Tarquin the Proud: The Last King of the Romans
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You should make a biographics episiode on Lt. Col. Arthur Lyon Fremantle, he was descended from an Illosturous military family and he was a foreign observer or war toirist during the U.S. Civil war and notably he was there at the battle of Gettysburg, thank you and keep up the good work
He should also do a biographic on Giacomo Casanova...
Hi can you do Sir Nicholas George Winton MBE the British banker and humanitarian who established an organisation to rescue children at risk from Nazi Germany in 1939
Can you please make a video about Rios Montt?
Marcus Aurelius once stated:
"It never ceases to amaze me: we all love ourselves more than other people, but care more about their opinions than our own"
Do you have the Latin version of this quote?
Why is this not the highest liked comment? 😳
True!
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"Nunquam me mirari desinit: omnes nos prae aliis amamus, sed de eorum opinionibus magis curamus quam de nostris".
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Romans: We will never be ruled by a king.
Also Romans: Hail the Emperor
The King conquers his own people, the Emperor conquers other people for them.
**Napoleon Bonaparte takes notes.**
Meh, the US has spent the last 80 years or so striving to become an empire, while maintaining a fiction that the US is anti-imperialist and against interfering in other countries.
@@Sorcerers_Apprentice
No. Kings conquered other people for them too. Emperors conquered their people more than kings did.
People tend to forget a 500 year old pledge
Just think; if Remus had killed Romulus, the city would be now known as "Reme."
Look out, the Remans are here.
Remax
Their Navy would be littered with Remen Seamen…
@@jaytrace1006 Something smells fishy here... 🤔
Remanes eunt domus!
"You're far too trusting, Dantooine is too remote of a location to make a demonstration, but don't worry. We'll deal with your rebel friends soon enough"
- wrong Tarquin
That one is actually spelled Tarkin. Lol
lmao
I guess the Romans forget one of the important tenet of history, if not the most cliche:
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
-George Santayana
Well...to be fair, Sulla did realize (better late than never) that what he did was very close to dismantling the Republic and bringing back a form of monarchy to Rome and thus not only stepped down from power, but also took some measures (although not very effective) to keep anyone else in the future from doing what he did. And then Caesar, who did go all the way, was smart enough to realize that crowning himself king was a huge "no-no" for the Roman people. Optics really were the most important thing in that time... Augustus, in turn, was also similarly "humble" and called himself "Princeps". Sure, he wasn't really fooling anyone, as it was clear to everybody that he was an absolute monarch, but by this point, after so many bloody and destructive civil wars...no one really cared all that much. I guess stability, prosperity and...NOT dying are a tad more important than a 500 year old oath. But since we today still know about OG Brutus and his uprising against Tarquin, I'd say it wasn't really forgotten...especially given it was an event from a period that is notoriously devoid of historical sources.
@@madsgrams2069
That uprising against Tarquin was most likely just a coup. The people of Rome had probably nothing to do with it. The Tarquins had control over the Senate and the descendants of the Paters (the first senators), the people that most likely killed Romulus, didn't like that. In other words they did actually forget what happened. If you don't have resources, mythology is not a replacement.
The evidence for anything in here is rather vague though, the earliest written source we have is 500 years after what happened and the entire story could just been made up. Likelier is that a few real things like names and maybe a few major events are real but the rest is just made up.
Far likelier is that once a Tarquin or another unknown king died the senate decided to stay in power instead of voting for a new king in a coup.
Besides the fact that 300 years had gone buy since the archive burnt down before anything was written down the timeline here seems rather suspicious. Tarquin the elders 40 year reign after he as a full adult came to Rome with his family and that another king was in power for at least a few years before Tarquin himself became the king should mean he would have been an old man when he came to power and yet he seems to have been in charge for a pretty long time and spent years after that trying to get his crown back. That is a typical sign of a messed up timeline or a made up story.
I don't doubt Rome initially had kings and it is plausible their last kings name was Tarquin (things like that tend to stuck in oral traditions) but anything more then that is very suspicious and need either archaeological relating finds or that some older text from maybe a visiting people get translated or found.
