No critique - no matter how constructive or pragmatic , can be properly given without citations and credits to the filmmakers: No Disrespect (2023) - Dir. Miles Tripplett | Maverick Entertainment Tiffany the Doll (2020) - Dir. Felicia Rivers | Maverick Entertainment Single Man Problems: Volume One (2023) - Dir. Bobby Ashley & Robert McCullough | Bobby Ashley Productions My Side Piece (2016) - Dir. Dewey Allen | GYOP Sloppy Seconds (2023) - Dir. Lisa Brown | Plush Productions PPP Loan Gone (2022) - Dir. Devon Bray | Bray Films Movies
Great premise, but @21:24 why are you lowering the bar for professionalism in Black filmmaking? You don't need a large budget to compose shots with headroom, mic scenes appropriately or perform ADR, or to light the scene to a proper camera exposure. Suspension of disbelief is a major component of filmmaking. We should not expect consumers of indie content to accept lower standards for Brown filmmakers... we should hold Brown filmmakers accountable
Black elder here, growing up I loved these films. Thank you, you said what is not said anymore. In the 1970s, Hollywood was in free fall. The film industry was losing huge revenue. The black films that were dubbed Blaxploitation saved Hollywood because they brought audiences back to the theaters. Thank you for saying this!!! It is NEVER said anymore, and it is American History! I ❤ LOVE your research. As a retired college instructor of media studies, you make me proud.😊
"Black Elder", for a person who has made claims to remember Hollywood back in the 70's, you left out a key reason why "Hollywood was in a free fall", and that was due to the global economic crash of the early 70's, that affected every and all industry from motion pictures, automaking, toy production, food, and everything else. Hollywood studios were downsizing and going out of business left and right, with a few who saw the Black dollars as their last hope of survival. And with those studios, also came investors, editors, set hands, and other experienced people who understood how movies were made behind the camera. Black and White actors and actresses were willing to do movies they wouldn't had done back in the 60's, to include those thespian and even Shakespearean trained, be it here in the US, Canada, and the UK, because though the pay were low, it was a paycheck. Hence the reason why James Earl Jones was not worried about points and acting credits for his contribution in the movie, Star Wars. He needed the money, and as he has mentioned, "to buy a house, and a car", because paying acting gigs were far and few between. The Black genre of 70's movies did not bring people back to the theaters, the movies brought to the theaters an audience that were only going to see a limited number of movies, because most characters and storytelling did not reflect a world, they were familiar with.
@@thespadestable There's a way you can make an addendum...without making an aggressive/snarky opening sentence...towards a stranger in a CZcams comment section....on a video with the theme of [ironically] "Black improvement/ improvement/unity/mobilization"😒
@@2conscious - Amazing. Nowhere in your rebuttal did you mention anything about my rebuttal to 88bombshell was incorrect. Lastly, this game of revisualizing the past does nothing for "Black improvement/ improvement/unity/mobilization". People just making stuff up as they go all in the name of trying to sound intelligent within the drone hive mind think tank.
Tubi seems like it wants to become "Lifetime for black people". And just like Lifetime, if you seen one of their movies, you've basically seen them all.
Lifetime is low key a horror movie network since damn near all those plots are the same abusive man and or crazy woman versus the normal woman that deserved better. Shit, Tubi's better than that at lease. It feels like BET back in the day without the back to back Baby Boy showings.
It’s NOT that they’re low budget, they LOOK low budget!!! Can WE edit properly and achieve better scripts??? Even blaxploitation films looked like FILMS!!! These TUBI hood movies look like iPhone videos. This is a PROBLEM!!! Fix it….That is all.
The directors have a right to make a movie and tell their version of a story. The platform is here that didn't exist years ago where you can get around Hollywood who has to green light a film project, but it's too many self hating movies on Tubi. It's either a drug selling or drug using theme or a so called love triangle when the women who wants the man who is in illegal gremlin activity. Modern day minstrel shows
Independent filmmakers today have access to professional industry standard equipment, lots of it completely affordable for anybody, and some of it even free (Davinci Resolve for example ). There is no reason for a low budget film to “look” low budget i.e. bad sound, lighting, etc. Now it’s really a matter of independent young filmmakers to get serious in learning their craft.
My mom tends to watch these tubi movies quite a bit. I caught a bit of it and what I saw slayed me. So this one film has an establishing shot of a beach with condos and it had getty images water mark in full display.
@christophergallimore5529 i know it sounds wild. But by the time I saw that, I stared at my mom just to subtly judge her taste in anything or her lack to see the cheapness on screen.
You lyin????? That's the problem. There's just no talented people making these low budget movies and getting a platform which ruins it for the people who actually try to make a good movie. The fact that people are saying Tyler Perry movies need to be on Tubi because the stories are so Bad tells you something. Not everybody's a surgeon just like not everybody's a filmmaker no matter how accessible the equipment is. And the equipment is pretty cheap nowadays even with an iPhone you can make quality equipment if you know how to light, if you know how to compose, if you know what to put into the frame and what not to, if you know how to use audio to tell the story, I mean how you can get a color program da Vinci resolved for free so there's definitely no excuse to not be able to make a high-quality looking movie on a zero budget. The reason why it looks so crappy is because you have uneducated non-filmmakers who don't take the time to really understand storytelling, and filmmaking. Wouldn't catch me watching the TV movie unless there was a gun in my head. And somebody said to be doing this to establish themselves and then they're gonna drop everybody and they will. Just like Netflix they'll get as many shows as they need to but then They'll stop taking movies from anybody and they drop all the ones to try to revamp themselves and I guarantee you it'll become a white platform and no longer support the black voice. And Maverick Entertainment has been horrible since it's creation.
The other main thing about early blaxploitation was the music. You had Issac Hayes, James Brown, Curtis Mayfield, etc. doing these amazing soundtracks that are held up as actual studio albums to the rest of their discography. That was in itself I feel a huge part of the success.
A PSA for all the creative black people out there: I know financing your projects is tough, and hoping for an audience to magically appear and peep your work is tougher, but please don't lose hope. Our community needs black anime, superhero movies, martial arts flicks, space operas, etc. And not just movies. We need to stop signing our young musical artists under hollywood and create our own independent labels, so we can take one step closer towards true freedom. We can create our own hollywood. We can rebuild our communities to their former glory. But we need to take a risk and trust each other. Yeah I know, that's a cardinal sin within the black community, but we have to try 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
no offense but truthfully please keep far away from anime if you have no understanding of what and why makes it popular in japan and other international countries outside USA, if ya'll don't know how to make proper hot & sexy women then don't attempt it please.
THIS VIDEO is so insightful. I recently got one of my projects platformed on Tubi because I saw the seemingly low barrier to entry and the growing landscape of African American story tellers. My brother and I love sci-fi and want to put more African American and diverse faces in those spaces but understand the budgetary limitations that could cause such projects to end up looking low budget and 'laughable". This, in turn, is why we as filmmakers must focus very intently on writing, cinematography, lighting, acting and visual effects. It's not just the budget but our understanding of how to use the film medium in more inventive ways, how to truly learn the tools we have available and how to build upon the medium. This video is a touches on a specific topic I think we as a community could talk even more about then we are. Thank you for such a great video Pillboy! Support up and coming black filmmakers!
I'm just always stunned that some Black people continue to push forward and promote media that is so harmful to us. The majority of people get their information and bias about Black people from media, and its like we're helping them make a case of why we're treated badly and "why we deserve it". We have to stop falling for this crap. We move the world and if we tried, if we stopped promoting stereotypes we could really make moves.
Honestly it blows my mind to think that the entertainment landscape today is so reminiscent of the 1970s… Which I think is great because I love me some weird, experimental stuff, but also horribly sad that we can’t learn from our mistakes.
totally agree. My favorite thing is that the 70s were full of weird, grimy, experimental, artsy films. It was awesome, but also was equally a vial ploy to exploit and make money. That same thing is happening now. Just with the added bonus of Hollywood also churning out more un creative, repetitive schlock than ever. I hope things are changing. I hope things are getting more creative and I hope that real, good, interesting indie filmmaking and overthrow the vampiric Hollywood regime with it
@@studiopillboy our film follows a self conscious gay black man trying to find love in NYC. So while our clip went viral all over social media, the film dives deeper into that. One of which is discussing about Prep/Safe Sex/HIV.
@@schizofrenzia1884 soon. We’re in the middle of rewriting the script while simultaneously trying to secure funding. So the more people watch, it’ll help in funding part 2.
You had me when you started the video with my favorite Rage Racer music. And yes, Tubi movies show black people doing 3 things: screwing, suffering, and dying.
