I work for a manufacturing company that has a lot of components made in China, the way they explain it is that someone in China can make whatever you want in whatever way you want it in the most cost effective way possible, if you want it really cheap and cheaply made they'll do it, if you want it super high quality with high tolerances they'll do that too and every way in between.
Chinese manufacturing is all depending on the company contracting it or owning the factory.... Most companies just use cheaper chinese labor for cheap stuff, don't enforce any quality control, oversight, or anything and literally tells the manufacturers make us the cheapest shit that barely meets western specs so we can sell it for cheap. There's zero issues with quality manufacturing in China, just most companies doesn't want to manufacturer quality products in China...
A lot of people around the world only know of cheap Chinese products because of the importer in their country. The importer in their country is the one who values quantity over quality. Kind of a slap in the face and saying that their customers can't afford the better quality products from China. Maybe it's true to a certain extent.
Lars from Østmo here. Just here to correct some facts that are a little off in the video: - Insole is 6mm., not 6oz. 6mm. is closer to 15oz. - The lining is cowhide, not deer. It Comes from the Masoni tannery in Italy. - We switched from using steel + leather shanks to all-leather shanks after the boot showcased in the video was made. All of these come with all-leather shanks now. - When Ticho says he just finished the Stitchdown Patina Thundedome in a pair of our collab boots, the pictures are of some ugly boots I made 10 years ago, haha!
Wow, imagine being there to tell us all about how amazing these $900 boots are - and yet apparently knowing nothing about them haha. On the opposite end of that spectrum, thanks Lars for speaking up and correcting it.
Thanks Lars! Do you also stitch your boots by hand at 3mm? I have a little experience leathercrafting and I can't really comprehend the precision needed to achieve that.
@@ayasugihada agree, I was thinking the same. To me it looks like a machine stitch - or i guess by someone who is absolutely incredible and so basically is a ‘machine’ haha. If those are all hand stitches, hats off to whoever did them.
Same price range as Viberg is crazy. They’re beautiful boots, however I can’t help but feel like some objectivity is lost when the salesman is sitting right beside you.
The reason why I'm happy to pay viberg prices is to pay all the skilled labourers to live in Canada. With this brand, the skilled labourers are living in China. So where is that price going? No thanks, I'm not gonna buy boots to pay...uuh..."boot bro"s.
They are superior to Viberg in every conceivable way, Vibergs are a 500 dollar boot for over 1,000 because they are made in Vancouver, these are 5,000 dollar boot for under 1,000 because they are made in China.
@@henkrpe3249 See here lies the problem. People like you only think artisans in China only deserves cents because of the stigma that China only makes cheap crap. Now even with proof that there are equally skilled people in China can make the same quality product or even higher quality than whats expected. Still you say it has to be cheap because it is not made by western countries. So whats do you have to say now?
@@netmatrix75the debate isn’t that the workers are skilled or not, its that they are being paid peanuts. Thats the entire reason the labor has been moved to china, vs Europe or North America. And since they aren’t paying the high labor, it’s logical to assume the price should be less. The actual materials don’t make up a large % in cost, it’s the labor. And for this brand, all that labor savings, instead of being past to the end consumer is all going into 1 or 2 guys pockets - not the skilled labor. Thats the issue people are complaining about.
@@user-lc5uo5uj2f And that's exactly the problem you run into with these multi party collaborations. The price becomes inflated not because you're getting a better product but because everybody needs to get their cut. And in the end, it's the customer who's getting screwed.
Made in Italy with Chinese worker. Made in Canada with Indian worker. Made in USA with Mexican worker. Doesn't Matter where its made anymore. It all about the material and QC of the brand
Even when florsheim and other big named manufactures made shoes in their factories they often brough in seasonal workers primarily from Italy, what's your point?
The difference is labor cost, China can do quality for cheap. The piss take here is they are passing the savings on to themselves and not the customer.
That's not true at all. Worker rights/safety regulations/wages, environmental responsibility, and supporting your own community/country are all bigger factors than the end product. I don't care how good a pair of boots is if it was stitched together by some 14 year old kid working 12 hour shifts 7 days a week for $2/hour, all the while getting long-term health damage from inhaling toxic glue fumes in an unventilated warehouse all day long.
@@wave2k868 they just want to be able to maximize profit as much as possibly so they go with the country that can do it for the cheapest, I'm sure if in nigeria they had the machinery and semi trained labor they would outsource it there.
A friend of mine who is very familiar with Chinese manufacturing once said that Chinese factories will build whatever quality you are willing to pay for. So to say Chinese = junk is silly.
Like any factory, the level of quality control is what matters. The best way to ensure quality is by employing the best makers. That’s why I like Jim Green boots and shoes. The company continues to pay people more than other companies in the area. Don’t get me wrong, I’d pay more for boots made in the USA but no one makes the JG style. I do, however, have Horween Chromexcel boat shoes made in Maine.
He cannot be trusted to question quality control given he has the actual salesman of the company sat next to him. This video is as reliable as the old mvmt watch ads
@@RyTrapp0 ok to put it simply, we have no ability to trust if anything shown in this video is accurate to the actual shipped product given the salesman is onsite and it wouldn't be unlikely that a company would use a higher finished boot for marketing, they are also significantly overpriced considering the highest cost when making them is the price of labour. They will not pay as much as any of the pnw book makers to the craftsman and instead will pocket the extra
@@MyHallothere THEN REPORT THEM TO THE FTC FOR LYING Are you serious dude? Do you actually think CZcams is just a "get out of jail free" card to completely violate FTC regulations and commit fraud? Are you actually that that unware?
Much wool is so cheap that it costs more to shear the sheep than the fleece sells for. In the UK the traditional hill sheep wool can sell for less than $2 per fleece. And you'll be able to fill a lot of boots with that fleece. Admittedly wool has to be washed and processed but cork has to be harvested and mixed with binding agents. Is it really more expensive than cork ?
Cork is also cheap af my friend, and the quantity a boot takes is very very very small. The filling is just a matter of preference and function, you will save literally cents choosing one over the other
@@CarlosValentor Thanks. I thought that might be the case. I can understand using wool for environmental reasons as the binding agents in cork filler are not particularly nice but it's not going to make any difference to the price of a boot like this.
They are not buying full fleece. They use scrap. The stuff that is swept off the processing room floor. May as well use human hair swept off the barbershop floor.
@@user-lc5uo5uj2f That's a bit of an assumption there ? Anyway, the point was that the reviewers seem to think wool is a premium material which is only true for certain types like Merino wool. Much of the full fleece wool produced by sheep is chucked away or used in bulk for home insulation or sound proofing etc. and is not expensive.
I think a very important question to ask specifically because you have the actual salesman in the video, is this boot representative of an actual production or was it made specially at higher finishing for rose anvil?
