Molding a Microlens Array

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  • čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
  • Microlenses are tiny optical devices used to focus light onto cameras and fiber optics. While debugging a different project, I stumbled on a technique that made hemispherical depressions. So I made some microlenses.
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    ==== Laser Parameters ====
    Had some requests for more details about the laser parameters. I'm not sure how much this is dependent on my particular machine vs. generally applicable, but in case it helps:
    - 50W fiber laser (non-MOPA). Generic out of china, JPT fiber laser inside
    - Power ranged from 2-20%, 40kHz frequency, 500mm/s to 3000mm/s, 63mm f-theta lens, single pass
    - Most good ablation craters were in the 10-15% power range. Speed from 1500 to 3000mm/s depending on how much spacing you want between craters.
    - Power in range from 6-10% tends to create dimples and spikes. Below 6% and there's no visible effect
    - 0.05mm stepover on hatching
    - Wafer was 111 orientation thick (500um?) wafer
    ==== Equipment and techniques ====
    - nGauge AFM from ICSPI: www.icspicorp.com/
    - AFM Scans are post processed in Gwyddion (gwyddion.net/) and 3D images rendered in Blender
    - Thermo Phenom XL scanning electron microscope
    - Metal assisted chemical etching: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_a...
    ==== Timeline ====
    0:00 Intro
    0:44 Metal Assisted Chemical Etching
    2:25 Strange observation
    3:42 Hypothesis #1: heavy oxidation
    4:32 Hypothesis #2: Si-Ag "doping"
    6:19 Hypothesis #3: indiscriminate etching
    7:26 HNA etchant
    8:26 Safety Disclaimer
    10:22 Etching with HNA
    12:16 PDMS molding
    14:42 Do they focus light?
    16:01 Molding problems
    17:47 Other fun phenomena
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Komentáře • 446

  • @BreakingTaps
    @BreakingTaps  Před 2 lety +87

    **Addendum**
    - I meant 4mm^2 (2x2mm) in the intro, although I later measured and it's actually 1x1mm. Oops! Sorry for the confusion, I phrased it poorly :)

    • @Alexagrigorieff
      @Alexagrigorieff Před 2 lety +1

      A similar process is used to etch diamond. A nickel or iron mask is deposited. Under high temperatures in H2 atmosphere, carbon dissolves in the mask and gets carried away by reacting with hydrogen into CH4.

    • @AndroidFerret
      @AndroidFerret Před 2 lety +2

      Funny ..that was thebfirst thing I thought

    • @izzy6301
      @izzy6301 Před 2 lety

      I wonder how many people saw the text poking fun at explosions and fire during the safety speech

    • @anotheruser676
      @anotheruser676 Před rokem +1

      I was thinking you must have the BIGGEST finger in the lab.

    • @OMNI_INFINITY
      @OMNI_INFINITY Před rokem

      *Designed an HMD before and visiting china now and working on a new HMD design. Can supply some microlens arrays for the prototypes? Thanks in advance, if possible!*

  • @smartereveryday
    @smartereveryday Před 2 lety +234

    This is better than reading a paper. Great work!

    • @vexari_
      @vexari_ Před 2 lety

      yes

    • @applanateearth586
      @applanateearth586 Před 2 lety +1

      What's a paper?

    • @bumpyshow745
      @bumpyshow745 Před rokem +3

      @@applanateearth586 Before computers people made soup from trees and let it dry into sheets. After that they would use a mixture of chemichals to write stuff on. Basically a old kindle

  • @AppliedScience
    @AppliedScience Před 2 lety +413

    I liked the whole journey! Maybe those laser crater spikes would make nice field emission sources. A big array could really pump out some electrons!

    • @Muonium1
      @Muonium1 Před 2 lety +14

      That's exactly what I thought when I saw them too. It reminded me of the little picture that would invariably accompany all those "flat panel TVs could be just around the corner!" articles in the early 90s I would constantly see in Popular Science, Discover, etc.

    • @dtroy15
      @dtroy15 Před 2 lety +15

      The production quality of this video was amazing. The backlighting, the 3d scans, everything. Bravo.

    • @andymouse
      @andymouse Před 2 lety +11

      Dont mention this to Big Clive or we'll be getting more Ionizers.....cheers.

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Před 2 lety +88

      Oh boy, I think you just nerd sniped me 😂 Now I'm elbow-deep in papers and patents about field emission displays and similar. Will see if I can wrangle something up with the tools I have!
      The other potential project I was thinking of was something like this "massively parallel AFM" paper (www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-20612-3)