This is a “culture” issue…remember these folks could have made ANYTHING and they CHOSE to make these BS films….it isn’t anyone’s fault but their OWN. 🤷🏽 until the culture holds the culture accountable we will continue to see this BS.
That’s right, great “uncultured” one! You have laid down law once again in the profound comment section of CZcams. There has never been nor will be another like you! One of pale skin in the space of melanated people discussing nonsensical shit. Bravo!🎉
Thank you for showing Melvin Van Peebles in this. Dude deserves so much credit and praise for his work outside of Sweetback. His debut film The Story of a Three Day Pass is one of the best debut films I've ever seen and Don't Play Us Cheap is an awesome musical.
i've been using Tubi a lot more Because i've noticed how much more accessible it appeared for POC filmmakers and lower budget films, so when i saw this on my recommended i had to give it a watch. not even halfway thru and just wanted to commend you for the great work, i can see the time and care you put into the research and the production of this vid!!
It’s important to note that off the success of sweetback, Melvin Van Peebles was hired by Columbia to direct the film “Watermelon Man” after the script was brought to them by the writer Herman Raucher
Herman Raucher wrote Watermelon Man (1970), not Sweetback. Columbia brought Van Peebles on to direct a three film contract in which Watermelon Man was part of. Sweetback wasn’t written until after Peebles broke his contract with Columbia. While Raucher’s ideas were used in inspiration for Sweetback, he wasn’t the writer. One of the reasons Sweetback was created was due to Peeble’s and Raucher’s disagreements with the less satirical Black Power messages that Peebles wanted to implement in Watermelon Man.
-It’s never _easy_ to make a film. - I’d I like to see the film making journey/background of the people behind these productions - It’s ALL ABOUT THE WRITING. -Imho these projects aren’t influenced by cinema & literature. They’re influenced by hip hop, social media, & shows like Power. What you put in, is what you get out.
I believe Tubi right now is using these movies to establish itself. Once that happens, it's going to start charging and then drop a lot of these movies. It'll go the way of UPN and the WB. FOX also knows how to get the black audience. They had Martin, Living Single and In Living Color.
I’m the black creative friend. I’m currently working on a story called “Android 24”. It stars two black androids as super heroes and is set in a futuristic 1950’s type city. My plan for getting it on screen is to turn it into a comic and pitch it to big comic publishers like Image comics and dark horse (by the way they’re accepting submissions for anyone who’s interested). Once it gets picked up and runs for a few issues I can try getting the black community behind it to get it made into a show. Animated if possible.
the issue is a lot of these movies are being made by former “street dudes” they’re the ones with the money. These films resonate with them so until you can fund these films not much will change
As long as the people support it, it will continue. I know more people that have seen Shottas than Moonlight. Saying "make the movies we wanna see" is exactly what's happening. Time to acknowledge that it's not a "them pushing the narrative", but us being entertained by the minstrelsy.
Pretty much, if people don't like that kinda stuff.. don't watch it. But this is what people want nowadays. I thought it was going to be like black dynamite. But the movies he showed was like that 😅
I agree doesn’t need top tier lens but perspective is essential people just walking in front of a camera without paying attention to balancing the scene ! This why Stanley Kubrick was a g he spent so much time making sure every frame was right but that’s the benefit of learning photography before hoping into filmmaking
Exactly! No one says the same about music. “Oh this guy is an indie singer so it’s ok if his songs don’t sound good”. Like no. Movies are a visual media, they need to look good.
All commentary aside, I love the stylization of this channel. I wasn’t even gonna watch this just listen but then I got captivated by the visuals. U definitely gonna blow up soon bro.
There is a major lack of Film Education behind a lot of these Black Tubi movies. Indie films won't always look like high budget films but you can see who studies and who just picks up a camera and presses record. There's so much that's goes into Filmmaking that people don't take the time to learn. Pre-Production, Script writing, Character development, Acting Coaching, Audio Production, Cinematography, Post Production. Everyone in the Film Industry starts from somewhere but there should be a progression in your work. Just because you put out multiple films that doesn't mean the QUALITY of your work has improved. A lot of people just want to be seen and have their name out there but your (good quality) work should speak for itself! I appreciate you doing this video. It's a conversation that's needed!
This is extremely well done. Editing, pacing, clear ideas of what you're saying, good use of specific examples. I will check out the rest of your stuff on the strength of this. Keep it up!
There's a lot of indie film makers that don't want to build together trying to get into Hollywood, that's what i am seeing lately though. I am open to creating something outside some hood movies.
The fight will never end. There will always be racist people & fools. But it's better then the 1950's. But it can be a ton better 😢 little by little bro. Look how far the LGBT community came. Other groups too
Let's be real no one forces these directors to make these types of movies. Everyone's gotta eat but it's the individuals that decide what they'll sacrifice to get to the table
I get it’s only been one day as of writing this comment, but this video should be talked about way more. You make some great points in the video, showcasing Tubi content in a light that I haven’t really thought of before as someone who’s only ever heard of the app. I’m looking forward to whatever you put out next and I will be sharing this one with my brother, who is an aspiring film director, to hear his thoughts on the matter. Great video, Pillboy!
How do you only have 3K subs? This is a hidden gem of a channel! I'm a film student, and I appreciate you citing the films you reviewed. Blaxploitation has also been a guilty pleasure of mine ever since I was a kid, I grew up with Dolemite and Human Tornado, as well as Grier's Sheeba Baby. I'm really looking forward to more content from you, and I genuinely hope you continue examining media like this more!
As Tubi movies have boomed, there have been creators that have subverted and satirized the form, even from within it. I think it's unfortunate that you singled out PPP Loan Gone, because that movie is very self-aware, and actually a smart and funny satire of the Black Tubi genre, and fairly well made for an amateur film. I also think Felicia Rivers, who directed Tiffany the Doll, deserves some props for a lot of creative fantasy-based stories, and she's growing and learning as a filmmaker. Yes, they're still very amateur but the creativity comes through. I think you're displaying a double standard when contrasting these completely amateur, outsider films with the works of people like Spike Lee, who went to college for filmmaking, or Melvin Van Peebles, who was a professional novelist and writer in three languages before he ever made a movie. Even the Hughes Brothers who were closer to real outsiders had a $3 million budget and a whole Hollywood crew and system behind them thanks to their connections to hip-hop artists. Outsider art has to be considered in that context. Inexperienced creators often lean on the tropes of the media they consume, but it's disrespectful to call this minstrelsy rather than what it is: a totally untrained filmmaker with no access to the system making an earnest attempt to tell a good story in the only way they know how. Now we could say more about how Tubi promotes these movies or what the people who consume them are taking away from them, but that's another story.
Oh, I guess there was only one chance to complain, back in the 1970s, and now people aren't allowed, even if they weren't even alive to complain back then.
There were blaxploitation films being released in the eighties and nineties as well. When I lived in the Bronx, New York back in the nineties, there was a huge record store on Fordham Road that had a whole section for these types of movies. Don't ask me what the name of those movies were, because (to the best of my memory) I never bought any of them. I'm sure they all went straight to video/DVD.
Love this! Can’t believe you don’t have more subs, you content is so good. The animation combined with insightful commentary is lovely. Can’t wait to see more from you in future!
Great video, im vary interested in how toxic representation moves forward slowly but eventually for real representation and how we can enjoy such things even if toxic as long as we're aware of what's happened to get us here.
This is an excellent essay and critique. I’ve been deep in Blaxploitation and more mainstream black film pretty intensely ever since I say Sweetback on Criterion Channel a few years ago. Watching a ton of old Blaxploitation on TUBI has the algorithm recommending a lot of the films you mention here and I find them unwatchable. I’ve introduced my nephews to the brighter gems of Blaxploitation films and that led us to watching (and me rewatching) the films of Melvin Van Peebles and Spike Lee. There’s no reason black film, or any kind of film can’t be good. There just has to be an insistence on quality storytelling and execution. TUBI could be a vehicle for film renaissance across genre…but filmmakers and audiences have to vote with their feet and support everyone putting our best foot forward. Sharing this video.
While it's neither a Tubi movie or an inde film, All Black people NEED to give a look at The Book of Clarence. Even if you have a hard time jiving with its slightly disjointed narrative and its mix of biblical and post-modern sensibilities, there's something so beautiful about seeing a movie that's unfettered of the hold of the Hollywood machine that tells a sprawling story of an ALL BLACK Jerusalem with a star studded BLACK CAST about a non believer finding belief in the miracles of a BLACK JESUS. Despite all its flaws, The Book of Clarence is a unique Black film that doesn't want to fixate on showing us as savage, but as movers, shakers, would-be kings and the daughters and sons (literally) of God...all with a touch of comedy and a fire-ass soundtrack.
