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Kind of an odd question, asking if they are "really" the champions - you have it the wrong way round, where the best team in the US over a season can end up not winning, whereas being top of the league is generally a much better indicator of who the best team that season was
Exactly right - The league system is the most meritocratic system possible. The American ways are often a hybrid of part league/part cup, "neither fish-nor fowl" systems and the furthest thing from proper meritocracy.
Well said
Agreed. It’s meritocratic & cut throat. The points system makes it so as the cream rises to the top. It gives opportunities for small teams to do well as long as they do enough to avoid relegation and, in some cases, go top of the league. Money plays a big role, but is not the whole picture. The system forces teams, especially those on restricted budgets, to employ strategic “Moneyball” methods & improve fitness too.
the american way incentivizes just worrying about getting into the playoffs. No real incentive to be 1st seed.
I think it's because there's just one thing to win in each US sport, so the whole thing is a league plus a little knockout "cup" competition at the end.
There are 162 regular season baseball games, not 38, which is a really big sample to determine who are the best teams that deserve to contend in the post season.
Do agree with the general point though about the most accurate way to determine who is actually the best, it wouldn't make sense in the US structure though.
World Cup is NATIONAL teams.
This video is about CLUB football.
Well, aMuricans are having a "World Championship" named Superbowl that is participated by domestic teams AKA clubs, not involving national teams, crowning a "World Champion". Priceless
@agn855 in their defense, nobody else really plays baseball or American Football, calling the NBA world championship though, that's arrogant but fair
Superbowl: 128 million viewers. Soccer world cup: 3750 million viewers.
It’s not a competition calm down, we all love sports at the end of the day !
123 million in the USA alone. 800 million worldwide (in 2023).
Sure, the World Cup finale is bigger, but if you make such comparisons use at least the correct numbers. Or break down the World Cup numbers into viewers per country as well and only use one single country.
@@HH-hd7nd 800 million? hahahaha c'mon man where did you get this number from?
@@HH-hd7nd 450 million people around the world watch a SINGLE match, the el clasico between real and barca, you really think there isnt around a billion watching the world cup lmfaooo?
@@b5Bart That is entirely irrelevant since the discussion was about a comparison between the viewer numbers of the Champions League finale and the Superbowl, not the World Cup Finale.
There is usually always a few "giant killings" a season where a lower league team knocks out a premier league team in the cup
Especially, as these days, a lot of the 'top' teams can field weakened sides in th F.A.(and League) Cup.
Every time West Ham plays a lower league team in any cup 😂 I'm a West Ham fan and whenever we draw a club like Bristol City or Wimbledon, I just accept we're gonna lose
There's been a few div2 teams that have won the fa Cup.
Might be a shock on the cards if United can beat Coventry! 🤣
This year, Third-League Saarbrücken kicked out three Bundesliga teams in the German DFB cup before succumbing to, of all things, a second league regional rival. And the very first of those three Bundesliga teams they kicked out was none other than Bayern Munich.
Are you the *real* Champion!?
Such an American thought process.
Of course, they are. How could they not be?
Thinking of how profitable the US sports teams are... that's what the rest of the world loathe, detest and despise about US sports. Not the sports themselves, but the fact they're all about profit for the owners. Improving value to the shareholders.
Sport should be for and about the fans. Always.
Sport should not be a product, a commodity.
Yes but with how Fifa is greedy we are not well placed to speak about that 😂
@@Lostouille as much as I want to say otherwise, you're right.
Unfortunately.
🤣 The bit that made me laugh is when King Boomer said does the players from that league gather other players t from the league to represent the country for the champions league.
Just to clarify, club teams are comprised of players of different nationalities from around the World, so you can get English players in English, Spanish, German teams and vice versa. Players only join their national teams (representing their country) in the international games e.g. UEFA European Championship, and FIFA World Cup.
You want to confuse him some more? European Cup is actually the Champions League (Club competition). The European Championship, or Euros, is for National Teams in Europe, plus Israel, who aren't welcome in their own continent!
@@michaelrimmer16 Yes, typo corrected. Thanks for pointing out. 👍
You do realise how small the Superbowl is compared to the Champions league Globally.
The Champions League audience worldwide is viewed in the billions.
The superbowl is so small that even Lower tier European Football gets more views Globally.
I love football with all my heart and the champions league is much bigger than the superbowl but pretty much everything you said is wrong
Champions league isn't viewed in the billions, it's 450 million average, still viewed way more than the Superbowl
Also, lower tier football doesn't get more views than the Superbowl at all, Superbowl is still the 8th most watched sporting event most years globally, there's more international views than domestic for it.
@@stevenisadragon I think you need to do some more research. The global views of the champions league hit over billion views. The play offs in the championsjip have surpassed the super bowl
@@charliecosta3971 That's not exactly true - the Champion's League only has billions of viewers if you count all matches together, not individually.
However - you can't do that if you want to have a valid comparison: You can't count the total number of viewers of all Champion League matches together and then compare that to the Superbowl which is just a single game after all.
Either you have to compare the total numbers of viewers of all NFL games (includin playoffs) to all Champion's League matches or you have to compare the number of viewers of the Superbowl vs the Champion's League finale. And even then the comparison is off because the Champion's league has way more matches than the
And no, you cannot count he knockout rounds vs Superbowl either - that's not comparable. In that case you'd have to compare all playoff games in the NFL to the knockout round in the Champions League.
If you compare the two finales the Superbowl is in the lead btw - in 2023 451 million people watched the Champion's League finale worldwide compared to 803 million people watching the Superbowl worldwide.
@@HH-hd7nd it's not true.
