"The father had a shot gun blast to the back of his head" the video states. That means that they were attacked out of the blue and indicated they weren't in imminent danger that night. How that doesnt stick out to you all and more people is quite disturbing.
@HaleThePanda How these parents kept naked pictures of their young aged boys waist down with heads cut off tucked away in envelope in the mothers handwriting labeled 6th birthday.... now that’s disturbing!!!!
YoYo32071 i dont believe their parents was evil. how sad they can speak the truth becuz they are dead. can you see their eyes? they dont even look like they suffered at all.
Ok but their dad was a hollywood exec, LOOK UP the open secret OR the hollywood pedophilia ring, execs in hollywood do things that these boys claim ALL the time to little boys, they just cover it up
28 years. They’ve been in jail since 1990. At this point they’ve been locked up longer than the age they were when they committed the crimes. Lyle was 21 and Erik was 19.
In my opinion, both the brothers and the parents are the victims and attackers. I think that the parents are victims for being murdered. I sincerely think they did something to cause trauma (stuff like abuse) to their kids because children don't just murder their parents like they would kill a fly. The brothers were probably victims because of trauma but then again they did kill their parents.
momjeans78 their father did! He died by one hit BANG! dead, he wouldn't have known how brutal it was. Same with animals. But they're innocent and slaughted everyday. Animals don't deserve it. Humans on the other hand..well I'd do the same if i were in the same situation as them, alot of people would.
@@yelizjan they couldn’t u should watch the testimonies it tells u everything smh.. the dad said “ if u run away or tell anyone I will kill you” the dad was basically controlling them
@@kris-eb8gv smh, no she didn’t... they reported the shooting after the murder..she saying “ they shouldn’t have killed “ they should’ve reported from the police u understand??
La La Not sure but I believe at the 2nd trial the sexual abuse was not brought up. Those tears were for real. Their parents were monsters. They should be out of prison not in it.
becasue thats how our fuckin brain works. even if theyre furious and know that it did not feel good, theyre somehow conditioned to do those things and been told its okay and normal. u need a goooood brainrewind to vanish that
The abuse wasn’t proven in the second trial that convicted the brothers due to sufficient evidence. Also the judge didn’t want the trial to be seen as a child abuse trial. Since the alleged abusers are dead.
It was their only way to escape abuse, they weren't able to tell that to anyone, to call the police, even Jose threatened to kill them if they run away. They had only two ways. To kill themselves, or their abusers.
You have to think..... it's one thing for just "one" son to do it BUT what's so important is that both wouldn't just revolt like that. It's just how I feel. Something or someone had to have made them do such
I’m very pleased that there’s a movement to get the brothers a fair trial, and eventually to free them after 31 years in prison. I can’t believe how horrendous things can happen to anybody. Their whole lives were spent inside the walls of abuse and confinement.
The way that Lyle looked at his brother is everything. They have each other and the punishment should be enough. Life in prison cured nothing, they were abused by their father.
They both are married now. And i believe they should be released from prison. They deserve to have happy lives despite their past. When abuse happens you just can't move on and let it go.
Evidence of abuse from relatives, friends, teachers, coaches - eyewitness accounts, of which there were many but the prosecution in the second trial blocked those witnesses because they were desperate to get a conviction.
You're ignorant. The parents were murdered and that obviously makes them victims of a crime. Sorry your emotions and lust is getting in the way of seeing that.
Money was definitely not the motive. I think the spending spree they went on was to distract themselves from the pain and guilt of killing their parents. The parents made them fear for their lives. Free them!
@@llhd1475 it doesnt take a lot of knowledge to understand that someone who commits a crime should face the consequences of their actions, no matter the person's trauma and the character of the person the crime was commited against. I dont deny they were abused, I believe it. I still think they should carry out their sentences as intended though because that was the consequence of the crime commited. We can agree to disagree if that's fine with you though because I'm personally not interested in continuing this conversation. I hope you have a good day!
everyone on here pisses me off, anyone who is sexually abused is broken on the inside, any women who is physically abused is broken, anyone who is physically, emotionally or sexually abused will be broken, so to expect them to just grab their shit and leave it's ridiculous. one learns to love and hate their abuser at the same time. unless your psychologically treated your grasp of what is right and wrong is not right, my father used to beat my mom and brother frequently, and I hated him for it, but I still wanted him to love me, I instead started developing this ssense of hate towards my brother and mother for always fucking up and causing my dad's anger. my reality was fucked. I was lucky to move out at 16 to another country and see another reality and educate myself to understand the one and only monster was my father and we were all victims of his perpetrations.
KJS1444 what there parents did to them was a horrible crime. They were abused for years. I’m not saying what Erik and Lyle did was right, but unless you have gone through what they did you shouldn’t so quick to judge their actions.
Priscila Llanos So what should their punishment be for murder? Being abused in any way is horrible, yes I understand that. I'm just saying it still doesn't give anyone the right to murder and if you choose to do so, then pay the price. I'm not judging anyone, I'm stating the law. If they are even teling the truth mind you. I don't know if they are and either do you.
Exactly - and people try to judge others who had to deal,from the inside, with sick relationships. Of course it affects people's ability to think or reason.
Queen_0f Slayyy Again. What should punishment be then? I'm not going to excuse murder sorry. I didn't a perfect childhood without going into detail. You have no idea if I was sexually abused or not. Just because I have my own opinions doesn't mean I don't understand abuse. It still does not give 2 men the right to shoot and kill their parents. If they choose to do that , then pay the consequences. Pretty simple. You sure don't get a free pass for murder because you were abused. Thus is just my opinion, you a free to have yours as well.
