Channel Lock a fallen HERO?
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Once Channellock is gone, we're all going to be upset, like all the other American tool companies that were either liquidated or completely sold out. I'm pulling for them as a company. They have a lot of competition with everyone buying German-made Knipex. Team Channellock! Team Made-in-the-USA! \O/
I agree but that doesn't mean they can't step up there game
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Just to put some sanity in this subject, not to hurt feelings. If Channelock goes out of business, it is because of poor quality products. That is on them. If professionals wonât use them because there are better choices they will be gone. Tools like these that hurt your hands and break are not what the pro is looking for. They can pinch your hands and are not ergonomic. The designs are not great also. We are the same people that buy $300 boots. We are not afraid to spend good money on great work gear and tools. It is on Channellock to be competitive with the other brands. I would buy Channellock over Knipex or Irwin if it was as good. I am just giving pro side of this. I canât tell you how many times I have had this conversation with other techs! Whoever is controlling this company now is ruining it, at least for the pro side of it.
I'm on team Utica. Just got some NOS duckbill pliers from DHL. Cause Unknighted Farcel sucks too.
@@dougtilaran3496 The old Utica, I hear are good. I never had a chance to use or own a pair. Does Unknighted Farcel translate to United Parcel?
Don't fault Channellock for you using the wrong tool!!!!!!!!!!!! The 410 model is the one designed for gripping smooth surfaces.
The 415 is a smooth jaw pliers, The 410 has teeth. It is called Parrot jaws or nut buster. It can be used on pipe or hex nuts and bolts.
@@tonyg7553 Fuller Japan pliers make me bust a nut.
Well, in order of what you reviewed
1) have the needle nose, love them. The teeth on mine have held up fine. Daily use in industrial setting.
2) Have those pliers too. Kinda suck.
3) Had one pair of the V jaw pliers. Dont like them. I find the Straight jaws work great.
4) Dont have the Taiwan screwdrivers, do have a set of the made in USA with acetate handles. Work great.
Yea, ive mentioned in a few videos their quality has dropped. But its either produce more, faster which allows quality to suffer or raise the price. At least thats my theory. Check out the yellow handle tsunoda pliers. They remind me of what channellock use to be
Yeah they went down hill đ
That model needle nose is supposed to be open. Kinda like some models of their linesman pliers
Still got my classic old ones from when I was a young maintenance man đ
I have the channellock needle nose and they work well for me. I have snapped the tip off a channellock branded torx screwdriver . I've never had the wiha flag style break like that. And I was just using it like a screwdriver with hand Force
Simple, I now use knipex except for the 410s. I gave all my chanellock away and have no regrets whatsoever even though knipex is much more expensive. I have a few klein's for wire stripping but that's pretty much it. Knipex for me know a days and hopefully, at their price, until my retirement.
I like regular channellock. The originals you know. I wanted to try those griplocks, after seeing this I just went and took them out of my Amazon cart. Thanks man
No problem more video to come!
Itâs like with anything else. You have to pick two out of the three when buying anything nowadays. It can be cheap, fast, or good. You can usually only have two out of the three.
Good review đđ
I pretty much agree with all the things you showed. Although I will say their adjustable wrenches are NICE, USA screwdrivers are good, haven't tried the new ones yet I have the acetate handled ones.
The nut buster pliers are the best they ever made.
Agree still would like to see them and all usa tools get there quality control game back up. Love the sk tools stickers though
That's some good points
Iâve had some Channellock that felt like Klein/Knipex out of the package, then Iâve had some that felt like some cheap harbor freight garbage, Iâll continue to purchase them because itâs what I used growing up, I own a number of plier brands from Snap on, Southwire, Ideal, Knipex, Klein, Craftsman USA, S.K and etc. I still end up using my Channellock. Also Iâve called about some bad tools I picked up and their customer service was fantastic and made everything right
Look forward to your vids brother.đ
Iâve never had problems with the needle noes pliers I donât have that many channellock tools
My knipex looks exactly like this after 2 uses.
I'm in hvac and bought the channelock 6 in 1. I was a fanboy for channellock. After a couple of weeks, the 5/16 nut driver stripped out. I have a standard pair of new channellock pliers and it gets stuck trying to get it in one of the channels. Disappointed in their recent quality control. Even with the standards?!