Interestingly enough these are samples, so the materials used in this are actually a little different than the true boot. The True boot uses only leather shank instead of leather and steel to cut down on weight and the insoles used are 6mm which is closer to 15oz
@@Booksandboots so he's reviewing a book that has nothing to do with the actual sale model and not disclosing it? Channel has really changed with popularity
@@MyHallothere His videos are fine as long as they aren't sponsored by the shoe/boot manufacturer and he's the one foing the talking. Most of these sponsored videos are disasters as the community will very quickly notice the change from non-sponsored videos.
@@I_THE_ME except he's openly admitted that he will downplay the issues of certain companies so they will continue to do work with him. Easy evidence of that is the westco boots that he glossed over the cardboard heel stack on $700+ boots
The comments in this section are weird AF. Everyone here wants footwear to be made better and last longer, but then they complain when footwear is made better and to last longer with people who know what they're doing and like doing it. This whole sentiment of lowering costs is what got us to the point where work boots are made to last 6 to 12 months. It's fine to not be able to afford them - I can't afford them. They aren't meant to be boots that you just buy at a store, they're a luxury good that borders on a work of art. Then you have the China thing. You're fine paying 8 dudes in a shed in the US, Canada or other western country to make your expensive boots, but you won't pay 8 dudes in a shed in China to make the exact same type of boot? It's this weird misplaced economic nationalism that makes no sense to me. You should have issues giving your money to large corporations that exploit people in China to make their cheap shitty products, not a bunch of dudes that enjoy making quality products. At least, I hope the dudes and lasses are well paid, they deserve it for all this labor, if they aren't... well, then we have a problem. Not to mention that most of the products, technology and other shit in your house is already made in China. You aren't escaping the fact that your money will end up there. And I get that this video is pretty much an ad. You gotta do what you gotta do. Weston might've embelished and been more charitable because the boots were provided, and because Ticho is there, but IMO, it's inarguable that the boots are made well and that boots of that quality often cost that much. Just remember how much Alden's cost for the quality they are.
You should check out Canada West boots they’re made in Canada and make steel toe work boots cowboy boots engineer boots and service style boots solid price to
@@YasuOsatokunot cowboy boots but Webb Boot Co. out of Slocan BC makes some incredible work boots made by hand by one guy out of the thickest leather I’ve seen someone make a boot out of, and he charges pretty much the exact same price for a 10” logger made from 8-9oz veg tan as these guys want for a service boot
@@NiiminTVjust ordered a pair of the Canada West Red Dog lace to toe boots, they use 7-8 oz Seidel work leather too and full leather mid soles and heel stacks (on some models) and I got mine for under 300 cad out the door
I think it would be a really neat comparison to see if there’s any differences between the boots they brand themselves and the ones they’re contracted to make (the Dayton CSA work boots and non MTO bikers are made by Canada west, and there’s also a line of them sold by Bailey’s forestry supply as the “red dawg” logger boots)
That aint 6oz, just looking at it you can tell that insole leather is thick af. If you want to compare PNW brands with these, compare their MTO prices. Vibergs do not have the level of QC that Iron boots has for sure, and let's not even get started on the finishing. But at the same time, Viberg is a comparatively huge, way more orders, they produce faster and more boots per month than Iron boots. All american bootmakers have had their fair share of qc issues that are quite well documented if you're in the boot scene. Nicks, Whites, JKs Dr Sole is generally the superior outsole compared to Vibram or Dainite. They are just cheaper to purchase and import for Asian makers, so Chinese and Indonesian makers in particular use them more and are less common in the western hemisphere. If you're not already biased, you know that these boots are simply better finished, with more skill and time required to make the boots to that specification. Comparing these with japanese makers would be a fairer comparison. And yet people dont seem to have a problem paying 1 to 2 thousand dollars for their products. It's the same in the dress shoe industry. Brands like acme shoemaker, Oct Tenth, yearn also cost within the 700-1000usd range. And they consistently produce better footwear than C&J, Carmina, Alden who also compete within the same price range. You literally get what you pay for with these Chinese brands. They can charge such prices because, anywhere else, its at least 300-500usd more like Berluti, Stefano Bemer, G&G and Edward Green who easily cross the thousand dollar threshhold for their most basic offerings and you wouldnt see much difference if at all(brand, lasts and history mainly contribute to these prices). Appreciate the boots for what they are. If all you want to do is play politics, just say that from the start.
Given that they are the same price, would be interesting to hear Rose Anvil's head-to-head value comparison to Viberg's Service Boots. Also, is there a price difference between the ones made by Lars in Norway and those made in China?
@@Booksandboots Unless I'm mistaken, whether Norway or China, in both locations they are handmade, using the same materials according to the same specs. I'm not getting why the 50% price difference?
@@MichaelE.Douroux I think It’s due to 2 things really, one is like cost of labor per country. In general China has a lower cost of living so manufacturing can be cheaper w out taking away their quality of life. Like for example you can live a very good life in Asian countries making less money than in Western European countries at least from my experience in the Philippines. And 2 it’s cost of labor is divided up more amongst multiple workers that run a tight operation vs one man who is making everything himself. One person making a single high quality product is always gonna be more expensive than the same product w the some quality and construction being made at a higher scale. Lars actually commented on this post so you can find his comment and dm him directly if you wanna know why :) scale usually cuts down on cost vs the work of a single man making everything himself
@@MichaelE.Douroux because lars is smaller scale and has to pay himself enough to live in norway. IB has economies of scale and pays their workers much less.
@@MichaelE.Douroux "...in both locations they are handmade, using the same materials according to the same specs..." In one location, a guy literally walks down the street and buys all the materials to make boots. In the other location, a guy can buy basically NONE of the materials to make boots locally and must source them from outside. Now thinking about how this affects everything else downstream. Think about shipping out of a small town in Norway vs shipping out of the 'shoe making capitol of China'. There's SO many variables going on here - and being in an industrial hub vs literally not even being close to a [relevant] industrial hub is huge by itself.
I love your channel and have learned so much more about boots than I ever thought I'd imagine. My Israeli Army boots were fairly comfortable but absolutely nothing beats the comfort and speedy lacing of my Gen I hot weather boots, what I prefer to call "Desert Stormers". Sure wish I had those in my army service, would have made getting dressed in an alert so much more faster and less awkward....
I’m curious where the puncture test and Other objective tests were. I’m sure Portland leather would’ve loved to have a 20 minute spot to make all of their wonderful claims without all of the objective testing to refute them 🤣
XBXS is machine lasted and machine goodyear welted. Iron boot is hand lasted and either handsewn welted or handsewn stitch down. Also XBXS use foam and iron boot use wool for filling.
Very nice design. I wished it’s machine sewn and a bit cheaper. I really can’t tell the difference between this and viberg stitching and no one is going to lay flat to see it.