Having lived through an abusive relationship where the abuser would look for sick twisted ways to break me down emotionally physically sexually etc I totally understand where they are coming from. I think it's sick that a jury would sentence these kids to prison their testimony is so vivid and effortless it comes from memory - people have to understand that you can live an abuser and still be terrified of them - The way people look at us in disgust or disbelief when we discuss the level of torment - it's never about the bad times it's about the good moments the abuser allows you to have. If an abuser was bad all the time it'd be easy to recognise and leave - So sorry for these men but that's the justice system for you. Women/ children are abused daily and the court system allows it - if I had the opportunity again I would've killed mine that's the only escape you'll have wait for them to attack you and clock them - There is only one victim and that's a dead one - I for one am proud that these boys now men defended themselves - they stood in truth and were persecuted for the pleasure of being child abuse victims . I was in an adult relationship where horrendous abuse occured , i can only imagine how horrific it was for these boys given it was their own parents . People look at victims like they are to blame - they dehumanise us degrade us - they minimise our experiences and trauma - we may have it together on the outside but on the inside it's a different story some scars just don't heal .
Jose menendez was abusing his sons since they were little. That has immense power over someone. Those boys legitimately thought they had no other way out besides killing their parents....their mother allegedly knew about the sexual abuse and if that's true, than she got hers....Jose manipulated his own way into an early grave.... After years of abuse I see those murders as self defense....those men have served their time. Set them free.
Wrong. It wasn't self defense, they were young men and just like how they were able to legally purchase a firearm, they could've easily moved out. They could've even tried against him in court. But if your first instinct is to murder when someone else isn't even trying to murder you, you've got issues. They deserve the death pen.
Ella Presley they're not innocent! They admitted to killing their parents....they're not innocent! Many many people have been abused as children...they don't go & kill their parents!
Ella Presley-They were grown men! They could’ve left their “evil parents” house if they didn’t like their rules. But that’s what happens when certain people in this country never have to accept accountability for anything they do. Only white people are walking around here in their 20’s and middle ages, but still get to call themselves “kids” and blame everything on “mental illness.”
Honestly I think it’s a little messed up that gang bangers get sentenced to 25 years and only do 8 but these guys have to live out the rest of their lives behind bars. The parents were monsters why doesn’t that matter.
I believe their father molested them, I believe heir story, I believe they were afraid and I believe they truly believed they were defending themselves. Let them out. I believe they wouldn’t commit another murder.. I really do. Being molested as a child for a much shorter time and not by my parents, it still really affected me. I can NOT imagine if it happened all my life. Then for a straight mans same sex parent not letting him leave for college bcuz he wanted his son for his own pleasure.. it’s so wrong.
They didn’t handle it right. If you murder YOU end up in jail. They were legally adults and should of just moved out of the house and get an apartment and a job like the rest of the world.
The first thing a murderer says when on trial is abuse in some form, they are doing the same thing all murderer's do, blaming someone for why they done it, bottom line is they murdered their unsuspecting parents in a horrific way, they are nothing but murderer's for the money, I'm sure the parents were good to them, they were rich they never wanted for anything they just wanted the control not their parents making the choices for their well being, which is what parents do, I can't believe so many are defending these 2 & believing a word that comes out of their mouths, they planned the murders which makes them monsters, they are nothing but evil & look at the people defending them, I hope they never get out!!! And who would marry either one of these 2 behind bars after what they done, you would have to be as demented as them, their parents are dead after being brutally murdered by their own sons, they have evil in their eyes, WOW!!!!
So why don't you watch the program and hear the facts that were presented in court. But you had a nitwit judge and idiots like you on the jury that decided before hearing the evidence.
Conspiracy theory : because their father was a Hollywood executive maybe that's why the brothers are still kept in jail by their father's circle of friends aka the other predators..
Why are so many of you so quick to believe the lies of these murderous men? Don't you see that they just want to get out, and it's their only possible way by telling a pathetic lie.
There is no justification for pre-meditated murder. Without evidence of an immediate and fetal threat, there was no other choice than a Guilty verdict. There wasn't much evidence to substantiate their child molestation claims. Really is a sad story
@menendeztrial I stand corrected. I agree. I watched their trial everyday on court tv before going to work. Some things are unrelatable and unimaginable and this was one. A horrible tragedy I cannot comprehend. If only they had ran for their lives and been free..my wish for them..I'm sorry 😞
The only thing I see here is how a toxic rich family created two spoiled brats monsters. They aren't victims they're murders who clearly think they did the right thing and dont really show remorse at all. The only fact here is that they killed their parents. Everything else they might have said to make themselves a victim is just theories bc we will never know if it is true bc a murder is not exactly someone you can trust and well the parents are dead.
school was being paid for if they stayed, free living, being scared to leave, having no money and nowhere to go, scared you are going to get killed or punished for saying sum is a huge reason not to leave. They still could have been harmed if they left. Its been over 26 years so let em out with strict probation. Often people who are molested don't say a word, even to their therapists so I don't see why they made it a big deal that they didn't tell the therapist.
Please remember the defense HAS TO paint an ugly picture of the parents to get them off. They blew their parents away and spent the money like pirates.
I believe if I was in their shoes and It was happening to me and my younger siblings and I was pushed to that point where I had enough with it, I would do that. As the eldest I have to take care of my siblings even if it's from my parents.
I feel sorry for the Menendez brothers they dont deserve to be abused like that by their father. And tell u the truth my brother & I were abused too by our grandmother back in our childhood (shes really heartless & she really doesnt care or love her own children or/& grandchildren) she beat us, gives us bruises, etc...... 😢😢😢 then finally our parents saw it & we confess it to them & they were shocked & they believe us & finally my parents had enough of our abusive heartless grandmother & finally told her to get out of the house (finally kicked her out), get out of the U.S. country, fly back to Europe & never come back ever again. My grandmother should have go to jail for what she did to us.
Some people live 3 lives . There’s a public one , private one and a secret one . Can’t stand Barbra Walters . These boys need to be released. These days people get away with anything .