So the Romans certainly forgot but we don't even know what they forgot. For all we know the Roman kings might have been good rulers and the later hate for them was due to a smear campaign from the senate. While that might sound unlikely we have several good examples of British royal houses doing that, the Normans spent a lot of time to try to make the earlier angle Saxons look bad and the Tudor's even paid Shakespeare to make plays of how bad the Lancastrians were.
Is it likely some of the Roman kings were tyrants or bad rulers? Sure, very likely but not certain.
You do realize they existed years before this quote? 🤦
1:05 - Chapter 1 - The roman kingdom is born
4:10 - Chapter 2 - Early years
8:10 - Mid roll ads
9:35 - Chapter 3 - Rise to power
13:05 - Chapter 4 - The reign of tarquin
15:25 - Chapter 5 - The fall of tarquin
- Chapter 6 -
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@@christians8885 hol' up a minute
This guy was such a terrible king that thousands of people were killed in the upcoming centuries under the accusations of wanting a crown for themselves because Romans had such a bad monarchic experience with him
It had been well over 400 years, but he still shaped Roman politics: he was the reason Sulla relinquished what was basically absolute power, why Caesar never agreed to being crowned as "king of Rome" (even though, for all intents and purposes, he was) and why Augustus called himself "Princeps", in an act of fake humility that wasn't really fooling anyone, but was still necessary.
Or the powerful families realised that the only way to get the highest promotion in a Monarchy is to off them. They then spread the story about how awful Tarquin to justify treason. They then linked Kinging to being murderous looney.
@@rnp497 Well, given how ridiculously easy it was for them to raise support from...basically the entire population of the city against him and how afterwards the title of "king" was basically the biggest tabu in Roman civilization, even more than 400 years later...I think it's pretty safe to say that "Tarki-tark superstar" wasn't a great king...to say the least.
@@madsgrams2069rnp is just saying that, history is written by the winners, in this case the Senate. So The senate got the last word on justification for banishing Tarquin.
This most likely didn't happen
Even in legends, he wasn't worse than many emperors
The kingdom of Rome elected its kings as opposed to inheriting the throne…
So George Lucas WASN’T completely off his rocker with his structuring of the Naboo government.
Really, you'd be surprised at how many elected monarchies existed in the ancient world and into the early middle ages, and even past that (see: Poland). The idea of a king with a god-anointed bloodline and divine right to rule seems a surprisingly recent development, when you consider how long monarchy as a concept has existed...
@@Replicaate The kings of europe did not become almighty before the adotion of gunpowder weapons and canons which made the castles of the nobility obsolete. It is hard to curtail the power of the king when he can storm your home with less than a hundred mercinaries with guns instead of enduring the long seiges of the pre modern era.
Good point.
Yes Lucas used various sources to come up with the story for Star Wars. If you look closely at Naboo it kind of resembles Byzantium.
Sparta was also ruled by non hereditary kings for most of it's existence
The unsurprising irony:his unscrupulous ambition was his downfall and more so since it happened while he was exercising said ambition. More ironic then that Rome would eventually revert to a more blatant form of Empire that Tarquin would've certainly been in awe at(and possibly try to take over himself).
Another great enjoyable (because of the the host) and interesting video thanks to all who helped in the making of this video keep up the good work old chap.
Thank you for the informing videos I’ve been binge watching them for a days now and I’ve learned so much
Thanks for all your work, quality content
"the Cloaca Maxima"
Wait a minute. Are you telling me that one of the oldest known sewers was basically called the 'Giant A**hole'?
More like the other way around, modern usage of the word is taken from the ancient. I believe that a cloaca in roman times was simply the word for sewer.
Yup
That's kinda awesome!
These videos are superbus!! Keep it going Simon!
Mike Duncan's podcast, "The history of Rome" covers this stuff in detail. A bit rough around the edges, but good stuff. Simon cannot and should not be stopped!
Job well done as usual! First time I ever watched a video about the early kingdom of Rome and I couldn't have been more pleased with this one. Great job!
Simon, you should do a spin off channel for Biographic Shorts, kinda like Sideprojects. Not every person needs a 25 minute documentary, it would be cool to see 3-5 minute shorts about important people in history that only did one or two things. My first idea is Col John P Stapp MD, the doctor that strapped himself to a rocket sled to test ejection equipment and forced the auto industry to install seat belts commercially.