The champions league final received over a billion views globally.
Not sure what part of that you don't quite understand.
@@charliecosta3971 I don't know where you get that number from.
No source supports your number while lots of sources say that last year's Champion's League finale had 450 million viewers worldwide.
Not sure why you are incapable of doing even the most simple research and simply make up random numbers instead.
There have been situations where in a "cup game" (The FA Cup) you will get teams matched up where the highest earning player on one team will earn more than the WHOLE other team of players combined.
Crazy to think about but it's good seeing the underdog teams win
The Cup: This year in Germany 3 of the four Teams in the semi finals were from the second division. As we say over here: The cup has it´s own rules
Actually Saarbrücken is from the 3rd Division, not the 2nd. And they did a triple giant killing (Bayern, Eintracht and Gladbach). Crazy run!
@@IshavedChewbacca True. Sorry, my bad. It were great if they had reached the final, but great run anyway.
World cup: Is competition between countries (every 4 years)
Champions League: is for Club teams (every year) (BTW The favourite was kicked out last night), The final is in London, Jun 1st
I was given a 50p free bet and put it on PSG - Ha you're not all laughing now.
@@paulmidsussex3409 if their owner hadn't payed off a dodgy ref, they wouldn't even be in the competition anymore, so there's also that.
In 2016 ; My home team, Leicester, were not given a cat in hells chance of winning the League. The odds of them winning was a Massive *"5.000/1"* ... 🏆 *"But They WON"* 🏆
They were everyone's second team that year because it just seemed like such a fairytale that they could do it, and so many pundits said they would choke. A real Rocky story.
The fact that they won it with such a distance as well is just mindblowing. I don't think anything like that will be replicated within a 38-game tournament in the next 10 years, in any country.
@@Ozzpot I know; It was astonishing. Even Gary Lineker was repeatedly writing them off.
@@ujmm The whole team played out of their skins but for a short time there Jamie Vardy was the best striker on the planet. A goalkeepers nightmare.
Tbf that year we were all Leicester wasn't we ? Bolton fan
There is a documentary series called Welcome to Wrexham about Rob McElhenney & Ryan Reynolds buying a non-league team and trying to get them to climb up the leagues, you could check it out.
* back up the leagues. Wrexham happily operated in The Football League for 87 years. The problem was a bunch of greedy bastards spotted how much money the ground the stadium occupied was worth, and their thirst for money meant the club was bled dry, being relegated in 2008. The fans bought the club, paid off the debts, and kept it solvent if unsuccessful for a good few years before R&R got involved and made them the most hated club in all the land.
Yeah, it's especially good for Americans as it handholds them through English football
@@siwynjones I think it's stupid to hate Wrexham. Sure they got lucky with R&R, but a lot of their success was due to good marketing. The dudes saw a potential of a good Phoenix story and took it
@@PeoplecallmeLucifer Yeah, I agree. Wrexham=clicks though, so every media outlet is on the bandwagon. It’s like the coverage England gets during major international tournaments, so I understand where fans are coming from. I tend to not tell people I’m a Wrexham season ticket holder nowadays, as it’s a bit embarrassing.
@@siwynjones I mean it's just silly. That show is the sole reason I ever got interested in non league football. I'm not some massive football fan so until I heard Ryan Reynolds is buying some 5th division football club I never even thought about it
There are a lot more than 4 divisions. in England there are about 20 tiers and about 6000 football clubs. Only the top 4 are fully professional though. If you've heard of "Welcome to Wrexham" the club that Rob and Ryan bought was in the 5th tier, and has since been promoted twice to the 3rd tier.
A team relegated from the top leagues will often sell their best players to top league clubs to help with the financial gap between leagues. Also in England, a team relegated from the Premier League will continue to receive a percentage of the Premier League TV money for three seasons (the amount decreases every season) after relegation, so as to soften the financial blow that it brings.
Relegation is brutal. My home team Portsmouth currently in league 1 (the third division) of English football was in the premier league (the first division) in 2010 when they got relegated. Within four years they fell to league 2 (the fourth division). Only just this week they guaranteed promotion to the championship (the second division). We’re going up but it’s taken 11 years since we first dropped to league 2 (the fourth division) and 15 years since we were in the premier league (the first division).
I can just imagine this American, who can barely comprehend the concept of a league without playoffs, drafts, overtime, franchises, time-outs or minor league teams, and with relegation, games that end in draws, separate cup and international club competitions etc. etc. getting his head around how Division 1 is now the Premier League but the Third Division, which was once two separate divisions, is now League 1 whilst the Championship was once Division 2 whilst the current League 2 used to be the Fourth Division. And how the National League is actually Non-League. Yeah, good luck with that.
Did you go to the Barnsley. game, unbelievable atmosphere? PUP PPU!
Interesting contrast between European and US society and sports.
Generally speaking, European society is usually seen to have more built in safety nets, but in sports it tend to be more survival of the fittest.
It's more the other way round in the US, with salary caps and the worst teams getting the first dibs in the draft, but no universal healthcare.
It's possibly because it's a closed shop, with no promotion and relegation, so they have to intervene to give fans of the less wealthy teams SOME hope of some success, because they can't ever enjoy the feeling of getting promoted.
@@jimb9063 This is a good example of Bevan's Law, which states that... In the comments section of all US reaction content, someone will eventually find a way to mention universal healthcare, regardless of how relevant it is to the actual content.
@@citizenpb Heh, what a useless "law". If it doesn't matter how relevant the reference is when it's made, what's the point, it tells you nothing.
Have you heard of Mcvities law?