They are just greedy kids who couldn't wait to enjoy their share of money inheritance,their parents being relatively young. It would have taken decades before they could grab their shares.
whatever happened or didnt with regard to abuse,they werent babies,they could have ran away from or went to the authorities instead of shotgunning their parents
I feel very sorry for those two brothers. but let's be honest if your dad and mother were abusing you to thet extent if you felt there was no way out . wouldn't you kill the basterds I know I would. parents are not supposed to do that to there children if you have kids you have got to protect them and teach them until they can protect themselfs your not there to hurt them. so I think they did the only thing they could do to stop what was going on.
I don’t feel sad for them as they could have left and escaped the abuse and tourture but killing ones parents and ending in jail and destroying their life forever could be avoided. Just stay away from parents if it’s difficult but killing is not justified.
I believe them.. they are not lying n ppl showing no remorse towards them is just sickening ppl think parents could never do such then n that's how it should be but they did n tbh joan n kitty deserve it
So murdering two people is completely okay with you? That is kind of twisted. You don't know anything for a fact, nor does it justify anything. They were having a blasr spending all that money. And from day one they were lying and crying crocodile tears. And you believe it? Wow. I have a bridge to sell you.
Even if they weren't sexually abused, verbal abuse has finally become illigal. You don't get more than 10 years for that. It's manslauter in self defense. Psychological damage.
Signs that an adult is a sexual abuser:..Adult men Leave home. I know all about it; I left home, at age 15. The Parents just over spoiled these Men. Abuse Men would Leave home, but they wanted the easy way out. They wanted their Money. The Motive is Greed.
I don’t know if they were abused ......but it seems a lot of you do , if you go to police and tell them what you know I’m sure they will be released soon
"The father had a shot gun blast to the back of his head" the video states. That means that they were attacked out of the blue and indicated they weren't in imminent danger that night. How that doesnt stick out to you all and more people is quite disturbing. It's like you all didnt listen to what the people were saying in this video.
You are wrong. Their father had several wounds, the one to the back of his head was the last one inflicted. The autopsy and crime scene photos showed that their father was standing and moving towards them considering the trajectory and the position of the wounds. So the narrative that their father was ambushed from behind and shot in the head is completely wrong. From what we know, they were not in imminent danger at the moment they did the shootings. They reacted to the cues and events that preceeded the shootings due to their long time history with their parents/abusers. We would probably never think of going into that room and start firing the guns. But our brains and our minds do not react to certain circumstances in the way theirs do. When you live your entire life being threatened by your parents you learn to read cues differently. And when someone threatens you and then closes the door on you, and you know that there are rifles in the house, your fear level increases and your instinct to survive takes over.
@@HaleThePanda There is entire trial available on Court TV webpage. Dr. Golden was the medical examiner and explains that the first wound was inflicted into father's thigh as he was standing and moving. If he had been seated as the media says, there would be blood on the couch behind the thigh. There wasn't any. The testimonies of the detectives tells that the french doors behind the couch were shattered from the inside, so the shooters were not behind the father. Also the narrative was in the media that the parents were kneecapped to make it look like the mafia did it. That was proven to be false because both parents were not shot in the knees. Father had a wound on his thigh and mother on her upper calf. Also one more thing to be noted, they both sustained 16 wounds but it was proven that 8 shots were fired. One shot caused more than one wound. The trial is long, it took me a week to go through it. But if you have other questions about the case I would be glad to answer them.
@@HaleThePanda The prosecution. It's always the prosecution that cals the medical examiner in a murder trial. He testified how many wounds were inflicted, where they were and whether they were fatal or not. He also concluded that only two wounds were fatal and contact wounds, other were all distant shots. But the defense asked him about the possibility whether the wounds were inflicted in the way the bodies were found and the order of shots.
Well for one during the retrial the judge didn't let attorneys focus too much on the sexual abuse and the boys did confess to killing their parents. Personally I think the court should've seen it as a case of self defense rather than just murder because of the years of sexual abuse the brothers experienced.
If you've had a shitty childhood due to your parents, just turn 18 and get the heck out of Dodge. Move to the other side of the country and start a new life. Have zero contact with your abusers. Murder is not necessary.
They claimed their mother was also sexually abusing them in order to justify her murder too which is where the jury stopped believing them. Every news story leaves that part out.
Yeah. That seemed like overkill to me, almost as if the defense wasn't confidant that their claims of the mother being cold and distant might not sway the jury to acquit them. Did you hear the latest claims by Robert Rand, the journalist who believes that the brothers should be set free? He believes that Jose had been molested by his mother, thus perpetuating the theory of this sexual abuse saga spanning not 2 but 3 generations. Deflection has been the defense's m.o. since day one. And I find it interesting that they impugn or impeach the character and testimonies of the dead, Maria Menendez being the latest to be in the crosshairs, apparently.
Spoiled brats that failed at everything they tried. Parents probably hinted at cutting them off. Right after they killed their parents, they blew threw a shit load of money and were having a great time. I don't buy the abusive crap that only came out in the second trial.
Erik and Lyle both were molested, Erik was molested all his 18 years by his dad and his Mother knew about it. The Molestation stopped by the dad with Lyle but started with the Mother. This is so sad and heartbreaking and to be in Prison for life is not fair. They were both scared their parents were going to kill them both, Erik did not want his dad to tough him again. The only way out is killing their parents and not thinking, Erik wanted a way out and I don't blame him, he was torched all his life and Lyle was torched most of his life. I'm Praying they both get another Trial in 2021 and the Judge and Jury really listens to the brothers really close and why they killed their parents.
Think it was all accident that they have killed their parents as they used a gun in killing them knowing inside their house and know they have neighbors etc. and that they confide also to their relatives what actually happened. If they have intentions killing their parents, they could just hired killers or maybe poisoned them, etc. - for the children to do it with their parents who were also young at that time meant they could have indeed have molested them. Guess they have paid enough by years in prisons and that they could be given a chance to be together again as they are brothers. Deserved to have a nice family.