That’s an interesting idea actually!
The Siege of Rome features in one of my favorite poems, “Horatius At The Bridge” by Thomas Babington Macaulay
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Nice topic. How about one on Lepidus?
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So glad to see you picked up this story...
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Good video 👍
Diadorus Siculus wrote a good one describing Egyptian gold refinery.
Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant!
Do a episode on Escofier Simon. The man who started modern kitchen brigades. Love all your channels to man, keep it up 🤘
Love all your channels! Would you please do a pan episode on the architect Philip Johnson. He had lived an amazing life working all over the world.
Thank you!!
That was a good one.
Been to Rome, awesome place, rather awesome history to...
However, I had heard of the kings of Rome.
They are always eclipsed by the later stuff though.
So really good to hear that it was a despot that caused Kings to be shunned.
Cheers
Great vid as always
I love when Simon's beard gets so bodacious that seeing 395 bc underneath looks like its birthday.
When you’re still ruled by kings after Tarquin the Proud and call yourself a Republic
They were Kings only by name. Senate had more power and they were not even hereditary at first but the next king was chosen by senate until this last one who was the only natural heir of his predecessor. Rome kingdom did not had much history with hereditary and absolute power kings, senators were very powerfull and greedy back than. Superbus went over their head, thats why they needed to get rid of him and made some meassurements so their power would never be limited. The whole story about him being tyrant might be a propaganda to support the rule of senatorial class and the legitimity of republic.
Whereas now you really think we live in a democracy 😉
My argument for why Republic type realms in CK3 SHOULD be playable.
The Romans liked their illusions as do we Americans. We like to think votes matter until 4am comes. Then we wake up the next morning and state we are free. Same deal
Location is the only thing that changes
Somehow, Tarquin seems to be a good name for a tyrant.....
You may admire when ready
Sol tarquin
Thank you, Simon! I know nothing of this period, save for the first, with just a dash of the last!
Could you please do a video on Artemisia I of Caria?
Hi guys! Would love to see other argentinians biographics. Juan Manuel de Rosas and Jose de San Martin (liberator of Argentina, Chile and Peru) are two of the most interesting guys in south america's history. Just a suggestion.
You should do a video on Spiro Agnew
I can't decide on if Biographics, and all of the other channels Simon hosts, or MrBallen are the more addicting channel.
Man that was a Rollercoaster from start to finish.
I am here watching Biographics: Classic ls. I don't have it in me to continue beyond Simon.
Hi Simon, writing to you from Australia and was wondering if you would consider doing a biographic video about Alexander Solzhenitsyn? He led quite a life and I think he would be great for it.
Thanks mate
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You should make a biographics episiode on Lt. Col. Arthur Lyon Fremantle, he was descended from an Illusturous military family and he was a foreign observer or war toirist during the U.S. Civil war and notably he was there at the battle of Gettysburg, thank you and keep up the good work
Anyone else under the opinion that Biographics read The Trials of Apollo and decided to make this
Yes. That's what I thought.
Hi pls do you make video about Emperor Sigismund of Luxembourg ?
Can you make one about phyrne
Im learning about this in 4th grade right now! I must say it is very intesting 😮
*Hey! Can you do a video on Henry David Thoreau, Ralph Waldo Emerson, and the Transcendentalist Movement?*
when are you doing Caracalla :(
Hey Simon! Any chance you'd do one on Yasuke, the African Slave who became a Samurai in 16th century Japan?
This is entirely off topic, and I apologize if inappropriate, but I started with TIFO when Simon had no beard a few years back. The bread is now lush and full. Both Simon AND his bears have grown.
I like this one. Next do one on the government who took over after The last king. Or maybe do one on the first king of Rome.
Please do one for Joseph Smith, the founder of LDS church/ Mormon denomination. A big fan of ur videos and content. Thank you for doing this.
You should do one about Manuel Noriega
Plutarch in his Parallel Lives talks about the Roman Kingdom as well! (More Publius Valerius Poplicola, Numa, and Romulus! But still!)
