me on medical grounds. Never mind. Keep up the great work BTW and look forward to more videos of the 4c.
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Depends what wheels you have on. The 17"/18" give a slightly softer ride without loss of handling. I'm not sure if the racing package option had slightly different shocks.
Gold or Anthracite wheels 🥰
Stef, any chance of a link to the Steering Upgrade. THX.
Alfaworshop website mate. They have it all there
THX
@@StefABtv
www.alfaworkshop.co.uk/
Contact Gale Motorsport on facebook, he makes some mods for 4C, he also races his 4C.
Yes, he's also on 4C forums, really knows his stuff
Just keep making more interesting videos eventually you’ll have enough to generate a few hundred advertising views a day, not bad
Manual swap it. I mean get a Lotus.
Saw one yesterdsy...
Whoops....the one i saw looked so good...films do not show how stylish the little car is
Agree man!
Sod the house. Supercharge it.
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The more i listen to stories about this car the more it seems to come across as an engineers afterthought minus finesse and well..., design logic?
Call them quirks I believe they rushed this car through to complete it before the budget totally exceeded real life user cost expectations.
with money....you could easily make it a lot...worse Stef
How strange, a woman agrees to marry a man who cannot afford a car! 😂 Why don't you save up enough to actually buy the car you want without the shackles of finance?
Firstly if that’s how you think relationships work then I feel sorry for you. Relationships are not built on how much money someone earns. It’s the most ridiculous thing I have heard. If that is the situation you find yourself in then you are in the wrong relationship. Secondly let me worry about my finances.
Sell it and buy a real Lotus ! 😒