The only Channellocks I use these days are the wire stripper/crimper. I find Kleins aren't any better anymore either.
like all mass produced tools you'll have hit or misses and quality will vary I have some snap on needle nose cutting and nut gripping pliers that wouldnt cut a 16ga wire unless you had it just right... Never had a pair of cutters i couldnt lay wire againt the cutters joint and it not cut the wire and those were $57 from their website!
I was recently in the market for a new set of pliers. I needed a, lineman, needle nose, adjustable and some diagonal cutters. I weighed for a long time between Channellock and Knipex. Both have a very well know and long running line for all their tools. I read lots of reviews on both and when it came down to it I went with Knipex for all the tools except one. I already had a 12" adjust Channellock so I didn't bother to buy another pair of cobra pliers. It seems Channellock as a brand just no longer carries the same value it once did. I grew up in a household where my father's toolbox was full of blue pliers and I genuinely wanted to follow suit but after my many years of experience with them and how they performed compared to my past few years with my new Knipex lineup, Channellock just did not compare for my needs. But this is just my opinion, I could just as well be broken down on the side of the road with a set of Kleins, Channellock, Knipex, or some offbrand junk from home depot, but I rather be holding the Knipex knowing the standard of quality and dependability I can trust from those Germans.
Knipex are good across the aboard and readily available (usa). Just avoid their needle nose.
I used to be Channellock fan until I started using Knipex pliers. Almost all the pliers knipex make are great quality and they definitely care about the product they're selling. It's the same reason I like to buy Milwaukees power tools and SnapOns hand tools.
âŠwe buy channelock because americaâŠ.
Check out Wilde pliers. Similar to channellock, but better grip. And made in the USA!
Look at the channellock 420 they will work much better or the 426. I agree those other offset ones blow. Only good for light duty plastic pipe
I started buying them because Made in USA. But, apparently we share the same sentiments. I guess I need to look at Klein. Some of my Quinn are better.
I use 440 and 442. No complaints.
I like a few of their tools but prefer others when it comes to adjustment pliers.
I have had no problem with my channellocks brand of pliers I used them for years and still great for what they are. maybe you had bad luck with them. Mine are still going strong all styles and versions in the channellocks brand and used the freaking crap out of them . They are to me not junk they are good stuff.
Did you drink anything before shooting that video?
I thought it would be obvious lol
I love those crappy pliers for pipe fittings running EMT and shit
I recently bought a 4.5â slip joint pliers and they are junk right out of the box! The jaws donât line up, theyâre super sloppy, and they jaws are different sizes. Will not buy anything of their again
Yeah I have bought some in a similar condition
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I've never seen anyone else complain about anything channellock except for the griplocks. For cheaper tools they are amazing and usually have a great warranty. Maybe study up on how to use the right tool for the right job.
Sorry I've used better tools and can be honest and say they can do better? Even at there price point.
I started collecting them to build a set and quickly stopped due to obvious quality issues. They are NOT cheap either. Now they are headed to the âhomeâ box and building knipex set.
Watch a tour of the Channellock pliers manufacturing operation from as recent as this year and then watch a tour of the Gedore, Knipex or Snap-On pliers manufacturing operations from thirty years ago. Draw your own conclusions.
Dang ill do that
@@toolsandtrash6911 To be fair, Snap-On has a super modern pliers plant, and I have yet to see receive a pair of pliers from them without obvious manufacturer defects.
I will say that my normal straight jaw channel locks are great but they are 10 years old probably. Why do they always try to over engineer things?
I agree completely. Knipex alligator pliers beat Chanel lock in gripping whatever hands down. Channel lock seems to be resting on their laurels and a Johnny come lately on newer designs (copying knipex poorly).
Please check out Wilde Tools USA made!!! 33% more steel!!!
I have the older style channel lock pliers they are newly manufactured, so far so good. I stay away from newer design products that try to copy German designs. There is a company out there called Knipex if I need a specialty pair of pliers. I agree, Channellock sucks for specialty pliers. Channellock should have stuck with their older designs. I also have some of their wrenches, if you like Carlyle wrenches you'll like channel lock brand wrenches. The wrenches are Taiwanese made, have the same anti-slip features as the Carlyle. I believe Channellock wrenches come from the same manufacturer as Carlyle. I can't tell the difference. I bought Channellock larger sized wrenches because I am a new guy as a maintenance tech, I can't afford larger jumbo sized Snap-On or Wright wrenches. I couldn't find larger Carlyle wrenches. I also have their Taiwanese made sockets in my tool bag. They are not Proto,Wright, Sk or Snap-on. But they work and do the job. They are equivalent to Gearwrench, Sears Craftsman USA before craftsman started manufacturing tools in China.
