DJI Digital FPV Goggles V1 vs V2 Antenna Upgrades - What You Need To Know
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I'm not currently interested in getting DJI goggles and watched this because it popped up with the notifications. I was thoroughly entertained by this video, it was quite interesting and very informative, you did an excellent job of making the antenna and functionality differences very clear. Thank you.
As always... clear, concise and packed full pf useful information
Thank you so much. New DJI FPV drone is finally here in my hands. I’m always looking to upgrade the antennas but for now. I’m going to wait for V2 patches/omnis. You just saved me from making a bad purchase.
Great info, very thorough 👍👍👍
Vision 1 vs Vision 2 :D cheers mate, great review.
U helped me lot lately .. subscribed.
Excellent presentation. Thank You! From Frisco, TX
A small correction to the table: the v2 goggle does not do 810p orn144 Hz with the air unit or vista, only with the new Flash drone.
This comes form part of the mess of the launch. The original media page for the V2 on DJI stated that the Live stream was now going to be 810P and it showed this as being the case for the Air units as well FPV. However now that’s all gone and is not shown anywhere.
I do believe also it’s not going to happen in the future however I left it there as that’s what they said originally. Even the current Dji Store spec says 810P for live view but does not make it clear what they mean.
Frankly the whole launch was a mess and listening to your comments you got the same thing as I did with basically hay you can talk about this tomorrow then is was all don’t talk about it.
In the end I choose to leave it in as they appear to say is was going to happen but I will add a sticky post to explain better as that’s warranted.
Appreciate the feedback.
@@MadRC You guys are our references for infos on fpv subjects. Might aswell keep it down to the TL;DR so the guys/gals that listen at only your video get the best idea of products.
Appreciate all your work so much, thats why I bother commenting constructive criticism.
also, the usb out is just for the dji fpv drone. So... v1>v2?
"Flash" ;)
i know Im randomly asking but does anyone know a tool to log back into an instagram account?
I somehow lost the password. I would appreciate any tips you can offer me!
Very nice information. I am hoping to get a V1 for cheaper if people upgrade to the V2, that piece of info makes it even better hahahah
Good content, thanks Ian
Super useful info, thanx for sharing!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for sharing mate
Thanks for the update.
Disappointing that Smart controller still needed by V1 for video out.
Nice info mad
very nice work. thx a lot.
Thank you RF God!
Thanks mate. Funny thing is I was going to ask you this very thing! I bought the V2 (I already have the V1) and thought to fit the Crystal patch antennas (I already have these on my V1). Don't know now if thats such a good plan! Take care.
How can I show my face at the field with only old V1 goggles? OMG... if I don't have the latest and greatest I will be so embarrassed!
But on a brighter note... I'm going to try a home-built helical on the bottom right antenna port of my DJIs and see how much improvement I get. Stay tuned for that.
Just put a "V2" sticker on them. :-)
@@twinturbostang Exactly E-Bay has them. :)
I have both V1 and V2.and I prefer my V1'S over the V2 as I feel they perform better at handling RX signal. Like you I run a 3 turn or 7turn heli on bottom right and I've gotten insane range. Also I will use my Iflight Crystal patches both connected to bottom ports on the V1'S and get decent results. Now my v2's I haven't yet found a good solution. I've tried multiple antenna placements on the V2'S and I haven't gotten very much if any difference than stock, actually they seem to perform worse when I'm NOT using the OEM antennas on the V2'S. I just let others that want to watch me fly wear the V2 set because imo The V1's out perform the V2'S when using with AirUnits or Vistas.
I would have thought Bruce to be clever enough to build his own HD goggled lol
Nice!!
Can we use the goggle in the simulators?
Excellent video. For those of us who are only interested in using the air units on 5.8G. Will the True rc X-Air 5.8G MkII antennas that plug into both ports on each side, still work well on the V2 goggles? As I have just recieved V2 goggles ( retailer being less than honest ) instead of the V1's they had listed. I bought the two X-Air antennas for the V1's and now have a potential issue. Also has the new firmware been released for the V2's as I don't want to brick my expensive new toy! go DJI.. Thanks for your input.
