5 Pieces Intro: Schoenberg's Orchestra(s)
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- Introduction to my Orchestration Analysis Series covering Arnold Schoenberg's 5 Pieces for Orchestra.
Here are some useful links:
The IMSLP page dedicated to Pictures at an Exhibition:
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Thailand Philharmonic Orchestra's performance of Pictures:
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A full video of Pictures with score:
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Sofia Uryvayeva Martin's supercharged performance of The Hut on Chicken's Legs/The Great Gate of Kiev:
• Mussorgsky: Pictures a...
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A few additional notes:
a) Yes, I know the original German spelling is "Schönberg." But I am respecting Schoenberg's own practice with regard to his name in English-speaking countries after he left Germany in the 1930's.
b) The recording and video that I'm using is from a performance by Haitink with Vienna Phil.
c) Though Strauss got Schoenberg a teaching job in Berlin, it only lasted a couple years, after which Schoenberg moved back to Vienna.
Schoenberg's voice sounds eerily similar to Thomas Goss doing an impression of Mr. Spock...
I blame society...
@Ryan Wilk Slavedriver... :D Of course I haven't forgotten them, I just have to pace these things. If you've been a keen follower of my announcements and talks about my macProVideo courses, then perhaps you will have heard that these courses are scheduled for release starting in around a year.
It's not the real voice of Schoenberg.
Well, this is a pleasant surprise.
I'm glad you are doing any kind of orchestration analysis series but I'm still waiting for something from Shostakovich, he was a 20th century symphonic giant, I really hope you analise some of his works in the future. Much respect and all the best!
In 2025, when Shostakovich's works become public domain here in New Zealand, perhaps I will. Thanks so much for your kind words.
I've grown very fond of Schoenberg recently. This is a nice surprise.
Thank you ❤❤
I'd love to hear your thoughts perhaps sometime in a video on Broadway musical orchestration, and perhaps how it has evolved over time. I don't know how educated you are in that area, but I find it, as a musician in that field (and what I'd call a hobby-orchestrator, just for fun) to be very, very interesting. Times have changed with the advent of electronic keyboard programming, compared to the "raw" sound that we used to get in the 70's and before. Not to say that there are not superbly talented Broadway orchestrators today, who often carry much more of the load than most would expect in other avenues of music production. Anyways, have a great day, my friend. You have a wonderful channel.
Wow, I had to analyze this piece in my university advanced orchestration class. Time to take out my pocket score again. Looking forward to the upcoming videos. Thank you, this is one of my favorites.
sequencing this into midi at the moment so I'm happy this popped into my recommendations!
Can’t wait. I love this piece and can’t wait to study.
I had no idea that Holst's "The Planets" was influenced by Schoenberg's "Five Pieces for Orchestra." Makes sense, suddenly: these are two of my very favorite works of classical music. I must have been hearing the shared sounds and concepts all the while without realizing it. Would love it if you studied the influence more in a separate lecture.
I said the same thing when I went into a deeper dive into Schoenberg's Orchestra pieces particularly this one. "The Planets" is probably my most favorite works for orchestra and to find out Holst was influenced by this made me purchase Schoenberg 5 pieces for studying reasons.
Great content and great piece :) 👍
Some of the colleges of the arts in Japan have to analysis this piece in a lecture!!
Cool, new vid. Love it.
Beethoven Symphony 9 is up there too.
Thanks for this - opened my ears to a piece I’ve gone from ‘meh’ to indifferent on.
Two points: the Proms were performed at London’s Queen’s Hall before WW2, not the Royal Albert Hall. Hitler was responsible for the venue change.
Secondly (and I may be wrong on this) You seem dismissive of the Albert Hall as a venue and wonder if you’re suggesting it’s a bastion of conservatism? Far from it - the Proms and it’s audiences are renowned as a venue for many premieres and commissions of new works. I think international audiences generally only see the Last Night of the Proms which is, ironically, not representative at all of the rest of the nearly two month annual event. The five pieces were performed on the First Night this year, and went down very well - again.
Hi Jonathan. Glad to hear that I renewed your interest in this piece. My source told me that in 1912, the Proms were at Albert Hall, at least the concert that premiered 5 Pieces. I could double-check that source, I suppose. As to your other point, my comment "of all places" refers to the fact that a German composer could not get a performance in his own country for a groundbreaking work - not that there's any conservatism implies whatsoever on the part of those programming Albert Hall (especially not with Henry Wood at the baton).
@@OrchestrationOnline The Royal Albert Hall became the home of the Proms in 1941. See their website: www.royalalberthall.com/about-the-hall/our-history/explore-our-history/royal-albert-hall-stars/bbc-proms/
At 09:04 in your video, your quote regarding the pedal clarinet refers to the Proms taking place in the Queen's Hall in 1912.
Hell yea
Hi Thomas, I have follow your wonderful lectures on this channel. I think it would be great to study a piece for voice, solos and chorus, and orchestra. It's so difficult to write well for the voice... Salome or Elektra by Strauss for example... or Puccini...
Hi brescianello! Until Carmina Burana falls into the public domain here in New Zealand in 2032, have a look at my orchestration studies of Lili Boulanger's works for orchestra, choir, and soloists. :)
@@OrchestrationOnline or Beethoven’s 9th or missa solemnis
Starting this series. Can you recommend me orchestral libreries to do classical music mockups?
I like Holst but this not so much...
My advice is to get past likes and dislikes, and focus on what you can learn from my lectures about how the orchestration works. You like Holst, you say - but Holst would never have produced the music that you admire without having been inspired by this music. So there's something here that's precious and worth learning.