Wilde pliers made in usa they are nice
Donât use any of that junk side of channellock but I do swear by there side cutters have about 5 of them wire Stripperâs and wire crimpers, and the old schools original channellock
Them are nice
The needle nose are as good as any⊠GL-10 always sucked⊠and the 422, made for bolts⊠if your grabbing a pipe, use 420.
By pipe, i mean, round things.
Certain tools of theirs are great, they pay for themselves are a few jobs but other tools are just pitiful . The Irwin Groovelock has a better jaw design for grip then the Grip Lock jaws on the Channellock . Some tools are good, others arent
Luv my 10" Knipex Alligator Pliers'
I pocket carry them Daily at Work đȘ
They are Lighter, Grip Better an Better Quality than Channel Lock
Brand.
Great video man! I agree that the quality has gone down a bit and some of the innovation isnât needed by them. They are a homeowner type brand I guess is what it comes down to. Surprisingly I have a pair of there crescent wrenches made in Spain which are fantastic and I also have those Chinese screwdrivers you got there and they have really impressed me. I like that they have that striking cap also. Great video.
Made in USA doesn't mean it's good, same with Cars!
He's misusing the tools. The 410 is designed for what he was trying to do.
I donât like how every pair of Channelocks that I bought in 2021 has hardened clear glue from manufacturing all over it.
Its suppose to work as a anti rust coating I think
@@toolsandtrash6911 I think your right. But it leaves bubbles everywhere. Not the cleanest look. Iâve seen it on Kleins too.
Oh boohoo, your tools have marks on them đ€Ł
@@afridgetoofar1818 Facts are the facts, tough guy.
@@paedahe4975 You're the type of guy who cries like a girl when he gets scratch on his truck.
Go & return them if they break.
Yo TnT! Just another company ridin their name to the fullest, while putting out junk.
I was considering a change from Channellocks, so I took a look at the Knipex factory on-line tour. Looked good until the final third of their show. Their narrative changed from about tool quality to them congratulating themselves for their European social agenda application. For me it's about tool quality and not about paying for America's enemies' lifestyle. (So, I'm staying with Channellock blue.)
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âAmericaâs enemiesâ lifestyleâ what does that even mean?
Knipex is the King of Pliers'
Ok here's my 2 cents. I know I've left some trollish hateful comments whe you've blasted channellocks in some of your last vids but they were all good natured I assure you lol. I own a lot of grips(how we call tongue in groove pliers in NZ), German made stuff and American channellocks. I have to disagree with you completely about the GL10s being trash. For me in a lot of situations they are the only set of grips I can do a particular task with especially when there isn't much space and it's a fiddly as fuck job. They generally arent the first set of grips i reach for in most cases, but it's a damn good tool that grips hard if you set it right and does some things better than other pliers, even my German made stuff. I can imagine for industrial stuff that you do it wouldn't be fantastic but in plumbing it serves me well.
Won't buy them over here the main advantage of channel lock is price have had them before but by the time I pay shipping and duty they be the same price as a knipex and they're not going to be better!
This video is dead on right. I am a HVAC controls technician. I can tell you none of the professional supply houses in my area carry Channellock tools. Some of their stuff is OK but there are better choices. I have pinched my hands so many time with these pliers. The Irwin Groovelock are much better pliers that won't pinch your hands.
CL make snapons pliyers
Snap-On makes Snap-On pliers. Although the Blue Point stuff is surely outsourced from all sorts (Wilde, Weicon, maybe Channelock).