Im gonna need better leather for that price....gonna need some Wickett and Craig. Dont know why they would use Seidel for such a expensive service boot.
The only change I would make to make them even better is do a 360 good year welt. That way Trent and Heath can resole them. They have a note that they only do good year welt.
I know rose anvil still has a long life ahead of it because I’m always wondering now what the internals of any loafer I casually see online and get sad there’s not a video of it!
A quality boot made in China for its dirt cheap labor, though in this case instead of passing the saving on to the customer like GS, they pass it on to themselves. Same price as Viberg is insane and Viberg has a phenomenally higer labor cost for its worker. None of these questions are asked of course because he us being paid off. Ill give these a miss.
Completely different boots, materials and construction method, with Viberg you are getting a 500 dollar boot for 1,000 because they're made in Vancouver, with these you are getting a 2,500-5,000 dollar boot for less than 1,000 because they are made in China.
Exactly. Whites and Nicks sell $800 boots and probably make a 10% profit. This guy is selling $800 boots and is making probably closer to an 80% profit. His entire business model banks on people not caring about the fact that he's exploiting third world labour.
The concept in a Norwegian context is taken from the folk costume "bunad" which is a Norwegian tradition with roots from the Middle Ages. Traditionally, the bunad was sewn by the women in the family and passed down to the next generation. In more modern times, the bunad is sewn by specialized small manufacturers in Norway with local materials. The price is high (approx. $5,000 or more incl. silver jewelry) due to high local costs and wages. This eventually led to some manufacturers moving production to, among other places, China. However, the retail price of Chinese-made bunads is not significantly lower and the profit margin is therefore large. There are generally many complaints that the quality is not the same as the Norwegian-made bunads and that the loss of jobs to China is unfortunate.
@@adamcuthbert9498 You have no idea what a boot actually costs to make in materials if you honestly believe these are $2500 - $5000 boots. The bulk of the cost comes from the skilled labour, not the materials. One type of leather over another might add a few extra hundred to the price at best.
Yearn are another dress boot from China considered by many to be amongst the best made boots in the world. Good and talented boot makers inChina tend to go for the high end as it's hard to sell good quality for a good price in China. People can always find cheaper here. So they tend to push the quality to the max and then try to sell them for a fair price.
Regardless of the boot’s quality, the fact that it’s made in china and it costs more than a pair of nicks boots is outrageous. I get that it is finished well and maybe im just not a dress boot dude but I could get a pair of hiking boots from nicks and iron rangers for the same price as for one of these shoes that i would only wear on occassion
Done consultancy work in manufacturing: China indeed has been used as a footwear manufacturing hub for lower to mid tier shoes, and that has been the perception people have gotten as to that being it all it can do: not true. China can make luxury goods to a quality standard as good as anything in the US, Europe or Japan...but the price advantage diminishes somewhat. Right now, Bally produces many of its shoes in China, as do other high end brands for their sneakers and dress shoes. Judge the product on its merits, not the perception.
I will agree that the tongue looks a little thin compared to everything else in the boot. I prefer a little heavier leather for the tongue. I have a pair of Truman’s with a thin tongue compared to my other Truman’s and it’s a big deal.
I just hope the majority of the pricetags for these boots is going to that small team of artisans in Guangzhou, and this is not a case of these Nordic guys undercompensating them while lining their own pockets. It's Rose Anvil's responsibility to attain transparency on this matter. I'm 100% happy paying even above $1000 for a boot of this quality made in China by those skilled Chinese craftsmen, so long as they're actually being paid what they deserve.
IB owner, IB us distribution, lars, and ticho all taking a cut of these boots. not much left for the actual workers unfortunately. Not hating on Lars as he deserves something for his work and designs, but it is what it is.
@@zaszzAs of writing this, three years into the collaboration, nearly all of my earnings from this venture have been put back into ordering more lasts, materials and sourcing leather for future boot makeups. Oh and I splurge on a set of shocks for my car when it was in dire need of them. Other than that I haven’t taken a cent out of the company, and I don’t even have a registered business. This is a labor of love for me and I honestly don’t care about making money from it at all.
@@zaszzthe workers would get paid their salary, not a portion of sales. Their pay wouldn't be affected by whether they're working on a Collab boot or not. Maintaining quality like this means keeping around a skilled workforce, and it sounds like they're paid a living wage and treated well.
Do the Nocta "Love You Forever" AF1s. They allegedly have higher leather quality than regular AF1s. Drake influenced the design and it'd be interesting to see if it's a marketing scam
When I hear "made in China" I automatically imagine sweat shop massive operation where the only goal is massive volume. It's obvious this is a very different concept. Love the idea of someone who simply won't make compromises. Neat boot.
Sweatshops exist in pretty much every poorer country that we exported our industrial labor to. Made in Vietnam? Possibly a sweatshop, same thing for Mexico, Cambodia, Peru, etc etc.
@@hewhodoes8073it’s the opposite. “Made in Vietnam” is the certified mark for sweatshop. Their workmanship is much worse than China for a little lower price. I worked directly with a few of them and they themselves respect Chinese manufacturers workmanship, who probably own parts of their operation anyway, as Chinese manufacturers are offshoring works to Vietnam.
China is a large country with a lot of skilled workers and artisans. You should go to an art market in china and see the level of skill that the craftsmen have in pottery, painting, furniture making and design. Its more than just sweatshops there, there are a billion people spread over a large area. I'm not chinese, I just lived there as an expat for a few years in high school.
@@andrewnicon Yeah, Chinese people can be as talented as any other people from any other country or continent. The reason why Chinese products have historically been crappy (at least since WWII) is because companies, often from the west, want to cost cut and increase the share holder profits as much as humanly possible. That's why sweat shops exist, not because the Chinese just have a genetic propensity for them or whatever.
My only gripe, there is multiple stories over the years of manufacturers baiting and switching on the final production run, that's the only thing worth being sceptical about
Did you forget to mention that this video was sponsored? Who the hell pays almost a grand for made in China boots? At that price point you have your pick of the litter from any Western high end boot maker.
Why not these? They're comparable or better than any of the other brands. Ergo, they have a price Personally, I'd rather pay a Chinese what he's worth than paying over the odds for something worth half the price just because it was made 'in house'
@@RyTrapp0 Is it irrational to want workers to be treated with dignity and paid a fair wage? Is it irrational to want to help your domestic economy instead of help destroy it?
I guess I'm the guy thats going to say......they could be the best boots ever made in the history of the world but being made in China is a hard pass for me.
@@chinatownboy7482 I’m not getting deep into politic here, but Taiwanese people like to think their Republic of Formosa as a country, whereas China sees it as one of their provinces. Taiwan sets itself apart from China in terms of political system, and is protected by the U.S. and allies if any invasion is attempted.
