Warming Food on Shabbat feat. Rabbi Nissan Antine and Suzette Tanen
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- The following video can help guide you through some of the aspects of preparing your kitchen and warming up food for Shabbat.
The laws of Shabbat are complex, and this video is for educational purposes only. For more detailed applications to your kitchen or for specific halachic questions, please contact a member of the clergy team.
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If we can use crockpots, hot plates, etc on Shabbat, how is that any different than a light bulb coming on in the refrigerator?
Because opening the refrigerator turns on the light bulb. You cannot turn on your crockpot or hot plate on shabbat
yes, but using those other appliances, specifically a crockpot looks like cooking every bit as much as an oven. There’s an inconsistency here as well in that you are taking a very stringent about what “looks like cooking” at the same time ignoring that opening and shutting a refrigerator is a clear violation because it works the same way oven does in terms of reacting to temperature when you open the door. I find it pretty funny that you are concerned about the lightbulb, but not about the refrigerator turning on and off every time you open the door the reason for this is that many of your chumrot regarding heating food developed over time and yet no one wants to give up refrigeration.
Thank you for sharing this.
I think we should allow the Holy Spirit to guide us. If you examine Exodus 35, you'll notice it's all about the Tabernacle. The preparation for the construction of the tabernacle began with a reminder that the Sabbath rest must be observed while building the Tabernacle. The context was simply not to light fires in relation to the upcoming work on the Tabernacle. The Israelites were excited and those who were melting gold, brass etc. were being told not to kindle fires on the Sabbath, but rather to rest.
This law seems to be a temporary one because it was never said to be throughout their generations as elsewhere, where the Sabbath law is given or repeated; it was limited to the construction of the Tabernacle.
Constructing the tabernacle was going to be an enormous project. It would require a tremendous amount of work. There would be sewing, embroidery, carpentry and especially metal work, or blacksmithing. When you read the instructions given to Israel, you'll notice that a lot of gold, silver and bronze was going to have to be melted down and fashioned into various utensils and structures. The rest of chapter 35 is an account of the people who contributed precious metals, gems, hides, cloth, oil, incense and all the other necessary materials for the project (Exodus 35:22).
The statement about lighting fires on the Sabbath did not add to the basic principles of Sabbath observance. It was a reminder of the command to rest from our work on the seventh day in a context specifically related to doing the hard work of building the stuff for the tabernacle.
The kindling of fire in early times involved considerable labour. It was ordinarily affected by rubbing two sticks together.
I don’t think the verse add a regulation stating that people in cold countries are not allowed to heat their homes in the winter or cook and warm up food to eat or light a lamp in the dark on the Sabbath? Are people without electricity going to sit in the dark on the Sabbath, or will they light a lamp or candle? This sounds very extreme, especially if kids are in the house.
I would not kindle a fire on the Sabbath to burn garbage because this is considered work. The focus is not the fire itself, the focus is on work.
If I prepare food from Friday 4:00 pm and keep it until 1:00 pm Saturday for lunch, bacteria will start to form in that food, making it unpalatable to eat, so it must be warmed to kill all that bacteria. Not everyone can afford to use electric stove. Gas stoves are used by 95% of the people in my country. The electricity bills would bankrupt us.
I understand the principle to prepare the food from Friday evening because it would be too much work on the Sabbath. However, warming the food, having cooked it 20 hours before, is a necessity, not work. Just like taking a shower or giving the child a bath on the Sabbath is a necessity. It is not work.
If it was a general command not to kindle fire on the Sabbath, I think it should be viewed as a mere temporary institution, to continue only during the time when the people were miraculously provided for in the wilderness.
It can hardly be thought that this is to be taken in the strictest sense, as an entire prohibition of kindling a fire and the use of it on that day, which is so absolutely useful, and needful in various cases, and where acts of mercy and necessity require it; and on the account of infants and aged persons, who could not manage without it; and in cases of sickness, and various disorders which necessarily require it; and even for the preparation of food, which must be had on that day as on others. God does not provide manna today. The manna was a temporary thing.