In every US reaction video comment section someone will eventually find a way to mention the word biscuits, regardless of of how relevant it is to the actual content.
Glad you liked the idea of relegation....the relegation battle is often more entertaining (and stressful) than the title race!
That's false. Teams that suck are in no way better than teams that are good
@koki84ji7 what are you babbling on about? Where in my comment did I say they were?
The loss in money doesn't so much come from loss of support but from tv revenue. The top leagues get paid a ridiculous amount of money for TV rights that gets split between the clubs. Lower leagues will get some TV money but nowhere near as much.
This weekend, Coventry City from the Second Tier called " The Championship" are in The F A Cup Semi-Final and teams have won the Cup from being in lower divisions.
RELEGATION? Luton Town went from The TOP League to the 2nd then 3rd then 4th then OUT of the main League into the 5th Tier(The National League) and this season have become the first ever Club to come all the way back again and are in The English Premier League:)
Playoffs do exist in the English leagues, at least.
In England there is the Premier League, Championship, League 1 & League 2. So for example, in the Championship, the top 2 teams at the end of the season gain promotion to the Premier League. Then the teams that finish in 3rd to 6th place, face off to decide who is the 3rd and final team to be promoted to the Premier League. So again for example, the 3rd place team will play a two game semi-final against 5th place team. As will the 4th and 6th place teams. Then the winners play a final game to decide who gets promoted to the Premier League with the teams that finished in 1st and 2nd place.
Everyone in America is focused on the next world cup that will be hosted in the states, but the copa America (basically the world cup for the americas) is happening in the states in a couple months. The entire schedule is already released, should look into that. A nice reason to be patriotic this summer.
12:00 - Regarding finances and revenue: here in Portugal, there is a lot of money with TV transmission rights (there are tv cable channels that will bid to transmit certain games exclusively, though a few games are transmitted through open Channel - free for anyone). And, for obvious reasons, the games for the main League ("Primeira Liga" = First League) are the most watched. So a club that gets relegated to the Second League (Segunda Liga) will lose the money from TV transmissions... yes, that's a big problem.
Btw in the English football league there’s four divisions of professional leagues. But in total there’s around 10 divisions and the lower ones are split into small local regions. So there’s actually around 52 leagues split across 10 divisions.
There’s at least one “cupset” every year in the FA Cup where a team from the third, fourth or fifth division will knockout a team of the first or second. The story this year was of Maidstone United, A team that played in such a low division most people hadn’t heard of it and they knocked out Ipswich Town a team fighting for the second division title.
Relegation means, that every match is important, finishing last is a no-go! It makes the team work harder and preferably smarter...
This year there were 2 Second Tier teams and one 1 third tier team in the semifinals of the German cup
The Champions League consists of club teams. Each national league is ranked with top national leagues like England, Spain, Italy, Germany getting more spots and automatic placing into the group stages and lower ranked leagues have fewer spots and may have to win against other teams in preliminary rounds to earn a place in the group stage.
So for example the top 4 teams in the English league will qualify for the group stage but the Welsh league will only have one team entered and they would have to win through 3 knock out rounds to get to the group stage.
Regarding the F.A Cup (the knockout Cup competition that ALL leagues compete in) currently Coventry City F.C are facing Manchester United in the semi-final. Manchester United are a Premier league team (the Top league) facing Coventry city, a team currently sitting in the EFL Championship league, the second level of the English football league system.
Explaining the FA Cup which is Englands main cup cometition.
The competition starts is august with 2 preliminary rounds, teams playing in these are from some of the lowest leagues in the football pyramid, the winners progress into the qualifying rounds. The further up the football pyramid your league is the later you enter the competition.
A random draw is made before each round to determin who plays who.
After the Preliminary rounds there are 4 qualifying rounds, with teams from the 5th tier (the national league) entering in the final qualifying round, with the winners qualifying for the 1st Round of the competition.
The 1st round sees the teams from 3rd and 4th divisions (League One and League Two) of the footall league enter the competition along with the winners from the final qualifying round.
The 2nd round are matches played between the winners of the 1st round matches.
The 3rd round sees the big teams enter the competiton with teams from the top 2 divisions starting (Premier League and Championship) alongside the winners from round 2. If any of the teams that started in the qualifying rounds are still in the competition at this point, the dream for them would be a match against one of the big teams.
From this the competition continues until there are 2 teams left who then play each other in the Final in May.
For English football leagues, apart from the premier league (top division), the #1 team are champions, get the trophy and promotion to the league above. And the team ranked #2 also gets promotion automatically, only in the 4th division the team ranked #3 gets promoted automatically too. Then the four teams beneath the automatic promotion places have a four-team play-off tournament to decide which of them gets the last promotion place. So we do have play-offs, they happen every season.
7:01 happened this year in the German- Cup (DFB Pokal) Semifinal a 1. League Team against a Team from the 2. League. The other Semifinal was a 3. League vs. a 2. League Team...
‘He’s kicked the ball now - and apparently that warrants a round of applause’
Did you see the ludicrous display last night?
@@Charlieb82
What was Wenger thinking, sending Walcott on that early?
@@paulmidsussex3409 The trouble with Walcott is he wants to walk it into the net!
When he was explaining the Champions League I actually got goosebumps! The CL music too... goosebumps. It's the perfect music for it. All those magical nights at Old Trafford, beating Roma 7-1, Panathinaikos 5-0 etc etc.
It's brilliant when you see a giant killing, in 1992 Wrexham knocked out Arsenal and they were about 72 places apart in the league system at the time, one of the best teams in England knocked by a lowly Welsh team in the 4th division, highlights are on CZcams.
