LEGO Star Wars GHOST Comparison! (75053 vs 75357 | 2014 vs 2023)
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- In 2014 LEGO Star Wars released a Ghost playset for Star Wars Rebels and now in 2023 there's a new LEGO Star Wars Ghost playset for Star Wars Ahsoka! The new LEGO Ghost & Phantom II is superior to the 2014 Ghost in many ways... except the Minifigures.
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0:00 Intro
0:30 Minifigures
1:43 Play Features
5:50 Design/Display
9:33 Value for Money
11:19 Opinion/Final Score
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The 2014 ghost was such a classic, and the new 2023 ghost is truly a worthy successor. Perhaps in the next few years we'll receive a UCS version of the ghost!
Imagine a minifig scale ghost, like the one from brickvault…… damn that would be awesome. Very expensive, but awesome.
imo after ucs gunship retires, ghost is next
I mean we kinda already do have a UCS/minifig scale set well instructions on how to build it and what parts you will need and it’s probably better than what Lego will put out now granted it dosnt have the fancy box or certificate but everything else is just as good and it supports the community (and it’s cheaper to by the bits and build it yourself) ied say that’s worth not having a fancy box and a fancy price to go with it.
@@Zaaasc the venator has to come first
@@permeus2nd if you are referring to the minifig scale ghost by brickvault, it costs around 2,000 dollars for all the pieces (shipping fees included). You could buy a used car for that price. If lego made one it would be much cheaper
The 2014 Ghost really feels ahead of it’s time. It still holds up surprisingly well for a 9 year old set. Especially with the figures
Wow, almost an entire decade already
Most of the 2014 sets hold up fairly well. The Star destroyer from that year is one of my favorite sets and it looks very good, not to mention it comes with a handle. I think 2014 was a point in lego star wars where the designers moved to a more modern design philosophy for the sets. Idk maybe im looking to deep into it lol
Bro 2014 was not too long ago so it makes sense for it to hold up decently well
honestly, I couldn't disagree more. The new one makes the old one look really dated to me. In a way I didn't even think would be possible
2013-2014 was a new beginning for lsw
Rare time the footprint of a lego Star Wars set hasn’t been downsized in a remake
Cough cough Slave 1
It's nice for a set remake to feel like a complete upgrade to the former version. Also so glad that the scale is the same as the previous model.
The scale was the biggest thing for me. 2023 is awesome
I'm just so glad that we're finally getting some new attention to the characters from *_Star Wars Rebels_* now in live action.
Crazy to think that ghost is 9 years old, it’s very well designed for the time
I like how the new Ghost has a Phantom that looks good next to the Ghost, the old Phantom 2 set was way to big when put next to the Ghost, and when connected to the back it looked very awkward.
If they had made the Ghost a bit bigger it would've corrected most of that issue. It's definitely done in a bit smaller scale than the Phantom from back then is. There was a Clone Wars era set from *way* back that was the AT-OT dropship, and because the scale was correct, you could also use it with the AT-TE set if you also had that.
The drop ship is imo the best Lego set ever created
Hi MANDR! I see a huge upgrade from 2014-2023! I say it’s absolutely worth to buy the new Ghost. The build is just a ball out of the park, while the minifigure selection of the 2014 takes the cake for me.
I bought the Ghost in 2014 (black hair Kanan version) and looking at the 2023 version, Wow! What an improvement, especially the interior space. Has me really considering selling off the old one
you should. old ghost might fall in price with this one being as good as it is.
You could probably get a lot of money for that black hair Kanan, I heard it's pretty rare
Ryan, I just got the 2020 Droid Tank for my Birthday today, and I personally love it, I don’t think the barrel is to bad looking I’m o.k. With it! And it’s just a sweet build in my perspective point of view!😁😁
+ of the Play space: you can open air roleplay while you are building a model, i always do this, so i have more time to experience some features.
who else wants a ucs ghost coming with a lager phantom and all of the rebels crew
It’s always nice to finish editing and then see that MandR posted a new video
Hey MANDR what ever happened to the building Hoth series, it only had 2 episodes and no finale?
Just got my Ghost set and today, and after finishing the build, it is one of my favorite Star Wars playscale sets as far as exterior design goes. It just looks absolutely gorgeous, and I think the designers really knocked it out of the park here.
My only major gripe about the set is that I really think the cockpit piece should've been printed (I'm not a fan of how many stickers are here, but I can deal with all of them except for the cockpit sticker). Basically every other issue I have is purely due to the small scale of the set and therefore can't be helped, such as the inaccurate boarding ramps being a compromise for the one that should be in the front of the ship, or the fact that the Phantom II is laughably tiny (although I still think it looks superb for the scale). Additionally, the docking bay for the Phantom II looks pretty bad when the shuttle is removed, but being as that I wouldn't display the Ghost without the Phantom attached, I'm more-or-less okay with it (plus, in the 2014 version, even though you had a nice looking docking bay, it looked weird to NOT have the Phantom attached... but it perhaps looked even worse WITH it attached due to how disproportionately scaled both Phantoms are compared to the rest of the set).