Every child deserves parents but not every adult deserves kids.
Facts :(
For some: It’s easy to have kids, but it’s not easy to raise them
@Madeline Irmen yea
"The father had a shot gun blast to the back of his head" the video states. That means that they were attacked out of the blue and indicated they weren't in imminent danger that night. How that doesnt stick out to you all and more people is quite disturbing.
@HaleThePanda
How these parents kept naked pictures of their young aged boys waist down with heads cut off tucked away in envelope in the mothers handwriting labeled 6th birthday.... now that’s disturbing!!!!
You don't know what goes on behind close doors, I believe the brothers about their parents.. I really believe their father was evil..
YoYo32071 i dont believe their parents was evil. how sad they can speak the truth becuz they are dead. can you see their eyes? they dont even look like they suffered at all.
Milca Aguilera lol
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Ok but their dad was a hollywood exec, LOOK UP the open secret OR the hollywood pedophilia ring, execs in hollywood do things that these boys claim ALL the time to little boys, they just cover it up
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28 years. They’ve been in jail since 1990. At this point they’ve been locked up longer than the age they were when they committed the crimes. Lyle was 21 and Erik was 19.
apparently 74 people do
Spoon Face he was 18
@@thabluntroller9637 328 people now.
@@thabluntroller9637 394 people now
They been in jail for almost 32 years
And they killed their mother because she knew and did nothing, can you imagine the betrayal for your whole life
I think the mom got more shots than the dad. Guess they really hated their mom.
@@persephone153 she didn't die the first time they shot her
she actually was sexually abusing Lyle as well
@@user-oq5ox1tq3g Yeah
@@user-oq5ox1tq3g erik too,
The parents are not the "victims"
That's ignorant. They were obviously victims of murder.
In my opinion, both the brothers and the parents are the victims and attackers. I think that the parents are victims for being murdered. I sincerely think they did something to cause trauma (stuff like abuse) to their kids because children don't just murder their parents like they would kill a fly. The brothers were probably victims because of trauma but then again they did kill their parents.
@@wasabichicken1215 I'm glad it's not just me who feels this way
@@HaleThePanda
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They deserve happiness not a lifetime sentence. This makes me sick. His dad should feel the pain he caused his sons
Their dad got worse than that. He was blown away with a weapon.
MrJuvefrank that’s a fast death and it’s nothing compared to everything he did to them
MrJuvefrank good
@@MrJuvefrank erik was abused for 12 years of his life and his dad got an quick death that erik feels bad for. i dont feel remorse for his dad.
and u make me sick
i could tell that they were molested. being molested as a young child i could see the signs.
JohnBelz looking for correctness in a comment section on a CZcams video??
Cheryl Lynne, and I can tell by your posts that you are desperate for attention.
newew 15
What are the signs?
look at their court case videos. no one is that good at acting.
Lois Alison Martin Kemp
I love the fact that they don't regret it. Any parents deserve that. Parents are suppose to protect there children not abuse there children!
momjeans78 their father did! He died by one hit BANG! dead, he wouldn't have known how brutal it was. Same with animals. But they're innocent and slaughted everyday. Animals don't deserve it. Humans on the other hand..well I'd do the same if i were in the same situation as them, alot of people would.
They do regret killing their parents. They know that it shouldn't have happened but at the time they felt that they had no other choice.
They literally said they regret it at the beginning ofthe video.
These pieces of shit were not abused. Just cold blooded killers and lying pieces of garbage.
Colby Carroll how you know all you saying is that they are lying where’s your proof at ya bitch
Erik responses were so quick and he didnt even think when they were asking him about the rape and the abuse which means its 100%true
ikr people have to think when they lie and he literally kind of started crying, and it was really sad
That's not always true
I wish they'd have run away after the murder
I think they should not kill just go from home or report to police this is my opinion
@@yelizjan they couldn’t u should watch the testimonies it tells u everything smh.. the dad said “ if u run away or tell anyone I will kill you” the dad was basically controlling them
@@kaylas3247 she said "after the murder"
@@kris-eb8gv smh, no she didn’t... they reported the shooting after the murder..she saying “ they shouldn’t have killed “ they should’ve reported from the police u understand??
they went to the cinema right after and wanted to meet their friend perry however they decided to come back home to call the police
WHY ARE THEY NOT MENTIONING WHAT THEIR FATHER DID. THEY ARE THE VICTIMS. THEY DO NOT DESERVE JAIL
and also what their mother did to lyle, like yes the father was a monster but the mother was too
@@regrettableusername3375 true!
La La Not sure but I believe at the 2nd trial the sexual abuse was not brought up. Those tears were for real. Their parents were monsters. They should be out of prison not in it.
becasue thats how our fuckin brain works. even if theyre furious and know that it did not feel good, theyre somehow conditioned to do those things and been told its okay and normal. u need a goooood brainrewind to vanish that
The abuse wasn’t proven in the second trial that convicted the brothers due to sufficient evidence. Also the judge didn’t want the trial to be seen as a child abuse trial. Since the alleged abusers are dead.
Update : they are reunited in the same jail :)
Yeah😊
Yay
They should be together and released. Unfair sentence.
@@milabenmimon6747 okay
@@209Chuy your existence is pointless
It was their only way to freedom.
I wouldn’t say only way. but he had been abused so much I could def see why they did it and I feel for them
@@alanablack2222 it was the only way, they couldn’t tell anyone about it otherwise their father would kill them.
It was their only way to escape abuse, they weren't able to tell that to anyone, to call the police, even Jose threatened to kill them if they run away. They had only two ways. To kill themselves, or their abusers.
@@sofijaurukalo8285 RUBBISHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Lies
I wanna see them see each other again
Amaya Williams agreed
it just happened..
