The best way to hang a pulley in a tree without climbing - Mockup Demo
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- This method allows you to hang a pulley from a tree while keeping both of your feet on the ground. The pulley can be removed from the tree with nothing more than a hook attached to the rope going through the pulley. I use this for easy hanging and maintenance of dipole wire antennas.
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Hanging a pulley in a tree series (⭐ = you are here)
1. Putting it up: • The best way to hang a...
2. Taking it down: • The best way to hang a...
3. ⭐ Mockup demo: • The best way to hang a...
4. Drop weight adjustment: • Using a drop weight to...
5. Pulley assembly build: • Building a Pulley Asse...
Materials & Tool Links (some are affiliate links)
• 12oz throw weight (by Weaver Leather): amzn.to/3SNU8J1
• 1/2 in OD x 3/8 in ID vinyl tubing: amzn.to/3Cu7QeY
• 3/8 in OD x 1/4 in ID vinyl tubing: amzn.to/3CplcJk
• 7/8" Red Nylon Pulley with Stainless Steel Swivel Eye: amzn.to/3wXO4s2
• 3/16 dacron antenna rope: www.amateurradiosupplies.com/...
- A comparable rope on Amazon: amzn.to/456skqP (highly rated)
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Upon popular request, I posted a video for making the pulley assembly: czcams.com/video/BOTzlZ409P0/video.html
Note that the rest of the videos in this series are linked in the description.
This is a real bit of genius! I have been messing with a rope and pulley in my tree for a year now, and while I put it up there with a drone and tied off one end, nothing I did even came close to the simple elegance here that lets you effortlessly leave it up there and dismount. You are brilliant!
Hey thanks! That’s funny you mentioned using a drone because I considered doing that as well. I don’t have one though 😀. I think it would still be fun to mess around with. Maybe one day.
@@MostlyBuilds thing is, the drone only replaced the arborists weight. It didnt replace any of my grey matter, haha. Thanks again -K9OPE
Haha 73
You don't need the retrieval loop. All you have to do is extend the retrieval rope all the way down to the ground. This way you won't have to deal with the retrieval hook. It is much simplerer.
That works too. My preference is to only have a single rope hanging down so the whole setup looks as clean as possible.
Just re watched it is so awesome. I’m trying to hang a cool solar lantern super high in a tree and this method is just what I need to get it up there
Hah right on! Would love to hear how it works out if you feel like reporting back
That's some beautiful sorcery!
👏👏👏 A man being Manly and solving a problem.
I’ll take it. Thanks kind stranger
This should win the MacGyver award absolutely amazing Nice job!
Thanks Pat!
Wow! Totally ingenious! Thanks a lot for sharing! 👍
super clever! well done!
That is slick! I've been racking my brain for a better way for a while. Thanks for sharing close-up and on other vid in action. 😎👍
Hey Brian! If you end up doing the same thing I'd love to hear how it worked out for ya. I've been surprised that my retrieval loops are still holding their shape + I guess the weight is just enough to prevent the rope from blowing around and getting tangled. I have 3 of these up currently, no tangles! I have some cool non-ham radio build videos coming out soon if you are interested in subscribing. Thanks for the feedback!
That's brilliant! Thanks.
I've been thinking about doing this exact thing to get my helium miner up a very tall tree which should give me great 360° radio coverage. watching this has given me the push I needed to give it a try!
Awesome to hear! In case you didn’t see my other videos, I have one of putting a pulley in an actual tree 50 feet up:
czcams.com/video/dN7wRupZ-AQ/video.html
If you have any success with your project please share!
My club is permitted to use a piece of land for field-days, but no man-made/ permanent attachments or alterations are allowed to trees etc, as it must remain as natural as possible. This is definitely worth giving a go, thank you!
Glad you like it! Just don’t let the pulley rope fall out or you’ll have to find another way to hook the retrieval loop. If this ever happens to me I’ll probably buy one of those 50 foot telescoping fiberglass poles. A bow with a fishing reel might be fun too 😀. I have a cool design for an antenna rope counterweight that I was thinking about posting. Feel free to subscribe if interested.
brilliant, thank you!
This is brilliant. Depending on the setting, i could see having the attached retrieval rope being an accident waiting to happen.
Thanks! Are you saying a permanent retrieval rope that goes all the way to the ground being a potential problem? Or are you saying there could be an issue with the retrieval loop design?
No sir. Your design is ideal for safety purposes in my opinion. Unless your alone out in the woods I guess it wouldn't matter.
@@mjcintenn ah gotcha. The only downside that I thought of for my design is if the rope going through the pulley breaks or falls out. Then you have to find a different way to hook the retrieval loop.
Outstanding!