Eh, maybe it's because I'm a history buff, but to me any movie set in ancient Palestine/Israel should just cast actual Palestinians and Jews, since it was their people who lived there (especially nowadays, when Palestine needs more solidarity than ever). Otherwise to me it's no different than casting a bunch of English and Irish guys for a samurai film.
I was saying,"Why don't you go make a movie bro?" Then you make the same proposition at the end. That's kind of a dumb argument. That's like, critiquing music then someone says "Where is your music?" you're probably not a film maker and probably harder than it looks. Idk why I was trying to denote your critique.
To be fair every journey begins with a single step. A lot of the bad movies on Tubi are going to be the result of new creators. And that is perfectly good also not every Movie has to be great. I think a lot of people could probably be filmmakers nowadays. There are so many people who do cosplay that would only need two other people to help out and then you have the makings of at least one short film. some movies you could make really wouldn’t even require that much costuming or props. in fact horror movies can be made shockingly cheaply
One example of a small subgroup within your ranks that deals devastating blows to the progression of the unit as a whole is the group of filmmakers who write, produce, and direct these hood movies centered around hip-hop, criminality, and strippers. Another example is the flesh-eating gangs in Haiti.
Tubi has a library of old Hispanic movies from the 1970’ and 1980’. I think they have whole movie Catalogue of Vicente Fernandez. A big fyi is that tubi is owned by Amazon
Tubi is actually owned by the Fox Corporation. Not the 20th Century Fox owned by Disney, but the Murdoch owned remainer. Plus Amazon Prime Video actually cut down on carrying these movies since the filmmakers can't even get the sales agents interested that Amazon Prime or Netflix uses.
@@matthewprince9705 my bad at the time I was thinking about freevee witch is owned by Amazon. The new update on tubi made the logo purple and yellow hence the mixup
Tubi is owned by Fox. Look up how Fox network started, it's the same thing they're doing now. Eventually there will not be any poc content. Look it up, Fox in the 90s had damn near all black shows. You see what they got now.
Bro, you’ve got a great style. It’s so fresh feeling and the animation is a great touch. Earned a sub from me before the first five minutes. Keep at it man
It's about time that today's Independent Black filmmakers can get their films showcased on a much larger streaming platform in the 21st century and make some money as well in the process, and keep in mind it's already extremely difficult trying to get real exposure for independent black filmmakers in general. Black filmmakers need to continue to grow their craft and Trailblaze in the film industry business, "By Any Means Necessary"!✊✊✊
Brotha you have to do a piece on Zeus network, my god talk about black exploitation mixed with a little degenerate power tripping ppl and maniacal behavior. It’s 20 times worse than Tubi. It makes you feel like there’s no hop left for us. Granted all of the shows on there are “Reality TV shows”.
The word Blaxploitation was put out there to to make black movies less then what they are and a lot of people fell hook line and sinker for the word but never started a movement for the end of the N word in movies .
This was an insanely good and interesting video, didn't expect to check the views and only see it's at 8k views, i rarely if ever make comments like this but this genuinely was one of the few videos i've watched in like ages that genuinely kept my attention all the way through, insanely good
If you're black and you don't act, talk, or do things a certain way, you are called names or shunned, so we put ourselves in a box before anyone else does
Finally someone said it. Capitalism absolutely looooves to capitalize off of not only hate, but the illusion of progress while still making sure real progress stays in the gutter. I mean it’s true for black films but for other films even criticizing Hollywood and big systems in general. I had a weird feeling at the bottom of my stomach thinking about how something like The Boys was being produced under Amazon, as if they were saying “yeah see? Aren’t huge corporations that try to pretend to do good while being corrupt absolutely awful? We’re not like those corporations! We’re different. We’re amazon” Actual progress doesn’t start with a black square, it starts with direct conversation and action. I don’t know, I feel like I’m envisioning Tubi to be like [as] except with creative insane movies, comedy like no other and heart like no other. Start getting to work, because come 2025, we’re gonna need something for history to look back on!
Roc was damned interesting! I forget about that show most of the time but we loved it while it was on. The live episode was one of my all-time favorite television moments as a teenager.
@@nerfytheclown yes the live shows are the best, that cast was some high talented people kinda trapped playing the stereotype but trying everything in their power to change the game.
@@gamecitysavior2910 yuh...you could feel the seething, see it behind their eyes. They were the inheritors of the terrible situations that you could see with, for example; Good Times. (Or: "how to sell out an entire people to the Spirit of self-worship). You seem like you would enjoy brother Ron's take...check out TruthUnedited and his recent series on how we got here with the TV. I think so far it's my favorite (and very much an American-black-dude's perspective) take on the twentieth century takeover of our minds. Cheers!
Do you honestly think people “poured their souls” into the movies people make fun of on Tubi? Look how many videos there are about “I made a lot of money making Tubi movies”. These are intentionally made cheaply and quickly without regard to script or production value but with complete regard to getting something on Tubi and cashing out. If Tubi started monetarily rewarding filmmakers for higher quality content - then that’s when you will see better, more soul-poured films. Money is the incentive here not art are any kind of movement.
Great video man. I love all the historical context and background given. love the nuanced analysis of both blaxploitation and tubi films and how things could be improved upon. This is the type of film analysis I live for!
While I agree with the overwhelming portion of your analysis, I'm really surprised you left out one central element; namely, consumer demand. Yes, there is a marketing bias. Yes, we don't control the algorithm. Yes, we need to hold the "drug dealer" accountable. But as long as there is a demand, there will be a supplier. As you stated in your commentary, I'm also not trying to "police" Black viewing habits nor surrender to respect ability politics. But as long as audiences are thrilled by sex and sadoism, it will continue to get produced and shown.
Shaft was the best Blaxploitation film. It is just a great movie that still holds up honestly. Coffy is really great as well. Pam Grier is a great actor as she showed later on. See Jackie Brown for example
I think "Black Cinema" is going global and African film & music is taking over as Black American culture declines. Black American (and Caribbean too) culture has been in decline since the late 2000s and Africa has stepped to fill the void. Hip Hop and Dance Hall degeneracy- people worldwide are sick of it. More people than ever (including Black Americans) are watching Nigeria's "Nollywood" films and tv dramas (which have come a long way!) and listening to Afro-Pop (Burna Boy, Ayra Starr, Whiz Kid, Rema). We need to start collaborating with Africans and Afro-Latins because this is the future of the Black culture- the Afro-Future. Wake up, Black people!!
That was satire on blaxploitation tho. Showing the absurdity of it all. It wasn’t meant to be taking seriously, like the original blaxploitation films.
I really enjoyed this video. You make a valid point that we need to give smaller budget writers/directors a chance. Tubi movies can be interesting and non-stereotypical. I watched Cinnamon (2023) the other day. I had a good time! Damon Wayans was there. Pam Grier too! Their characters were fun and the protagonist was a black girl who just wanted to sing. This movie did have violence and family dysfunction but it was also very sweet and entertaining. If Tubi made more films like that, I would definitely support the platform. Thank you for sharing your video. Your animation style is 🔥
Omg! This topic been in my mind.... even the sweetback coverage (that film is WILD).... this video is ridiculously well done 😃😃😃 content, style of editing, these beats..... let me subscribe now 🎉🎉🎉🎉
At this point Tyler Perry movies such as Tubi movies have become more of a spectacle rather than cinema. Akin a freak circus show snake to Sharknado. We don’t watch these movies for cinema, but rather for commentary and to talk shit about them. The poor quality the movie the better the laughs, jokes, and comedic takeaways. SharkNado walked so that Tyler Perry and Tubi could run ! The sad thing is that we now have platforms to make quality movies but choose to follow the herd mentality pact
Tubi can only show what the film makers give them the film makers write produce and direct these films it's up to them to tell different stories of the black experience but lets Keep it a buck they want to make hood movies centered around hip hop criminality & strippers in these movies but beyond that Tubi always shows plenty of classic TV Shows and Movies
For real. Tubi is only a platform. It not Tubi then people would post their original works on some other site. Nobody's forcing black folk to make hood dramas and crime movies.
@@BroWitGlasses8008exactly I get this guy that runs this channel wants to see better films but he falls to realize the ones making these films are not interested in any of the things he is talking about they want to tell hood tales
@@jamesdoe2139 stop being stupid if our people wanted to create movie's about us going to school graduating and working a 9 to 5 living a regular life they could create that but that's not where these creators of these movies are at nobody is forcing them to make these kinds of films they choose too when we stop blaming other's and look at ourselves w/ self reflection then things will change until then we'll keep getting the same hood stories
@BKLYN_TZU Tubi doesn't have to put even 1 of those movies up there. Also they actively promote the bullshit. Lastly, if a couple of Brown people even just appeared to gain popularity making movies about going to school, then school movies would have an explosion in the Brown community. It's the silly view of what's wrong with the Brown community, and the lack of respect for people to make whatever content they want without your silly judgement... that makes it hard to communicate with the minds we're trying to change.