Cool boot but the salesman seems pretty slimy. Kinda disappointed in Weston fro having him right next to him. I do whatever I can to not support Chinese manufacturing and an overpriced boot isn’t going to change it
@@Booksandboots never heard of him but he comes off as a slimy used car salesman in this video. It’s like he’s reading from a marketing brief. Especially all the China glazing
@@Hanitcal69 because he’s friends w all Parties involved and loves the boots. He does admit he’s partnered w them and doesn’t hide from it. Lol. I try and sell brands I love to others too
Hey! Lars from Østmo here. They aren’t based on M77, not sure why that is the picture used to illustrate a vintage Norwegian military boot in the video. They’re based on the earlier “Feltstøvel” (field boot) patterns from the 40s, 50s and 60s.
@@benitobenedictobenitez2646 no, I just chose to not use the commie spelling. Uighur is an acceptable Cyrillic spelling, and not the Chinese communist one. You seem to lean commie in multiple ways. Nice try though.
This is a respectable comment, thank you for this. Instead of bashing them because they are Chinese made im glad you appreciate the skill and work put in but won’t support not because of the brand or the people but the country they are in due to economic and political reasons. Plus a respectful comment. 🙏🏼🙏🏼 as an Iron Boot fanatic I really appreciate this comment
You're bolstering their economy no matter what you do unless you're currently a hermit living off of plants and animals you grew without needing any external inputs. They're the United State's largest trade partner.
If you have any electronics - including whatever you typed this one, or work for a company that uses any form of electronics, you are already bolstering China's economy. That's if you actively avoid wearing or eating or drinking anything from China, which I can still believe
I live in Florida and work outside in the heat. I am a fence contractor and would like to know what is the best hot weather leather work boots for hot and muddy work conditions.
What makes you think they don’t deserve to get paid for their hard work? China has long ceased to be a Third World economy and they’re catching up with the Japanese and the Koreans in quality.
Never doubt Chinese made could be high quality. With that price, people who made those just earned 1/10 of hourly pay compared to the people working in US boots makers, you are a criminal.
I work for a manufacturing company that has a lot of components made in China, the way they explain it is that someone in China can make whatever you want in whatever way you want it in the most cost effective way possible, if you want it really cheap and cheaply made they'll do it, if you want it super high quality with high tolerances they'll do that too and every way in between.
Chinese manufacturing is all depending on the company contracting it or owning the factory....
Most companies just use cheaper chinese labor for cheap stuff, don't enforce any quality control, oversight, or anything and literally tells the manufacturers make us the cheapest shit that barely meets western specs so we can sell it for cheap.
There's zero issues with quality manufacturing in China, just most companies doesn't want to manufacturer quality products in China...
that's true
A lot of people around the world only know of cheap Chinese products because of the importer in their country. The importer in their country is the one who values quantity over quality. Kind of a slap in the face and saying that their customers can't afford the better quality products from China. Maybe it's true to a certain extent.
Lars from Østmo here. Just here to correct some facts that are a little off in the video:
- Insole is 6mm., not 6oz. 6mm. is closer to 15oz.
- The lining is cowhide, not deer. It Comes from the Masoni tannery in Italy.
- We switched from using steel + leather shanks to all-leather shanks after the boot showcased in the video was made. All of these come with all-leather shanks now.
- When Ticho says he just finished the Stitchdown Patina Thundedome in a pair of our collab boots, the pictures are of some ugly boots I made 10 years ago, haha!
Wow, imagine being there to tell us all about how amazing these $900 boots are - and yet apparently knowing nothing about them haha. On the opposite end of that spectrum, thanks Lars for speaking up and correcting it.
@@mdbourne that's what happens when you're a podcaster that repeats buzzwords and marketing blurbs and never worked on a boot in your life
Thanks Lars! Do you also stitch your boots by hand at 3mm? I have a little experience leathercrafting and I can't really comprehend the precision needed to achieve that.
@@ayasugihada agree, I was thinking the same. To me it looks like a machine stitch - or i guess by someone who is absolutely incredible and so basically is a ‘machine’ haha. If those are all hand stitches, hats off to whoever did them.
It honestly seems like the "boot guy" on the video is not helping you in any way.
Stridewise and Rose Anvil in the same week, this dude is on a tour to push these hard.
gotta make sure ostmo, ticho, IB owner, and IB us distributor all get their cut while the actual people making the shoes get pennies on the dollar.
@@zaszz you have literally F all idea how much each make 🤡
@@zaszz You should get into the biz since it's so lucrative
is it better than grant stone?
Hahaha how are sales ?!? $$$$$$$$$$
Same price range as Viberg is crazy. They’re beautiful boots, however I can’t help but feel like some objectivity is lost when the salesman is sitting right beside you.
He's paid off
The reason why I'm happy to pay viberg prices is to pay all the skilled labourers to live in Canada. With this brand, the skilled labourers are living in China. So where is that price going? No thanks, I'm not gonna buy boots to pay...uuh..."boot bro"s.
They are superior to Viberg in every conceivable way, Vibergs are a 500 dollar boot for over 1,000 because they are made in Vancouver, these are 5,000 dollar boot for under 1,000 because they are made in China.
@@henkrpe3249 See here lies the problem. People like you only think artisans in China only deserves cents because of the stigma that China only makes cheap crap. Now even with proof that there are equally skilled people in China can make the same quality product or even higher quality than whats expected. Still you say it has to be cheap because it is not made by western countries. So whats do you have to say now?
@@netmatrix75the debate isn’t that the workers are skilled or not, its that they are being paid peanuts. Thats the entire reason the labor has been moved to china, vs Europe or North America. And since they aren’t paying the high labor, it’s logical to assume the price should be less. The actual materials don’t make up a large % in cost, it’s the labor. And for this brand, all that labor savings, instead of being past to the end consumer is all going into 1 or 2 guys pockets - not the skilled labor. Thats the issue people are complaining about.
In this video, Rose Anvil cuts himself a check.
Absolutely. Weston has a platform now. He's gonna sell it.
Wow! The thickness and number of layers on the sole of those boots, outstanding!
Its a show-model. The salesman is next to him. The real models are NOT this quality
Any updates on the Japanese WWII collab?
fr i’ve been waiting on an update for ages
Ouch...that price tag is painful...
Maybe look at Meermin
Lars needs to get paid. Ticho needs to get paid. Chang needs to get paid. Weston needs to get paid. Who does not know this?
@@user-lc5uo5uj2f supports his statement that the price is high. You are agreeing with him and explaining why
compared to buying china there is a quite a markup😂 like 3 times the price what they ask in china
@@user-lc5uo5uj2f And that's exactly the problem you run into with these multi party collaborations. The price becomes inflated not because you're getting a better product but because everybody needs to get their cut. And in the end, it's the customer who's getting screwed.