Let's not forget Real losing 4-0 to Alcorcon 4th division 😂 and they had Benzema in the attack
Heh, Mickey Thomas, quite the character. He played for us for a while too.
Next season will feel quite retro too, with league games against the blues, and you lot, for the first time in ages.
I'm hoping we'll be bought by someone like King Boomer in the summer....
Hi King Boomer! Usually in the football league pyramid in England at least 3 teams are relegated from their respective divisions at the end of the domestic league season in May. Also what's important to know is that play-offs only happen in tiers 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 of the pyramid in England where only ONE team is promoted along with the teams that finish 1st and 2nd in their divisions. There is no promotion from the Premier League (tier 1) because the clubs that finish in the top 4 positions at the end of the Premier League season in May then qualify for the UEFA Champions League (the top club team tournament in Europe) for the following season. Keep up the excellent work dude and regards to Queen Boomer
My home town Club, Burnley, were Champions of England in 1960 ... by 1987 they needed to win the last game of the season to even stay in the 4th level of English Football, which meant they ranked 92nd of 92 League Clubs. Luckily they won, and gradually improved again over the years until in 2009, we regained our spot in the Premier League. It lasted one season, but we've played most of the last decade in the EPL. Our town has a population of around 90,000 ... it's a post-industrial old Weaving and Mining town, but we pull in attendances of over 21,000 for each home game !!
Mates uncle became a passionate Burnley fan as kid, in an extended Birmingham family of villains and blue noses (long story).
He came to watch a cup replay against Shrewsbury (early 90's), staying overnight at my mates house.
I think we scored pretty late, and with minutes to go, my mates uncle left the ground, convinced of defeat, and walked back to my mates house.
Two injury time goals for Burnley later, they win the game.
My mates mum and aunt put up claret and blue balloons on the front door, and a hand made sign reading well done Burnley.
The Uncle gets back thinking they've lost, and thinks it's his brother taking the piss.
Apparently took a while to calm him down and show him the result on teletext!
To put relegation into perspective Manchester utd were in div 2 as recently as 1974. Man city were up and down from div1 to div 3 as recently as the mid noughties.
In my 69 years only Arsenal and Everton have been ever presents:)
Just this year a 2nd division team in England (Coventry) reached the English cup semi-final (final 4), and a 3rd division team in Germany got to either the quarter or semi-final of the German cup.
One of the things that can make say FA cup games interesting is that top players end up having to play on some very awful standard playing surfaces rather than on to the blade of grass perfect pitches they're used to and it can make very interesting things happen.
Here, in the UK, it's slightly different... Each top league is also known as a tier, eg. Premier League (Tier 1), Championship (Tier 2), League One (Tier 3) and League Two (Tier 4). They are then followed by the non-league divison wich is Non-League (Tier 5), afer the top non-league division, Tier 6 is split in to 2 divisions (North & South). A Tier 7 league is then split again, into 4 divisions, and so on and so on. The UK systems is normally known as a Pyramid Systems. The winners of each league are crowned winners, and move up one tier, apart from the winners of the Premier League as they can't move any higher. From tier 2 to tier 4, the second placed teams are also promoted to the next tier above, and those who are usually placed in 3rd to 6th (4 teams) are in what is called Playoffs, where they play each other twice (home & away) and each winner then plays each other for the Playoff Cup and a chance of being promoted a tier. Though in Tier 4 is seems that third placed teams are also promoted, and then 4th placed to 7th placed are in the playoffs. At the end of each season, bottom teams are generally relegated to a lower tier, e.g. bottom 3 in Premier League (Tier 1), bottom three in Championship(Tier 2), bottom 4 in League One (Tier 3) and bottom 2 in League Two (Tier 4). Not that clued up on the non-league system.
As for the main cup, we call is the FA (Football Association) cup, and a prime example of lower league teams getting quite far is actually today, where Coventry City (Tier 2) play Manchester United (Tier 1) at Coventry. The FA Cup usually starts in August, with only non-league teams, then as the rounds progress, the higher teams are then added to the mix. There are other cups here in the UK as well, like League Cup, FA Trophy, FA Vase and others. The Trophy and Vase are for non-league teams only.
American sports isn't really about competition (at least in my eyes), it's a business. The distinct difference between football and American sports is relegation. As far as I'm aware, none of the American sports have relegation and that's wild to me. You either compete, or you're gone.
My team, Leeds United went from the very top of fighting for Champions Leagues (we were robbed in 1975 by Bayern Munich and a corrupt referee), winning Division 1 (which is now known as the Premier League) all the way down to League 1 and didn't get back to the Premier League for 16 years. It's brutal, but it's competition.
The German Football Association organizes a league system with up to 13 levels in more than 2000 leagues and with more than 30.000 teams (numbers for males only). In total 2.2 Million Germans are registered as active Football players and part of the male, women, youth or senior league systems (2.5% of the whole population). It's a huge pyramid with on top league and a large number of small locale leagues on the bottom all connected thru the relegation system.
If you have enough money you can support a team on the lowest level, attract good players and start a journey thru many years with 12 relegations to compete on the highest level.