Really good video! I agree with 99% of what you said! We definitely should focus on the content and writing of the films rather than production. But the one point I disagree with is that these filmmakers are incapable of making their films look better. Like you mentioned, equipment is a lot more affordable and accessible these days. It’s not cheap, but it’s affordable. I currently work at a restaurant and I funded a film of my own using top notch equipment, and I hired a crew that knew what they were doing, which works wonders. While the content is the main problem, it also irritates me when people who claim to be filmmakers don’t go the extra mile to make their film look better. Because they’re either too lazy or they don’t want to take the leap of faith of putting large amounts of their own money into their project. If you believe in your project, you have to be all in. It might not look like a Hollywood production, but they could definitely look better
The TUBI films and the original Blaxploitation flicks are both, like anything else, a MIXTURE of good and crappy films. Some of them take themselves seriously and are very strong production efforts with engaging characters and themes, good storytelling and exciting plots. Then there are others that make you wonder if they were ever meant to be taken seriously at all. The original Blaxploitation films, as you stated, mostly began with a genuine effort to allow black creators and directors to bring their visions to a mainstream audience; and good or bad, the blaxploitation era of the 70s did have much historical and symbolic significance to black viewers. Some of the TUBI films do put forth some serious production effort, some of them managing to snag legit black actors that we don't see much in the mainstream. But as many in the comments section have stated, cheap-looking productions that are weak and laughable also get thrown into the mix. Those of us who grew up in the 70s though will probably always have a sweet spot for the original era of blaxploitation flicks. We will never forget the larger-than-life presence of Richard Roundtree, Fred Williamson, Jim Brown, Pam Greer, Jim Kelly, Ron Oneal, William Marshall, etc...
Right on young brother... TUBI is using our current condition and taking advantage of street ghetto life that's negative. Blaxploitation had meaning and heart... not this crap .
I don't watch any of that stuff while on Tubi, and I still don't understand how anyone else does. I use Tubi to watch obscure Action and Horror Films from back in the day.
Great premise, but why are you lowering the bar for professionalism in Black filmmaking? You don't need a large budget to compose shots with headroom, mic scenes appropriately or perform ADR, or to light the scene to a proper camera exposure. Suspension of disbelief is a major component of filmmaking. We should not expect consumers of indie content to accept lower standards for Brown filmmakers... we should hold Brown filmmakers accountable
Thay was - actually really cool. Listenning to this video almost felt like i was following along a Cobow Bebop episode. Also, great job with the graphics.
Ok. . . You don't have to call them "hood movies". How about "Ghetto Budget, Ratchet Stories." Basic and cheap movies made about low hanging fruit as disposable content. Terribly made, and Terribly written. . .
I think a space not explored enough by black people and have a chance of more control over their properties and art is game development. It hasn’t been as easy as it has been to get into it, it still incorporates multiple art forms like music, visuals, etc. I hope that changes in the future
Financial support is the biggest issue for indie filmmakers. Just finished producing our first short film and are currently looking for investors/funds for our Black girlhood coming of age film. If we invest in the films we want to see, Tubi can truly be a Black film renaissance.
Tubi has a ridiculously large library of content. Some of it amazing and can’t be found on other platforms. Even though the commercial breaks aren’t very long, I’d pay for an ad free version. Bless you Tubi 🙌🏼
I am outside the target audience, being a white person, but the fact is how we interact with any black content has been...well, bad to avoid sugar coating it. Very bad. I'm a millennial, but i refuse to engage in self congratulations. We spent of our teenaged and young adult years watching the boondocks and chappelles show with not much going on than "black people funee", which would explain how deeply entrenched digital minstrelsy is in the world of online memes. The bitter irony is that we imagined that we imagined ourselves to be better, that our satirical intent would prevent unironic racists from weaponizing...or that it was the internet and therefore not real. Pools closed wasn't funny then and it isn't funny now. Which brings us back to blaxploitation. I admit my introduction to it, and exploitation movies generally, was through Tarantino. While his love of blaxsploitation is sincere (Jackie Brown is an objectively good homage and tribute imo), I am of the conclusion that his all hands in approach is going to have to fade away. Instead of memefication and clumsy participation, we should fade into the background. These works aren't made for us, and should be watched with our brains turned on. Any support we give should be anonymous, indirect, and for the most part silent. I dunno i am just rambling now
I think these are good ideas but ultimately expect too much of people that are at the end of the day just people. Creative stuff is so ego driven I do not think anyone in the future is going to subvert their own creative vision so as to not step on anyone’s toes. White people are just people and because of that you can’t expect too much of them. They will rise and fall to whatever expectations are set by their own elites. And they will do whatever they can get away with just like anyone else
No critique - no matter how constructive or pragmatic , can be properly given without citations and credits to the filmmakers:
No Disrespect (2023) - Dir. Miles Tripplett | Maverick Entertainment
Tiffany the Doll (2020) - Dir. Felicia Rivers | Maverick Entertainment
Single Man Problems: Volume One (2023) - Dir. Bobby Ashley & Robert McCullough | Bobby Ashley Productions
My Side Piece (2016) - Dir. Dewey Allen | GYOP
Sloppy Seconds (2023) - Dir. Lisa Brown | Plush Productions
PPP Loan Gone (2022) - Dir. Devon Bray | Bray Films Movies
Great premise, but @21:24 why are you lowering the bar for professionalism in Black filmmaking?
You don't need a large budget to compose shots with headroom, mic scenes appropriately or perform ADR, or to light the scene to a proper camera exposure.
Suspension of disbelief is a major component of filmmaking. We should not expect consumers of indie content to accept lower standards for Brown filmmakers... we should hold Brown filmmakers accountable
Hollywood is pretty white*
Only so long as you consider Jewish people white...
@@jamesdoe2139 imo you're misconstruing "black/brown filmmakers" and "severely independent"
"hold brown filmmakers accountable" just comes off so weird to me. damn let a dude make a movie it's kinda fun
Also his whole family was connected with Hollywood he comes from a family of actors that also helped
Black elder here, growing up I loved these films. Thank you, you said what is not said anymore. In the 1970s, Hollywood was in free fall. The film industry was losing huge revenue. The black films that were dubbed Blaxploitation saved Hollywood because they brought audiences back to the theaters. Thank you for saying this!!! It is NEVER said anymore, and it is American History! I ❤ LOVE your research. As a retired college instructor of media studies, you make me proud.😊
*dap my brother
"Black Elder", for a person who has made claims to remember Hollywood back in the 70's, you left out a key reason why "Hollywood was in a free fall", and that was due to the global economic crash of the early 70's, that affected every and all industry from motion pictures, automaking, toy production, food, and everything else. Hollywood studios were downsizing and going out of business left and right, with a few who saw the Black dollars as their last hope of survival. And with those studios, also came investors, editors, set hands, and other experienced people who understood how movies were made behind the camera.
Black and White actors and actresses were willing to do movies they wouldn't had done back in the 60's, to include those thespian and even Shakespearean trained, be it here in the US, Canada, and the UK, because though the pay were low, it was a paycheck. Hence the reason why James Earl Jones was not worried about points and acting credits for his contribution in the movie, Star Wars. He needed the money, and as he has mentioned, "to buy a house, and a car", because paying acting gigs were far and few between.
The Black genre of 70's movies did not bring people back to the theaters, the movies brought to the theaters an audience that were only going to see a limited number of movies, because most characters and storytelling did not reflect a world, they were familiar with.
@@thespadestable There's a way you can make an addendum...without making an aggressive/snarky opening sentence...towards a stranger in a CZcams comment section....on a video with the theme of [ironically] "Black improvement/ improvement/unity/mobilization"😒
@@2conscious -
Amazing. Nowhere in your rebuttal did you mention anything about my rebuttal to 88bombshell was incorrect.
Lastly, this game of revisualizing the past does nothing for "Black improvement/ improvement/unity/mobilization". People just making stuff up as they go all in the name of trying to sound intelligent within the drone hive mind think tank.
@@thespadestableholy yap
“The Rat falls for the trap because it doesn’t understand why the cheese is free.”
“The kettle is calling the pot black.”
This one made me pause the video and think😂😂
I was about to quote this too. ✊🏾💚
Facts
Social media, in a nutshell
Tubi seems like it wants to become "Lifetime for black people". And just like Lifetime, if you seen one of their movies, you've basically seen them all.