    • @ThomasAndersonbsf
      @ThomasAndersonbsf Před 2 lety +11

      @@BreakingTaps I was actually thinking if they were coated in aluminum like how thermal blankets are, these could be gathering points for phonons?(thermal equivalent to electrons and photons? not sure right now what the term is) but basically heat is absorbed easily by the unaluminized surface as IR radiation if you had say a vacuum behind it, but vacuum on the aluminized side would mean any thermal energy lost would be IR photons and these get rejected back into the vacuum so assisting very low amounts of thermal energy to collect enough in a centralized point to eject it as an IR photon, on the aluminized side could be what will make a true passive thermal diode where the thermal energy is also doing the work of moving itself from the cold side to the warm side. Just imagine a refrigeration unit that uses no power and you have an opening to let heat back in through micro pores to even it out, to regulate the temperature rather than generating loads of heat running compressors or the heat generated by running electrons through peltier units to cool something to add to the heat you have to manage, where the passive cooling system both costs no energy to run, just to build the unit, and does not have to regulate additional heat created powering it! (my idea using thermal blankets stacked with air gaps between each layer and all aluminized sides of the blankets facing the same direction to block heat from sunlight ect, during summer worked extremely effectively just with 3 layers, but like peltiers stacked I am guessing more layers would mean more efficiency, that and coupling it with using aerogel supports to spread the layers out so conduction of heat back into the chamber is minimized)

  • @smartereveryday
    @smartereveryday Před 2 lety +135

    I wonder if you you were to tilt the specimen down just a bit before you spin it by placing it on a slight wedge. This may make the mold release to run "down" and flow out of the crater. Like this:
    ⦣ Angle of plate 🠒 Spin force
    Just an idea.

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Před 2 lety +20

      Not a bad idea! Would be interesting to see how much (or if) it affects the layer thickness as well, or if there is any kind of gradient effect. One thing I neglected to mention in the video is that it's a race against solvent evaporation too... as the thin film spreads out, the solvent rapidly evaporates and the solids "crash out". Handy when you're trying to spin photoresist to a known thickness, less handy when trying to get an even coat of mold release :)
      Cheers for the idea! Will try it out next time I'm using the mold release again!

    • @frollard
      @frollard Před 2 lety +11

      @@BreakingTaps I wonder if it would be feasible to have a saturated atmosphere of solvent inside the spin coater to reduce evaporation giving a longer work time. Very cool vid top to bottom!

    • @ThomasAndersonbsf
      @ThomasAndersonbsf Před 2 lety +3

      @@BreakingTaps I am wondering if there is a surfactant that you could use that is a liquid at room temp so you can be sure when smon out it is a single layer of the surfactant molecules standing up off the surface of the mold either that does not bond to the resin or does but the surfactant easily lets go of the silicon. also on smoothing the surfact I wonder if a smaller molecule based material would work better like using graphite that is used for EDM machines :)

  • @johnathancorgan3994
    @johnathancorgan3994 Před 2 lety +52

    In Australian sheds, as long as you don't contaminate your working area with anything yellow, HF is fine to handle.

    • @m1lkweed
      @m1lkweed Před 2 lety +2

      As all chemists know, yellow is evil

    • @rickypoindexter9505
      @rickypoindexter9505 Před 2 lety +1

      @@m1lkweed would you mind explaining why? As a non chemist the only thing that comes to mind is yellowcake.

    • @simonargus7662
      @simonargus7662 Před 2 lety +10

      @@rickypoindexter9505 it's a meme from the the channel "Explosions&Fire", an australian guy that makes quite funny chemistry video about mostly explosive stuff

  • @kaysb80
    @kaysb80 Před 2 lety +73

    Anything can be handled in that one shed in Australia ;D

    • @TheLtVoss
      @TheLtVoss Před 2 lety +16

      If it turns yellow we might run in to problems

  • @sakelaine2953
    @sakelaine2953 Před 2 lety +9

    6:34 it's a fundamental effect, the reason it's not in papers is because most of the people writing papers would take it for granted that their audience knows that catalysts just speed up a process that would happen by lowering the energy cost through mediation. So if you're in a situation where using a catalyst would help, remember that the desired effect is still happening at a slower rate. For most stuff this doesn't matter at all; at the scales you're working with it's important and I'm glad you figured it out.

  • @thomasesr
    @thomasesr Před 2 lety +76

    You should shine a cheap laser pointer through the glass slide microlenses and project it on a wall to see if it does anything interesting.

  • @MaterialsSci
    @MaterialsSci Před 2 lety +103

    Hello! In your 'molding problems' section, you mention dimples near the top of your lenses. If indeed the problem is from an over-accumulation of mold release, you could try sputtering a thin film of gold onto the silicon surface and using that as a sort of mold release because the silicon will not stick well to the gold without a proper adhesion layer; additionally, the PDMS will not stick well to the gold without a specific chemical treatment (chemical treatment to make the gold adhere to the PDMS very well can be done really easily with a not very dangerous chemical called MPTMS). If the gold sputtering route does interest you, using the MPTMS surface treatment, you can make static mirror arrays as well as strain-tunable mirror arrays and strain-tunable plasmonic devices because of the metal first-surface on the PDMS.

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Před 2 lety +31

      Oh! That's a really clever trick! Might give that a try and see how it goes, and definitely a useful tip for future work.
      MPTMS sounds _super_ interesting for plating PDMS, I didn't realize that was possible (at least robustly... I coated them with a thin layer of silver to help with SEM imaging but figured it would crack/delaminate quickly). That's really cool, will look into that more. Could make for some really interesting experiments in the future. Thanks!

