My grandfather was a officer on various merchant ships and was in convoys to Murmansk and to Great Britain. He drank pretty heavily for the rest of his life because of what he went through. He didn't talk about it a lot but what he did say was pretty bad. Ships burning around them and they were unable to rescue the guys in the water because they couldn't slow down.
@@Dano12345100 My grandfather was similar. He was a royal engineer - dunkirk, bomb disposal, London, North Africa, then a couple of years in and out of hospital. It was only when I got to the legal drinking age that I realised what a heavy drinker he had been.
My late father sailed on, and survived PQ17. Enough said. I'm not sure I can bring myself to watch this film but, as someone else says, they should not be forgotten.
My wife’s Great Grandfather Ivor John Tilley was also on PQ17 and was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal. Very Brave men and we should be very proud of them.
It’s just nice to see something with no Americans in it for once…Britain and its allies deserve more screen time so people can understand and recognise the contribution they made when it was just them standing alone for nearly two years..
@@sonofwar6206 The Ju 87R added drop tanks for extended range and came in as a nasty suprise to the Royal Navy. The Ju 87D5 added wing tanks and extended wings for even more range. The range was recorded as 715 km (444 mi) at ground level and 835 km (519 mi) at 5,000 m (16,000 ft) including bomb load and reserves. Some sources give 620miles. German ranges at the time were are normally given at maximum cruising speed. -The reality was that the Ju 88 with the Lotfe 7B computing bomb sight and StuVi 5B shallow dive bombing sight was as accurate as the Ju 88 dive bombing plus it had twin engine safety.
We need more movies about the Atlantic war, the merchant navy was vital to our success. My grandad was on a few ships, running in reverse around africa after the bow was torpedoed and a survivor of the Lancastria sinking, only wish he could have written a book on his exploits.
This is a story we don’t know enough about. I hope to honor the memory of these heroes by watching the film. My grandfather was too old to participate as a sailor so he served as a merchant marine instead
A lot of interest from Merseyside where people can still visit the Western Approaches war rooms ,many Merseysiders perished on those convoys...cheers from the Wirral peninsula,bounded by the mersey and the Dee and the Irish sea...geography and rhyme...E...
I would love to watch this in the cinema but being in Australia, I doubt they will show it in any cinemas here. If I am lucky, I might be able to find it on DVD or wait a few years where it might be shown on free TV. We have a channel that plays non-stop international films called 'SBS World Movies'.
This is about convoy PQ 17 that started in Iceland. Iceland had many US and British airfields and is JUST below the Arctic Circle. A Hudson had a range of 1700 NMiles. The convoys were heading to Murmask. that's about 1100 NMiles. Also RAF 151 squadren operetaed Hudsons from Murmask to Defend convoys. So between RAF bases in Iceland and Murmask Russia there would be no problem
@@timmycolpman Thanks for explaining that detail, mate. I thought they were only used around the British Isles and that Sunderlands were used for long-range patrols.
Cloudy , moody ,brutal ,cold ,(not super shiny or super hd "insaaaane" cgi ) dark menacing airbourne fear from above , likely how it was ,looking forward to this.
There are so many untold stories of everyday people rising to the challenge to fight the dark side of humanity. These stories need to be told so we all remember them, and to maybe help make us better than we are.
Gotta notice how the obvious "Soviet Forces" is simply read as "Allied". Just a very small example of those little things that keep people forgetting about how important the Soviet Union was during this war
So at 1:52 that looks like a land-based Bofors 40mm antiaircraft gun that's part of their cargo, and they're going to use it to shoot at the attacking Luftwaffe. Surprise!
That is just plain BS, never happening. So my suspicion that some "über-Norwegians" win the war alone is still around, in reality PQ17 was slaughtered after the RN chicked out because of Tirpitz and friends left port. Planes (around 200) and 8 subs slaughtered them, fun is, the survivors run into a russian minefield, losing more ships...
I had a friend who served on north Atlantic convoys, now long dead. They used to travel so far north to try to avoid submarine attack, that men roped to the ship had to permanently be on deck with pick-axes to remove deck ice. The waves would congeal and freeze as they broke over the ship. His teeth, like many of his crewmates, had been reduced to stumps from chewing on the stem of a pipe, so intense was the unremitting stress. So many lives lost to the bottom of the sea also bringing critical aid to Russia in the face of German invasion. Was any of this taught as history in post war USSR - no. Is it denied now as history in Russia - yes. Orwell was a prophet.