Brilliant!
very nicely done.....hard to do in newfoundland with the ever greens soo dense and what not but very good I would say with the maples and what not
all the best
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Very Clever! Thanks for posting. -W8TJM
Bookmarked 😁
Great idea! Where were you, when I was standing on the top rungs of a fully extended extension ladder placed in the bed of my pickup truck?
haha thanks. You're all set for next time now!
Ingenious, Can I assume that you repeat this process with another assembly at the other end of the dipole at the second tree?
How do you tension your dipole to compensate for tree swaying, weights, or bungee cords?
Yup I use 3 trees. Each with a pulley using this method. I use weights to counterbalance each part of the antenna. I’ve seen other people use old car parts like brake rotors, or plastic bottles filled with sand. I made my own DIY weights out of pieces of conduit that were initially filled with sand. Then I changed the fill to use BBs used for air rifles. There are definitely easier / cheaper solutions out there. I made videos of mine if you’re interested:
Counterweight design: czcams.com/video/D-99zzglalc/video.html
Swapping the fill with BBs: czcams.com/video/30LFzLWNYWU/video.html
Thanks for sharing this great setup with everyone. Is there a parts list I'm missing? What size line? Dacron, nylon, polypro? What sort of tubing? How about that little block (pulley)?
Thanks for the kind words. The parts list is in the video description. I'll paste the relevant parts that you asked about here as well (some of these are affiliate links -- see the video description for more details about that):
- 3/16 dacron antenna rope: www.amateurradiosupplies.com/product-p/da316-500.htm
- 1/2 in OD x 3/8 in ID vinyl tubing: amzn.to/3Cu7QeY
- 3/8 in OD x 1/4 in ID vinyl tubing: amzn.to/3CplcJk
- Light duty stealth pulley: www.kf7p.com/KF7P/Pulleys.html
The rope is great. The vinyl tubing has held up so far, but it has only been one year. Next year I think I might take one down and see how the tubing is holding up. The pulleys have been fine. Some people have given feedback that I should have used higher quality pulleys (like ones used for sailing). I have no complaints yet for the ones I used though.
A few people have asked me if I could make a video of building the pulley assembly. It's on my list of things to do, but likely will be a while before I get around to it.
Best of luck with the project! Would love to hear back to see how it went for you. Hope you consider subscribing!
Very Cool, are you able to demonstrate this on an ACTUAL tree? I found that most tree's don't like to have rope rubbing against the tree bark. What I found was just tie a rock to end of the rope and hopefully that you get it down. Great in theory with a slippery pole. Try a 40 foot high tree branch V spot. Its a lot more difficult.
Yup! Here is my video of putting the pulley assembly up: czcams.com/video/dN7wRupZ-AQ/video.html
Here is another of taking it down: czcams.com/video/Uukh7nU-sXg/video.html
I don’t have a video of using the throw weight to get my paracord up there. There are lots of videos from arborists on CZcams doing it though.
I haven’t encountered any bark rubbing issues yet. Not all trees are the same I guess 😀
I noticed the sheepshank knot you had tied. I'll bet you're an Eagle Scout. :)
Haha good eye! I was a boy scout but never made it to an eagle. I should really learn more knots. Hey maybe that would be a fun series of videos! Trying all kinds of topics these days. Consider subscribing if you’re interested.
I am also trying to do this to hang a huge dipole antenna. What type of antenna are you using and what for, ham bands, Shortwave, other?
I’m using this antenna: amateurradiosupplies.com/products/ars-10098-g5rv-pro-zs6bkw-optimized-with-1-1-balun
It’s an optimized variant of the popular G5RV. You can use it on several ham bands without a tuner. I mainly use it on 40M.
This antenna uses stranded wire for the horizontal elements, but solid core ladder line. I get a fair amount of wind and the ladder line broke on me. I reached out to the website that I linked and they sold me a new one that was custom made with stranded ladder line. That’s what I have hanging up now. I’m happy with it.
Do you have a video where you made the pulley rope? The black one with antenna cable? Thanks!
I think you are referring to the pulley assembly? I don’t have a video of making this. It is on my TODO list. Others have asked about it as well.
I’ll describe the process: I used a single length of rope to avoid creating points of failure by tying multiple pieces together.
Starting from where the pulley is, I used the larger vinyl tube to put a loop of the rope through. You need to size this length of tube to wrap around your tree branch and have some hanging down. Basically I pulled the rope through this tube, slid on the pulley, and ran the rope back through the tube. Resulting in a rope that goes through the tube, is threaded through the pulley eye, and goes back down the tube.
Now at the other end of the tube (far side away from the pulley), I pulled the rope through a narrower diameter piece of vinyl tube to make the small loop that forms the slip knot loop. I don’t double back the rope through the tube on this one. I just tie it to the main part of the rope that came out of the larger tube opposite the pulley.