Amaya Williams they did 🙌🙌🙌🙌
THUMPER me 2
thagiant Someone that sexually molest anyone....child or adult needs to die...
You have to think..... it's one thing for just "one" son to do it BUT what's so important is that both wouldn't just revolt like that. It's just how I feel. Something or someone had to have made them do such
It's called money .Dummy.
MrMoe158 lol I forgot I even posted this. I have a kid now dude... this shits almost 4 years old
MrMoe158 no it’s called sexual assault “dummy”
@Najae Dix they’re* *where they belong. No offense mate, but English isn’t even my sir language. You have horrible grammar
@@MrMoe158 Yeah I’m sure years of physical sexual and mental abuse that began at around 6 years old had _nothing_ to do with it
I’m very pleased that there’s a movement to get the brothers a fair trial, and eventually to free them after 31 years in prison. I can’t believe how horrendous things can happen to anybody. Their whole lives were spent inside the walls of abuse and confinement.
Wow why are they still in jail for this ??
stupid question
Cause they had sex with corey fakemen
because they will die in jail
Because they killed 2 people, dummy.
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i think if this trial was to happen again today, they would have gotten a couple of years only. the parents deserved what they got.
I bet if the right person brought this case back up and got it into Trumps attention some how he'd get them out of jail.
Yes they did
The way that Lyle looked at his brother is everything. They have each other and the punishment should be enough. Life in prison cured nothing, they were abused by their father.
They both are married now. And i believe they should be released from prison. They deserve to have happy lives despite their past. When abuse happens you just can't move on and let it go.
NO
louiethemouseful YES
Barbara Sheats no you commuted a crime, they can stay in there
Evidence of abuse? ... and NOT from the lips of the people that killed the only ones that would be able to refute it please.
Evidence of abuse from relatives, friends, teachers, coaches - eyewitness accounts, of which there were many but the prosecution in the second trial blocked those witnesses because they were desperate to get a conviction.
Release them. Time served
r u stupid
Julie Alley amen, they've done there time.
hell no f them... murderers
Okay you know when they have done there time when they are both taking out in body bags & that you can count on.
release them...smh...what are u... a sick freak?!
It’s not fair they shouldn’t be in jail that long. They were being abuse for a long time, the parents aren’t “the victime” the brothers are.
You're ignorant. The parents were murdered and that obviously makes them victims of a crime. Sorry your emotions and lust is getting in the way of seeing that.
Money was definitely not the motive. I think the spending spree they went on was to distract themselves from the pain and guilt of killing their parents. The parents made them fear for their lives. Free them!
Now after all these years and more knowledge I believe them 100%!
Same
@@kaylas3247 ^
You must've not taken in that much knowledge, then.
@@HaleThePanda what are you talking about? Havent you seen their court videos? Even their cousin confirmed they were sexually abused
@@llhd1475 it doesnt take a lot of knowledge to understand that someone who commits a crime should face the consequences of their actions, no matter the person's trauma and the character of the person the crime was commited against. I dont deny they were abused, I believe it. I still think they should carry out their sentences as intended though because that was the consequence of the crime commited. We can agree to disagree if that's fine with you though because I'm personally not interested in continuing this conversation. I hope you have a good day!
that’s so sad that they’ll never see eachother again and that they were sentenced for LIFE. unfair
LMFOAO lyle was moved to erik prison 2 years ago so now they get to see eachother everyday and eat together and just be brothers till they die
I drive by that house on my way home from work everyday.
jmuduke99 cool
It's cool to drive by a house where two people were brutally murdered??? You are creepy.
MrVidaeverdade not sure where I said it was cool
Same
Is there residents living in that house today, or is the house vacant?
everyone on here pisses me off, anyone who is sexually abused is broken on the inside, any women who is physically abused is broken, anyone who is physically, emotionally or sexually abused will be broken, so to expect them to just grab their shit and leave it's ridiculous. one learns to love and hate their abuser at the same time. unless your psychologically treated your grasp of what is right and wrong is not right, my father used to beat my mom and brother frequently, and I hated him for it, but I still wanted him to love me, I instead started developing this ssense of hate towards my brother and mother for always fucking up and causing my dad's anger. my reality was fucked. I was lucky to move out at 16 to another country and see another reality and educate myself to understand the one and only monster was my father and we were all victims of his perpetrations.
KJS1444 what there parents did to them was a horrible crime. They were abused for years. I’m not saying what Erik and Lyle did was right, but unless you have gone through what they did you shouldn’t so quick to judge their actions.
Priscila Llanos So what should their punishment be for murder? Being abused in any way is horrible, yes I understand that. I'm just saying it still doesn't give anyone the right to murder and if you choose to do so, then pay the price. I'm not judging anyone, I'm stating the law. If they are even teling the truth mind you. I don't know if they are and either do you.
Exactly - and people try to judge others who had to deal,from the inside, with sick relationships. Of course it affects people's ability to think or reason.
Queen_0f Slayyy Again. What should punishment be then? I'm not going to excuse murder sorry. I didn't a perfect childhood without going into detail. You have no idea if I was sexually abused or not. Just because I have my own opinions doesn't mean I don't understand abuse. It still does not give 2 men the right to shoot and kill their parents. If they choose to do that , then pay the consequences. Pretty simple. You sure don't get a free pass for murder because you were abused. Thus is just my opinion, you a free to have yours as well.
jugy Wow. How sad. Hope ur doing well. Praying for you
I believe them as well they should not be in jail for that long
You are amrican???
I just want to hug the older brother, both of them ❤.
Samo Aquaia ugh, same
Can you make that graphic overlay any bigger? Like...maybe cover half of the screen?
dadduorp 😂😂😂😂
Dang, they were fine, good-looking young men...they've aged well, since being locked up, no work and no sun damaged skin!