I feel there is some Shakespeare in here somewhere. I think I saw a play about some of this.
you really got that level 100 beard going my guy
Can you do Abbott and Costello ?
PLEASE do John Demjanjuk!!!! Amazing story!
Hey Jeff, if you like history please consider checking out my timeline of the 150+ most important people in history :)
To sum up the story: Tarky-Tark Super-Bus was a total knob. Thanks Blue.
Could you do a video on Ned Kelly
Great video as always. It's weird to hear Sextus Tarquinius' feelings toward Lucius described as "love" given that he threatened her with death if she didn't give into him.
Obsessive love or manipulation maybe
Agreed. Similarly, Amnon is said to have "loved" Tamar (LXX 2 Samuel 13:1), whom he later raped. Seems that "lusted for" might be a better translation. Aquinas defined love as willing the good of the other as other. Clearly, that use of the term is inapplicable in these cases.
Do a video on Eva Kor, one of the surviving Auschwitz twins and survivor of the angel of death… I had the honer to hear her story in person when I was younger and would love if this channel did a video for her
Can you do a video about Portuguese discoveries?
if you like history please consider checking out my timeline of the 150+ most important people in history :)
Here are some ideas for more episodes:
- Sak's from Saks Fifth Ave
- Dave and Wendy from Wendys
- JC Penney
- Nieman Marcus
- Leonard Nimoy
- William Shatner / James T. Kirk
- J.P. Morgan
- The Rothschild family
- The Addams family
- The Astors,... who built Astor Place and the Waldorf Astoria.
Can you do Juan Sequin?
Could you do one massive episode on the kingdom of Rome+ 1 Massive roman Republic one
maybe 2 or 3 Massive ones on the roman empire and 1 Massive one on the byzantine empire.
Please post videos about
-Thales of Miletus
-Parmenides
-Democritus
-Heraclitus
-Epictetus
-Epicurus
I'm waiting for...thank you
Can you make a biographic on Rosa Luxemburg?
I really hope you'll look up Heinz Heydrich someday. He was more like the Oskar Schindler from the movie than the real life one.
Hey Jackson, if you like history please watch my timeline of the 150+ most important people in history :) Thanks
I’ve always been interested in the Roman Kingdom; it’s a shame that there isn’t all that much concrete information about that particular period.
hm? no, there is a lot of concret info about Rome . Everywhere.
@@osvaldomedina173 No offense, but I was specifically talking about it’s time as a Kingdom(including it’s beginning).
@@Alec11_43 livy s first 20 books provide detailed description on it
Thanks.
Please Simon, do a video on Sir Thomas Cochrane. Possibly one of the most remarkable persons in history
We really need a biographics episode on cormac McCarthy. We really dont know much about him. We really need to. He’s getting so old and he’s one of the greatest authors of all time.
Ideas possible future subjects:
B.B. King
King James I
Herman Melville
George Reeves
and James Naismith
Notification squad
Squaaad
You know it 😂
For Star Wars fans - the general Grand Moff Tarkin's name was borrowed by George Lucas from this King. He studied history and mythology in College and thought this name as a perfect arrogant ruler. One question always puzzled me, why the romans where able to dispose of there kings but not the bad emperors?
Suggestion: maybe do some prominent musicians for some videos? For example, ozzy osborne, sir elton john, etc
Can you do the feral child Victor of Aveyron?
Suggestion for a video on Victoria Woodhull, the first woman who candidated for the office of the U. S. president (in 1872!).
Can you do a video on Vince McMahon (WWE)?
Noti Gang
Been enjoying your videos for years now! One suggestion I have is Ed Wood the “worst director of all time”. An extremely interesting man
Make video about Ataturk. Please😃
“ Marcus Junius Brutus was not as successful as his ancestor” I mean…Caesar didn’t survive the assassination so I would consider that successful.
At least there were people that tried to write down their history and cared about their history. ❤
Imagine 500 years from now and archaeologists dig through all the facebook and twitter posts.. "what the hell was going on back then? none of this makes any sense"
Here are some suggestions for another video - all interesting people
April Ellison/William Ellison Jr. (1790-1861) - a freed slave from South Carolina who became a successful slaveowner and planter himself before the civil war.
