Pablo Escobar, Atlético Nacional and the 1989 Copa Libertadores
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- In 1989, Atlético Nacional, from Medellin in Colombia, won the Copa Libertadores. They became the first Colombian team to win the tournament.
But did drug cartel leader, Pablo Escobar, help them win the title ? Did he influence the outcome of the tournament ?
While some say Escobar threatened officials, others say these claims are untrue. This video includes commentary, from all those who were involved. The story we tell, is fascinating, complex and compelling.
And, whatever the truth about Escobar's reach, the fact remains: in 1989, Atlético Nacional became the Kings of America.
This is a look back at the 1989 Copa Libertadores: the controversies, the great players, and a fascinating story.
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*_Un comentario rapido sobre este video_*
(en Castellano)
(Por favor, perdona mi mal Castellano).
En este video, no quiero faltarle el respeto al Atlético Nacional. Es un equipo con una historia notable y hinchas.
Soy un gran admirador de todo el futbol Colombiano y de Colombia como nacion.
Mi objetivo era contar una historia interesante y examinar los diferentes puntos de vista sobre la Copa Libertadores de 1989.
Pero no queria atacar ni faltar al respeto al Atlético Nacional (ni a sus hinchas). Amo el futbol, amo la historia del futbol y amo los cuentos e historias del futbol. No deseo insultar a ningun equipo.
Y finalmente: gracias a todos mis espectadores y todos mis suscriptores. Gracias a cualquiera que disfrute estos videos. Espero que disfrutes de mi contenido (actual y futuro). Espero que disfruten estas historias y la forma en que las cuento. Siempre estoy abierto a comentarios, ideas para historias, criticas, comentarios de cualquier tipo. Muchas gracias a todos.
Hasta luego, y que tengas un feliz dia.
A brief word about this video from the creator (in English):
I mean no disrespect to Atletico Nacional fans. I am a great admirer of all Colombian football, and Colombia as a nation.
I made this video, to discuss some aspects of the 1989 Copa Libertadores, and to tell an interesting story. But, it is not to attack Atletico Nacional, or disrespect the team in any way.
Thanks to all my viewers and subscribers. I hope you enjoy my existing and future content. Thank you to everyone.
Good video, I subbed!!
Pablo simplemente no pudo comprar la clasificación para la Supercopa contra el SPFC en 1993🔴⚪⚫
Hello! Loved the video, I also subbed. I want to make a video using some of those clips with pablo Escobar, where did you find them?
Thanks.
Hey mate,
I am glad you enjoyed the videos. I will have to check my computer as to where I obtained the footage. I usually purchase videos from archives in various nations, or sometimes I will use news clips. When I use clips of games, the broadcasters are monetized. (I don't mind, I just like telling stories TBH , I don't do this for money, really I would like to attract attention to the Copa Libertadores).
I will check and get back to you with where I found the archives.
I can also, if you give me an email address, put all the videos I used in a DropBox archive, and send them to you that way, if you like.
Also, if you like, you are free to download and use the clips from my video, any, or all of the clips.
Take care mate and all the best.
Hi mate, I just wanted to get back to you about the Pablo Escobar clips.
I have a terrible system, where I download videos and rename them, but they're scattered and disorganised.
Most of them are from video archives which I pay for (so I buy and use archival videos for the most part).
Other clips I obtained just by asking some rights holders, including some documentary film studios.
Others still are from football agencies in South America, who own the clips when they had the licences for specific years. They have granted me permission to use the clips for any purposes. Sometimes, although not often, the videos I obtained from player reps, will trigger a CZcams licensing notification. I've never been asked to remove any videos, because what happens is, I'm allowed to use the videos, but any money from ads or anything must go to the rights holders. That's the agreement.
Which is great, since I don't make money from these anyway. I wouldn't ever insert advertising, except for my own channel so others can watch more videos if they want.
Also, broadly, in most cases, I have edited and altered the footage sufficiently to create a new product which is deemed to be a new legal entity in my country's laws.
So I'm allowed and licensed to use and distribute those clips.
You can use anything you find in my video, anywhere you like. If you can credit back to my channel to help me grow it would be great, but you don't have to.
My goal is just to help open up the world of South American football, and particularly the Copa Libertadores, to people who mainly watch European football.