John Peoples gay
fine? wtf. these cubam dudes are ugly af. smh. what has america Dumbed down to
That's the result of bad parenting it haunts you forever
Even in real life
@@computerfastrepair girl get ur negativity somewhere else, they’re beautiful
They deserve to be free and to finally enjoy their life.
Today is Lyle's 49th birthday.
Chastity Creamer who cares
U CARED ENOUGH TO COMMENT .!!!!!!!!!!
Now 50
That makes me so sad omg
Having lived through an abusive relationship where the abuser would look for sick twisted ways to break me down emotionally physically sexually etc I totally understand where they are coming from.
I think it's sick that a jury would sentence these kids to prison their testimony is so vivid and effortless it comes from memory - people have to understand that you can live an abuser and still be terrified of them -
The way people look at us in disgust or disbelief when we discuss the level of torment - it's never about the bad times it's about the good moments the abuser allows you to have.
If an abuser was bad all the time it'd be easy to recognise and leave -
So sorry for these men but that's the justice system for you.
Women/ children are abused daily and the court system allows it - if I had the opportunity again I would've killed mine that's the only escape you'll have wait for them to attack you and clock them -
There is only one victim and that's a dead one - I for one am proud that these boys now men defended themselves - they stood in truth and were persecuted for the pleasure of being child abuse victims .
I was in an adult relationship where horrendous abuse occured , i can only imagine how horrific it was for these boys given it was their own parents .
People look at victims like they are to blame - they dehumanise us degrade us - they minimise our experiences and trauma - we may have it together on the outside but on the inside it's a different story some scars just don't heal .
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“Many people believed, some people did” SHUT UP WE ALL BELIEVE THE BROTHERS SHOULDN’T BE IN JAIL!
"and if the penal system works they'll never see each other again" he said it with such an evil voice. i can't even explain how bad he made me feel.
They were reunited in 2018. The reunion was a very heartfelt, emotional, tearful one 😭❤ And since then they are able to see each other everyday 🥰
These boys suffered so much , they should let them at least have each other
Jose menendez was abusing his sons since they were little. That has immense power over someone. Those boys legitimately thought they had no other way out besides killing their parents....their mother allegedly knew about the sexual abuse and if that's true, than she got hers....Jose manipulated his own way into an early grave.... After years of abuse I see those murders as self defense....those men have served their time. Set them free.
Wrong. It wasn't self defense, they were young men and just like how they were able to legally purchase a firearm, they could've easily moved out. They could've even tried against him in court. But if your first instinct is to murder when someone else isn't even trying to murder you, you've got issues. They deserve the death pen.
Shane Milton
Wrong, you obviously don't know the case
I always believed these brothers were innocent; some parents are "just evil"!!
Ella Presley they're not innocent! They admitted to killing their parents....they're not innocent! Many many people have been abused as children...they don't go & kill their parents!
They admitted to the killings!!
Most wish they could
I believe they are innocent too.
Ella Presley-They were grown men! They could’ve left their “evil parents” house if they didn’t like their rules. But that’s what happens when certain people in this country never have to accept accountability for anything they do. Only white people are walking around here in their 20’s and middle ages, but still get to call themselves “kids” and blame everything on “mental illness.”
Honestly I think it’s a little messed up that gang bangers get sentenced to 25 years and only do 8 but these guys have to live out the rest of their lives behind bars. The parents were monsters why doesn’t that matter.
How are they 48 and 49 a piece but still look in their 30s?
I wonder if being in prison has protected them from a lot of sun damage
they should be allowed to be cell mates if they want. thats like a human right.
Safety/security problems can come to be an issue. But, it could regardless as well...
Not many but yeah you still have those in there. In legal theory that is...
cletus the slob what ever!
Living is a human right which these two murderers took away from their parents. Being a cell mate isn’t. Your ignorance baffles me
Once your in prison or jail those rights no longer exist, you have no rights
I believe their father molested them, I believe heir story, I believe they were afraid and I believe they truly believed they were defending themselves. Let them out. I believe they wouldn’t commit another murder.. I really do. Being molested as a child for a much shorter time and not by my parents, it still really affected me. I can NOT imagine if it happened all my life. Then for a straight mans same sex parent not letting him leave for college bcuz he wanted his son for his own pleasure.. it’s so wrong.
They didn’t handle it right. If you murder YOU end up in jail. They were legally adults and should of just moved out of the house and get an apartment and a job like the rest of the world.
The first thing a murderer says when on trial is abuse in some form, they are doing the same thing all murderer's do, blaming someone for why they done it, bottom line is they murdered their unsuspecting parents in a horrific way, they are nothing but murderer's for the money, I'm sure the parents were good to them, they were rich they never wanted for anything they just wanted the control not their parents making the choices for their well being, which is what parents do, I can't believe so many are defending these 2 & believing a word that comes out of their mouths, they planned the murders which makes them monsters, they are nothing but evil & look at the people defending them, I hope they never get out!!! And who would marry either one of these 2 behind bars after what they done, you would have to be as demented as them, their parents are dead after being brutally murdered by their own sons, they have evil in their eyes, WOW!!!!
So why don't you watch the program and hear the facts that were presented in court. But you had a nitwit judge and idiots like you on the jury that decided before hearing the evidence.
I did & they are nothing but murderers maybe you need to watch it again!!!!
cindy brockman sicko parents!!
Sicko, Psycho Boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SICKO PARENTS !!!!
Conspiracy theory : because their father was a Hollywood executive maybe that's why the brothers are still kept in jail by their father's circle of friends aka the other predators..
Of course that's why it is nobody cares about these 2
Why are so many of you so quick to believe the lies of these murderous men? Don't you see that they just want to get out, and it's their only possible way by telling a pathetic lie.