    • @MaterialsSci
      @MaterialsSci Před 2 lety +20

      @@BreakingTaps The MPTMS route is really fascinating chemically speaking, the chemical has a sulfur group on one end that gives good bonding to gold and a silane group on the other which bonds well to the PDMS. Immersing the gold layer in a MPTMS solution is quick and easy too and that's all that you really need to do before spinning on your PDMS since the MPTMS forms a self assembled monolayer. I'd be happy to share my recipes if you'd like, could maybe save some time. Sputter coating PDMS directly with a metal is also interesting, the thickness of the metal film (at least in the case of gold) that you coat the PDMS with changes the final morphology of the film e.g., if the film is above a certain thickness range then you can end up getting a very wavy (buckled) surface which can be used for all sorts of stretchable electronic contacts and interconnects (for wearable electronics and things), as well as strain-tunable random gratings (these end up being also very interesting and strange to look at as they have an appearance that resembles silvery-white, rainbow-ish, diffractive gold)

    • @jeremygalloway1348
      @jeremygalloway1348 Před 2 lety

      Uranium will work too...possibly

    • @KallePihlajasaari
      @KallePihlajasaari Před 2 lety

      What about a transparent layer so it does not affect the optical quality of the lens. Is TinOxide a possible mould release?

    • @MaterialsSci
      @MaterialsSci Před 2 lety +5

      @@KallePihlajasaari Having oxides on the surface in general is part of the sticking problem because PDMS bonds pretty well to oxides. Silicon itself will arrive with a SiO2 passivation layer for example. Since metals like Au have very weak bonding to un-modified PDMS, you can coat a surface like Si or a passivated surface like SiO2 and make a nonbonding interface that allows liftoff of the PDMS or other materials you may cast onto the surface. An oxide like SnO2 would probably stick pretty strongly to the PDMS since the PDMS itself is an Si-O polymer that bonds well to oxides and would likely not perform as well as Au or Ag for liftoff. Additionally, films of Au are pretty highly transparent (although transmitting greenish blue light) when grown in very thin films ~20 nm or less; having metals be partially transparent in thin films is sort of the basis of plasmonics and some metamaterial lenses

  • @izzieb
    @izzieb Před 2 lety +73

    The oblong micro lenses aren't bad - they're just anamorphic micro lenses.

    • @xenontesla122
      @xenontesla122 Před 2 lety +55

      Perfect for filming widescreen movies of tardigrades XD

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Před 2 lety +38

      I think you both win the best-comment award :)

    • @villebooks
      @villebooks Před 2 lety +3

      @@xenontesla122 watching this is on my bucket list x'D

  • @SeanLinsley
    @SeanLinsley Před 2 lety +21

    this is awesome, feels like an Applied Science video

    • @meetoptics
      @meetoptics Před 2 lety +1

      The explanation is amazing!!!

  • @HuygensOptics
    @HuygensOptics Před 2 lety +22

    Very nice results Zach! I guess if you really dive a little deeper into the process, you could probably make much better lens arrays, maybe it is even possible to make well-defined aspherics. But then you need to be in control in every parameter of the process. Developing new technology into something useful is always a long and bumpy road.

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Před 2 lety +5

      Thanks! Yeah, definitely a rabbit hole :) After sorting out the molding issues, would probably need to spend some time characterizing the ablation crater... it's likely not spherical at all, given the (theoretically) gaussian pulse profile. And a lot more work to make the system consistent/repeatable, no mechanical misalignments, etc.
      One reason I'm happy about youtube projects! I can get the idea working and then move on, skipping all the actual hard work! 😁

  • @fastindy
    @fastindy Před 2 lety +2

    10:21 "There's always a silver lining"
    I see what you did there

  • @DarqeDestroyer
    @DarqeDestroyer Před 2 lety +3

    17:58 It's amazing how a tiny "micro spike" about a micron tall, totally looks like a giant geological feature, an enormous series of concentric rings with a giant mountain in the middle, like mount doom or something.

  • @mikepeterson9733
    @mikepeterson9733 Před 2 lety +2

    BT, you are one of the people who make CZcams an amazing place. Thank you so much for everything you show us!

  • @ChrisTuttle
    @ChrisTuttle Před 2 lety +19

    Ever since the first demonstration of light field photography, I have been trying to figure out how to make my own micro lens arrays. Your video covers so many aspects of whats involved that “finally” I think I understand the magnitude and scope of this task. This is an awesome video! Thanks! I am looking forward to your follow up videos regarding this project.

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Před 2 lety +5

      Thanks for watching! There might be some easier methods which probably don't involve so many exotic chemicals or tools. I think the photoresist-slumping method is probably a bit easier (not sure the right keywords... basically pattern small circles of photoresist and then heat them up, causing the spots to soften and slump into hemispheres). Does require some kind of lithography technique though, and two rounds of molding to get the final shape. There might be even easier techniques, not sure, it definitely seems like a field where there are a lot of creative techniques :) Goodluck!