Made in Italy with Chinese worker.
Made in Canada with Indian worker.
Made in USA with Mexican worker.
Doesn't Matter where its made anymore. It all about the material and QC of the brand
Even when florsheim and other big named manufactures made shoes in their factories they often brough in seasonal workers primarily from Italy, what's your point?
China didn't lure Europe into 3 illegal wars. I have no interest in supporting the US more then any other nation
The difference is labor cost, China can do quality for cheap.
The piss take here is they are passing the savings on to themselves and not the customer.
That's not true at all. Worker rights/safety regulations/wages, environmental responsibility, and supporting your own community/country are all bigger factors than the end product. I don't care how good a pair of boots is if it was stitched together by some 14 year old kid working 12 hour shifts 7 days a week for $2/hour, all the while getting long-term health damage from inhaling toxic glue fumes in an unventilated warehouse all day long.
@@wave2k868 they just want to be able to maximize profit as much as possibly so they go with the country that can do it for the cheapest, I'm sure if in nigeria they had the machinery and semi trained labor they would outsource it there.
A friend of mine who is very familiar with Chinese manufacturing once said that Chinese factories will build whatever quality you are willing to pay for. So to say Chinese = junk is silly.
Like any factory, the level of quality control is what matters. The best way to ensure quality is by employing the best makers. That’s why I like Jim Green boots and shoes. The company continues to pay people more than other companies in the area. Don’t get me wrong, I’d pay more for boots made in the USA but no one makes the JG style. I do, however, have Horween Chromexcel boat shoes made in Maine.
He cannot be trusted to question quality control given he has the actual salesman of the company sat next to him. This video is as reliable as the old mvmt watch ads
@@MyHallothere Shit or get off the pot - what's wrong with the boots?
@@RyTrapp0 ok to put it simply, we have no ability to trust if anything shown in this video is accurate to the actual shipped product given the salesman is onsite and it wouldn't be unlikely that a company would use a higher finished boot for marketing, they are also significantly overpriced considering the highest cost when making them is the price of labour. They will not pay as much as any of the pnw book makers to the craftsman and instead will pocket the extra
@@MyHallothere THEN REPORT THEM TO THE FTC FOR LYING
Are you serious dude? Do you actually think CZcams is just a "get out of jail free" card to completely violate FTC regulations and commit fraud? Are you actually that that unware?
best boots from China is Quan shoemaker.
Much wool is so cheap that it costs more to shear the sheep than the fleece sells for. In the UK the traditional hill sheep wool can sell for less than $2 per fleece. And you'll be able to fill a lot of boots with that fleece. Admittedly wool has to be washed and processed but cork has to be harvested and mixed with binding agents. Is it really more expensive than cork ?
Cork is also cheap af my friend, and the quantity a boot takes is very very very small. The filling is just a matter of preference and function, you will save literally cents choosing one over the other
@@CarlosValentor Thanks. I thought that might be the case. I can understand using wool for environmental reasons as the binding agents in cork filler are not particularly nice but it's not going to make any difference to the price of a boot like this.
They are not buying full fleece. They use scrap. The stuff that is swept off the processing room floor.
May as well use human hair swept off the barbershop floor.
Preference. Other people prefer cork. I like girls.
@@user-lc5uo5uj2f That's a bit of an assumption there ? Anyway, the point was that the reviewers seem to think wool is a premium material which is only true for certain types like Merino wool. Much of the full fleece wool produced by sheep is chucked away or used in bulk for home insulation or sound proofing etc. and is not expensive.
I see this video as a paid ad
That's because it is.
As if every rose anvil video isn’t a paid ad lmao?
@@iftcar2950 yeah dude sold out a while ago
"And I am tired of pretending it's not."
Exactly!
I think a very important question to ask specifically because you have the actual salesman in the video, is this boot representative of an actual production or was it made specially at higher finishing for rose anvil?
Interestingly enough these are samples, so the materials used in this are actually a little different than the true boot. The True boot uses only leather shank instead of leather and steel to cut down on weight and the insoles used are 6mm which is closer to 15oz
@@Booksandboots so he's reviewing a book that has nothing to do with the actual sale model and not disclosing it? Channel has really changed with popularity
@@MyHallothere His videos are fine as long as they aren't sponsored by the shoe/boot manufacturer and he's the one foing the talking. Most of these sponsored videos are disasters as the community will very quickly notice the change from non-sponsored videos.
@@I_THE_ME except he's openly admitted that he will downplay the issues of certain companies so they will continue to do work with him. Easy evidence of that is the westco boots that he glossed over the cardboard heel stack on $700+ boots
These are representative of Iron Boots quality.
It's disingenuous to say the sample boots "have nothing to do" with the final product.
I've always thought that it must be tough for Chinese craftsmen to get recognised as quality.
The comments in this section are weird AF.
Everyone here wants footwear to be made better and last longer, but then they complain when footwear is made better and to last longer with people who know what they're doing and like doing it. This whole sentiment of lowering costs is what got us to the point where work boots are made to last 6 to 12 months. It's fine to not be able to afford them - I can't afford them. They aren't meant to be boots that you just buy at a store, they're a luxury good that borders on a work of art.
Then you have the China thing. You're fine paying 8 dudes in a shed in the US, Canada or other western country to make your expensive boots, but you won't pay 8 dudes in a shed in China to make the exact same type of boot? It's this weird misplaced economic nationalism that makes no sense to me. You should have issues giving your money to large corporations that exploit people in China to make their cheap shitty products, not a bunch of dudes that enjoy making quality products. At least, I hope the dudes and lasses are well paid, they deserve it for all this labor, if they aren't... well, then we have a problem. Not to mention that most of the products, technology and other shit in your house is already made in China. You aren't escaping the fact that your money will end up there.
And I get that this video is pretty much an ad. You gotta do what you gotta do. Weston might've embelished and been more charitable because the boots were provided, and because Ticho is there, but IMO, it's inarguable that the boots are made well and that boots of that quality often cost that much. Just remember how much Alden's cost for the quality they are.
You should check out Canada West boots they’re made in Canada and make steel toe work boots cowboy boots engineer boots and service style boots solid price to
Got two pairs of Canada West Wm moorby boots and they are excellent
@@YasuOsatoku Brahma boots is Canada wests western line they have some solid cowboy boots they make all sorts of cowboy boot styles
@@YasuOsatokunot cowboy boots but Webb Boot Co. out of Slocan BC makes some incredible work boots made by hand by one guy out of the thickest leather I’ve seen someone make a boot out of, and he charges pretty much the exact same price for a 10” logger made from 8-9oz veg tan as these guys want for a service boot
@@NiiminTVjust ordered a pair of the Canada West Red Dog lace to toe boots, they use 7-8 oz Seidel work leather too and full leather mid soles and heel stacks (on some models) and I got mine for under 300 cad out the door
I think it would be a really neat comparison to see if there’s any differences between the boots they brand themselves and the ones they’re contracted to make (the Dayton CSA work boots and non MTO bikers are made by Canada west, and there’s also a line of them sold by Bailey’s forestry supply as the “red dawg” logger boots)
Fell in love with Iron Boots at Boot Camp in Brooklyn. These look phenomenal.