One Example is Dietmar Hopp (Founder of SAP). He played in a small club in the small town Hoffenheim and supported this club after getting a billionaire. It's now one of the best teams in Germany.
it is always confusing for americans the difference between clubs and nations, the champions league (depending on which country) takes for example the 5 best english teams (with the most points), 4 best german teams, 5 spanish teams etc... all across europe you would see like paris vs madrid, manchester vs munich, roma vs lisbon, the world cup is nation vs nation you would see france vs spain or germany vs england and is not limited to europe it's the entire world
if there was a north american champions league let's say the first 3 teams finishing the usa league with the most point (at the top of the board) are new york, miami and los angeles then they would be qualified to play the champions league against the teams that did the same in canada and mexico it would be like new york, miami, los angeles, toronto, montreal, ontario, mexico city, tijuana and chihuahua and they would fight each other until only one is left
league and cup = new york vs boston or miami vs los angeles (only cities in one country national level)
champions league = new york vs montreal or tijuana vs miami (only strongest cities on the same continent)
world cup = america vs russia or mexico vs china (country vs country all across the world)
All of this is explained in the show Welcome to Wrexham, it follows Wrexham FC who are now famously owned by Ryan Reynolds and Rob Mclheny! Highly recommend the show especially to Americans, you will come out of it a fan of football, or “soccer” as you guys would say!
In England there’s 4 main divisions - FA Premier League - EFL Championship- EFL League One - EFL League Two, however there’s a whole pyramid going even lower! National League and so on! There’s a route for any semi pro team to work their way up to the Top! Luton Town are currently Premier League, but have been as low as 5th tier!
The part about the smaller clubs knocking out the larger clubs is fairly common, Coventry City play in the English second tier and play Manchester United in the semi finals of the FA Cup this weekend. There have been second division clubs make the final a few times over the 21st century, the German Cup has a second division club in the final this year. It's most likely to happen in England, Germany or France but has happened in other countries but less frequently. It's been known for sides in the 5th division in England to knock out teams in the Premier League.
A nine-month league with no payoffs, will almost always mean that the best and most consistent team in the league will be crowned champions.
The trouble with payoffs is, any team could be average for most of the season, then sneak in at the last minute, and do well in a one-off tournament consisting of seven games.
So you're saying the same system that is used for the World Cup, European Championship, Copa America, African Cup of Nations, Asian Cup and all European international club competitions doesn't result in a deserving winner. That's quite a claim.
@@citizenpb That's exactly what I'm saying.
@@citizenpbI wouldnt say non deserving winner. The winner isnt always "the best team". If they win their opponents they are deserving winner. Like is Coventry city 4th best team in England this season. Propably not, but do they deserve their semi final spot? Ofc they do. The beauty of the game is that on a good day anyone can win.
If you wanna reward the team who has been the best team for whole year the European style is better for that. If you wanna reward the team who is best at the end of the season American style is better for that.
@@henrimarjoan7876 I'm not sure you understand the American psychology. For them the purpose of professional sport is to win and therefore the best team is the winning team, by definition. No-one cares what anyone did at the start of the season, or whether they were more consistent, won a few more games against bad teams, racked up more stats, whatever. They don't care about fairness or deserving. Those are European concepts. They only about winners, about what you do in the big games against the big teams, in the playoffs, the Superbowl, the World Series, the Stanley Cup. They even have a phrase for it - the clutch player, someone who does it when it matters. Reggie Jackson, a first ballot inductee to the baseball Hall of Fame, was known as Mr October for a reason.
The champions league is a club competition. The top three or four teams from the previous season are invited to participate, suplemented by teams from lower profile leagues that play a kind of miniature playoff at the start of their league season.
Relegation is the consequence for failing to accumulate enough points. European qualification is the reward for achieving a high league finish. It makes the last few weeks of the season very interesting because there are little battles through the league table to try and secure safety etc.
It's funny he chose Germany as an example as in the German league system reserve teams owned by larger clubs are actually quite common, so he got that bit slightly wrong, but reserve teams such as Dortmund II or FC Bayern Munich II just aren't allowed to play in the top two divisions so they can never play higher than league 3. In the UK most of the top teams have an U21 team which plays in their own separate youth league, the players in these teams can actually be called up to play for the senior team e.g. during a bad spell of injuries this year Liverpool had to play several of their U21 players.
The lower leagues have playoffs, so normally (it depends on the league) the top 2 teams are promoted automatically and then teams 3rd to 6th go into a playoffs. they play a semi-finals and then a final with the winner of these becoming the 3rd promoted team.
Regarding the underdog upset part. There was one time where my local team, Wigan Athletic, won the FA Cup after beating Manchester City. That same year they got relegated from the Premier League. I went to college in Wigan at the time and was in town the day that they brought the trophy home. The town centre was packed. I didn't stay to see it and kind of regret not watching it.
In Germany in the last few years there have been some clubs relegating to the 2nd or even the 3rd division, that are under the top 10 of the all time table since 1963. Some are struggling to come back and more or less teams with less money and fans, but with great team spirit and no pressure "having to promote" get up instead, but these big teams never lose their fans. Germanys 2nd Division is the most attended 2nd Division in the world because of these teams
Europe's version of the world cup is the Eurocup, which is played every four years.
It's like the World Cup but only with European teams and it is played this year between June and July.
Its a little bit more complicated than that. For example, England have 2 cups. The FA CUP and The CARABAO CUP. This season england had 5 teams play in champions league, three in Europa league and one in Europa conference league competitions.
Also there is a play off for one spot in the premier league promotion.
The championship has the teams 1st and 2nd get automatic promotion, while teams in 3rd to 6th play a knockout tournament and the winner gaining promotion.
In the Champions League the clubs don't represent the countries, as multiple teams from the same country usually qualify. The Champions League is just a tournament to see what the best team in Europe is. In a way it is kind of like March Madness where all of the teams from different conferences meet eachother in a knockout competition.
Cool vid! - To clarify Champions league are club teams who finished in the top positions of each country’s league from the previous season
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Minnows beating giants is one of the rare but great parts of the trophy run, and it gives small teams the chance to play at big stadiums, and get a good turnout (and payout) depending on where they finish.