At the end of the day, despite how much I love the new Ghost, I still think its slightly overpriced. Having just a couple printed pieces (*especially* the Ghost cockpit) as well as maybe another figure or two could have gone a long way towards making it really feel like a $160 set. Still, I definitely don't regret picking it up!
I think it's difficult to do, when in reality the ghost is a pretty huge ship. There's no perfect way to make a play scale version, because if you want all the functionality, either everything is going to be out of proportion or it's not going to be minifig compatible.
Like, you could say that in an ideal world we'd have a truly gigantic minifig scale UCS version of it, but the price would be ludicrous and you would never be able to play with it. I would still like that (I think it'd be really fun to have the accurate interior with all 4 of their rooms, plus the 2 rooms in the back), but it's just not the type of set they are going for here.
@stanleydodds9 That's why I think that this set is practically perfect for the scale they were working with. I'd love to see what official designers are able to do for a UCS Ghost (I've seen mocs and they look insane), but this set really is incredible for a playscale set.
Love seeing your reviews man. It gives me a much needed break from my college studies.
Wishing you the best :) 🙏
4:14 There is even worst : remember that dumb interior space in the Sequel Knights of Ren Transport ship set, which doesn't even features weaponry racks as the Ghost from 2014 does.
12:06 Perfect! 90's Logan is my favorite part of this review! 😄
I love that the new ghost comes with a phantom for sure, also is MandR going to do more speed champions reviews?
I feel like the minifigure difference is a bit of a nitpick, if we are going by what figures make sense in the set, and whether we are getting more or less than the "common sense" selection of characters.
In rebels, an obvious selection of characters would be the ghost crew; spectres 1 through 6. However, 6 characters may be unrealistic (although I don't think it's too unrealistic), and the bigger reason that this only has 3 of the 6 is that the other characters come in other sets released at the same time, notably the phantom. But anyway, let's say it comes with 3 figures that should definitely be in the set.
In Ahsoka (and in the rebels epilogue) there are exactly 3 characters living on the ghost: Hera, Chopper, and Jacen. So the obvious selection of characters for the set would be these 3 characters, and that is exactly what we get. On top of that we get a couple of new republic officers; not totally relevant to the ghost, but in my opinion this is a better choice than the single stormtrooper in the rebels set. A mon cala figure especially is at least interesting regardless of whether you care about the character itself.
So personally, I'd say that either there's almost nothing in it (they both come with 3 of the relevant figures), OR you give the edge to the new set, because it has the complete collection of relevant figures for the time period, plus it has more additional figures, plus those figures are more interesting.
Ryan thanks for this comparison we’ve all been dying to see this lol, can’t wait to watch this!!
Great video!🔥
The new Ghost is a very good improvement. The only thing I will modify however is to have a 360 degree turret other then that it’s rly good out of box.
I was thinking the same thing. Any suggestions for execution?
Love your scorecard as always
Seeing them side-by-side, you can see the yellowing of the old Ghost - the new one is so gleaming white. Really is starting to put me off buying white-coloured LEGO sets, as they have such a short shelf life before they begin to yellow.
My Saturn V rocket is borderline unrecognisable, and other models like an old A-Wing are really suffering.
Hate to think what things like the gazebo on Rivendell will end up looking like.
Great vid keep up the great work
One of the best things I love about the new Ghost is the entire cockpit area. They made the area more curved, so to me, it looks more aeronautical so it actually looks more like a B-17 bomber cockpit that it was always meant to evoke. I just picked this up for May 4th sale, can't wait to build it and get a stand for it!
Ryan, I’m pretty sure the technical bar underneath is what you’re supposed to move to shoot the spring loaded missiles. If you hold the ghost from back with hands semi-underneath your index fingers are aligned to push the technic beam left or right
Agreed! That larger interior space is the keeper for me.
The feeling of owning both of these sets fully built is wonderful
Trust me as someone who owns the original ghost and has the nostalgia factor for it, the new one looks by far a lot better. Just not enough for me personally to buy it unless its super discounted :)
Been waiting for this comparison for a while
Great video!
So excited to design a moc to open the rest of the interior up and replace the missile play feature with a ramp
Just a little info, I think the windscreen sticker is different because it came on a clear sticker sheet, and the windscreen color is dark blue gray now instead of a lighter brown gray.
The loss of a moving dorsal turret is such a bummer... Any suggestions as to how to improve on that?