Lifetime is low key a horror movie network since damn near all those plots are the same abusive man and or crazy woman versus the normal woman that deserved better. Shit, Tubi's better than that at lease. It feels like BET back in the day without the back to back Baby Boy showings.
Nah
In the 90s, Lifetime films were actually high quality. Relatively speaking.
@@martinl7612 90s everything was just a step above what we get now.
wow what a great example. being black with a mom who loves Lifetime, this hit lololol
It’s NOT that they’re low budget, they LOOK low budget!!! Can WE edit properly and achieve better scripts??? Even blaxploitation films looked like FILMS!!! These TUBI hood movies look like iPhone videos. This is a PROBLEM!!! Fix it….That is all.
I'd prefer a low budget looking movie that was original and had something to say over a well produced one pushing the same BS
@@deionroulhac3245 and that also becomes a problem when the low budget movies do nothing to innovate which is essentially the Tubi problem imo
The directors have a right to make a movie and tell their version of a story. The platform is here that didn't exist years ago where you can get around Hollywood who has to green light a film project, but it's too many self hating movies on Tubi. It's either a drug selling or drug using theme or a so called love triangle when the women who wants the man who is in illegal gremlin activity. Modern day minstrel shows
Independent filmmakers today have access to professional industry standard equipment, lots of it completely affordable for anybody, and some of it even free (Davinci Resolve for example ). There is no reason for a low budget film to “look” low budget i.e. bad sound, lighting, etc. Now it’s really a matter of independent young filmmakers to get serious in learning their craft.
It’s ppl in times square in New York with better camera work. It’s strictly unacceptable that those movies look like that
My mom tends to watch these tubi movies quite a bit. I caught a bit of it and what I saw slayed me. So this one film has an establishing shot of a beach with condos and it had getty images water mark in full display.
🤣🤣🤣
nah you lying...😅
😂
@christophergallimore5529 i know it sounds wild. But by the time I saw that, I stared at my mom just to subtly judge her taste in anything or her lack to see the cheapness on screen.
Oh hell nah! 😂 Nah, that’s just wrong
You lyin????? That's the problem. There's just no talented people making these low budget movies and getting a platform which ruins it for the people who actually try to make a good movie. The fact that people are saying Tyler Perry movies need to be on Tubi because the stories are so Bad tells you something. Not everybody's a surgeon just like not everybody's a filmmaker no matter how accessible the equipment is. And the equipment is pretty cheap nowadays even with an iPhone you can make quality equipment if you know how to light, if you know how to compose, if you know what to put into the frame and what not to, if you know how to use audio to tell the story, I mean how you can get a color program da Vinci resolved for free so there's definitely no excuse to not be able to make a high-quality looking movie on a zero budget. The reason why it looks so crappy is because you have uneducated non-filmmakers who don't take the time to really understand storytelling, and filmmaking. Wouldn't catch me watching the TV movie unless there was a gun in my head. And somebody said to be doing this to establish themselves and then they're gonna drop everybody and they will. Just like Netflix they'll get as many shows as they need to but then They'll stop taking movies from anybody and they drop all the ones to try to revamp themselves and I guarantee you it'll become a white platform and no longer support the black voice. And Maverick Entertainment has been horrible since it's creation.
The other main thing about early blaxploitation was the music. You had Issac Hayes, James Brown, Curtis Mayfield, etc. doing these amazing soundtracks that are held up as actual studio albums to the rest of their discography. That was in itself I feel a huge part of the success.
superfly is such a good album
A PSA for all the creative black people out there: I know financing your projects is tough, and hoping for an audience to magically appear and peep your work is tougher, but please don't lose hope. Our community needs black anime, superhero movies, martial arts flicks, space operas, etc. And not just movies. We need to stop signing our young musical artists under hollywood and create our own independent labels, so we can take one step closer towards true freedom. We can create our own hollywood. We can rebuild our communities to their former glory. But we need to take a risk and trust each other. Yeah I know, that's a cardinal sin within the black community, but we have to try 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
I also want proper black anime. For my friends.
no offense but truthfully please keep far away from anime if you have no understanding of what and why makes it popular in japan and other international countries outside USA, if ya'll don't know how to make proper hot & sexy women then don't attempt it please.
❤
it was done back inna day and can be done again. look up oscar micheaux
What's with he anime zoomer host of this BLM video
THIS VIDEO is so insightful. I recently got one of my projects platformed on Tubi because I saw the seemingly low barrier to entry and the growing landscape of African American story tellers. My brother and I love sci-fi and want to put more African American and diverse faces in those spaces but understand the budgetary limitations that could cause such projects to end up looking low budget and 'laughable". This, in turn, is why we as filmmakers must focus very intently on writing, cinematography, lighting, acting and visual effects. It's not just the budget but our understanding of how to use the film medium in more inventive ways, how to truly learn the tools we have available and how to build upon the medium. This video is a touches on a specific topic I think we as a community could talk even more about then we are. Thank you for such a great video Pillboy! Support up and coming black filmmakers!
what project is it
@@allurajane4979 SmallTown Outsiders!
@@allurajane4979 It's called SmallTown Outsiders on TubiTV!
You're right in the history of tubi "Sloppy Seconds" has to be the absolute worst in the new blaxploitation genre
Now I gotta check it out
@@quazimondo9676 Trust me the dude in this movie is basically a composite of Mister, Ike Turner, Joe Jackson, and Michael Vick
@@DeeDaKang1 GODDAMN! I don't think I need to watch it, I'll just read a synopsis.
@@quazimondo9676Don't do it. It is a very very bad film. Even for Tubi.
Mannnnnn this girl cut that bullshit on talking bout I need to see this. I was pissed you gotta be sick as hell to like that one
I'm just always stunned that some Black people continue to push forward and promote media that is so harmful to us. The majority of people get their information and bias about Black people from media, and its like we're helping them make a case of why we're treated badly and "why we deserve it". We have to stop falling for this crap. We move the world and if we tried, if we stopped promoting stereotypes we could really make moves.
I agree we need to tell these independent filmmakers to show different facets of the black community.
SPOT ON!
Honestly it blows my mind to think that the entertainment landscape today is so reminiscent of the 1970s… Which I think is great because I love me some weird, experimental stuff, but also horribly sad that we can’t learn from our mistakes.
i had this theory for a couple years that they're bringing the 80's back
totally agree. My favorite thing is that the 70s were full of weird, grimy, experimental, artsy films. It was awesome, but also was equally a vial ploy to exploit and make money. That same thing is happening now. Just with the added bonus of Hollywood also churning out more un creative, repetitive schlock than ever. I hope things are changing. I hope things are getting more creative and I hope that real, good, interesting indie filmmaking and overthrow the vampiric Hollywood regime with it
“At the end of the day Ronnie, I am a man” is from our film “Single Man Problems: Volume One” on Tubi
I will be sure to credit you in the description.
@@studiopillboy our film follows a self conscious gay black man trying to find love in NYC. So while our clip went viral all over social media, the film dives deeper into that. One of which is discussing about Prep/Safe Sex/HIV.
A man that likes n199as 😂
@BobbyAshleyProductions when part 2 coming out though???
@@schizofrenzia1884 soon. We’re in the middle of rewriting the script while simultaneously trying to secure funding. So the more people watch, it’ll help in funding part 2.
You had me when you started the video with my favorite Rage Racer music.
And yes, Tubi movies show black people doing 3 things: screwing, suffering, and dying.
But who is making these movies? It ain’t white folks. That’s on the.
Great video. Tubi movies are definitely modern-day black schlok films, which is neither good or bad, in my opinion.
All I literally use Tubi for is the legal subs of Kamen Rider and Super Sentai and random horror movies.
@@FluffBear01 good to know
smartass @@tristanband4003
White people a b and c movies are on every platform 😂 I'm glad I can find "hood Flix" 💯
We can change this lowkey
This is a “culture” issue…remember these folks could have made ANYTHING and they CHOSE to make these BS films….it isn’t anyone’s fault but their OWN. 🤷🏽 until the culture holds the culture accountable we will continue to see this BS.
That’s right, great “uncultured” one! You have laid down law once again in the profound comment section of CZcams. There has never been nor will be another like you! One of pale skin in the space of melanated people discussing nonsensical shit. Bravo!🎉
Thank you for showing Melvin Van Peebles in this. Dude deserves so much credit and praise for his work outside of Sweetback. His debut film The Story of a Three Day Pass is one of the best debut films I've ever seen and Don't Play Us Cheap is an awesome musical.
i've been using Tubi a lot more Because i've noticed how much more accessible it appeared for POC filmmakers and lower budget films, so when i saw this on my recommended i had to give it a watch. not even halfway thru and just wanted to commend you for the great work, i can see the time and care you put into the research and the production of this vid!!
also love the background music !!! omfg
It’s important to note that off the success of sweetback, Melvin Van Peebles was hired by Columbia to direct the film “Watermelon Man” after the script was brought to them by the writer Herman Raucher
Damn good point. Too often content creators theorize but miss the nuance.