In the English league structure the top 5 levels are pro, and below that you get semi-professional and amateur teams. In some parts of the country the structure goes down 20 levels. One example is Dorking Wanderers FC, which is a club that was founded in 1999 by a group of friends who wanted to play together - they started playing at level 17 of the “pyramid” structure and in the next 24 years they were promoted 12 times, so this year they were playing in the National League, which is level 5; unfortunately they’ve not had a good season and they’ve been relegated so next season they’ll be playing in the National League South, which is one of two leagues at level 6.
My team last year in the cup competition beat 5 teams from leagues above, including away at a Premier League team, making it to the quarter finals. It was so fun
It doesn't happen often that teams from lower leagues reach high in the cup, but this year I know of three such situations. The biggest sensation is Germany's Saarbrucken, which plays at the THIRD level and reached the semifinals of the German Cup. Along the way, they beat three teams from Germany's top league including Bayern (a team that has won 11 straight national championships). In the semifinals they fell to Kaiserslautern from the second level. The final will be between a team from the first and second level (Leverkusen - Kaiserslautern). The situation is identical in Poland, where one of the country's top teams, Pogoń Szczecin, will face second-tier Wisła Kraków in the final
Notes while watching:
As for the 'Giant Killings' in the club competitions then yes you usually have a couple each year, currently there are 4 teams remaining. Manchester City, Chelsea, Manchester United and the 4th team still left in the cup is Coventry City who currently are 8th place in the 2nd division. If they beat Manchester United then they will be through to the final.
Relegation (in my opinion) is the best part of the sport. Having battles at both the top and bottom of the league, in a way just as meaningful as each other, at the end of every season makes for unbelievable excitement. The fact that you can have a team currently in the 4th division that could be a mid table premier league standard within 10 years is part of the magic of the game. Theres multiple examples of this currently. And vice versa, like Charlton and Derby when I was growing up were Premier league clubs and now they sit in the third divison.
The champions league is a club competition, it depends on what league you are from as to how many teams get a place (too long-winded to type here) so lets use Premier League, the top 4 teams of the previous season get a place in the Champions league group stage for the following year. So to answer the question about 'super team' then no its just the standard clubs teams, especially as countries have multiple clubs representing them (the example on screen is Dortmund vs Munich which are both German). It only trails the World Cup and Euros (World cup style but European nations only) in viewing figures for the most watched sports events globally, and its every year unlike the previous two which are both every 4.
to help you out - no playoff system in European football - there is the league title where all play home and away (38 game season) and points are awarded - winner is most points won, then there are the cup competitions (FA Cup and League Cup in England) these are straight knockout and teams are drawn from a hat totally randomly, EVERY team in England no matter how big/small enters (the bigger sides enter later on in Round 3) the goal for the lower league sides is to get a game against a Man Utd, Arsenal etc as it is a big money spinner for them and keeps their club going.
If you win League you qualify for a European Competition (Champions League) where all the Champions (and up to 4th place to bump up numbers) play midweek against each other in a number of mini leagues and then in to a last 16 knockout - the bigger sides generally win (Real Madrid are going for their 15th win this year)
its fairly common that a lower league team beats a premier league team and gets far in the FA cup in England but a premier league team wins the final 9/10 times. i think you got confused with the champions league its not country vs country its the best teams in each country vs each other
There are so many great football tournaments during the year from the FA Cup to the Champions League. It's so exciting. Promotion and relegation mean that every match is important to us and determines the future of every club. The UEFA European Championship starts in June so we hope you will be able to livestream the matches. Come on England 😍⚽
Lower league teams do occasionally come pretty far in the cup and sometimes even win the title. For example there is a 2nd division team in the German cup final right now, while they are on the brink of being relegated to 3. division in the league.
And a 3rd Division team knocked out 3 first division teams during the earlier cup rounds.
UEFA Champions League is clubs, the UEFA European Championship is European countries (think World Cup but only Europe) and that takes place every 4 years in between World Cup cycles (so next 3 tournaments for European countries are 2024 Euros, 2026 World Cup and 2028 Euros)
We had a team from the sixth league beat a team from the 2nd league this year and made the last 16 of the cup, that was pretty impressive. It was basically cab drivers v professionals
There are always big surprises when professional teams are playing against amateur teams in the cup. In the semifinals of the German cup this year there were left: one team from the first division (Bundesliga), two from the second division (2. Bundesliga) and even a team from the third division (Saarbrücken from the 3. Liga which is defined as an amateur league). Saarbrücken kicked out several Bundesliga teams - with the help of their homeground pitch which was terribly wet and deep. Professional teams are not used to play under these conditions. In the German cup the amateur team is always playing at home. 😁
This German cup year was special. But each year at least one professional team is kicked out of the competition by an amateur team in the first round (sometimes real amateurs from the fifth or sixth division).
The UEFA Champions League is the competition of the best European clubs.
Imagine each country has their own NFL league, with its respective teams. The winner (usually there's more spots but lets take the winner for simplicity) of that year in USA NFL and other countries winners from their respective NFL-like leagues will go to this Champions tournament to battle it out. So it is not a national competition where you get the best players of each country together, but you play with the players that NFL team have in their squad, regardless of their nationality.
You get a few upsets a year usually. It's not unheard of for a 2nd tier team to get to semi finals or even the occasional final.