Have you reviewed Quan the shoemaker? His boots are the most beautiful boots made in China by far.
The grain of the insole leather is so coarse, it looks like OSB from Home Depot when they show it magnified.
That aint 6oz, just looking at it you can tell that insole leather is thick af.
If you want to compare PNW brands with these, compare their MTO prices. Vibergs do not have the level of QC that Iron boots has for sure, and let's not even get started on the finishing. But at the same time, Viberg is a comparatively huge, way more orders, they produce faster and more boots per month than Iron boots.
All american bootmakers have had their fair share of qc issues that are quite well documented if you're in the boot scene. Nicks, Whites, JKs
Dr Sole is generally the superior outsole compared to Vibram or Dainite. They are just cheaper to purchase and import for Asian makers, so Chinese and Indonesian makers in particular use them more and are less common in the western hemisphere.
If you're not already biased, you know that these boots are simply better finished, with more skill and time required to make the boots to that specification. Comparing these with japanese makers would be a fairer comparison. And yet people dont seem to have a problem paying 1 to 2 thousand dollars for their products.
It's the same in the dress shoe industry. Brands like acme shoemaker, Oct Tenth, yearn also cost within the 700-1000usd range. And they consistently produce better footwear than C&J, Carmina, Alden who also compete within the same price range. You literally get what you pay for with these Chinese brands. They can charge such prices because, anywhere else, its at least 300-500usd more like Berluti, Stefano Bemer, G&G and Edward Green who easily cross the thousand dollar threshhold for their most basic offerings and you wouldnt see much difference if at all(brand, lasts and history mainly contribute to these prices).
Appreciate the boots for what they are. If all you want to do is play politics, just say that from the start.
Given that they are the same price, would be interesting to hear Rose Anvil's head-to-head value comparison to Viberg's Service Boots.
Also, is there a price difference between the ones made by Lars in Norway and those made in China?
Yep! Lars makes his for at around 1500$ as he’s a one man band and does each boot himself
@@Booksandboots Unless I'm mistaken, whether Norway or China, in both locations they are handmade, using the same materials according to the same specs. I'm not getting why the 50% price difference?
@@MichaelE.Douroux I think It’s due to 2 things really, one is like cost of labor per country. In general China has a lower cost of living so manufacturing can be cheaper w out taking away their quality of life. Like for example you can live a very good life in Asian countries making less money than in Western European countries at least from my experience in the Philippines. And 2 it’s cost of labor is divided up more amongst multiple workers that run a tight operation vs one man who is making everything himself. One person making a single high quality product is always gonna be more expensive than the same product w the some quality and construction being made at a higher scale. Lars actually commented on this post so you can find his comment and dm him directly if you wanna know why :) scale usually cuts down on cost vs the work of a single man making everything himself
@@MichaelE.Douroux because lars is smaller scale and has to pay himself enough to live in norway. IB has economies of scale and pays their workers much less.
@@MichaelE.Douroux "...in both locations they are handmade, using the same materials according to the same specs..."
In one location, a guy literally walks down the street and buys all the materials to make boots. In the other location, a guy can buy basically NONE of the materials to make boots locally and must source them from outside. Now thinking about how this affects everything else downstream. Think about shipping out of a small town in Norway vs shipping out of the 'shoe making capitol of China'.
There's SO many variables going on here - and being in an industrial hub vs literally not even being close to a [relevant] industrial hub is huge by itself.
I purchased drop 7…Iron Boots are grails for me! I am stoked to get them…soon !
I love your channel and have learned so much more about boots than I ever thought I'd imagine. My Israeli Army boots were fairly comfortable but absolutely nothing beats the comfort and speedy lacing of my Gen I hot weather boots, what I prefer to call "Desert Stormers". Sure wish I had those in my army service, would have made getting dressed in an alert so much more faster and less awkward....
Have you ever considered reviewing loafers? Like Thursday’s Lincoln. I would like to see that. Either way, thank you for the content you create.
Wow, finesse on another level with a price tag to match.
Curious for the price about XBXS vs iron boots for quality due to similar pricing and Ticho had represented both
I’m curious where the puncture test and
Other objective tests were. I’m sure Portland leather would’ve loved to have a 20 minute spot to make all of their wonderful claims without all of the objective testing to refute them 🤣
XBXS is machine lasted and machine goodyear welted. Iron boot is hand lasted and either handsewn welted or handsewn stitch down. Also XBXS use foam and iron boot use wool for filling.
"The Downfall of Rose Anvil.."
Very nice design. I wished it’s machine sewn and a bit cheaper. I really can’t tell the difference between this and viberg stitching and no one is going to lay flat to see it.
This is the same price as Viberg?
@@df540148 somewhat the same. To me this is comparable to the viberg cxl 2030 service boot which is typically $860.
Im gonna need better leather for that price....gonna need some Wickett and Craig. Dont know why they would use Seidel for such a expensive service boot.
Japanese brand Visvim also has their boots manufactured in China. Goods made in China can be worst or best of quality depends on budget.
I disagree, at every price level the value is there.
Vivsim is Blake stitched … ummmm fashion brand IMO
So? I don’t buy those either.
@@JohnJones-ty6fjlet’s feature them now to compare .
@@JohnJones-ty6fj You are not the target customer chill then
Do a pair of luos jiet Indy boot please.
^ this. Ive seen their website with the indy boot in lots of leathers and it looks pretty impressive.
The soul stitching looks like it only goes less than 270°degrees months top. How is the rest of it attached?
Nails
The only change I would make to make them even better is do a 360 good year welt. That way Trent and Heath can resole them. They have a note that they only do good year welt.
LOL, the boot crowd is pretty anti China judging by the comments.
I don't mind made in china as long as the quality is good and are in Chinese prices.
Facts. The boot crowd would be glazing these if they were made in the usa.
Can you do a review of the original vasque sundowners vs a new pair? I would love to see that.
Nice boot but not made for a average working person. Unless you put on a credit card or layaway plan.
I know rose anvil still has a long life ahead of it because I’m always wondering now what the internals of any loafer I casually see online and get sad there’s not a video of it!
Good looking boot, now just get that price right!
A quality boot made in China for its dirt cheap labor, though in this case instead of passing the saving on to the customer like GS, they pass it on to themselves.
Same price as Viberg is insane and Viberg has a phenomenally higer labor cost for its worker.
None of these questions are asked of course because he us being paid off.
Ill give these a miss.