Warming the food does not require much effort. You are not collecting sticks to make a fire. You're simply lighting a match or using a lighter. It takes more effort to dish out food for 20 people, but does this take time away from God? When reading the context of Exodus 35, Jesus was thinking about the work involved, not the flame itself.
No. But warming up food on a warmer plugged in before sunset in my humble estimation does not constitute cooking or preparing
My goodness, where is the relationship with God in all this.
Bagels and lox spread, fruit, jerkey etc. seems like the way to go.
I’m really starting to understand the Amish a lot more.
God never made these laws on not having lights, fire or electricity. Only not starting a fire( included cutting/gathering wood and hard labor).
Wrong, He said NO FIRE on Shabbat, but He said do not LIGHT a fire. Since electricity was not invented, there are rules about what is permissible use of electricity. Some use none, and some, like these fine folks, have limited use but certainly use electricity. Exodus 35:3 “You shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the Sabbath day.”
My goodness, expert on God? The world let’s you interpret your own way. Why can’t others have the same consideration? It is all meant to honor God. It is a lot of rules but those not Jewish are not called to follow them.
@@user-xx7pg3vw9k No, he said you should not kindle a fire. Meaning do not build your fire on the Sabbath, already have it going and the wood laid by already before sunset.
@@kristinesharp6286 I agree...Those laws were for the Jews during the building of the tabernacle. The prohibition to light fire on the sabbath was not mentioned in the basic principles of the fourth commandment and neither was it mentioned anywhere else in the bible..
Can't use the light bulbs? Lol. What about using your air conditioning system for cooling and heating?
Thanks for making this! Concerning the use of an oven-is it permissible to use the oven to keep food warm on Friday night if it doesn’t have shabbos mode? My oven does not however the light doesn’t turn on when I open the door. I’ve tried putting it on a high heat and putting food in just before shabbos then turning it off but by the time I get home from shul and start the meal (often 2 hours after shkia) the oven is no longer warm. My hot plate doesn’t always have room for all of the food so I was wondering if I could keep the oven at 180 and just not turn it off.
Interesting with the rules about light bulbs.I thought according to scripture it's forbidden to kindle a fire on Shabbat.Fire is a rapid oxidation of a material in the exothermic chemical process of combustion ,releasing heat,light and various reaction products.Fire is a chemical reaction.
Turning on a light bulb is a physical process.
So how does turning on a light equals to kindle a fire?
How does physics equals chemistry?
I'm so lost
Yes, it is forbidden to kindle a fire on shabbat. But many halachic (Jewish law) authorities understands incandescent light bulbs to be equivalent to fire, so turning on a light bulb is akin to kindling a flame
@@bethsholomcongregationandt3289 thank you very much for explaining!
@@bethsholomcongregationandt3289 What about LEDs since it is a diode and not actually burning anything as with an incandescent or halogen, etc?
What about turning on the TV or starting a vehicle? Is that considered kindling a fire?
Yes
I am dealing with some Jewish crisis stuff and no one is helping. (Hope that you have a good one.)
But you are still using electricity so I'm confused I thought you couldn't use electricity
I think they are cooking it Friday and having it stored there to stay warm throughout the day
what about the Decalogue God gave to Moses on Moriah Mountain? What about its 2nd commandment? "Do not make yourself other Gods and do not worship them" . Anything you put before God is equal to worshipping other gods. So you put traditions and man-made laws before the only living God and you worship them? Yes, this is what you do guys! Did you think about the electricity provider that work on the Sabbath? And di you eventually think that your household is still working electrically by being connected to electrical network even on Sabbath. Then you brake the Moses law because the 4th commandment order NOT to work on Sabbath neither you or anyone belonging to your household. Then don't you know that God made Sabbath for Man and the man for Sabbath! Were is worshiping God in all this? I can only see a tumults of man made traditions that you guys worship which is a sin according to Moses law because you have made your "gods" (traditions) and you are much more concerned about your own-made "gods" (traditions) than really serving God, really being with God and really resting in God on Sabbath.
Anyway, God still wants you to reunion with Him and to rejoice for you - only if you would drop off your own made gods and turn to the real and only living God! May God bless you guys!