    • @heidelbergaren5054
      @heidelbergaren5054 Před 2 lety +1

      @@BreakingTaps
      It’s called reflow, the technique to heat resist so it forms semi-spheres. But it also means that it’s only rotational symmetrical lenses that can be formed

    • @98f5
      @98f5 Před 2 lety +1

      I too love and wish for light field cameras.

    • @LanceThumping
      @LanceThumping Před 2 lety +1

      I've been thinking about light field photography too recently. I was wondering if the sensors could be made either as spires or in holes so that the angle could be detected without increasing the size of the sensor needed.

  • @aetius31
    @aetius31 Před 2 lety +10

    Btw, you could try using ammonium fluoride as an etchant instead of HF.
    It is much safer to work with and the fact it has a lower etching rate could remove the debris without eating too deep into the creaters.
    Also maybe going for an evaporation coating for the mold release agent could be better than spin coating, for instance just heat up gently a silicone oil with your slide just above the surface.

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Před 2 lety +6

      Oh, will look into ammonium fluoride! That's basically what's in the glass etching creams right? Totally fine with slower rates as long as it's safer, and it'd probably be more controllable that way anyhow. Cheers for the tip (and the evap coating, will try that!)

    • @aetius31
      @aetius31 Před 2 lety +2

      @@BreakingTaps Glad you find the tip interesting!
      I heard that silicon fluoride kinda works aswell but i never tried it.
      Also for the mold release,you can try putting a few drops of silicone oil into toluene dipping your slide into it and let evaporate, I have not idea of the nedeed ratio of silicone tho.

  • @abdomohamed-qt1he
    @abdomohamed-qt1he Před rokem

    This is real research, not a traditional CZcams random trial. Loved it

  • @julians7268
    @julians7268 Před 2 lety

    That hexagonal pattern... that should be incorporated into merch or something. It looks freaking awesome. Loved the video.

  • @rocketman475
    @rocketman475 Před 2 lety +4

    The mold release buildup problem might be improved by -
    1. Lowering its viscosity with a compatable solvent.
    2. Spinning it with the apparatus upside down after applying mold release with a spray bottle from underneath.
    3. Make sure the release agent is properly set in order to prevent it slumping into the hollow. So store it upside-down until certain that it has cured.
    ° Upside-down application might produce a thickening to occur around the outer rim of each micro bowl, and that might be able to be manipulated so as to result in a superior end product.
    Cheers. 👍

  • @jeffpkamp
    @jeffpkamp Před 2 lety +1

    way off-topic, but I spent two or three minutes looking for a cricket in my house, that was actually helping you with the ambiance for the audio on this video :)

  • @edgeeffect
    @edgeeffect Před 2 lety +4

    I love stuff like this... contrasting my own difficulties with achieving mm precision with you talking about sub micron structures is great. :)

  • @julians7268
    @julians7268 Před 2 lety

    Videos can NEVER be too long. I'd have watched this for 5 hours just admiring the different structures that can be produced from laser etching.

  • @BioBush
    @BioBush Před 2 lety +1

    Just watching you bounce through different problems and solutions and theories and observations is so interesting. I have zero background in this, but still want to see your future discoveries. Thanks for doing this work!

  • @olleolsson7837
    @olleolsson7837 Před 2 lety +1

    Nothing to do with the episode, but I really appreciate the black end screen that goes on for a couple of seconds. It’s very calming.
    Great editing idea. 👍🏽

  • @BCurt1776
    @BCurt1776 Před 2 lety +1

    I like the shout out to Explosions & Fire lol. Great video!

  • @aetius31
    @aetius31 Před 2 lety +6

    Great video (as usual), I found quite funny that you dont have acetic acid but have no problem getting HF :)

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Před 2 lety +4

      Hehe yeah, it made me laugh as well. I was certain I had some... turns out it was citric not acetic 🙃

  • @Ornateluna
    @Ornateluna Před 2 lety +3

    lol that explosionsandfire call out

  • @Changitojuanito
    @Changitojuanito Před 2 lety

    This is seriously amazing. The ideas that change the world are made from this.

  • @bashkillszombies
    @bashkillszombies Před 2 lety +1

    Whoa that guy has a black whiteboard, and he writes on it with light colored markers! That looks so cool! Way easier on the eyes too! You're a genius bro, you should patent it and call it the Breaking Taps's patented 'Unwhite Board.'

  • @tom7
    @tom7 Před 2 lety

    Very neat!

  • @TheBauwssss
    @TheBauwssss Před 2 lety +3

    Put the mold release on, spread it around the surface so it touches every part and then spin it off at really high RMP, but adhere the slide to the rotor of the spincoater, hold the apparatus upside down and then turn it on! This way the mold release should be able to completely evacuate those cavities, allowing you to cast the microlenses without that tiny dent on each lens 'ball' 😁

  • @darkairieal
    @darkairieal Před 2 lety +1

    Man this is just the coolest youtube channel.

  • @benrogers5845
    @benrogers5845 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video, thanks for sharing your work!

  • @MisterIkkus
    @MisterIkkus Před 2 lety +2

    I am fascinated by everything you put out. Thanks so much for your hard work and excellent videos.