I'm not interested in making money, I only want people to see the beauty of South American football and especially the passion and wonder of the Copa Libertadores.
Anyway, use whatever you like as there are no copyright restrictions on this video.
If you want a more specific list, let me know and I'll try to dredge one up. The problem is, once I obtain permission for the videos and download them, I rename them and often forget where they come from.
I only write down where they come from in certain cases like, if some archive, or news channel, asks me or wants me to credit them, I write down in those instances.
But most of these are from Colombian TV news channels, from player agencies in Brazil, and from video archives. So you're fine to use anything in the video.
Let me know if you need more help or assistance mate. All the best. I hope you enjoy the videos I continue to make. And I'll be keen to see your video as well !
yang mengesankan bagi saya waktu final piala toyota lawan ac milan 89,, kala itu goal tunggal alberigo evani meski agak sedikit kontroversi memupus harapan atletico medellin menjadi klub terbaik di dunia,,, masih ingat juga betapa eksentriknya sang kiper rene higuita yang berani maju ke depan untuk membantu menyerang,,,, ternyata di balik semua itu,,, he he he
No me gusta nada de Pablo, por lo que hizo en mi pais, pero es historia y quedara marcada. Aun asi buen video
Estos son mis pensamientos exactamente! Muchas gracias por la comentar, y gracias por mirar. Si tiene alguna idea o sugerencia para videos, me complacerá usarlos. Soy un gran fanático de futbol Colombiano, y tengo una gran admiración y respeto por Colombia, como nación, y el pueblo Colombiano.
Gracias de nuevo mi amigo y todo lo mejor.
(PD: lo siento por mi mal Castellano, estoy aprendiendo pero espero que puedas entender lo que quiero decir. Todo lo mejor para ti, mi amigo)
@@Golimetry muchas gracias. Sabes hablar muy bien el Español. Creo que tengo una idea para un video, podrias hacer un video sobre la gran hazaña de Once Caldas que derroto al mejor Boca Juniors de la historia en una final de libertadores. Saludos amigo
@@joseel9161 Ola amigo. Gracias de nuevo por sus comentarios, y esa idea es excelente. Las finales de 2004! Es una historia brillante y maravillosa.
Es similar a mi video, donde cuento la historia de San Lorenzo y las finales de la Copa Libertadores 2014.
Donde los 2 equipos más bajos (los mas bajos sembraron - lo siento, no se como explicar esto en Castellano...es que San Lorenzo y el Club Nacional, ingreso desde las etapas/rondas grupales ("group stages" en Ingles), a la octavos de final, como los equipos clasificados mas bajos y segundos de los dieciseis clubes. Pero entonces, el equipo con el segundo puesto mas bajo (San Lorenzo) lucho contra el equipo con el equipo mas bajo (Nacional) en la final ! Wonderful.
Puedes ver ese video en mi canal, lo vinculare aqui para que puedas verlo si estas interesado:
czcams.com/video/TuOBzebBRtI/video.html
Con respecto a su idea, el video Once Caldas vs Boca Juniors: Si quieres que mencione / acredite tu nombre / canal de CZcams (como crédito y como agradecimiento, por regalarme una idea tan genial), hazmelo saber. Tambien podria escribirlo, en la descripcion del video de Once Caldas. O, si no quieres eso, tambien es bueno.
De todos modos, lamento escribir un descripcion tan largo.
Pero queria decir que su idea es brillante y la convertire en un video en las proximas dos semanas.
La final de Once Caldas vs Boca es perfecta y, como dije, se cargara en 2 semanas. Toma mucho tiempo y mucho esfuerzo hacer estos videos, pero los disfruto.
Pero, es aun mejor cuando mis espectadores disfrutan los videos !
Saludos amigo, y a su familia, y gracias de nuevo por mirar, por sus comentarios y su gran idea.
PD: Cuando termine y publique el proximo video, eso sera sobre la Batalla de Macul, y Ron, el perro policia (el perro militar policia de Santiago. Desde la infame semifinal Boca vs Colo Colo, segunda ronda, en 1991.)
Hice este video hace algun tiempo, asi que solo lo termine ayer y lo publicare en breve. (Espero que vean y disfruten el video sobre la semifinal de 1991. Agradecería mucho sus comentarios.)