Herman Raucher wrote Watermelon Man (1970), not Sweetback. Columbia brought Van Peebles on to direct a three film contract in which Watermelon Man was part of. Sweetback wasn’t written until after Peebles broke his contract with Columbia. While Raucher’s ideas were used in inspiration for Sweetback, he wasn’t the writer. One of the reasons Sweetback was created was due to Peeble’s and Raucher’s disagreements with the less satirical Black Power messages that Peebles wanted to implement in Watermelon Man.
-It’s never _easy_ to make a film.
- I’d I like to see the film making journey/background of the people behind these productions
- It’s ALL ABOUT THE WRITING.
-Imho these projects aren’t influenced by cinema & literature.
They’re influenced by hip hop, social media, & shows like Power.
What you put in, is what you get out.
I believe Tubi right now is using these movies to establish itself. Once that happens, it's going to start charging and then drop a lot of these movies. It'll go the way of UPN and the WB. FOX also knows how to get the black audience. They had Martin, Living Single and In Living Color.
This!
Black shows provided the views & revenue for Fox when it was young.
That led to Fox news.
Tubi could easily be same playbook
Ironically, one of the owners of Tubi are related to Rupert Murdoch, the original owner of the Fox Network.
You hit it on the head. But It's not a coincidence it's by design
That is interesting
That's exactly what's going to happen. That template is well known. And they know black people love to be entertained.
I’m the black creative friend. I’m currently working on a story called “Android 24”. It stars two black androids as super heroes and is set in a futuristic 1950’s type city. My plan for getting it on screen is to turn it into a comic and pitch it to big comic publishers like Image comics and dark horse (by the way they’re accepting submissions for anyone who’s interested). Once it gets picked up and runs for a few issues I can try getting the black community behind it to get it made into a show. Animated if possible.
I look forward to seeing Android 24 in the future. 💯
That's dope
I am a black indie game developer working on a few projects myself
the issue is a lot of these movies are being made by former “street dudes” they’re the ones with the money. These films resonate with them so until you can fund these films not much will change
As long as the people support it, it will continue. I know more people that have seen Shottas than Moonlight. Saying "make the movies we wanna see" is exactly what's happening. Time to acknowledge that it's not a "them pushing the narrative", but us being entertained by the minstrelsy.
Pretty much, if people don't like that kinda stuff.. don't watch it. But this is what people want nowadays. I thought it was going to be like black dynamite. But the movies he showed was like that 😅
I reserve the right to criticize poor production value. It doesn’t have to look like Scorsese’s DP shot it, but for God sakes take a film class!
I agree doesn’t need top tier lens but perspective is essential people just walking in front of a camera without paying attention to balancing the scene ! This why Stanley Kubrick was a g he spent so much time making sure every frame was right but that’s the benefit of learning photography before hoping into filmmaking
Exactly! No one says the same about music. “Oh this guy is an indie singer so it’s ok if his songs don’t sound good”. Like no. Movies are a visual media, they need to look good.
All commentary aside, I love the stylization of this channel. I wasn’t even gonna watch this just listen but then I got captivated by the visuals. U definitely gonna blow up soon bro.
There is a major lack of Film Education behind a lot of these Black Tubi movies. Indie films won't always look like high budget films but you can see who studies and who just picks up a camera and presses record. There's so much that's goes into Filmmaking that people don't take the time to learn. Pre-Production, Script writing, Character development, Acting Coaching, Audio Production, Cinematography, Post Production.
Everyone in the Film Industry starts from somewhere but there should be a progression in your work. Just because you put out multiple films that doesn't mean the QUALITY of your work has improved. A lot of people just want to be seen and have their name out there but your (good quality) work should speak for itself!
I appreciate you doing this video. It's a conversation that's needed!
This is extremely well done. Editing, pacing, clear ideas of what you're saying, good use of specific examples. I will check out the rest of your stuff on the strength of this. Keep it up!
There's a lot of indie film makers that don't want to build together trying to get into Hollywood, that's what i am seeing lately though. I am open to creating something outside some hood movies.
I'm game
@@user-qj1bq3gq9x Making something about a man who passes but goes on to battle in the spirit realm
Same, I’m down
I'm watching this on my way home from work with 1% battery.
Good work ❤
We got a looooonnng way to go
Great job 👏
The fight will never end. There will always be racist people & fools. But it's better then the 1950's. But it can be a ton better 😢 little by little bro. Look how far the LGBT community came. Other groups too
Let's be real no one forces these directors to make these types of movies. Everyone's gotta eat but it's the individuals that decide what they'll sacrifice to get to the table
Boarders is a BBC TV show, I had no idea it was being distributed on tubi in the US or that it had the tubi original label. Interesting
I get it’s only been one day as of writing this comment, but this video should be talked about way more. You make some great points in the video, showcasing Tubi content in a light that I haven’t really thought of before as someone who’s only ever heard of the app. I’m looking forward to whatever you put out next and I will be sharing this one with my brother, who is an aspiring film director, to hear his thoughts on the matter. Great video, Pillboy!
How do you only have 3K subs? This is a hidden gem of a channel! I'm a film student, and I appreciate you citing the films you reviewed. Blaxploitation has also been a guilty pleasure of mine ever since I was a kid, I grew up with Dolemite and Human Tornado, as well as Grier's Sheeba Baby.
I'm really looking forward to more content from you, and I genuinely hope you continue examining media like this more!
As Tubi movies have boomed, there have been creators that have subverted and satirized the form, even from within it. I think it's unfortunate that you singled out PPP Loan Gone, because that movie is very self-aware, and actually a smart and funny satire of the Black Tubi genre, and fairly well made for an amateur film. I also think Felicia Rivers, who directed Tiffany the Doll, deserves some props for a lot of creative fantasy-based stories, and she's growing and learning as a filmmaker. Yes, they're still very amateur but the creativity comes through.
I think you're displaying a double standard when contrasting these completely amateur, outsider films with the works of people like Spike Lee, who went to college for filmmaking, or Melvin Van Peebles, who was a professional novelist and writer in three languages before he ever made a movie. Even the Hughes Brothers who were closer to real outsiders had a $3 million budget and a whole Hollywood crew and system behind them thanks to their connections to hip-hop artists.
Outsider art has to be considered in that context. Inexperienced creators often lean on the tropes of the media they consume, but it's disrespectful to call this minstrelsy rather than what it is: a totally untrained filmmaker with no access to the system making an earnest attempt to tell a good story in the only way they know how. Now we could say more about how Tubi promotes these movies or what the people who consume them are taking away from them, but that's another story.
I have no problem with black filmmakers getting their films on platforms,if we didn't bitch about it in the 70s I don't wanna hear shit now
Oh, I guess there was only one chance to complain, back in the 1970s, and now people aren't allowed, even if they weren't even alive to complain back then.
There were blaxploitation films being released in the eighties and nineties as well. When I lived in the Bronx, New York back in the nineties, there was a huge record store on Fordham Road that had a whole section for these types of movies. Don't ask me what the name of those movies were, because (to the best of my memory) I never bought any of them. I'm sure they all went straight to video/DVD.
Love this! Can’t believe you don’t have more subs, you content is so good. The animation combined with insightful commentary is lovely. Can’t wait to see more from you in future!
Bro as a Black man, A Movie Buff, and a creative this was an amazing watch!!! You got a new subscriber for life man!!
23:51 Tubi will sometimes buy films and shows form other markets and dub it as a original like Netflix sometimes
They already have the new show “borders”, pretty sure it’s a uk show there streaming.
This video was immaculately done. Hoping you blow up soon, brother. Imma be following you.
Boarders is sadly not a Tubi original. It's a BBC original
F. D Sigifier brought me.
Came for the content, earned a sub for the use of "Silver Stream" in the background. 👍🏽
Great video, im vary interested in how toxic representation moves forward slowly but eventually for real representation and how we can enjoy such things even if toxic as long as we're aware of what's happened to get us here.
Thumbs up for the "Move Me" clip...I thought my playlist started by accident lmfao
This is an excellent essay and critique. I’ve been deep in Blaxploitation and more mainstream black film pretty intensely ever since I say Sweetback on Criterion Channel a few years ago.