I think it is too extreme. The only reason behind allofthis was not to work because that time to make a light , you must to light the candle and put the oil in candle.
People should follow the idea, or the spirit, of the rules not try to
figure out all possible loopholes or circumvent rules. One is not
supposed to keep food warm overnight but eat ready made cold dishes next
day (until the Shabbat is over).
This is not how we interpret the halacha at Beth Sholom.
You're a Karaite, not a Jew.
We have hot food specifically to reject your religion.
@@morehn Karaites are Jews but I’m not one but just reading the Torah.
@@lottnio8207 you're reading the Torah incorrectly, similar to a Karaite.
@@lottnio8207 if you read the Torah, you'll see that the verse says, "you shall not light a fire... on the Sabbath"
It doesn't say you shall not have a lit fire in your house.
I find it interesting that so many experts leave their comments about what is and is not. GOD made the sabbath for man and not Man for the sabbath. So many read and yet do not understand. Others read with understanding, and do not take everything at face value. Not everyone will understand the word of GOD, because they are self absorbed and closeminded. So many strict rules out of fear without true understanding. See when you have such a dogmatic narrowminded view and understanding, you fail to see the larger picture and grasp the full understanding of what is being conveyed. With all the strict ceremony and dog and pony show, you fail to grasp the true meaning. GOD made the sabbath for man. The sabbath is supposed to be a day of fun and spending time with GOD while taking a rest from all the stresses from the other six days, not create stress in preparation or on the day of. Remember the sabbath day and keep it holly. How can you keep it holly if you are walking on egg shells worrying about what to do and not to do? Instead you are not resting in your mind or keeping the sabbath holy. You have taken what the Lord said as keeping the sabbath holly, and made it about yourself, and you most certainly are not resting. Also if some are so set on adhering to strict rules of the old testament, then you must obey all the laws from the old testament especially the book of Leviticus. You can not pick and choose what laws you want to fallow. If you do not then you are a hypocrite.
I believe this is more about rules, do you think in the days that Jesus walked among his people that he inforced these crazy rules, No. I believe that the holy day is remembering that Jesus was crucified on the cross and rose again, we should reflect in that. It should not be about turning lights off or emptying the ice maker. You are not focusing on Jesus.
Read the Bible about when Sabbath is . Don’t go online , read
Obsession with rituals is nôt religion
God said no cooking on the Sabbath. Why is warming food not considered cooking. Isn't warming apart of cooking? Please explain.
Oh wow
New ice? What happens if u use new ice would u go to hell? I'm not trying to be sarcastic I'm just trying to understand...I used to work for a kosher family they had 2 of everything but I don't remember them mentioning ice or anything but I just remember they didn't mix meat and dairy
Mark 7:3-9 KJV
For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders. [4] And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables. [5] Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands? [6] He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. [7] Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. [8] For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. [9] And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
📯 Does anyone see just how they are taking these traditions so far out of context? No fire, meant no burning of wood for cooking, you would have been stoned, for gathering fire wood,. Not picking up a stick, lol. This video is for educational reasons, ya I get it, teaching you to observe traditions of men, instead of keeping the Torah. Shallom Shallom, is in Yeshua Hamashiac. Not a tradition.
Oh my , what a nonsense of twisted God’s intent to rest.
These are not God's laws,but mans!
Other way round.
No actually the Bible specifically says do NOT light a fire on the Sabbath-Exodus 35:3 “You shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the Sabbath day.”
@@user-xx7pg3vw9k yea it says to not light fire but literally FIRE like it’s for the woman in the house to rest because the woman shouldn’t be cooking. If you turn on a light switch your not breaking any rules it’s kinda like showering. On Shabbat morning I wake up early morning and shower to smell clean and look clean because it’s an important day but IM not breaking Shabbat I’m turning on the light and the hot water but I’m not breaking Shabbat. We shouldn’t be religious like Pharisees that think everything is sin. We should just follow the Torah and period not following Talmudic teachings, Midrash teachings or zohar books or any rabbinic book that’s not inspired by the Ruah HaKodesh.