Pero tu video, sera el proximo despues del video, sobre 1991 semifinales.
Cuando el video sobre la Copa Libertadores 2004 este completo, en dos semanas mas o menos, lo subire y se lo hare saber. O CZcams te lo notificara.
La final de Once Caldas vs Boca es perfecta. Toma mucho tiempo y mucho esfuerzo hacer estos videos, pero los disfruto.
Pero, es aun mejor cuando mis espectadores disfrutan los videos !
Todo el mejor amigo.
Pablo simplemente no pudo comprar la clasificación para la Supercopa contra el SPFC en 1993🔴⚪⚫
Respect
El men era del otro equipo rojo de medellin
De Verdad ? Gracias por la informacion hermano. Hay algo que deba corregir o cambiar en el video? Estoy agradecido por tu comentario, y siempre aprecio mucho a cualquiera de América del Sur o cualquier país de habla hispana. Porque sabes mas que yo sobre este hermoso fútbol que amo tanto. El futbol Europeo es bueno, pero, El futbol de Sudamericano es legendario. Ojala creciera en Sudamerica, en lugar de Australia, porque entonces entenderia implicitamente la naturaleza y la cultura del futbol Latinoamericano.
Gracias amigo, seriemante. Y si hay videos de su equipo u otra información, desea que lo publique, por favor dígame y estaré muy feliz de hacerlo. Gracias de nuevo mi amigo. Agradezco inmensamente tu comentario.
Ah, y me disculpo por mi mal cCastellano. Estoy tratando de aprender y paso horas todos los días aprendiendo. Pero sin vivir en un país de habla hispana, llevará tiempo esperar que sea comprensible.
Peace Brother.
Ok graciasportu respuesta
@@elmago2993 No te preocupes, mi amigo. Gracias por tu comentario.
@@elmago2993 Hola mi amigo. Habla Castellano, si ? Perdón por mi español de mierda, amigo! ¿Vio a Nacional jugar en la reciente (pretemporada) Copa de Florida? Contra los corintios de Palmeiras de Sao Paulo ? Algunas actuaciones MUY interesantes de AN (Nacional). Quiero hacer un nuevo video sobre este maravilloso equipo. ¿Hay un momento ...o alguna parte de la historia del Atlético Nacional, que crees que podría ser un buen video? (¡O en realidad, cualquier idea que tengas!) Muchas gracias, amigo mío. Mis mejores deseos para ti y tu familia.
He wasn’t fan of that team. He was a fan of another team
Hi, thanks for the comment. There is some dispute over which team he was a fan of: in South America, most people regard him as an Atletico Nacional fan. However, some have said he was actually a fan of their crosstown rivals, Deportivo Independiente Medellín (DIM).
Both teams are from Medellin.
So it's actually, insofar as I've been able to ascertain, not really certain whether he supported DIM, or Atletico Nacional.
My view is he likely supported both, or, at least financially, may have just supported Atletico Nacional un their 1989 season - Fransisco Maturana focused the team on winning the Copa Libertadores campaign that year. Which they did (as my video talks about).
I definitely don't want to make a definitive claim as to whether he was a supporter of one team or the other. He may have supported DIM in the league but desired to help Nacional win the Copa Libertadores - the equivalent of the Champions League, but for South America, the Copa Libertadores is even more important.
Players have said they'd rather win a single Copa Libertadores than two Champions Leagues. (Deco said this actually: he won two UCLs, one with Porto and one with Barca, and he said he'd trade both for a single Copa Libertadores.)
So the Copa Libertadores is really important in South American football. It's seen as more of a people's tournament, where any team can win, with the UCL being more of a commercial, although still prominent, tournament.
But everyone has different opinions and I understand, and respect that. My goal here with these videos, is to encourage football fans who may only watch European football, to view more South American football. And the best entry point is the Copa Libertadores.
Anyway, I hope you enjoyed the video. Let me know if you have any more feedback.
Thanks alot for the comment and for watching, I appreciate all feedback and suggestions, comments, anything.
Take care mate.
BTW, Where did you hear that Escobar was a fan of Deportivo Independentie Medellin (if that's the team you heard he supported), and not Nacional ? I'm quite interested to know.