There is no justification for pre-meditated murder. Without evidence of an immediate and fetal threat, there was no other choice than a Guilty verdict. There wasn't much evidence to substantiate their child molestation claims. Really is a sad story
Everyone here needs help. There is absolutely no justification for killing anyone. Especially your parents.
@menendeztrial I stand corrected. I agree. I watched their trial everyday on court tv before going to work. Some things are unrelatable and unimaginable and this was one. A horrible tragedy I cannot comprehend. If only they had ran for their lives and been free..my wish for them..I'm sorry 😞
TikTok brought me here
Pretty crazy that they'll die in prison.
The only thing I see here is how a toxic rich family created two spoiled brats monsters. They aren't victims they're murders who clearly think they did the right thing and dont really show remorse at all.
The only fact here is that they killed their parents. Everything else they might have said to make themselves a victim is just theories bc we will never know if it is true bc a murder is not exactly someone you can trust and well the parents are dead.
I believe in Menendez Brothers 👈👊👊👊
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The media talks about double murder with way too much excitement.
So unfair is the system. It‘s hard to watch without tears 😭
Thankfully they were moved to the same facility within the last couple years ❤️ I hope they get released
0:05 that moustache! Holy smokes! That's huge!
Omw😂
LMAO
He still calls himself "the kid" 🥺💔
Those poor men you just want to hug them they don't deserve to be in jail.
Inbound storm they endured severe physical and emotional abuse.
AND THE PARENTS WERE SICK, THEY ABUSED THEM AND RAPED THEMM. DF
Were you there? Just because they said they were abused it is the truth? A dead man tells no tails. STOP sticking up for the real monsters.
Who cares the fact that they will never see each other again. Liars and murderers.
If I was abused by my parents, the soonest i turn 18 I will move out.
That’s the thing Erik was looking forward to leaving because he was going to college but his father wouldn’t let him leave
school was being paid for if they stayed, free living, being scared to leave, having no money and nowhere to go, scared you are going to get killed or punished for saying sum is a huge reason not to leave. They still could have been harmed if they left. Its been over 26 years so let em out with strict probation. Often people who are molested don't say a word, even to their therapists so I don't see why they made it a big deal that they didn't tell the therapist.
God only knows what really happened behind those closed doors.
Please remember the defense HAS TO paint an ugly picture of the parents to get them off. They blew their parents away and spent the money like pirates.
I believe if I was in their shoes and It was happening to me and my younger siblings and I was pushed to that point where I had enough with it, I would do that. As the eldest I have to take care of my siblings even if it's from my parents.
I feel sorry for the Menendez brothers they dont deserve to be abused like that by their father.
And tell u the truth my brother & I were abused too by our grandmother back in our childhood (shes really heartless & she really doesnt care or love her own children or/& grandchildren) she beat us, gives us bruises, etc...... 😢😢😢 then finally our parents saw it & we confess it to them & they were shocked & they believe us & finally my parents had enough of our abusive heartless grandmother & finally told her to get out of the house (finally kicked her out), get out of the U.S. country, fly back to Europe & never come back ever again.
My grandmother should have go to jail for what she did to us.
These two deserve a second chance in life with lots of therapy and thorough psychiatric evaluation
This has been the only comment in this whole comment section that I can say I'd kinda agree with.
I like the name Lyle I'll keep that in mind for my child lol
Lol
lmao 😂
Some people live 3 lives . There’s a public one , private one and a secret one . Can’t stand Barbra Walters . These boys need to be released. These days people get away with anything .
Well to be fair, their parents can't defend themselves from all the accusations now they are dead
and if they were alive, they’d just deny it like any actual abuser would. it wouldn’t make a difference.
because their parents aren't alive to tell their side of the truth ..I don't know what to believe..but lyle testimony felt so real and heart breaking.
They are just greedy kids who couldn't wait to enjoy their share of money inheritance,their parents being relatively young.
It would have taken decades before they could grab their shares.
@@tuabumopolo3238 idiot
whatever happened or didnt with regard to abuse,they werent babies,they could have ran away from or went to the authorities instead of shotgunning their parents
They should've never have been found... Poor guys, they didn't deserve jail.
I feel very sorry for those two brothers. but let's be honest if your dad and mother were abusing you to thet extent if you felt there was no way out . wouldn't you kill the basterds I know I would. parents are not supposed to do that to there children if you have kids you have got to protect them and teach them until they can protect themselfs your not there to hurt them. so I think they did the only thing they could do to stop what was going on.
ZIPVON The "kids" were adults when they did that. The oldest was 21.
Hallie Harker that’s still pretty young and they’ve been tortured their whole lives so that really affects a person
C'mon, uploader, if it's just a click-bait teaser then at least say so in the title.
Why wouldn’t they report it instead of murder them ?
I don’t feel sad for them as they could have left and escaped the abuse and tourture but killing ones parents and ending in jail and destroying their life forever could be avoided.
Just stay away from parents if it’s difficult but killing is not justified.
Yeah finally someone gets it, absolutely right lots of people go through crap like this but it's no excuse to kill, I give you a thumps up
lol, imagine actually siding with people who literally raped their own children and thinking that it's wrong to kill child molesters
The father was such a disgusting devil!
I believe them.. they are not lying n ppl showing no remorse towards them is just sickening ppl think parents could never do such then n that's how it should be but they did n tbh joan n kitty deserve it
So murdering two people is completely okay with you? That is kind of twisted. You don't know anything for a fact, nor does it justify anything. They were having a blasr spending all that money. And from day one they were lying and crying crocodile tears. And you believe it? Wow. I have a bridge to sell you.
Even if they weren't sexually abused, verbal abuse has finally become illigal. You don't get more than 10 years for that. It's manslauter in self defense. Psychological damage.