It absolutely was taught in the Soviet Union (and Russia), and it was not taught in the UK. It took Putin giving medals to survivors of the convoys for the UK government to get a dedicated medal for it, too.
>Was any of this taught as history in post war USSR - no. Actually, it was taught. And, as far as I know, it still in school history books. When I was a child, school history lessons mentioned works of V. Pikul about PQ-17 (and it was a whole film about this).
Do you know how much US history is not taught in American high schools? Any attempt to update old text books is met with small minds resisting change of any sort, it is called conservatism. Don't ever tell anything negative about the states even if it is true.
Clearly the creators of CGI aircraft have yet to master the basics of flight, pretty toys performing impossible maneuvers. I suggest the viewers watch some real footage of W.W.II combat aircraft in flight. Theres too much reliance on quick fix digital solutions to special effects these days. Go see the 1969 movie 'The Battle of Britain' for real aircraft combat.
I wish it was made by the British, too. The less glamorous aspects of the war - the Atlantic convoys, this, and most of all the bombing campaign (which saw the highest percentage of British and Commonwealth killed as part of the overall numbers taking part of all the major campaigns of WW2, and which also saw in one raid more RAF men killed than the entire Battle of Britain), have been long neglected.
@@Judgmentdayz Hollywood movies are just as bad, though. Most CGI kinda ruins movies. SOME CGI that is expertly done is ok, but the vast majority is bad. They should just stay away from it in general.
I agree some CGI is bad, and that’s because it’s hard sometimes. But I’d recommend watching “No CGI is really just invisible CGI” on CZcams by The Movie Rabbit Hole. You might be surprised to see where it’s used when you think it isn’t.
oh - another BS movie about "heroes at the arctics"? I haven´t seen dozens of subs destroyed, yet, so maybe some realism could be seen. The real PQ17-event was a massacre of epic proportions German casulties were zero subs but some planes. There was a point why all summer convoys stopped after PQ17.
Watch Bogarts "Action in the North Atlantic" you hear me Mister? Realistic (no women served Merchant Ships but Woke bs dictates at least 1) with far btr acting & great effects
CGI ruins movies. This looks like a good idea for a movie, but the CGI brings it down a notch. Just use miniatures and practical effects. I'm staying away from movies with CGI. It's too fake looking.
Nice to see the men of the Murmansk convoys finally getting some recognition.
My grandfather was a officer on various merchant ships and was in convoys to Murmansk and to Great Britain. He drank pretty heavily for the rest of his life because of what he went through.
He didn't talk about it a lot but what he did say was pretty bad. Ships burning around them and they were unable to rescue the guys in the water because they couldn't slow down.
@@Dano12345100 My grandfather was similar. He was a royal engineer - dunkirk, bomb disposal, London, North Africa, then a couple of years in and out of hospital. It was only when I got to the legal drinking age that I realised what a heavy drinker he had been.
Helping Russia maintain its oppression of the Baltic States. What a messed up world.
My dad served on HMS Kent on the kola run in the war.
My late father sailed on, and survived PQ17. Enough said. I'm not sure I can bring myself to watch this film but, as someone else says, they should not be forgotten.
My dad served on the heavy cruiser on HMS Kent on the Kola Run in WW2.
My wife’s Great Grandfather Ivor John Tilley was also on PQ17 and was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal. Very Brave men and we should be very proud of them.
Generally, I love Norwegian movies. Can’t wait to see this one.
A brief glimpse of an Albacore, a Hudson and a Ju88 nice. It's nice to see something besides Ju87s in a WW2 movie.
Ju-87 not use in artic front because the range of this plane is not suffisant.
@@sonofwar6206😅
It’s just nice to see something with no Americans in it for once…Britain and its allies deserve more screen time so people can understand and recognise the contribution they made when it was just them standing alone for nearly two years..
@@sonofwar6206 The Ju 87R added drop tanks for extended range and came in as a nasty suprise to the Royal Navy. The Ju 87D5 added wing tanks and extended wings for even more range. The range was recorded as 715 km (444 mi) at ground level and 835 km (519 mi) at 5,000 m (16,000 ft) including bomb load and reserves. Some sources give 620miles. German ranges at the time were are normally given at maximum cruising speed.
-The reality was that the Ju 88 with the Lotfe 7B computing bomb sight and StuVi 5B shallow dive bombing sight was as accurate as the Ju 88 dive bombing plus it had twin engine safety.