Anthony Johnson (1600-1670) - a former indentured servant who became one of the first African American property owners in America and a successful tobacco farmer.
Lord Mountbatten (1900-1979) - Prince Philip’s uncle and Queen Elizabeth’s second cousin once removed who was assassinated by the IRA
Yukio Mishima (1925-1970) - Japanese poet, author, playwright, actor and nationalist who committed seppuku after a failed attempt to overthrow Japan’s 1947 constitution.
Robert Walpole (1676-1745) - British politician who was the first prime minister of Great Britain from 1721 until 1742 under King George I and King George II.
Eamon DeValera (1882-1975) - prominent political leader in 20th century Ireland who, after the Irish war of independence from 1919 to 1921, was in the public eye for over forty years from 1922 until his death were he served as head of government (Taoiseach/prime minister) and head of state (president). He was nearly executed in the Easter Rising in 1916 and was key in putting into place the new constitution on 1937. A very prominent Irish figure and one of the most important in Irish history.
George Eastman (1854-1932) - American entrepreneur who founded the Eastman Kodak company. He was a pioneer of photography and a major philanthropist. He commit suicide at the age of 77 because of chronic pain from health problems.
Emile Zola (1840-1902) - French novelist and journalist who is an early practitioner in the literary genre, naturalism. He was involved in the Dreyfus affair, a political scandal in France. He died in 1902 at the age of 62 from accidental carbon monoxide poisoning.
ryoichi sasakawa (1899-1995) - Japanese businessman, politician, sports administrator, philanthropist and was criminal who helped Norman Borlaug with his Green Revolution.
Seamus Heaney (1939-2013) - Irish poet, playwright and translator who won the 1995 Nobel prize for literature and wrote a poem about The Tollund Man comparing his cause of death to The Troubles in Northern Ireland.
W.B. Yeats (1865-1939) - Irish poet, dramatist and writer with an interest in the occult who helped found the Abbey Theatre and was a senator for the Irish Free State. He is one of the most important historical figures in Irish history.
Prince Phillip, The Duke of Edinburgh (1921-2021) - husband and consort to Queen Elizabeth who served in the navy as a young man, serving in the Second World War. He died recently so it would be a good choice.
Jordan Belfort (born 1962) - former stockbroker, author, motivational speaker and convicted felon who committed fraud via stock market manipulation. His book was the inspiration behind the film The Wolf of Wall Street starring Leonardo DiCaprio in 2013.
Andrew Cunanan (1969-1997) - spree killer responsible for five murders before his suicide via gunshot. His victims include Gianna Versace and Lee Miglin.
Lee Miglin (1924-1997) - American business tycoon, real estate developer and philanthropist who was spree killer, Andrew Cunanan’s third murder victim.
“The Count of Saint Germain” (1691 or 1712 -died 1784) - European Adventurer who achieved prominence in high society in the 1700’s. His real name is unknown while his background is obscure. He claimed to be the son of Prince Francis II Rakoczi of Transylvania. He was arrested for suspicion of espionage during the Jacobite rebellion but was released without charge.
Julia d’Aunigny (1670 or 1673 -died 1707) - 17th century French opera singer who was known for her flamboyant lifestyle. Her father was a secretary to the master of the horse to King Louis XIV. She was a keen sword fighter, cross-dressed and tried to run away with a female lover after killing a man in a duel. She died at the age of 33.
Past American presidents, British prime ministers, monarchs and Roman emperors would be good as well.
Biographics suggestion: Stuart Hood; WWII British Intelligence officer that fought alongside Italian partisans against Mussolini's fascists
Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.
SUPERBUS was really something, I mean his as well. Imagine running over your father with a chariot
SIMON!!! DO A BIOGRAPHIC FOR GIACOMO CASANOVA!!!
Would you be able to do a bio on Burke and Wills 2 very famous Aussie explorers who walked from southern Victoria to gulf of carpentera and most of the way back before nearly all the party dies bar one who was found years later living with aborigines
Please do GM Bobby Fischer .
Publicola. History was so close to naming some guy Pepsicola.
Now all i can do is wonder what could have been in those other 6 books sibyl burned
I want to see one on the Donner Party!!!!