Free them. It was self defense. Why punish them for so long for murdering their abusers?!
happy birthday lyle
so sad
I love Mr. Moran, we do felt the same emotions for the brothers pain
Signs that an adult is a sexual abuser:..Adult men Leave home. I know all about it; I left home, at age 15. The Parents just over spoiled these Men. Abuse Men would Leave home, but they wanted the easy way out. They wanted their Money. The Motive is Greed.
I don’t know if they were abused ......but it seems a lot of you do , if you go to police and tell them what you know I’m sure they will be released soon
"The father had a shot gun blast to the back of his head" the video states. That means that they were attacked out of the blue and indicated they weren't in imminent danger that night. How that doesnt stick out to you all and more people is quite disturbing. It's like you all didnt listen to what the people were saying in this video.
You are wrong. Their father had several wounds, the one to the back of his head was the last one inflicted. The autopsy and crime scene photos showed that their father was standing and moving towards them considering the trajectory and the position of the wounds. So the narrative that their father was ambushed from behind and shot in the head is completely wrong.
From what we know, they were not in imminent danger at the moment they did the shootings. They reacted to the cues and events that preceeded the shootings due to their long time history with their parents/abusers. We would probably never think of going into that room and start firing the guns. But our brains and our minds do not react to certain circumstances in the way theirs do. When you live your entire life being threatened by your parents you learn to read cues differently. And when someone threatens you and then closes the door on you, and you know that there are rifles in the house, your fear level increases and your instinct to survive takes over.
@@blackangel1361 I'd like to see proof of what you're saying here. Do you have any links?
@@HaleThePanda There is entire trial available on Court TV webpage. Dr. Golden was the medical examiner and explains that the first wound was inflicted into father's thigh as he was standing and moving. If he had been seated as the media says, there would be blood on the couch behind the thigh. There wasn't any. The testimonies of the detectives tells that the french doors behind the couch were shattered from the inside, so the shooters were not behind the father. Also the narrative was in the media that the parents were kneecapped to make it look like the mafia did it. That was proven to be false because both parents were not shot in the knees. Father had a wound on his thigh and mother on her upper calf. Also one more thing to be noted, they both sustained 16 wounds but it was proven that 8 shots were fired. One shot caused more than one wound.
The trial is long, it took me a week to go through it. But if you have other questions about the case I would be glad to answer them.
@@blackangel1361 I have another question, which side called the doctor up to the stand to share that? The prosecution or the defense?
@@HaleThePanda The prosecution. It's always the prosecution that cals the medical examiner in a murder trial. He testified how many wounds were inflicted, where they were and whether they were fatal or not. He also concluded that only two wounds were fatal and contact wounds, other were all distant shots. But the defense asked him about the possibility whether the wounds were inflicted in the way the bodies were found and the order of shots.
I'm dying to find out why were they not helped to be realesed. This is out of order. What they parents did was illegal and crime.
Well for one during the retrial the judge didn't let attorneys focus too much on the sexual abuse and the boys did confess to killing their parents. Personally I think the court should've seen it as a case of self defense rather than just murder because of the years of sexual abuse the brothers experienced.
If you've had a shitty childhood due to your parents, just turn 18 and get the heck out of Dodge. Move to the other side of the country and start a new life. Have zero contact with your abusers. Murder is not necessary.
Daphne Dedrick daddy would never let them go. he owned them.
Nearly 30 years ago and I’m still free because I never killed anyone.
Honestly I don’t see why they can’t see each other
They claimed their mother was also sexually abusing them in order to justify her murder too which is where the jury stopped believing them. Every news story leaves that part out.
Yeah. That seemed like overkill to me, almost as if the defense wasn't confidant that their claims of the mother being cold and distant might not sway the jury to acquit them.
Did you hear the latest claims by Robert Rand, the journalist who believes that the brothers should be set free? He believes that Jose had been molested by his mother, thus perpetuating the theory of this sexual abuse saga spanning not 2 but 3 generations.
Deflection has been the defense's m.o. since day one. And I find it interesting that they impugn or impeach the character and testimonies of the dead, Maria Menendez being the latest to be in the crosshairs, apparently.
all I can say is good riddance, Menendez brothers. no child deserves any abuse from their parents.
These poor boys will Never get out or see each other again but OJ who slaughtered 2 people, is free???!!! Our justice system is messed up!
Their in the same prison they get to eat and stay together now
@@elenaflores7687 yup
Spoiled brats that failed at everything they tried. Parents probably hinted at cutting them off. Right after they killed their parents, they blew threw a shit load of money and were having a great time. I don't buy the abusive crap that only came out in the second trial.
They were big enough to escape instead of killing. They should have let the world know what their father did to them. He would have been humiliated.
Erik and Lyle both were molested, Erik was molested all his 18 years by his dad and his Mother knew about it. The Molestation stopped by the dad with Lyle but started with the Mother. This is so sad and heartbreaking and to be in Prison for life is not fair. They were both scared their parents were going to kill them both, Erik did not want his dad to tough him again. The only way out is killing their parents and not thinking, Erik wanted a way out and I don't blame him, he was torched all his life and Lyle was torched most of his life. I'm Praying they both get another Trial in 2021 and the Judge and Jury really listens to the brothers really close and why they killed their parents.
Think it was all accident that they have killed their parents as they used a gun in killing them knowing inside their house and know they have neighbors etc. and that they confide also to their relatives what actually happened. If they have intentions killing their parents, they could just hired killers or maybe poisoned them, etc. - for the children to do it with their parents who were also young at that time meant they could have indeed have molested them. Guess they have paid enough by years in prisons and that they could be given a chance to be together again as they are brothers. Deserved to have a nice family.
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After they killed their parents, the two brothers went on a spending spree. End of case.
I not sure if they were abused if so they were old enough to leave or to protect themselves. They did not to kill.
Give them 10 years and let them go. But back in those days parental sexual abuse wasn't so recognised.
Man, the 80's and 90's were a great time for injustice! This whole notion of "tough on crime" really did some damage to the justice system.