We need more movies about the Atlantic war, the merchant navy was vital to our success. My grandad was on a few ships, running in reverse around africa after the bow was torpedoed and a survivor of the Lancastria sinking, only wish he could have written a book on his exploits.
Checkout 'The Cruel Sea' 1953, Jack Hawkins and Donald Sinden, probably the definitive Atlantic Sea British war flic
@@nickokorien The book is even better
Greyhound was pretty good at showing some of the action by those heroes. But I would like to see more Atlantic theatre war movies as well!
@@angloirishcad totally agree great book 👍
@@nickokorien great film 👍
The bravest unsung heroes of the war.
This is a story we don’t know enough about. I hope to honor the memory of these heroes by watching the film. My grandfather was too old to participate as a sailor so he served as a merchant marine instead
A lot of interest from Merseyside where people can still visit the Western Approaches war rooms ,many Merseysiders perished on those convoys...cheers from the Wirral peninsula,bounded by the mersey and the Dee and the Irish sea...geography and rhyme...E...
Livery won the longest and most important battle of the war………an unappreciated fact
My grandfather served on the Fast Heavy Crusier USS Tucaloosa, which was an escort that was recalled from the convoy by Brittish command
Seems likes it's based on PQ17, Jeremy Clarkson did a documentary on those guys.
It is base on the story of convoy PQ17.
So cool, I remember reading about that when I was a kid.
I would love to watch this in the cinema but being in Australia, I doubt they will show it in any cinemas here. If I am lucky, I might be able to find it on DVD or wait a few years where it might be shown on free TV. We have a channel that plays non-stop international films called 'SBS World Movies'.
I see what you did there
We need more movies about our Australian and New Zealand heroes!
Where abouts are you in Australia?
the kind of movie i like
I'm not sure how a Hudson could reach the Arctic, but I really like the Ju-88 depicted attacking the convoy.
This is about convoy PQ 17 that started in Iceland. Iceland had many US and British airfields and is JUST below the Arctic Circle. A Hudson had a range of 1700 NMiles. The convoys were heading to Murmask. that's about 1100 NMiles. Also RAF 151 squadren operetaed Hudsons from Murmask to Defend convoys. So between RAF bases in Iceland and Murmask Russia there would be no problem
@@timmycolpman Thanks for explaining that detail, mate. I thought they were only used around the British Isles and that Sunderlands were used for long-range patrols.
@@andrewstrongman305 Plus, those squadrons based in the Orkneys, way up there into the North Atlantic.
Cloudy , moody ,brutal ,cold ,(not super shiny or super hd "insaaaane" cgi ) dark menacing airbourne fear from above , likely how it was ,looking forward to this.
Wow, this looks like it will be an amazing movie!! Can't wait!!
That looks wickedly good!
I had a manager who served on the Arctic convoys, he said it was horrendous
Looks great!
This one will be a hit!!
movie looks alright. I'm just glad to see this aspect of the war getting more attention.
where will it be available?
There are so many untold stories of everyday people rising to the challenge to fight the dark side of humanity. These stories need to be told so we all remember them, and to maybe help make us better than we are.
I want to see a movie about Operation Highjump
Looks good.
That's terrific. Where can I watch it? Oh. I can't.
A double feature with Greyhound.
Was this the same convoy that HMS Ayrshire was on. That would make a good film.
Looks good. I believe I saw this movie with Humphrey Bogart in it.
Action in the North Atlantic. czcams.com/video/fSlXvzNwmKc/video.html
Looks pretty good - my father was there so a bit more interest for me.
Not seeing any ice on the ships in the trailer. That stuff was everywhere in the arctic routes.
not in the summer, that massacre of allied ships was in july 1942.
Looks good
Looks good, where can I see ?
This is PQ17
Where to watch
Ok, I'm in. Hope they don't dub it on me.
Gotta notice how the obvious "Soviet Forces" is simply read as "Allied". Just a very small example of those little things that keep people forgetting about how important the Soviet Union was during this war
The hyenas are still afraid of the dead lion.
@@st.klitus ☭
_Tirpitz has entered the chat_
So at 1:52 that looks like a land-based Bofors 40mm antiaircraft gun that's part of their cargo, and they're going to use it to shoot at the attacking Luftwaffe. Surprise!
That is just plain BS, never happening. So my suspicion that some "über-Norwegians" win the war alone is still around, in reality PQ17 was slaughtered after the RN chicked out because of Tirpitz and friends left port. Planes (around 200) and 8 subs slaughtered them, fun is, the survivors run into a russian minefield, losing more ships...