Love your video
Wait! I’ve just realized you aren’t doing your scores comparison sheet! Where did that go?!? I actually liked when you scored the differences, I don’t know if I am alone on this but I do miss that!
Great vid I really enjoyed it! But just a heads up with some of your accuracy comments, the two models are lego adaptations of different versions of the ghost. This means the 2014 model IS accurate in some of its details (such as the cockpit dome and top down colors) , it was just referencing the old ghost from the rebels show.
nice video keep it up!
I think the reason the new Hera minifig looks a little strange to me is the lack of the printed hips. I'm honestly glad to see them not there, they usually bothered me
For anyone wondering, I just finished building the new ghost and the building experience was really good. One of the better ones I’ve done recently so I’d recommend it in that category too
Same! I built mine yesterday it looks amazing, and some of the build techniques were really cool.
I have just picked up a second-hand 2014 Ghost for €160 (pretty good deal for my country)! No figures included but I already own most of the Rebels figures. And I am currently building the 2023 Ghost, so I'll have both to display together
I hope the display case changes its contents depending on the review. What a great visual aid
Thanks Ryan, a great comparison. I should be getting mine tomorrow. Now, a question. I agree the blank section on the Phantom II model (2023) is for Chopper’s head, but, where did you get that? There is nothing in the instructions about it. Let me know in the comments.
Surprised you didn't point out that the new one has the wrong colour for the engines.
Also I prefer the older one's "Phantom attachment point" since it doesn't have gaps like the new one does.
Good comparison vid. I'm sold on the new Ghost for sure now....
...even though the cockpit connector clips (if that's what i saw) scare me a little because they seem too fragile.
I prefer something technic related.
Old Ghost should have had Sabine instead of the Storm Trooper
damn i thought the new one was smaller for some reason
Wish I was collecting when the first ghost came out (especially the Phantom II with blind Kanan), but I won't miss out on this one.
What would be the best way to have the window stickers without fingerprints, curled ends and debris.
Maybe you can compare the new ghost with the new gunship? Nice video👍🏻
Are you gonna make a review on your new background setup???
The 2014 one is still a phenomenal set, which might be my nostalgia talking, but it was really good for its time. But I’d be lying if I said the new one wasn’t better, especially considering I do own both.
Nothing like watching a M&R comparison video! I have a lot of nostalgia for the original, but the new one is better, though the mini-figures in the older one are better! Will definitely pick up the new 1, nice video Ryan!
0:12 I swear I saw this set being sold at $60 when I was a kid and telling my parents I wanted it for Christmas
I’ve been waiting for this ever since it was rumored there’s be a new Ghost on April Fool’s day.
I’m nostalgic for the old version, so right now I prefer that, but I should be receiving my new one today from Lego, so I guess I’ll find out soon. Thanks for doing the comparison
Nice video! You inspired me to make my own lego star wars channel to!
And now those are like 500$
I have the 2014 ghost and I REALLY want to get the new one to put them side by side. It looks perfect
This ship is like the millennium falcon of rebels and ahsoka
@askmandr
Does the phantom 1 fit into the new ghost?
Something I just noticed is that the wave of ahsoka sets are the 1st to have all sets in its theme to have manly just ships, right?
What kind of shelves do you have?
interior is a big thing for me so I'm kinda glad I missed the original ghost so I have a reason to get the new one!
I do respect this and I agree that it made sense but I think I’d pick the old one because that was the last gift given to me by my dad before he died so the nostalgia definitely was what got me
One way the old Ghost gets a point for being more accurate to the source material is with the engine light color. The old one has orange light like it should while the new one has blue for some reason. The rest of the actual engine build though is definitely better on the new model.
Both sets are top tier for their time, but I really think that 2023 beats out the old version
I feel like a better comparison would be between the ghost and millennium falcon as the two are large ships that are both still on shelves
Mand, Chopper’s torso is white now. It was dirty in Rebels but they cleaned it in the present. Look the image up on google dude.
fire vid
As someone who has the 2014 ghost should I buy this ghost or should I buy the gunship? (that I don’t have)
Honestly I feel like with most sets you either buy it for the figures or the set itself this was definitely one of those where you buy it for the actual set and the figures being worse is ultimately the trade off for such a good set
Would be cool to see some of the UCS be ranked/ compared.
12:05 ok is it sad that I remember that clip from the 90s cartoon heck i probably remember the show almost beat for beat.
That’s rare that a remake of a set is bigger than the original that’s for sure
So I would love to know the real numbers on just how meny kids play with Lego in comparison to how meny big kids do as I suspect that the number of big “”kids”” playing/building Lego is going to dwarf the number of children that are bothered by Lego.