Watching a ton of old Blaxploitation on TUBI has the algorithm recommending a lot of the films you mention here and I find them unwatchable. I’ve introduced my nephews to the brighter gems of Blaxploitation films and that led us to watching (and me rewatching) the films of Melvin Van Peebles and Spike Lee.
There’s no reason black film, or any kind of film can’t be good. There just has to be an insistence on quality storytelling and execution.
TUBI could be a vehicle for film renaissance across genre…but filmmakers and audiences have to vote with their feet and support everyone putting our best foot forward. Sharing this video.
I love how stylized, educational, and personal this was. Definitely subscribing I can't wait to see what you do next!
What a great way to explain the issues with black cinema and your edits are unique, I love it
Absolute great thought piece wanna see more of our people express our creativity the time is now!
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The fact that Fox was involved should have been a red flag to everybody.
you gotta add some blinks to that character it gets creepy looking at the 👁️👄👁️
every now and then I see a video so good i wish i made it. This is one of those times. Clean work bro, just incredible
While it's neither a Tubi movie or an inde film, All Black people NEED to give a look at The Book of Clarence. Even if you have a hard time jiving with its slightly disjointed narrative and its mix of biblical and post-modern sensibilities, there's something so beautiful about seeing a movie that's unfettered of the hold of the Hollywood machine that tells a sprawling story of an ALL BLACK Jerusalem with a star studded BLACK CAST about a non believer finding belief in the miracles of a BLACK JESUS.
Despite all its flaws, The Book of Clarence is a unique Black film that doesn't want to fixate on showing us as savage, but as movers, shakers, would-be kings and the daughters and sons (literally) of God...all with a touch of comedy and a fire-ass soundtrack.
Eh, maybe it's because I'm a history buff, but to me any movie set in ancient Palestine/Israel should just cast actual Palestinians and Jews, since it was their people who lived there (especially nowadays, when Palestine needs more solidarity than ever). Otherwise to me it's no different than casting a bunch of English and Irish guys for a samurai film.
I was saying,"Why don't you go make a movie bro?" Then you make the same proposition at the end. That's kind of a dumb argument. That's like, critiquing music then someone says "Where is your music?" you're probably not a film maker and probably harder than it looks. Idk why I was trying to denote your critique.
To be fair every journey begins with a single step. A lot of the bad movies on Tubi are going to be the result of new creators. And that is perfectly good also not every Movie has to be great. I think a lot of people could probably be filmmakers nowadays. There are so many people who do cosplay that would only need two other people to help out and then you have the makings of at least one short film. some movies you could make really wouldn’t even require that much costuming or props. in fact horror movies can be made shockingly cheaply
There is always gonna be a sub group within your ranks that deal devastating blows to the progression of the unit as a whole.
One example of a small subgroup within your ranks that deals devastating blows to the progression of the unit as a whole is the group of filmmakers who write, produce, and direct these hood movies centered around hip-hop, criminality, and strippers. Another example is the flesh-eating gangs in Haiti.
Tubi has a library of old Hispanic movies from the 1970’ and 1980’. I think they have whole movie Catalogue of Vicente Fernandez. A big fyi is that tubi is owned by Amazon
Tubi is actually owned by the Fox Corporation. Not the 20th Century Fox owned by Disney, but the Murdoch owned remainer. Plus Amazon Prime Video actually cut down on carrying these movies since the filmmakers can't even get the sales agents interested that Amazon Prime or Netflix uses.
@@matthewprince9705 my bad at the time I was thinking about freevee witch is owned by Amazon. The new update on tubi made the logo purple and yellow hence the mixup
Tubi is owned by Fox. Look up how Fox network started, it's the same thing they're doing now. Eventually there will not be any poc content. Look it up, Fox in the 90s had damn near all black shows. You see what they got now.
Why's this man's bitmoji yappin at me?
Why are his toes out?
Fr the feet being out like that is a bit much like who’s he trying to appeal to? He need to put shoes or at least socks on his toon 😂
Are yall bots or NPC’s ? What kind of commentary is this? Weirdos.
Bro, you’ve got a great style. It’s so fresh feeling and the animation is a great touch. Earned a sub from me before the first five minutes. Keep at it man
It's about time that today's Independent Black filmmakers can get their films showcased on a much larger streaming platform in the 21st century and make some money as well in the process, and keep in mind it's already extremely difficult trying to get real exposure for independent black filmmakers in general. Black filmmakers need to continue to grow their craft and Trailblaze in the film industry business, "By Any Means Necessary"!✊✊✊
Brotha you have to do a piece on Zeus network, my god talk about black exploitation mixed with a little degenerate power tripping ppl and maniacal behavior. It’s 20 times worse than Tubi. It makes you feel like there’s no hop left for us. Granted all of the shows on there are “Reality TV shows”.
The word Blaxploitation was put out there to to make black movies less then what they are and a lot of people fell hook line and sinker for the word but never started a movement for the end of the N word in movies .
This was an insanely good and interesting video, didn't expect to check the views and only see it's at 8k views, i rarely if ever make comments like this but this genuinely was one of the few videos i've watched in like ages that genuinely kept my attention all the way through, insanely good
If you're black and you don't act, talk, or do things a certain way, you are called names or shunned, so we put ourselves in a box before anyone else does
Finally someone said it. Capitalism absolutely looooves to capitalize off of not only hate, but the illusion of progress while still making sure real progress stays in the gutter. I mean it’s true for black films but for other films even criticizing Hollywood and big systems in general. I had a weird feeling at the bottom of my stomach thinking about how something like The Boys was being produced under Amazon, as if they were saying “yeah see? Aren’t huge corporations that try to pretend to do good while being corrupt absolutely awful? We’re not like those corporations! We’re different. We’re amazon”
Actual progress doesn’t start with a black square, it starts with direct conversation and action. I don’t know, I feel like I’m envisioning Tubi to be like [as] except with creative insane movies, comedy like no other and heart like no other.
Start getting to work, because come 2025, we’re gonna need something for history to look back on!
Talk about "Roc" it's a tv show if you haven't seen it i think you'll like it.
Roc was damned interesting! I forget about that show most of the time but we loved it while it was on. The live episode was one of my all-time favorite television moments as a teenager.
@@nerfytheclown yes the live shows are the best, that cast was some high talented people kinda trapped playing the stereotype but trying everything in their power to change the game.
@@gamecitysavior2910 yuh...you could feel the seething, see it behind their eyes. They were the inheritors of the terrible situations that you could see with, for example; Good Times. (Or: "how to sell out an entire people to the Spirit of self-worship). You seem like you would enjoy brother Ron's take...check out TruthUnedited and his recent series on how we got here with the TV. I think so far it's my favorite (and very much an American-black-dude's perspective) take on the twentieth century takeover of our minds. Cheers!
I love your title cards. It looks like we’re pulling from similar inspiration
Master P film reviews would be dope, I think you’re the right person to take that on
Do you honestly think people “poured their souls” into the movies people make fun of on Tubi?
Look how many videos there are about “I made a lot of money making Tubi movies”.
These are intentionally made cheaply and quickly without regard to script or production value but with complete regard to getting something on Tubi and cashing out.
If Tubi started monetarily rewarding filmmakers for higher quality content - then that’s when you will see better, more soul-poured films. Money is the incentive here not art are any kind of movement.
Great video man. I love all the historical context and background given. love the nuanced analysis of both blaxploitation and tubi films and how things could be improved upon. This is the type of film analysis I live for!
While I agree with the overwhelming portion of your analysis, I'm really surprised you left out one central element; namely, consumer demand.
Yes, there is a marketing bias. Yes, we don't control the algorithm. Yes, we need to hold the "drug dealer" accountable. But as long as there is a demand, there will be a supplier.
As you stated in your commentary, I'm also not trying to "police" Black viewing habits nor surrender to respect ability politics. But as long as audiences are thrilled by sex and sadoism, it will continue to get produced and shown.
Shaft was the best Blaxploitation film. It is just a great movie that still holds up honestly. Coffy is really great as well. Pam Grier is a great actor as she showed later on. See Jackie Brown for example
Low budget movies are still entertaining idc
That’s not even the point. Smh.
they say all this shxt but have no resources for upcoming black indie filmmakers. that's why I laugh at them all the time.
@@semplybalanced3210 whats the point its just people asking movies on what they know why is thst wrong
I think "Black Cinema" is going global and African film & music is taking over as Black American culture declines. Black American (and Caribbean too) culture has been in decline since the late 2000s and Africa has stepped to fill the void. Hip Hop and Dance Hall degeneracy- people worldwide are sick of it. More people than ever (including Black Americans) are watching Nigeria's "Nollywood" films and tv dramas (which have come a long way!) and listening to Afro-Pop (Burna Boy, Ayra Starr, Whiz Kid, Rema). We need to start collaborating with Africans and Afro-Latins because this is the future of the Black culture- the Afro-Future. Wake up, Black people!!