I had a friend who served on north Atlantic convoys, now long dead. They used to travel so far north to try to avoid submarine attack, that men roped to the ship had to permanently be on deck with pick-axes to remove deck ice. The waves would congeal and freeze as they broke over the ship. His teeth, like many of his crewmates, had been reduced to stumps from chewing on the stem of a pipe, so intense was the unremitting stress.
So many lives lost to the bottom of the sea also bringing critical aid to Russia in the face of German invasion. Was any of this taught as history in post war USSR - no. Is it denied now as history in Russia - yes.
Orwell was a prophet.
In Russia we study at school about arctic conwoy PQ-13,PQ-17 Please do not spread propaganda
It absolutely was taught in the Soviet Union (and Russia), and it was not taught in the UK. It took Putin giving medals to survivors of the convoys for the UK government to get a dedicated medal for it, too.
>Was any of this taught as history in post war USSR - no.
Actually, it was taught.
And, as far as I know, it still in school history books. When I was a child, school history lessons mentioned works of V. Pikul about PQ-17 (and it was a whole film about this).
fela, you've been brainwashed by Western propaganda machine
Do you know how much US history is not taught in American high schools? Any attempt to update old text books is met with small minds resisting change of any sort, it is called conservatism. Don't ever tell anything negative about the states even if it is true.
The trailer is even better than the whole Greyhound movie.
My grandad was merchant navy. Not soldier carries a gun
what's the release date for this PC game?
cant wait to read this movie
you don't like subs?
Clearly the creators of CGI aircraft have yet to master the basics of flight, pretty toys performing impossible maneuvers. I suggest the viewers watch some real footage of W.W.II combat aircraft in flight. Theres too much reliance on quick fix digital solutions to special effects these days. Go see the 1969 movie 'The Battle of Britain' for real aircraft combat.
Looks good. Wish it was in English.
I wish it was made by the British, too. The less glamorous aspects of the war - the Atlantic convoys, this, and most of all the bombing campaign (which saw the highest percentage of British and Commonwealth killed as part of the overall numbers taking part of all the major campaigns of WW2, and which also saw in one raid more RAF men killed than the entire Battle of Britain), have been long neglected.
Looks wayyyyyy better than Greyhound!
Remember children. If you fall into the North Atlantic sea in winter in ordinary clothes you freeze to death in a minute - maybe two.
I didn't know women served on WW2 merchant ships. That seems a little "distracting".
Norway might have been the exception. For example I can remember seeing a picture in some air magazine of a mixed Norwegian air crew.
@@goodgod77 yes there's another recent movie with a mixed Norwegian Merchant
Navy crew, who suffered huge losses btw
how else would you get guys to sign up for the merchant navy?
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What language is this
Norwegian.
@@richstex4736 ok
Nortraship was Norwegian
@@mastermariner490 ok
@@richstex4736 ok
The Germans always come back... be reassured😮 Nowadays in the shape of supposedly harmless camping site invaders. 😬
It is just me or movie CGI have degraded over the last 20 years. Some CGI are so obvious. Also, the colors are very grey in CGI-ridden movies.
its also a norweigan movie. they dont have the budget for super good shots
@@Judgmentdayz Hollywood movies are just as bad, though. Most CGI kinda ruins movies. SOME CGI that is expertly done is ok, but the vast majority is bad. They should just stay away from it in general.
I agree some CGI is bad, and that’s because it’s hard sometimes. But I’d recommend watching “No CGI is really just invisible CGI” on CZcams by The Movie Rabbit Hole. You might be surprised to see where it’s used when you think it isn’t.
Forgien films like this arent going to have great anything besides story
It is just you. CGI hasn't degraded. It costs a lot of money so it depends on how much the studio spends
Why are Thier coats open??????
because they are real men, not wussies lol
oh - another BS movie about "heroes at the arctics"? I haven´t seen dozens of subs destroyed, yet, so maybe some realism could be seen.
The real PQ17-event was a massacre of epic proportions
German casulties were zero subs but some planes. There was a point why all summer convoys stopped after PQ17.
Watch Bogarts "Action in the North Atlantic" you hear me Mister? Realistic (no women served Merchant Ships but Woke bs dictates at least 1) with far btr acting & great effects
There were no women on Norwegian ships. Stop this modern propaganda.
CGI ruins movies. This looks like a good idea for a movie, but the CGI brings it down a notch. Just use miniatures and practical effects. I'm staying away from movies with CGI. It's too fake looking.
WHEN?!