Beth Sholom, can we just disable comments? Lots of jesus lovers coming armed with their anti-Semitic remarks... “jesus did away with Shabbat by his death blah blah blah...”
@@elisinger4172 These are hardly anti-Semitic remarks. Important not to take offense at the beliefs or opinions of others from different backgrounds and religions. Dialogue is a good thing, as is respect. It is a diplomatic way of educating one another.
With all due respect, this is Phariseeism at its finest.
Making hundreds of rules up for the Sabbath is never what God intended. Sabbath is a day of celebration and rest. It is a time to think of our Saviour and of creation. Preparation needs to be made. But it is fanatical to say that the light must not come on in the refrigerator.
You will live such a free life if you accept Christ’s “the Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath” and if you believe that He who is Lord of the Sabbath is also the One who saves you.
Heather Blood dude. Take your jesus elsewhere.
Lol crazy how they reject the corner stone.... They are self handicapped builders staring at the foundations unable to build the house.
@@justinstewart3012 1) I am a Jew and I Believe in Jesus. *Isaiah 53* is very clear! I wonder why most of my Jewish family don't read it? Most Jews who say they don't believe have never read the new testament or Isaiah 53. They also don't know that Jesus was also a Jew.
With all respect to you ma'am, you are throwing words like Pharisee around with no knowledge of what you're talking about. the Christians were the first rebels against the law. Did they not claim the Laws of the Torah were too hard and that is why we need some saint to die for us. Really they were no better than the Communists!
@@chodeshadar18 Well, Yeshua said He came NOT to abolish the Torah but to fulfill it. And anyone who teaches men to abandon Torah will be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But, He also said to learn the INTENT of the law and not to get caught up in man made doctrines that use the Torah to create needless and hypocritical burdens. However, He was even more strict in some ways saying you are already guilty of adultery simply for having lust for a woman that was not your wife. I mean, that was and still is really extreme to most people. Basically, you cannot follow Torah without having the Ruach HaKodesh. We struggle against our own flesh until we are a new creature. (Just like Jacob wrestled with a mystery person and then G-D named him Israel which means: To "Wrestle with G-D", as I am sure you know better than I.
So we can’t microwave food?
There is no fire involved, so I was wondering about that.
There is a way to turn off the microwave light. It is on Tik Tok and probably YT.
U can’t turn on lights? I’m not Jewish but I’ve started recognizing the Sabbath day from Friday to Saturday & I’m trying to do it right. Just looking for guidance
@@vibe2248 Same Here
Only for rich people!
@Shaqeera Alia What do you mean? I don't understand your answer.
@Shaqeera Alia Dear Shaqeera, I don' t speak english. I'm from Switzerland and my language is german, italien, french and roman. You are very special indeed!
So u can't see a lights at all?
They should go full Amish- no electricity
this is ridiculous. not one of us knows anything!!! Being afraid to leave a light on is meaningless. afraid of every move. manmade silly rules.
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holy yowzers there are some heated crumpets in the comment section toeing the line between offensive and antisemetic..
This all seems rather blasphemous to me. It’s like a child being told don’t touch the fire and he can’t resist getting as close as possible. If you use electricity, there is no way to follow these things you’re trying to say is necessary. I thought the sabbath was meant to be a day of rest and praise our Heavenly Father. Starting a fire, chopping and collecting wood, etc… seems like labor. Heating up some soup seems easy.
🕊 Isaiah 53:5 - "But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed." Romans 5:6-10 - "For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life." 🕊
Unbelievable in this dispensation the creator expects ppl to do this madness- NOR MORE TURTLEDOVES, & PIDGEONS NO MORE SACRIFICES you do all this and your heart is still hatred, wicked. clean your heart, body, mind and soul with Yashua...
I don't agree with much of their cultural/religious life style. Burdensome on a good day, oppressive in every way. No way to describe this as anything that includes affiming life. Thanks for The peek inside.
What a foolish talk 😂
This is why Jews make the best lawyers and bankers: when it comes to finding loopholes for rules, they are the fucking masters! 😂
Oh my , what a nonsense of twisted God’s intent to rest.