And I'm always interested in any feedback my viewers have to offer. Improvements, changes, good feedback, bad feedback, anything !
And even if you're not a football fan, I still would love to hear your thoughts, because my objective is to get current fans of European football to take a look at South American football, and even more broadly, to get people who don't watch football, to take a look and hear some of the fascinating and crazy stuff.
They are just awesome stories too, in my view.
So anything you have to say is very important to me, it's more valuable than money, I'm not that focused on money here with this project, I just want to make videos that tell interesting stories.
Okay, thanks again mate and all the best.
i am from medellin and we all know he was a fan of independiente medellin@@Golimetry
everyone knows pablo was a fan of DIM not nacional.
Hello ! Thanks for watching. Yes indeed, Escobar's is favourite club was DIM, but, as I said in the video, Maturana claimed that Pablo put money into Atletico Nacional to help win the Copa Libertadores. Escobar did not take a public role, and the claims have never been proven, but, that's what the video is about. Thanks again for watching.
Please check out some of my other videos and let me know what you think.
Where are you from and what's your favourite team ?
If you have an idea and would like to see a video about it, let me know and I'll be glad to make one.
All the best to you !
@@Golimetry Pablo simplemente no pudo comprar la clasificación para la Supercopa contra el SPFC en 1993🔴⚪⚫
No
Hello mate. I like your mathematics videos ! I remember some excellent mathematics via great lessons similar to yours, when I was at Uni (both from lecturers and other channels on CZcams.
Also I like your shirt in the most recebt video - an Australian flag, my own country.
Could you explain what you mean with your comment ? Do you dislike this video ? And if so, why ? I certainly mean no harm or disrespect to Atletico fans or Colombians. Basically I just want to tell an interesting story. All my videos are based on the principle of telling interesting stories about the Copa Libertadores.
Cheers mate and all the best.
@@Golimetry G'day mate! You've just made me remember my days back in Oz.
About my "no", I was answering to the question of the video's title. Many things have been said but with no final conclusion, so briefly: Did Pablo buy the Copa Libertadores? - No...
Thanks for your comments about my videos. Do you have in mind making more videos about Colombian issues?
@@omarnaranjo8930 Hola Omar. Buenas días.
Thanks for the comment mate. I understand what you mean. I don't know either way, if he influenced it or not. I think, as shown in the video, Fransisco Maturana's comment (saying it is impossible to prove either way, whether Pablo had a hand in the 1989 Copa), is quite true.
I certainly had no intention to attack or disrespect Nacional in this video and I have no agenda as to Escobar's influence - I just thought it was an interesting story and worth telling. I aimed to show both sides and ensure that the video told a good story but was even-handed.
Did you enjoy the video ? I would love to hear any feedback or comments you might have about this, or any other of my videos.
My goal is to tell stories about the Copa Libertadores - and I would love if more English and European fans, were able to use my videos to understand the beauty and wonder, the passion of the Copa Libertadores. I equally enjoy and appreciate all the comments and views of those from Spain, Mexico, Central America and South America, because they help me learn and are informative and useful. I've learned a huge amount in the process of telling these stories.
@@omarnaranjo8930 As to your question about making more videos about Colombian issues, yep, I absolutely will.
In fact, another viewer suggested I should make a video about the incredible victory of Once Caldas in the Copa Libertadores in 2004. That will be one of my next videos (I have one already made and ready to go, and another still waiting to be finished, then I will do the Once Caldas video).
If you have any ideas or suggestions, I absolutely am interested and would appreciate those suggestions immensely.
Finally: awesome to hear you came to Australia mate ! I hope you enjoyed it ! Whereabouts did you visit ? I really really hope you got to see my area (South Coast of NSW), because the beaches here are some of the beat in the world and certainly the best in the country - in terms of beauty and also surfing.
We have dolphins, blue whales, an abundance of wildlife, great bushwalks and hikes..I love living here and I hope you got to see it.
If you ever visit again, don't hesitate to let me know and I'd be happy to find some cool places for you to see, and hang out.
It is my dream to visit Colombia to be honest - such a fascinating and wonderful country. I would also love to visit every nation in South America, but I would start with Colombia !
Cheers mate and take it easy ! And your mathematics videos, once again, are really good.
Somos grandes lloren 😈
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