6:40 It happens that a lower tier team knocks out a bigger team (once or twice ... big runs also happen every few years) + this is great for small teams to get a cash cut from TV revenue (because everyone wants to watch big teams)
So for this season in the FA Cup (English league football cup open to all teams pro and semi-pro) 732 teams entered the competition. We are currently down to the last 4 teams, and they play their games this weekend to decide who will contest the final this year.
There was a team this season called Maidstone United who play semi pro football in the 6th tier and this season they got to the last 16 teams left.
German cup final this year is between Leverkusen (became champs this year) and Kaiserslautern wich is second division team, so it does happen that lower division teams make it all the way to the final in the cup competition
There is an English Championship (2nd Division) side in the Semi-Final of this years FA Cup, Coventry City. They play Man United this Sunday.
The team who are currently 8th in The Championship (2nd tier of English football) are in the semi-final of the FA Cup, so giant killings or cupsets, aren't that unusual
If you look at the current Cup final in Germany, its Kaiserslautern vs Leverkusen.
When you want to spot their current league positions you will notice that Kaiserlautern is no where to be found.
This is cause they are currently in the 2. Bundesliga and in the 21/22 season they were in 3. Bundesliga.
They are also a team that in 95/96 won the cup in the same year they got relegated to the second league and followed it up by winning the second league in 96/97 and then the Bundesliga in 97/98.
Leverkusen is already league champion cause the second place can't reach the amount of points in the remaining games and they can also still win the UEFA Cup, thats like a "Second tier Champioins League" (teams that were good but couldn't make the champions league and the 3rd placed teams of the group phase of each group in the Champions League).
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The "interesting concept" is about jeopardy; rewards for success and pain for failure. This creates true competition when the stakes are so high. For the fan there is nothing more exciting than the final fixture date of the season leaving multiple outcomes possible depending on results.
It happens quite often that big teams get knocked out of the Cup here in germany. Especially in the first round. The first round cup games are the first pro games for division 1 teams after a long and hard preseason while the lower division teams are already up to 4 weeks into their season. So you have matches between lower division teams that are fully into competition mode versus top division teams that have no clue where they're standing and if their tactics works.
4th division team Saarbrücken knocked out Bayern Munich, Eintracht Frankfurt and Borussia Mönchengladbach this year until they lost in the semis.
There are play-offs in each league for the 4 teams behind the automatic promotion places. In the Championship (UK 2nd tier) when the 4 teams are reduced to 2, that final promotion match is reckoned to be the richest game in world football. The winner gets revenues approaching 150 million because of now playing in the Premiership (top UK tier). Edit. Other people are suggesting you watch Welcome to Wrexham following Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney buying a 5th tier club in Wales that plays in the English system. Recommended.
Couple of ways that this is wrong
Firstly the cup is not our version of a playoff, our version of a playoff is a ..playoff (see second point) the cup is a full blown domestic tournament
ways the FA cup differs from a playoff are as follows
1) its got 900 teams, not 6
2) its random ...the teams dont know who they will play next untill their name is drawn from a hat (playoffs use a bracket)
3) not all teams start in the same round of the tournament, teams in higher leagues get to start later
For example (highest league to lowest)
The 20 Premier League teams start in the 3rd round
72 EFL teams ....2nd round
72 National League teams ..1st round
Below National League start in the Qualifiers (see below)
4) it has QUALIFYING rounds for amateur and semi-pro levels of the league system
Secondly ...we HAVE playoffs already (as mentioned in the first point) in England the leagues below the premier league have playoffs ...its just not used to decide the winner of the league (the trophy always goes to whoever finishes top ultimately)
instead the top 2 are automatically promoted and the playoff is then used to determine the 3rd team to joon them
It is contested by the teams that finish positions 3rd ,4th ,5th and 6th
I think its because we believe its unfair for the winner to be the team that finished 3rd, but we still wanted a end of season spectacle 😂
Also in germany they have a wierd promotion/relegation playoff where the bottom team of the top league plays the top team of division 2, winner joins (or stays in the case of the bottom team) the top league
Sorry ..that was a long one, but i hope it clears it up 😂
There are playoffs in English football. They're not playoff "series" like say NHL or NBA where they play a best of 7 each round. But it's typically used to determine the final promotion spot for the higher division. Take the Football League Championship for example (second tier in England) 1st place wins the title & gets automatic promotion, 2nd place are the runners up & get automatic promotion, 3rd-6th placed teams compete in a playoff straight after the season. 3rd place plays the 6th placed team, 4th place plays 5th, they play 2 games against each other, home & away, higher placed team gets the second game at home (similar to home ice advantage in NHL) the goals from the first game are carried over to the second which is called "goal aggregate". So if the first game ends 3-1, the losing team could win 3-0 in the next game to bring the goal aggregate to 3-4. The winners of those then compete at Wembley in the playoff final. Winner gets promotion to Premier League. The divisions below also pretty much use the same system.
The semi finals of the playoffs in England are sttructured similarly to the playoff format (before the Stanley Cup Finals) that NHL had for almost its first 2 decades. That is a two-legged total-goals setup where the team with the most goals advance to the next round.
You do get some upsets in the cup competitions and a few minnows taking down the odd giant. However, those small teams pretty much win the lottery just by getting drawn to play a big team. Like that one game could make them more money than every other game through the season put together.
Not to mention the moments when some part time players get to line up against their heroes or world class players, it's the greatest moment of their careers.