I don't think everything that channellock makes is junk they're not perfect like Knipx pliers but I don't see too much anything wrong with them you are wrong about the wrenches and the ratchets and sockets they are made in Taiwan Taiwan makes very very good tools but with China it's hit-and-miss sometimes I make somewhat good quality tools but other times it's just bad even the best tools that China make isn't all that good it's okay and it works it's not junk but it's not the best but it will get you by and it does work for some people not everybody I will agree some of the Chinese tools is junk garbage trashthose China wok Chinese made screwdrivers are pretty decent for what they arewe're definitely not the best screwdrivers on the market but they're definitely not the worst I wouldn't say they're complete garbage or trash but they're decent I really like that China made channellock screwdrivers I like the way the handle is made and like the rubber grips the design is awesome and I also like that the steel blade of the shaft goes clear through the and has a striking cap on the end so if you need to you can lightly tap it on the back in with a hammer which is great sometimes you need that striking cab to get some screws loose and I will admit there are some companies like snap-on Napa Carlyle and there are a few other brands that make better pliers like slip joint pliers that are way better than but some channellock slip joint pliers work okaybut so are you alright some of their channel lock pliers or complete trash garbage and junk and don't work very well but it's no different than any other company like Proto snap-on Mac or Cornwellnot every hand tool or every single tool that those companies make or great tools not every single one of them are wealth caring home some of those high quality tool brands junk trash garbage tools that are completelythat's why if you look at someone's toolbox they don't just have a hole tool box full of channellock or snap-on or matco tools they have some snap-on some Proto some Cornwell some Stanley some huskythey usually have a mixture of different brands of tools in their tool boxes because not every to a company makes the right or best tool for the job and you buy what you like at the right price there are some tool companies that make a better tool than snap-onsome of the tools that portal makes or very good and very high quality and some of the tools that proton makes are not very good and you could buy a Snap-On tool that's much better or sometimes you can buy a Cornwell tool that's much better than a Snap-On but then again sometimes you can buy aMac Tool that you like the looks of or the quality of or their color and the price and looks much better but then again sometimes you can buy a pretty decent fairley high quality cheap tool not the lowest quality of to on the market but certainly not the best to on the market either and sometimes they will last you as long as a expensive tool and sometimes they work a lot better and look a lot better and some of those medium-priced tools have a lifetime warranty my point is you don't have to buy everything channellock you don't have to buy everything snap-on you don't have to buy cheap tools you don't have to buy medium price but you can buy a variety of different tools at different qualityand sometimes they will work extremely well sometimes they'll work better than buying all from one company because not every company can make ever pool on the market the besteven know my pain is the king of tools and they make the best tools out there they don't make every two will they make the best tool on the market some of snap-on tools kind of our junk or kind of suck so it doesn't matter what kind of to it is most true companies have their share of problems with their tools all and any tool can break or fall apart cheektowaga last you a long time expensive jewels that are high qualitythat are supposed to last you a lifetime sometimes they can wear out within a few months or part of the yearinexpensive tours can be damaged and tore up and some people think snap-on is complete garbage because because they didn't think the quality was made very well for the price they pay for it all depends on how you use it and how you treat it and how you abused it familia para channel locks might not get damaged or tore up or may last me for the rest of my life and if you bought the same pair that might break band snapped off not last you very longplay my only last you a couple of weeks or maybe a month before they're totally screwed up order teeth are flattened outand the tools no longer work while mine still looks like brand new and still works and we both use them the same amount of time and we both use them just as much it just depends on how a person uses themone person might receive a bunch of damage on their channellock tools lost someone else uses it might not see any kind of damage on their channellock tools so it just depends on the person using it and how they are and whether they're rough with it and don't care or whether they're easy worth it whichever the case or whether it's poor manufacturing from poor quality soft metal it could be a combination of all of the above your tool friend Brian Williams Guthrie Oklahoma take care
The 430X are excellent... drawer pulls. CL still has some quality pliers made today, but they do have some gimmicky crap also. Sad to say but it reminds me of sears craftsman in the mid 2000âs. Trying to cut corners here and there to have people buy shit with their name in it. For all intensive purposes though, there are a lot of companies out there that start out strong, develop quality shit, get huge and make big money, only to sell out their name in order to make Wall Street happy. There are very few companies that havenât gone full stolen valor, fat, lazy, ginger troll just yet, but odds are theyâll be having kids with their cousin before the decade is over. It just kinda seems to be the path of least resistance. Take Matco for instance...I know, I know, Matco sucks and only losers buy Matco, and then shoot videos on it saying how great it is, or even worse just show the crap on the truck and never really buy anything, but matco used to be kinda fun, rebellious and cool (in a Netflix and chill with a Goth girl whose choker is stretched out and loose) kinda way. They used to contract with a lot more USA made hardline tool manufacturers AND be the cheap but still quality tool truck option in the shop. Now theyâre basically Amazon on wheels with Snappy prices. Iâm not a tool snob. Iâve bought GearWrench and Sunex before... but like hell Iâm going to pay extra for it because it says Matco on the side of it now. Same with Channellock, but to be fair, CL hasnât raised the price of their tools very much. Unless you count she rebranded CL the tool trucks carry, like those 410s. Which by the way, are the best pliers ever... Long story short. Most businesses are short lived. In todayâs times youâre lucky to have a business operate for more than one generation. Honestly, most kids that inherit businesses donât have the same passion as their parent did. They just want to make more money than their parents because thatâs how they judge success. Sad times were living in when profit outweighs pride.