Completely different boots, materials and construction method, with Viberg you are getting a 500 dollar boot for 1,000 because they're made in Vancouver, with these you are getting a 2,500-5,000 dollar boot for less than 1,000 because they are made in China.
Why are people here pretending that rose anvil doesn’t get paid for every one of these videos lmao.
Exactly. Whites and Nicks sell $800 boots and probably make a 10% profit. This guy is selling $800 boots and is making probably closer to an 80% profit. His entire business model banks on people not caring about the fact that he's exploiting third world labour.
The concept in a Norwegian context is taken from the folk costume "bunad" which is a Norwegian tradition with roots from the Middle Ages. Traditionally, the bunad was sewn by the women in the family and passed down to the next generation. In more modern times, the bunad is sewn by specialized small manufacturers in Norway with local materials. The price is high (approx. $5,000 or more incl. silver jewelry) due to high local costs and wages. This eventually led to some manufacturers moving production to, among other places, China. However, the retail price of Chinese-made bunads is not significantly lower and the profit margin is therefore large. There are generally many complaints that the quality is not the same as the Norwegian-made bunads and that the loss of jobs to China is unfortunate.
@@adamcuthbert9498 You have no idea what a boot actually costs to make in materials if you honestly believe these are $2500 - $5000 boots. The bulk of the cost comes from the skilled labour, not the materials. One type of leather over another might add a few extra hundred to the price at best.
Yearn are another dress boot from China considered by many to be amongst the best made boots in the world. Good and talented boot makers inChina tend to go for the high end as it's hard to sell good quality for a good price in China. People can always find cheaper here. So they tend to push the quality to the max and then try to sell them for a fair price.
Regardless of the boot’s quality, the fact that it’s made in china and it costs more than a pair of nicks boots is outrageous. I get that it is finished well and maybe im just not a dress boot dude but I could get a pair of hiking boots from nicks and iron rangers for the same price as for one of these shoes that i would only wear on occassion
The price of an item doesn't reflect how much you use it, it reflects how much it costs to make and keep the lights on...
Time is money, and the price is what you pay for their labor and talent of making them fully handmade; kinda like what @RyTrapp0 said
@@RyTrapp0 bad business model imo.
Do you have a problem with Italian boots or Japanese boots costing that much? You have a race problem, not a cost problem.
Done consultancy work in manufacturing: China indeed has been used as a footwear manufacturing hub for lower to mid tier shoes, and that has been the perception people have gotten as to that being it all it can do: not true. China can make luxury goods to a quality standard as good as anything in the US, Europe or Japan...but the price advantage diminishes somewhat. Right now, Bally produces many of its shoes in China, as do other high end brands for their sneakers and dress shoes.
Judge the product on its merits, not the perception.
I will agree that the tongue looks a little thin compared to everything else in the boot. I prefer a little heavier leather for the tongue. I have a pair of Truman’s with a thin tongue compared to my other Truman’s and it’s a big deal.
The only place that could do it better was Chinese? I find that hard to believe 😂 how much did they pay you, Rose?
Maybe the only place that would keep it under $1,000
His standard rate is 20k apparently
Tell us about where these boots are lacking please
Pay enough, and he will say anything.
If Ostmo thought Iron Boots met their quality standards for a collab, hard to argue with them.
I just hope the majority of the pricetags for these boots is going to that small team of artisans in Guangzhou, and this is not a case of these Nordic guys undercompensating them while lining their own pockets. It's Rose Anvil's responsibility to attain transparency on this matter. I'm 100% happy paying even above $1000 for a boot of this quality made in China by those skilled Chinese craftsmen, so long as they're actually being paid what they deserve.
IB owner, IB us distribution, lars, and ticho all taking a cut of these boots. not much left for the actual workers unfortunately. Not hating on Lars as he deserves something for his work and designs, but it is what it is.
@@zaszzAs of writing this, three years into the collaboration, nearly all of my earnings from this venture have been put back into ordering more lasts, materials and sourcing leather for future boot makeups. Oh and I splurge on a set of shocks for my car when it was in dire need of them. Other than that I haven’t taken a cent out of the company, and I don’t even have a registered business. This is a labor of love for me and I honestly don’t care about making money from it at all.
@Fattifolkskremarn not saying you are getting rich off it but it sounds like it's allowing you to invest more into your business.
@@zaszzthe workers would get paid their salary, not a portion of sales. Their pay wouldn't be affected by whether they're working on a Collab boot or not. Maintaining quality like this means keeping around a skilled workforce, and it sounds like they're paid a living wage and treated well.
Almost 900$ for pair of boots that look like 200 boots max. Are u ok? Thats shame that you even mention them after really good shoes on this channel.
Troll
Can you make a video about McKinley boots? Im sure you never have heard about them but i think it would be a really interesting video
Do the Nocta "Love You Forever" AF1s. They allegedly have higher leather quality than regular AF1s. Drake influenced the design and it'd be interesting to see if it's a marketing scam
Marques dropped a new 251.1 "winter" version of his shoes that seem to have only difference being a waterproof coating, time to cook again?
@6:55, is "somebody" a 9 year old?
The toe space looks really cramped.
It’s surpassingly spacious! Tho they have other options w wider toe boxes if you’re interested
Sorry but these boots are not worth that much.
Brunt now has a welted boot, would it be possible to do a review on them and compare to the original brunt boot review you did
If these were half the price, it would be more interesting. But this is well within the price of very nice Western made boots.
Fabulous boots. Such clean workmanship, very impressive. Dare I say… better than Viberg?
Does anyone know any info of the black western shirt in the video? It looks so cool😂
Man, someone spent a heck of a long time hand making those to then have them cut in half lol.
Can you please review the Nike Field Generals? Thanks
It may be high quality but I can not help but wonder if it was made in Mexico that it would be even Higher quality for less Money.
The Chinese guy is Mr. Chang.
When I hear "made in China" I automatically imagine sweat shop massive operation where the only goal is massive volume. It's obvious this is a very different concept. Love the idea of someone who simply won't make compromises. Neat boot.
Sweatshops exist in pretty much every poorer country that we exported our industrial labor to. Made in Vietnam? Possibly a sweatshop, same thing for Mexico, Cambodia, Peru, etc etc.
@@hewhodoes8073it’s the opposite. “Made in Vietnam” is the certified mark for sweatshop. Their workmanship is much worse than China for a little lower price. I worked directly with a few of them and they themselves respect Chinese manufacturers workmanship, who probably own parts of their operation anyway, as Chinese manufacturers are offshoring works to Vietnam.
China is a large country with a lot of skilled workers and artisans. You should go to an art market in china and see the level of skill that the craftsmen have in pottery, painting, furniture making and design. Its more than just sweatshops there, there are a billion people spread over a large area. I'm not chinese, I just lived there as an expat for a few years in high school.