So I was looking that Asoka’s shuttle and I played the video to show my mum (who is in her 80s) how the wings moved around the ships body (I a ship guy I always have been, be it Lego, toys or models I’ve always loved my spaceships with the starfruy from B5 been one of my faves so now I’m older that hasn’t changed and Lego dose some of the best ships around) she has no idea about sci-fi so it is easier to show her than try to describe it, well I had to describe it in the end anyway as the kid they had “”playing”” with the ship had no idea, I know he’s just an actor but there was no life or joy in him and he didn’t know how any of it worked, when the wings rotated he looked like he pooped himself as I think he thought he’d broken it but as nothing was said he just carried on holding it stiffly making sure the wings didn’t move again (you could also tell he was told to make sure the Unpatterned underside wasn’t shown to the camera) but this kid had no idea how to play with a toy which surprised me more than I would have suspected.
A UCS Ghost w/ Phantom would be awesome! 🎉
Absolutely love both versions, but there's no competition, the new version is 100× better. Will definitely not be missing out on this one!
Prices in Singapore will definitely be more than US prices but I just made an order from my Singapore amazon store (flying in from Japan + free shipping), that's quite near equivalent to US prices. I think its definitely worth the value
Maybe its also interesting to see a comparison between these models VS the one from Republic bricks
I hope one day lego makes a ucs ghost thats minecraft scale that has the bed rooms and all that it would be epic but yet i doubt they'd ever do that
Compare all battle packs
The 2023 ghost is great, but it gives me playset venator vibes
Cool
Could you please review 8096 Emperor Palpatine's Shuttle?
Price per piece is janky as you say, you really should do price per weight! How much plastic are we getting?
Sup M&R how you doing
I went to a LEGO convention last year about 2 months before LEGO announced the 2023 Ghost and the vendors at the convention were asking $999.99 for the 2014 Ghost. 😮💨
love 2014's selection of mini-figs and dont really mind the fact that the phantom was sold seprate..... UN-FORTUNETLY it gave lego more movivation to put more effort into it unlike the 2023 version where you do get both BUT the P2 is worse bec of it.....
also..... the 2 OTHER mini-fig in the 2023 ver are a waste...... could have given us an updated zeb or someone else idk
I don't know. I just really love the old one like I't just nostalgia, and for 2015 or 2014, it had really good features
75348 Fang Fighter Vs. TIE Interceptor Vs. 75364 E-Wing Vs. Shin Hati Starfighter
I only watched the show last year and really enjoyed it. I love the Ghost as a ship, and after 4 seasons it felt like home.
I looked up the old set out of curiosity and felt a little disappointed. It didnt look quite right somehow (reasons you explain in the video). That and reviews were kinda meh and it was retired so...figured I'd never have one.
I've got such a mighty need not to miss the new one. It looks so much better. Just wish the minifigs were better
Like so many other Star Wars misses, the OG Ghost came out around the time Rebels premiered so a few things were wrong about it because Lego was working from concept art rather than seeing it in action.
I think we'll know the characters better once the show has fully released. We don't even know two of them yet, after all. Jacen... could... at some point in the show, have brown hair. While I doubt it, it is still possible. Also, Chopper DOES have the mismatched legs and torso in both Rebels and Ahsoka, the problem is that, in the LEGO version, it is just a bit more noticeable.
@@justinbombach9873 we actually got to meet all the characters in the Ghost set in Ep 3 of Ahsoka last week. Beyta and Hawkins were with Hera during the meeting on Home One, and Jacen was with Chopper directly after the meeting. Jacen basically has black hair with a slight green tint to it, and Lego doesn't have any dark green hair pieces to match the character, so unless they recolored a part the black is best they could do. I even thought it was black in the episode until I saw a character poster afterwards I could look closer at him.
@@Gzilla313 I'll have to rewatch the episode, then. I didn't notice Beyta or Hawkins.
Looks like you actually need two of them.
Still, when are they going to bring out the UCP version?
Hopefully with both shuttle versions.
As for minifig line-up, purple guy, jedi, captain, droid, kid and the two guys at the end.
As for that stormtrooper, are we looking at a clone trooper?
As in one of those rebelling clone troopers?
If so, add him as well.
Because then you have eight minifigs, for the crew.
If they would have just included the of characters it would have been one of the best sets of all time, Hera, Ezra, chopper, kanan, zeb, Sabine, what a step up that would be from these figs
AHHH! Sorry. I saw two ghosts 😅
Do realize 2914 based on the one from the animated series where the new one is based on the live action series
I have wanted a lego Goust for Nine years but sadly because of the price I have never been able to get it but now they have brought out a new version that it much better I will have to get it
Comparison topics: original Phantom 2 to new Phantom 2; all AT-STs, all Luke’s landspeeders, all Sandcrawlers
I think they are both pretty cool