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Před 2 lety

      Thanks for watching! Really appreciate it :)

  • @HaloWolf102
    @HaloWolf102 Před 2 lety +2

    I love research papers in video format. This was an amazing video, thank you for making it.

  • @janbeck8269
    @janbeck8269 Před 2 lety +1

    Sweet! Thanks for sharing!

  • @pyronac1
    @pyronac1 Před 2 lety

    incredible. thank you for sharing this.

  • @helmutzollner5496
    @helmutzollner5496 Před rokem

    Very interesting! Thank you!

  • @SybrenSmith
    @SybrenSmith Před rokem

    Love your channel man. Really great storytelling Keep up the good work.

  • @florianf4257
    @florianf4257 Před 2 lety +8

    For me it was no surprise that the continuous silver layer worked like a mask. The selective metal etching requires (according to your description) the H2O2 (and afterwads HF) to get below the metal layer, so it should only work with metal structures with relative low width or porous metal structures. With a continuous silver film, there is just no way the etchant can reach the silicon and thus it acts as a mask (except on the edges).

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Před 2 lety +3

      Somewhat surprisingly, it depends on thickness of the metal film. There are some papers (pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2015/ra/c5ra15745e/unauth) that show both effects depending on the thickness. With 40nm of gold, you mostly get edge effects like you mentioned... it edges just on the edges of the metal and you start to get a "curved" structure.
      But with 20nm of gold, there were enough nano-pinholes that the etchant could diffuse through the metal film and etch evently (and also caused a forest of "nanowires"). So I only deposited 15nm of silver onto my wafers hoping it'd be similar. Not sure why it didn't work to be honest, perhaps silver reacts differently? It does have oxidation states that Gold doesn't, so maybe that plays into it somehow. I would have expected to at least see the edge of the silver to etch some but really didn't, no matter which sample or test I looked at :(

    • @florianf4257
      @florianf4257 Před 2 lety +5

      @@BreakingTaps The problem might be that you sputter your metal layer. Layers deposited by thermal evaporation or e-beam evaporation typically have larger grains and thus more pinholes. In our old Edwards 306 the gold films have grain sizes of 10-20 nm, so a 20nm-film wouldn't be continuous. But with sputtering, the metal has a much higher mobility on the surface and thus you will get a film with higher density (which is less favourable in this case).
      If you are interested in a relative easy way to create large areas with (more or less) regular patterning you should look into nanosphere lithography: depositing a monolayer of small polystyrene beads by adding a drop of water with the right concentration of particles (we sucessfully used particles down to 220nm). The surface charge of the beads should be same as the sample), deposit your metal, and remove the beads (which can be done with scoth tape). You can also use a even lower concentrations of beads with beads having an opposite surface charge as your substrate and get a metal film with random holes. But in this case, you have to remove the beads by solvents and ultrasonic cleaning.

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Před 2 lety +5

      ​@@florianf4257 Ahh, that seems like a very plausible explanation. I bet that's the issue! I might try again with a _very_ light coating (few nm) and see if there is noticeable different results. Will check out nanosphere litho, sounds interesting and pretty approachable! Thanks for the brainstorming and suggestions!

  • @seanbrinlee4752
    @seanbrinlee4752 Před 2 lety

    This is really good stuff, I love seeing the notifications for your new videos!

    • @meetoptics
      @meetoptics Před 2 lety

      The explanation is amazing!!!

  • @dainius4168
    @dainius4168 Před 2 lety

    An extremely well made presentation!

  • @JulianMakes
    @JulianMakes Před rokem

    Awesome video thanks!

  • @markos.5539
    @markos.5539 Před 2 lety +4

    Such a cool project cuz the models and visuals were stunning. Tbf, I had a bit hard time catching up but its really interesting nonetheless.

  • @johnmorrell3187
    @johnmorrell3187 Před 2 lety

    I just attended a talk by a guy (Greg Nielson) who's developed a technology where two photon absorption is used to make silicon (or silicon carbide) susceptible to etching. Two photon absorption is caused when photons at energies lower than are needed to excite electrons out of the valence bands can still cause electrons to be excited when two photons together are absorbed. Since this is only statistically possible when the intensity of light is very high, you can selectively etch a region controlled by the focal point of a laser source. The silicon is transparent to the laser and doesn't have much effect except at this focal point, which means you can etch out 3d paths with very precise geometry and ridiculously high aspect ratios of tunnels (like aspect ratios above 1000). It's like SLA printing in reverse. Pretty cool!

  • @pm4819
    @pm4819 Před rokem

    Man, you do some cool stuff!

  • @MikeyMobes
    @MikeyMobes Před rokem

    thank you for the great in depth safety discussion. Good on you. A safe chemist on youtube is few and far between.

  • @olpizl
    @olpizl Před 2 lety

    That „Explosions&Fire“ reference. Love it. Great video btw!

  • @abhishekkulhari
    @abhishekkulhari Před 2 lety

    Great video! All the etching talk takes me back to my IC Fabrication Class.

    • @meetoptics
      @meetoptics Před 2 lety

      The explanation is amazing!!!

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse Před 2 lety

    I can't get enough of this stuff !.....cheers.