That was a mouth full but I couldn't have said that any better. I grew up using 410s so they will always have a place near me and shit i have them tattooed on my arm if anyone has any doubts
heck yes knocks
Feel the same. Fucking channel licks a smaller pair broke in half at the riveted joint
The only decent ChannelLocks that I own are the adjustable wrenches. They are actually made in Spain by Irega and are the best I've ever used. For everything else, I stick with Kinipex. Gave all my blue handled crap to my mother-in-law.
Lol dude I got some that you might like that haven't been released I got a video coming out soon
Knipex isn't magic, either. Their small Electronics line is JUNK. Misaligned jaws, burrs on cutting edges, on and on.
For sure
The channel lock grip locks are junk imo.. they are only good for tightening nuts and bolts.. I bought 2 pairs of the gl 10s and I wish I never bought them.. and I also bought a pair of channel lock diagonal cutters and they don't cut worth a damn..
I also bought 2 pairs of the 422 v jaw and they are trash too.. they are only good for using when working with 1/2, 3/4,1in EMT conduit and are using compression couplings.. I'll stick with regular 420,430,440,460s from now on.. and my lineman, diagonal cutters and needle nose are Klein and knipex..
great vid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! channel lock has gotten outdated and poor quality i agee!!!
I have yet to be let down by channellock and I will continue to buy their pliers and cutters, but they definately need to stay in their lane or get off the road.
Do they really wanna be as stupid as Milwaukee who would sell you their own brand of underwear if they could ?
I like the US made Acetate handle Channellock screwdrivers, but won't buy any other of their other overreaching products especially not the imported ones.
My pizza comes from little Cesar's, my hammers from Vaughan & Bushnell, and my ratchets from Wright, and my wrenches GOVT surplus Proamerica / KAL, I'm not buying a socket set from a plier manufacturer.
Especially if they source it from overseas.
Why do so many companies feel the need to compromise themselves in an attempt to be what Craftsman once was without doing it how Sears once did it ?
They offered every kind of tool you could need under one brand and sourced each from various American manufacturers who specialized in each category of tool, and they did it very well before the 1990's.
It's not happening today and companies need to give it up.
Yess. I love my American tools , estwing đ, Martin tools, Klein , Chanel lock, trusty cook , midwest, Iâm very proud, no complaints about it , I had the best tools working in a auto body , đđ. Chanellock is my favorite plier
Milwaukee doesnât have their own branded underwear yet? Those would sell like hot cakes.
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I don't know but they sure put their name on everything under the sun.
I have a collection of Channelock screwdrivers with the acetate handles, and theyâve never let me down. Maybe theyâre not as nice as snap-on, but they are a MUCH better value.
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Pratt-Read definitely did a good job with them.
And the 61A 6 in 1 driver ? 100% American made even the bits, I'm not sure the bits on the Klein are even made here if any of Klein 6-1 drivers are made here at all.
So I understand that the quality is not the very best...but you are buying a quality American made tool. Having said that if you are going to trash talk a tool at the very least know and understand how to use the tool. Who demonstrates the effectiveness of pliers by trying to turn a hardened steel 3/8 socket extension. No wonder your "views" are so low.
Cute story don't be mad about people having different opinions I seem to have hit a nerve đ
Lmao if you guys only knew who made what before you make a video putting down channellock do your home work before making a video
You want good tools go search out the vintage tools everything made today is garbage
In alot of cases that is very true
T&T...You anti-American, Commie talking, whipper snapping, pliers abusing rabble rouser, you! Stop hitting shit with your pliers all the time and you can use any cheapo brand you choose!đ Good, stuff as usual!