@@andrewnicon Yeah, Chinese people can be as talented as any other people from any other country or continent. The reason why Chinese products have historically been crappy (at least since WWII) is because companies, often from the west, want to cost cut and increase the share holder profits as much as humanly possible. That's why sweat shops exist, not because the Chinese just have a genetic propensity for them or whatever.
Please review the hybrid derby shoes brand, Remagine.
Can you review the Nike Pegasus 39?
My only gripe, there is multiple stories over the years of manufacturers baiting and switching on the final production run, that's the only thing worth being sceptical about
Still zero interest in China work.
Boot Bro..? Hahaha!!
Too 😂
Skilled workers make good products. Not your money issue with Gucchi, it's their workers.
Just found my grail-boots. Devil-dog MTO in Horsebutt. The options are nuts on the website. Ever build a custom light saber? This is more difficult.
Did you forget to mention that this video was sponsored? Who the hell pays almost a grand for made in China boots? At that price point you have your pick of the litter from any Western high end boot maker.
Why not these? They're comparable or better than any of the other brands. Ergo, they have a price
Personally, I'd rather pay a Chinese what he's worth than paying over the odds for something worth half the price just because it was made 'in house'
Someone who doesn't have an irrational personal bias against Chinese people just because of muh politiks
How much do you spend at Panda Express?
@@RyTrapp0 Is it irrational to want workers to be treated with dignity and paid a fair wage? Is it irrational to want to help your domestic economy instead of help destroy it?
Make Puma suede, pls!
I guess I'm the guy thats going to say......they could be the best boots ever made in the history of the world but being made in China is a hard pass for me.
Must have been hard to cut apart such high-quality boots.
Do Matterhorn boots
vans knu skool cut inhalf pls
I thought Dr. Sole was a Taiwanese brand. Unless of course they have their soles made in China. 😅
The brand is headquartered on The Island of Formosa. Taiwan is not recognized as a real country by The United Nations.
@@chinatownboy7482 I’m not getting deep into politic here, but Taiwanese people like to think their Republic of Formosa as a country, whereas China sees it as one of their provinces. Taiwan sets itself apart from China in terms of political system, and is protected by the U.S. and allies if any invasion is attempted.
The price is really high. But damn, these are nice looking boots.
Man those boots look fantastic. Need me a pair.
Cool boot but the salesman seems pretty slimy. Kinda disappointed in Weston fro having him right next to him. I do whatever I can to not support Chinese manufacturing and an overpriced boot isn’t going to change it
Damn calling the legendary Ticho Blanco slimy😂😂
@@Booksandboots never heard of him but he comes off as a slimy used car salesman in this video. It’s like he’s reading from a marketing brief. Especially all the China glazing
@@Hanitcal69definitely not a salesman. Ticho is a legend in the heritage boot community.
@@jacobi.5234 then why is he trying to sell the boot
@@Hanitcal69 because he’s friends w all
Parties involved and loves the boots. He does admit he’s partnered w them and doesn’t hide from it. Lol. I try and sell brands I love to others too
$875 for Seidel leather boots that are made in China? 🙂↔️
are m77 really vintage though, they are still being made
Hey! Lars from Østmo here. They aren’t based on M77, not sure why that is the picture used to illustrate a vintage Norwegian military boot in the video. They’re based on the earlier “Feltstøvel” (field boot) patterns from the 40s, 50s and 60s.
@@Fattifolkskremarn thanks for clarifying
No Uighurs were harmed in the making of this video…maybe…not likely….ok but they got a full portion that day for dinner.
If you care so much about them why you can even spell the word wrong
@@benitobenedictobenitez2646 yeah I have a secretary like you that catches those things. Nice job
@@JohnJones-ty6fj you really know how to pretend to win
@@benitobenedictobenitez2646 no, I just chose to not use the commie spelling. Uighur is an acceptable Cyrillic spelling, and not the Chinese communist one. You seem to lean commie in multiple ways. Nice try though.
@@JohnJones-ty6fj good job for looking up for a reason for your typo
why give it away for free instead of cutting it
These generic B roll clips.... no me gusta.
Still waiting on the Japanese WW II collab...
I respect that the people making these boots actually care and put some thought into it. However I will not be further bolstering China’s economy
This is a respectable comment, thank you for this. Instead of bashing them because they are Chinese made im glad you appreciate the skill and work put in but won’t support not because of the brand or the people but the country they are in due to economic and political reasons. Plus a respectful comment. 🙏🏼🙏🏼 as an Iron Boot fanatic I really appreciate this comment
You're bolstering their economy no matter what you do unless you're currently a hermit living off of plants and animals you grew without needing any external inputs. They're the United State's largest trade partner.
@@hewhodoes8073 LOL, this is so true it is not even funny. That guy is like eating turd and talking turd at the same time.
If you have any electronics - including whatever you typed this one, or work for a company that uses any form of electronics, you are already bolstering China's economy. That's if you actively avoid wearing or eating or drinking anything from China, which I can still believe
@@thesheepthemightythecrazythere's a reason the guy said FURTHER bolstering the Chinese economy. Emphasis on the word FURTHER.
Might be great, would never buy 😅
Ain't spending a penny on Chinese made
liar
@@Goes_the_bandit you salty cause you can't afford anything made elsewhere?
Your iPhone is made in China. Your Nikes are made in China. Panda Express is made in China.
@@MaxxSeemov not salty, pity
I'll stick with my Crockett and Jones and Trickers thanks, proven long term craftsmanship and quality. And cheaper, that was the shock.
Vegan seething W this one 😂
I live in Florida and work outside in the heat. I am a fence contractor and would like to know what is the best hot weather leather work boots for hot and muddy work conditions.
Those flags though. lol
Charging first world craftsmen prices for 3rd world labor
cost
hardest of the hard pass
dont care if its gold plated all red cows.
What makes you think they don’t deserve to get paid for their hard work? China has long ceased to be a Third World economy and they’re catching up with the Japanese and the Koreans in quality.
@@NormanF62
100 percent they should get paid.
are they getting paid, treated properly in safe working environment.
I doubt it.
@@NormanF62 You're delusional. Look at the average wage in China compared to the average wage in Japan. Compare workers rights as well.
This boot is Weston's made-to-order bait. Maybe should've been your 1m sub video.
it's like wearing the whole zoo on your feet. personally i think such expensive boots should have somehow padded collar
Looks like a 100 dollar boot made with 200 dollar materials...
CCP boots. Great. 🥴
Did he talk to you about the party member of the company?
Never doubt Chinese made could be high quality. With that price, people who made those just earned 1/10 of hourly pay compared to the people working in US boots makers, you are a criminal.
Where can I buy this?
Most stuff you guys have, good or bad, are made in China. Trash talking "Made in China" is overreaction.