  • @KallePihlajasaari
    @KallePihlajasaari Před 2 lety

    Not too long, we want part two. Please.

  • @a__duck
    @a__duck Před 2 lety

    This kind of stuff is so cool.

    • @meetoptics
      @meetoptics Před 2 lety

      The explanation is amazing!!!

  • @pauls5745
    @pauls5745 Před 2 lety

    yes! generate so many of those peaks as close as possible and you'll see the material can be hydrophobic and other interesting properties

  • @WaffleStaffel
    @WaffleStaffel Před 2 lety

    Excellent! Always fascinating! Thanks!

    • @meetoptics
      @meetoptics Před 2 lety

      Yeah, thank you so much, it is insightful

  • @IhsanMujdeci
    @IhsanMujdeci Před 2 lety

    Bro, I don't know pretty much anything in this field but I love your work! Learning slowly through osmosis.

  • @Zolbat
    @Zolbat Před 2 lety +1

    First time watcher here, its incredible what technology you use and how you showcase what it does. I wonder if you could use those reliable spikes in a circular pattern to create a lens

  • @YodaWhat
    @YodaWhat Před rokem +1

    @Breaking Taps - I suspect your laser etching was so intense, it vaporized the photoresist, causing *ablative etching* of the underlying material. With that in mind, I think you could skip some steps and the dangerous chemicals, by just painting the surface with something that is black at your laser wavelength, and directly etch your pits. You will of course have to experiment with thickness of the paint and the laser power/focus, but you should be able to produce etching of a wide range of surface textures just by varying those 2 parameters. I discovered this effect when etching patterns onto the back of mirror tiles. In that case, too little laser power would remove just the black paint, leaving the mirror metal largely undamaged, which was then very hard to remove with further laser etching.

  • @JustATempest
    @JustATempest Před 2 lety

    I like how this channel went from a workshop channel to straight up microscopic science.

  • @johndooley1941
    @johndooley1941 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice, I remember about 25 years ago some researchers in the UK made a micro lens sheet film but I think the lenses were a few millimetres in diameter and the optics were such on the lenses you could shine a projector onto the lens film and then view the sheet from any angle and see the flat image that was being projected without distortion from pretty much any angle, the lenses accommodated for any distortion. I don't remember if they mirrored the back of the sheet or whether it was all in the shape of the lenses

  • @dieselphiend
    @dieselphiend Před rokem

    When YT can provide you with a better education than institutions.

  • @GermanMythbuster
    @GermanMythbuster Před 2 lety

    Super cool video!
    Keep up the great work man you are awesome! 😃😃😃🤩

  • @KidCorporate
    @KidCorporate Před 2 lety

    Not sure why this particular video got me to subscribe, but here I am.

  • @FilmFactry
    @FilmFactry Před 2 lety

    You got my SUBSCRIBE in less than 40 seconds. very clear and interesting presentation. Some youtubers drag things on so long.

  • @alfoxgamer
    @alfoxgamer Před 2 lety +1

    Keep it up ! Love your videos

  • @stuartrobertson331
    @stuartrobertson331 Před 2 lety

    Awesome work ! Beautiful sem work too

  • @bastilux
    @bastilux Před 2 lety

    Realy cool project. I didn´t knew about metal assisted etching myself and will try it in my research.
    For the etching process: In my experience laser structuring of a silicon surface with a thin film layer of gold leaves some regions in crystaline and some in an amorph phase. So actually what you suggested with the melting. This is proven by several methods like TEM lamella and leads to interesting results with anisotropic etching, as the amorph layer reacts completely different to an KOH/Isopropanol etchant.

  • @willkrummeck
    @willkrummeck Před rokem

    amasing, i been dreaming about this, but not so small cause if you can have these in paint it would be good for many things

  • @zombieregime
    @zombieregime Před 2 lety

    For what its worth, in animatronics we would use a silicone release that was paraffin wax and hexane(iirc). I had the thought of spinning that on a mold to see if the surface left from the wax would be smooth enough. But considering the size scales and some of the other chemical engineering in other posts about releasing silicone, yall are miles beyond my level of chemical understanding LOL
    Still, love the channel. Its awesome seeing someone beyond the 'this is a resistor' beginning level kind of stuff, but not talking like a retired academic using terms only people with doctorates would understand. Makes for a great intermediate 'next step' if you will in learning higher sciences. 😁👍

  • @DerClaudius
    @DerClaudius Před 2 lety

    Interesting, thanks. I wonder if you could spin off the mold release by setting the glass plate on it's edge, off-center, etching facing out... you'd need another glass plate for balance and some holder for both plates.

  • @Theminecraftian772
    @Theminecraftian772 Před 2 lety +1

    Fantastic production quality!! These microlenses might be useful for increasing solar panel efficiency by refracting the different light colors out of sunlight. Maybe a series of differently sized holes will yield some interesting result as a micro-refractor in various laser scenarios. Great science!!

    • @heidelbergaren5054
      @heidelbergaren5054 Před 2 lety

      The films with lenses to increase effectiveness of solar panels are not symmetrically round, they look more like bananas

    • @Theminecraftian772
      @Theminecraftian772 Před 2 lety

      @@heidelbergaren5054 That's awesome!! Sad that this method of lens generation won't work, but I had no idea they used bananas to make solar panels.