Then from that tie point, between the larger vinyl tube and the slip knot loop, I drop a few feet of rope for the retrieval loop. At the end of that drop I just use another length of the smaller diameter vinyl tube to run the rope through and tie it to where it entered that tube. Forming the larger retrieval loop.
That’s it really. Hope that is helpful. When I get around to filming making one I’ll try to remember to update you on this thread.
If you’re interested, please consider subscribing 😀
Update: I posted a video for making the pulley assembly: czcams.com/video/BOTzlZ409P0/video.html
Whats the purpose of putting the rope inside the PVC tubing? Also do you have instructions or video on assembling the actual rope pulley? Thanks! Very clever system.
The tubing makes it so the rope doesn’t bite into the tree and allows for it to slip easier for putting it place, taking it down, and hopefully for auto expanding as the tree grows.
I have a playlist of videos for actually putting this in a tree and taking it down: czcams.com/play/PLd1vGGfDybyEnJ1tZMBQFrmp35Y6gU4d4.html&si=sL4r0okdwcl5k4ov
The tubing also causes the retrieval loop to retain its shape and weights it down so it doesn’t blow around too much in the wind.
I’ve had 3 of these up in trees for about a year and a half. I will take them down at some point and check on how the tubing is holding up and if any design flaws have been revealed.
I don’t have a video for making the pulley assembly. This is something that is on my TODO list. A few other people have asked as well. Feel free to subscribe to my channel for when I post that. I’ll probably pin a comment on this video as well to help people find it.
@@MostlyBuilds Sounds good. I am thinking about trying your method to get my Meshtastic node up in to a tree and this looks great. Thank you!
@hemigod427 awesome! Hope it works out. Would love to hear how it went. Best of luck!
@@MostlyBuilds I think hemigod427 is asking if you have a video on how to construct the pulley assembly (the tubing, line, and pulley assembly that gets left up in the tree)
Will this method work to get the antenna up 30 feet in a large tree? I don't think you can throw that weight that high with reasonable accuracy.
I was able to throw the weight up in a tree about 40-50 feet up. It just takes several tries. I don’t throw the weight like a baseball. I hold the rope about 2 feet away from it and rock it back and forth before putting some power behind it and releasing it. You definitely have to be careful because it takes some getting used to. Several times I messed up and launched it straight up above me. It could definitely be dangerous to nearby people or property. I have also found that the rope will eventually start burning your fingers from the friction, so wearing gloves helps. I don’t have a video of me doing this, but I made several videos of messing with the rope in the tree. You can see how high up it is: czcams.com/video/dN7wRupZ-AQ/video.html
If you search CZcams, there are several videos of arborists demonstrating how to use throw weights into trees.
Anyway, if you decide to try it, be careful and good luck!
Not sure about hook retrieval nightmare. Extend loop🤔 IDK
It’s actually pretty easy to take down with the hook. I posted a video of doing it if you are interested:
czcams.com/video/Uukh7nU-sXg/video.html
Why not just tie one end of your leader rope (or another rope) to the retrieval loop as you haul the whole thing up? Then you won’t need the hook.
If I was going to do that I would probably replace the retrieval loop with a long rope. The pulley assembly is a continuous rope routed through the vinyl tubing. It wouldn’t be hard to have a long tail hang down to the ground instead of the loop. The intent is for removing the pulley in the future (not just for initial positioning). Either way I don’t want additional ropes hanging down. Maybe others don’t mind the extra rope 😀
Great idea. You must have spend some time on sailboats!
Thanks! I haven’t been on a sailboat, but that’s something I’d love to do. Maybe one of those small hobie cat catamarans one day! I have more videos coming for rope & tree stuff if you are interested in subscribing. Thanks for the comment!
Looks over complicated? All you need is the rope fix a small ring to the rope and tie the 2 ends of the rope to form an endless rope and pull it up and down. Feed your wire with a string attached.
When finished undo knot your endless rope becomes open and pulls straight away down?
Hi Rob. I optimized for having fewer ropes hanging down (just one). Your method is a good one, but visually has a second rope (the ends tied together). Having the antenna suspended with pulleys also allows it to have a LOT of give when the wind blows the trees around (I get a lot of wind where I’m located). The continuous rope method seems like it would have less flexibility in the wind department (maybe I’m wrong?). Anyway, thanks for sharing a nice option for anyone reading the comments. I’m sure some people will prefer the simplicity of the continuous rope method.
Smart! 73 PA5BAS
I thought this was a really dark video for a second.
You need to use a better pulley, sail boat quality or your ropes will get jammed.
Am I the only one who’s totally confused?
Hi John. I have other videos of using this procedure to put a pulley in an actual tree. Maybe these will be easier to understand?
Video 1 - putting it up: czcams.com/video/dN7wRupZ-AQ/video.html
Video 2 - taking it down: czcams.com/video/Uukh7nU-sXg/video.html
Brilliant!