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Aw shit. My ribs. You should get your own Netflix. You'll do way better than Mo'nique with material like this.
The problem with tubi movies is they have no substance, everything is about strippers drug dealing and sex, brought to you by Detroit apparently.
So.. crime drama movies 🤷🏾♀️
I love Blaxploitation films I'm gonna get you sucka is a classic.
I'm gonna you sucker was s spoof movie about black exploration films
@@coreymyers7409 yeah and it's damn good
That was satire on blaxploitation tho. Showing the absurdity of it all. It wasn’t meant to be taking seriously, like the original blaxploitation films.
R.I.P Melvin Van Peebles
I really enjoyed this video. You make a valid point that we need to give smaller budget writers/directors a chance.
Tubi movies can be interesting and non-stereotypical. I watched Cinnamon (2023) the other day. I had a good time! Damon Wayans was there. Pam Grier too! Their characters were fun and the protagonist was a black girl who just wanted to sing.
This movie did have violence and family dysfunction but it was also very sweet and entertaining. If Tubi made more films like that, I would definitely support the platform.
Thank you for sharing your video. Your animation style is 🔥
What's really happening is your desire for what you want black people to be is clashing with what they are
Love the format and the delivery. Great work, sir. You are an inspiration to the no face content community lol
Omg! This topic been in my mind.... even the sweetback coverage (that film is WILD).... this video is ridiculously well done 😃😃😃 content, style of editing, these beats..... let me subscribe now 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I honestly love Tubi, because they have some of the most insane movies I've ever seen.
At this point Tyler Perry movies such as Tubi movies have become more of a spectacle rather than cinema. Akin a freak circus show snake to Sharknado. We don’t watch these movies for cinema, but rather for commentary and to talk shit about them. The poor quality the movie the better the laughs, jokes, and comedic takeaways. SharkNado walked so that Tyler Perry and Tubi could run !
The sad thing is that we now have platforms to make quality movies but choose to follow the herd mentality pact
Tubi can only show what the film makers give them the film makers write produce and direct these films it's up to them to tell different stories of the black experience but lets Keep it a buck they want to make hood movies centered around hip hop criminality & strippers in these movies but beyond that Tubi always shows plenty of classic TV Shows and Movies
For real. Tubi is only a platform. It not Tubi then people would post their original works on some other site. Nobody's forcing black folk to make hood dramas and crime movies.
@@BroWitGlasses8008exactly I get this guy that runs this channel wants to see better films but he falls to realize the ones making these films are not interested in any of the things he is talking about they want to tell hood tales
Tubi literally picks what movies get the most views. They could just promote the videos that weren't mind control
@@jamesdoe2139 stop being stupid if our people wanted to create movie's about us going to school graduating and working a 9 to 5 living a regular life they could create that but that's not where these creators of these movies are at nobody is forcing them to make these kinds of films they choose too when we stop blaming other's and look at ourselves w/ self reflection then things will change until then we'll keep getting the same hood stories
@BKLYN_TZU Tubi doesn't have to put even 1 of those movies up there. Also they actively promote the bullshit.
Lastly, if a couple of Brown people even just appeared to gain popularity making movies about going to school, then school movies would have an explosion in the Brown community.
It's the silly view of what's wrong with the Brown community, and the lack of respect for people to make whatever content they want without your silly judgement... that makes it hard to communicate with the minds we're trying to change.
That jungle in the background is sick. Im glad Drum and Bass as a whole is starting to have its resurgence.
Engagement for the algorithm. That was an interesting watch, good job
Really good video! I agree with 99% of what you said! We definitely should focus on the content and writing of the films rather than production. But the one point I disagree with is that these filmmakers are incapable of making their films look better. Like you mentioned, equipment is a lot more affordable and accessible these days. It’s not cheap, but it’s affordable. I currently work at a restaurant and I funded a film of my own using top notch equipment, and I hired a crew that knew what they were doing, which works wonders. While the content is the main problem, it also irritates me when people who claim to be filmmakers don’t go the extra mile to make their film look better. Because they’re either too lazy or they don’t want to take the leap of faith of putting large amounts of their own money into their project. If you believe in your project, you have to be all in. It might not look like a Hollywood production, but they could definitely look better
The TUBI films and the original Blaxploitation flicks are both, like anything else, a MIXTURE of good and crappy films. Some of them take themselves seriously and are very strong production efforts with engaging characters and themes, good storytelling and exciting plots. Then there are others that make you wonder if they were ever meant to be taken seriously at all. The original Blaxploitation films, as you stated, mostly began with a genuine effort to allow black creators and directors to bring their visions to a mainstream audience; and good or bad, the blaxploitation era of the 70s did have much historical and symbolic significance to black viewers. Some of the TUBI films do put forth some serious production effort, some of them managing to snag legit black actors that we don't see much in the mainstream. But as many in the comments section have stated, cheap-looking productions that are weak and laughable also get thrown into the mix. Those of us who grew up in the 70s though will probably always have a sweet spot for the original era of blaxploitation flicks. We will never forget the larger-than-life presence of Richard Roundtree, Fred Williamson, Jim Brown, Pam Greer, Jim Kelly, Ron Oneal, William Marshall, etc...
Right on young brother... TUBI is using our current condition and taking advantage of street ghetto life that's negative. Blaxploitation had meaning and heart... not this crap .
I don't watch any of that stuff while on Tubi, and I still don't understand how anyone else does. I use Tubi to watch obscure Action and Horror Films from back in the day.
Great premise, but why are you lowering the bar for professionalism in Black filmmaking?
You don't need a large budget to compose shots with headroom, mic scenes appropriately or perform ADR, or to light the scene to a proper camera exposure.
Suspension of disbelief is a major component of filmmaking. We should not expect consumers of indie content to accept lower standards for Brown filmmakers... we should hold Brown filmmakers accountable
He also says he's not concerned about the budget "-if you gotta use a broom handle as a tripod."
Thay was - actually really cool. Listenning to this video almost felt like i was following along a Cobow Bebop episode. Also, great job with the graphics.
How can you complain about blaxploitation and so freely use the n-word?
Tubi being owned by Fox really makes me dislike the movies even more
Did something happened with Fox 🤷🏾♀️
this video made me realise 1) Tubi is still around, and 2) it’s not quibi.
Great video regardless!
Black cinema peaked with Who Killed Captain Alex
Ok. . . You don't have to call them "hood movies". How about "Ghetto Budget, Ratchet Stories." Basic and cheap movies made about low hanging fruit as disposable content. Terribly made, and Terribly written. . .
Hood movies is just faster to say since we know what's coming.
I think a space not explored enough by black people and have a chance of more control over their properties and art is game development. It hasn’t been as easy as it has been to get into it, it still incorporates multiple art forms like music, visuals, etc. I hope that changes in the future
Financial support is the biggest issue for indie filmmakers. Just finished producing our first short film and are currently looking for investors/funds for our Black girlhood coming of age film. If we invest in the films we want to see, Tubi can truly be a Black film renaissance.
Tubi has a ridiculously large library of content. Some of it amazing and can’t be found on other platforms. Even though the commercial breaks aren’t very long, I’d pay for an ad free version. Bless you Tubi 🙌🏼
I am outside the target audience, being a white person, but the fact is how we interact with any black content has been...well, bad to avoid sugar coating it. Very bad.
I'm a millennial, but i refuse to engage in self congratulations. We spent of our teenaged and young adult years watching the boondocks and chappelles show with not much going on than "black people funee", which would explain how deeply entrenched digital minstrelsy is in the world of online memes. The bitter irony is that we imagined that we imagined ourselves to be better, that our satirical intent would prevent unironic racists from weaponizing...or that it was the internet and therefore not real. Pools closed wasn't funny then and it isn't funny now.
Which brings us back to blaxploitation. I admit my introduction to it, and exploitation movies generally, was through Tarantino. While his love of blaxsploitation is sincere (Jackie Brown is an objectively good homage and tribute imo), I am of the conclusion that his all hands in approach is going to have to fade away.
Instead of memefication and clumsy participation, we should fade into the background. These works aren't made for us, and should be watched with our brains turned on. Any support we give should be anonymous, indirect, and for the most part silent. I dunno i am just rambling now
I think these are good ideas but ultimately expect too much of people that are at the end of the day just people. Creative stuff is so ego driven I do not think anyone in the future is going to subvert their own creative vision so as to not step on anyone’s toes. White people are just people and because of that you can’t expect too much of them. They will rise and fall to whatever expectations are set by their own elites. And they will do whatever they can get away with just like anyone else