  • @paranoiia8
    @paranoiia8 Před 2 lety +1

    So... you can start doing sunglasses for flies and other bugs "Ray Ban for flies"

  • @synapticaxon9303
    @synapticaxon9303 Před 2 lety +5

    What parameters are you using to produce the "micro-spikes"? If you coat them with silver, I suspect they can be used as a reflective axicon lens (or "reflaxicon"). Then it would be interesting to use your ablation laser reflected off that, producing a Bessel-like beam, or perhaps an array of these beams. You said they are about one micron tall and have a radius of 200-400nm? I would hypothesize that you can produce more uniform ablation/etching using bessel-like beams because the waste material will not interfere as much, there will be fewer optical aberrations. Add a phase conjugate mirror to the mix and you've got something special. Very interesting, indeed.

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Před 2 lety +3

      Added some details to the video description! Basically low power (6-10%), 40kHz, and a 63mm lens on my particular machine. That's an interesting idea about the axicons! Will mull it over, and might be able to do something fun with the etched ablation craters too if they are coated. Hmmm

    • @michaelfoye1135
      @michaelfoye1135 Před 2 lety +1

      @@BreakingTaps Please permit me to offer some unsolicited advice.
      Watching your video, it occurred to me that the problem you were having is not unlike the sort of problems many hobbyists have when trying to make molds of toys or small gadgets.
      If I interpreted your description of your molding process correctly, you simply poured the silicon into the available gap on the mold you wanted to use. This is not a bad way to make molds for jelly candies, sugar candies, and other similar edibles. You may have noticed that many of these candies have hollows in their shapes not at all dissimilar to the ones that you have in your lenses. Fortunately there are a number of possible solutions to this issue. I recommend that you take a look at the methods used in industry to make casts and molds for metal, plastic, and silicone. What I think will be most beneficial tfor your purposes is adding a sprue, runner, and a riser to your casting. I would also ad an exit sprue for excess material. You want to pour more material than you are using, have a slight rise from the pouring cup and sprue into a well that connects to a runner, then to a riser, then another riser which may or may not have a gate and into the casting and the exit sprue which should rise to the level of the pouring cup sprue so it can catch all the materials being displaced, and help to maintain the pressure on the mold surface. Insufficient pressure on mold surface is a very large part of the problem you are having with the lenses being deformed. The added material has to be trimmed, but you will most likely end up with a significantly better quality final product.
      I hope that you will find this helpful. Thank you for sharing your interesting work.

  • @davidk7544
    @davidk7544 Před 2 lety

    try ablation under vacuum. try adding pinhole separate physical layer in the same pattern behind your microlenses. glass workers i've worked with say it's safest to handle HF with bare wet hands - kept wet and rinsed while working. prevents the acid from hitting the skin directly and does a bit of dilution and prevents direct contact with skin. it's the HF permeating skin that leads to bone loss under the contact. (not seen this in action) want to collaborate? tell me how.

  • @morkovija
    @morkovija Před 2 lety

    For when you need something more challenging than "look!things went boom!"

  • @sublucid
    @sublucid Před 2 lety +5

    Can you make super hydrophobic surfaces using the spikes (or some other laser-pattern)?

  • @JB-wq6yi
    @JB-wq6yi Před 2 lety

    This is one of the coolest videos I have seen on CZcams in some time. I am wondering if you formed the microlens array on a substrate with high thermal expansion properties if you could make it focusable by changing the temperature, and it would be cool to see a Fresnel lens made with this type of process, I think it could be pulled off with some of the patterns I saw there.

    • @meetoptics
      @meetoptics Před 2 lety

      Yeah, thank you so much, it is insightful

  • @JakeDownsWuzHere
    @JakeDownsWuzHere Před 2 lety

    the first thing i'm thinking of is lightfield photos, but i'm not sure if it applies haha. Great job using your scraps and making a great video out of your tanget.

  • @lynxshd
    @lynxshd Před 2 lety

    could you get a better mold, by slowing down the laser strike to spread the dimples (adding more space between each dimple ) making more room for the dimple to growing during the longer etching period? that way you can capture a smoother full sphere. Cool way to make lemonade out of lemons.

  • @ThomasAndersonbsf
    @ThomasAndersonbsf Před 2 lety +3

    those rough looking ridges look like a way to super micronize the thickness of a sound absorbing coating to go on a wall or something similar. might be a cool experiment to make enough to put a cone of silence around a mic so only what is directly in front of it is picked up, any side glancing sound waves get absorbed mostly and don't hit the mic?

    • @Greenicegod
      @Greenicegod Před 2 lety

      The reason sound absorbing materials are big and thick is because sound waves are on the scale of centimeters to decimeters. Any obstruction smaller than the wavelength of the sound you want to absorb is no obstruction at all. The wave will just roll past it without noticing.