Imagine being a low paid professional basketball player, so you have to have a part time job. Somehow your team upsets one or two other teams and you get to the next round that the NBA teams get brought into the draw..... then you're rag tag bunch of semi-professionals get drawn to play the Lakers in LA or the Knicks at MSG. Yeah, your team will get smashed, but what an experience for people that would never make the NBA. :D
So you’re saying getting smashed can be a great experience? 🤔
Teams promoted from the championship (2nd Division) to the Premiership (1st Division) get 100+ million pawarded to them and then around the same each year they stay in the league so the cash insentive to stay in the Premiership is immense. And amazingly all this cash comes from the Broadcasting rights...Football is BIG business!!! Plus LOL we dont even get all the games broadcasted here in England. But everywhere else in the world seems to have all 10 games on TV.
Champions League is a club based competition, against champion clubs in Europe & is held every year. The Euros are a country based competition against other European countries & is held every 4 years. It usually sits in-between the World Cup. We had the World Cup in 2022 (Qatar) & we have the European Football Championships (Germany) in June this year, 2024. Hope this helps 👍
3:45 think of it like this for the leagues. everyone played everyone TWICE and there are around 20 tams in a league. so 38 games. I believe that's enough games for the best of the best to get on top and the worst of the worst to fall to the bottom. Sure you might have a bad game but one bad game will very rarely cost you a season
Champions League is the teams playing in their respective domestic League, not the National teams you watched in The World Cup. It's effectively qualified for based on your League position in the full domestic season. For example, all the Winners of the top league in each country. They do allow some 2nd, 3rd and 4th placed teams from the major european leagues but i dint want to complicate if further.
It's not a matter of life or death,it's more important than that 😂
Only three teams from outside the top tier of the English Leage (The Premiership) have won the FA cup in the modern era (say after 1960) and only one team from below the 4th tier (so therfore semi-professional) has ever made it to the quarter finals. But if a small team that typically charge $20 (US) for a ticket and has a typical crowd of 3,500 at home, gets to play say Liverpool at their ground - with a crowd of 60,000 - where a typical ticket is $120 (US) they get half of the ticket sales from that game - so as much as money from that one game as they would get from around 50 games normally. They also get a huge TV fee as well. Its a way of distributing across the game some of the huge wealth the top clubs have. A big dispute in England at the moment is the big clubs are trying to get out of playing so many 'Cup' games at a national level in England so they can play more international games in the Champions League, where they they make huge amounts of money and dont have to share with the small clubs. And to be clear, the Champions Leage are the club teams only. They are not representing their country and only the 44 countries in Europe play in it. UEFA only covers Europe, FIFA are the world body.
6:41 although it is rare. This year a team from the second devision did make it all the way to the semi final in the FA cup in England round and only barely missed out of the finals in a penalty kick shoot out.
Almost every year there are several big shocks in the FA Cup yes it's the best club teams enter Champions League, so you'll have Man City playing Real Madrid for example
Oh the smaller clubs regularly perform well above their level for a number of reasons many of the top clubs can't risk their best player being injured or exhausted before playing their league games at the weekend possibly risking relegation so play conservatively while the lower level teams can earn enough money from a big match against a top team to finance their whole season and young players in the lower divisions can catch the eye of top tier clubs earning life changing opportunities for themselves and excellent profits in transfer fees for their club. This leads to some fantastic games with seasoned professionals struggling to hold back a relentless assault from determined young hopefuls.
"playoffs" are in the lower leagues, usually to determine the final promotion spot. Can't have a playoff in the top division, with nothing above!
One thing that is not clear from this video is how deep the league systems are. In Norway, a fairly small country in population, there's 11 levels with more than a hundred leagues, and more than 2,000 teams. Although only 50 or 60 of these teams are professional or semi-professional, they all play in the same league system.
Different clubs from the same country can play in the UEFA Champions league, its pretty common for the final to be played between teams from the same country.
UEFA Champions League is for clubs, only clubs. The FIFA World Cup, every four years, is for nationals teams. A national team is built by the best players of each nationality, no matter the club or the national league. A german player can compete during the season in a spanish team, in the spanish league, and can be drafted by the german national team head coach to represent his country on the pitch during international matches or/ and World Cup
This year a club from 2nd division is actually playing the final of the German Cup
Relegation is not the finish of a team! It goes down to the lower league, but next season if they do well enough they are promoted back up to the higher league. In the European competition, the teams are not representing their country they are representing their country’s league. As explained elsewhere, these teams can consist of foreign players as well as those from that country.
It's not even just only cities being represented (as opposed to taking on the representation of a particular country) in the Champions League... it is clubs. And clubs alone. You could not only theoretically get a final between two teams from one country (the rules allow more than just one "winning" team from each country to qualify nowadays)... but you could even get two teams from one CITY playing each other at the end. HIGHLY unlikely, but still perfectly feasible. For example, a Manchester City versus a Manchester United final is very possible long term, as long as each qualify from the domestic league and then make their way through to the final avoiding each other until the end. And the same goes for an AC Milan versus an Inter Milan final. Or, maybe, an Atletico Madrid versus a Real Madrid match. There are not that many more big rival clubs from one city where this could realistically happen perhaps, besides maybe the numerous big teams that hail from London. In any one year you could get a Champions League with Tottenham Hotspur, Chelsea and Arsenal all qualifying.
And in 2024-25, because of recent results just this week for 2023-24, the two countries with the highest coefficients will be given an extra group-stage place. So this means FIVE Premier League teams could qualify for the Champions League next year through league position... which - right now at least - gives us two London teams in the mix in Arsenal and Tottenham (plus Man City, Liverpool and Aston Villa). That could all change still though as there are five domestic league matches to go to determine the final places!
FA Cup semi final was nearly a David v Goliath upset yesterday.
Manchester United 3, Coventry City 3.
Decided on penalties, but a controversial offside decision in extra time cost Coventry the game.