    • @ThomasAndersonbsf
      @ThomasAndersonbsf Před 2 lety

      @@Greenicegod question, how does such a long wave travel in air when gas particles are so small? LOL

  • @SteelWolf13
    @SteelWolf13 Před 2 lety +1

    17:20 you can see his brain trying to check his mouth from saying corners when referring to a half sphere.

  • @tedz2usa
    @tedz2usa Před 2 lety

    What if you used strong bursts of compressed air after spinning, to "blow" out the deposited mold release? So awesome to watch this journey!

  • @EatRawGarlic
    @EatRawGarlic Před 2 lety

    If in the future you could optimize process control further, it would be interesting to see if a micro-lens array could be used for a DIY light field camera.

  • @frankgarcia8378
    @frankgarcia8378 Před 2 lety

    This silicon spikes are probably from the expansion of the silicon upon cooling after melting. I get (much larger) ones when I use an electron beam deposition system for evaporating silicon. Careful control of the laser parameters should allow you to create spikes with different geometries (size, height, etc.).

  • @gristlevonraben
    @gristlevonraben Před 2 lety

    Awesome video

    • @meetoptics
      @meetoptics Před 2 lety

      Yeah, thank you so much, it is insightful

  • @techninja42
    @techninja42 Před 2 lety

    Should definitely make an animation of the crater spikes at different adjacent settings, they seem so repeatable it could be seamless to make as many as you need for the different frames.

  • @Dovorans
    @Dovorans Před 2 lety

    If you make a big array of those laser induced spikes, use that as a positive mold it would be cool to see if the a pad of silicone with a bunch of those spikes would act like the hairs on gecko feet.

  • @beaudanner
    @beaudanner Před 2 lety

    Would love to see how these are used and applied at the end. Great work and details given.
    Have you tried Dustin's idea? Really interested

  • @DavidLindes
    @DavidLindes Před 2 lety

    15:06 (and 15:39 makes it easier to see) - soooo much sensor dust! :'(
    ( ;) )
    But seriously: fascinating, cool stuff. Thanks for sharing! And for skipping filming the deadly parts!! Safety takes priority.

  • @julianlauterfeld6273
    @julianlauterfeld6273 Před rokem

    I really enjoy all of your Videos, don't know if you still read comments on older videos but I thought about mass spectrometry and somehow that you would be the perfect fit to build and explain one 😆 keep it up

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Před rokem +1

      I do keep an eye on old videos, thanks for the comment! I'll keep it in mind, mass spec is super cool and I wouldn't mind having a poor man's version sitting aroudn 😁

    • @julianlauterfeld6273
      @julianlauterfeld6273 Před rokem

      @@BreakingTaps having a small fangirl moment here 😁

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Před rokem

      @@julianlauterfeld6273 🤗

  • @JathTech
    @JathTech Před 2 lety

    Try placing the mold on top of the epoxy resin so the mold release flows out to the edges of the craters rather than to the bottom.

  • @Yuzuki017
    @Yuzuki017 Před 2 lety

    17 19
    yes. the same can be found in machining... with scraped ways.
    fluid... or liquid dynamics. its an interesting topic.

  • @renatobugge6863
    @renatobugge6863 Před 2 lety

    Very nice presentation. The anisotropic Si etching you experience in the first part is probably due to the material quality or purity of your Si substrate. It could be residue from the polishing or it could be the actual material (when the ingot was made). If you want to repeat it, I would go for high resistance FZ Si with a good RCA cleaning procedure before you start.
    I like your warning about the HF. Its extremely dangerous. HNA etching is very fast and tend to show localized etching variations that would probably not give you any good result.

  • @paulblanc2993
    @paulblanc2993 Před 2 lety +1

    Huge work to hide that cricket!

  • @georhodiumgeo9827
    @georhodiumgeo9827 Před 2 lety

    Dude you got a comment from Applied Science and SmarterEveryDay. That's legendary stats right there. Great video, thanks. Also it was not too long, you could have rambled for another hour and I would have enjoyed the whole thing.
    Edit: you got Huygens Optics down there too! damn.

  • @ThomasAndersonbsf
    @ThomasAndersonbsf Před 2 lety

    I wonder if the mold release would be cleared if you were to stick the whole thing upside down affixing it to the center so you could spray upward on it then spin to get it to that super thin layering effect, the other aspect would be to run it at various spin rates so you could find the rate that leaves more instead of less to create dimples of sunk in mold release where the pits are at, and it becomes your smooth surface for the lenses to form?

  • @peterxyz3541
    @peterxyz3541 Před 2 lety

    Fascinating. I wondered how camera micro lens got made
    Have you tried spinning the mold release up-side-down? Allowing extra release to fall away with gravity?

  • @TheRealBanana
    @TheRealBanana Před 2 lety +2

    9:00 lol careful, you may anger the chem gods and be cursed with yellow product and abysmal yields for eternity.

  • @JCT-
    @JCT- Před 2 lety

    I'm a fan of the stuff you do already! How do you get a hold of those machines and the laser? Maybe those 1micron-spikes can be used to make a pattern of holes in PDMA.

  • @jdstar6352
    @jdstar6352 Před 2 lety

    Wonderful! Now try making a holographic lens array!