On an analog setup one would typically go for a directional and omni antenna combo on the rx only mounts. Same for DJI goggles v2? And then for tx mounts also directional and one omni I guess?
please update the topic what settings will be the best at a distance, and what settings will be the best for rooms, it is about signal penetration
could you answer how right to use patch antennas for goggles v2? how to position it correctly
Would you recommend a patch and 2 Omni for 5.8 ghz or just stick with the version 1 stock antennas?
Also if you recommend the patch in the Omni what’s your recommendation ?
The antenna configuration details were very useful.
New to DJI, having just received my v2 order today (and was wondering if/what patch to get. Will hold off for now.)
Except that now its patches on the bottom omni on top. His info seems to be debunked unless @Mad's Tech going to pull off a test like this?
czcams.com/video/Cj3dHH92Yio/video.html&t
If I have V2s and 2 x-air patches what would an idea setup be? I currently have one on each side (uses all 4 ports). But am trying to wrap my head around what is optimal. I know I should consider buying some omnis for variety of antenna. Would there be any benefit to running them diagonally so that one patch covers both RX and one patch covers both TX? If I am understanding correctly as I have it setup currently each patch covers a rx and a tx. Does it even make a difference if I move these around considering the antennas I am using are identical?
I have dji goggles v2 and fly dji fpv and also other fpv like iflight with caddx vista. Should I buy iflight pacht antenna for using with iflight fpv to get better video signal and then swicht antennas for dji fpv? Thanks in advance
How I see the v1 has better reciever system for long range with air units? Would be not be better to púť the patches on both rx on v2 to get better range?
So for longrange with v1 goggles, the patch antennas both best on top right? Because the patch can get re transmition if they have low or bad interference.. why ppl still said patch best on bottom? For freestyle yes patch on bottom and omnies on top.
Are you saying the v2 will have a better or worse signal?
If I have the V2 goggles and I was looking to get better antenna reception should I use the V2 antennas or the V1 antennas ?
I only use 5.8 GHz I fly freestyle. GepRC Mark 4 HD Vista nebula pro.
So, in case we use elrs we wouldn't mind about antenna even with the new Air unit 03? We can use direct atch antenna 5ghz ?! In this case it doesn't use 2.4ghz anyway right?
What are the physical differences between the 2? I want the v2 but I can get hold of any new in the uk and want to buy used but don’t want to get conned?
Do these patch antennas work on 2.4/have a 2.4ghz option for purchase yet?
So with the V2 goggles, if I'm using say crossfire for my control link, then does that mean you effectively only have the two RX antenae working and the other two are not used?
hi , quick question , for max range on dji air unit v1 with googles v1 , do you think 25mb/s and low latency got more range than 50mb/s low latency ?
Hi, if i only have vistas, is the v1 better than the v2? Im planning to get dji goggles
Thanks for all the great in depth videos! IOrdered mine two days back-Love my first edition, but have issues linking my Dji controller to Caddx Air lite unit with many boards. Any thoughts?
LOL! 😂 Like anyone would notice the difference!
Is there a way to confirm the output wattage of an air unit or a Vista unit? I mean if it says 1200 mw on my OSD does that guarantee that's what it is? Sometimes I feel like 1200 mw is not much better than the 25 milliwatts and I'd like to confirm that my hack is working. Please help me
I'm new to hd, is there anyway I can connect my goggles (dji v1) to a monitor or tv
Hi Ian, question to V2 goggles: is the new antenna config if we use the V2 goggles in V1 mode? Or does this maybe only apply to V2 mode with Occusync3 mode?
That's all so complex - makes testing antennas hard.
maybe you've seen my V1 tests - there I found that the bottom left port is the most impactful (the RX only) for good range. I understood that TX (for control commands) doesnt need to be a patch since only a few bits of control info have to be sent...
If this is correct I should see the best range with 5.8 directional antennas on the RX only ports (bottom left, top right) and the other 2 can be omnis. Or (my fav): using 4 directional 3turn helicals :)
Will do some testing with V1 vs V2(in V1 mode) regards to static testsetup video range. curious what I'll find ;)
greets, Mario
@RCSchim, one quick way to determine this would be to grounded-faraday cage each antenna one after the other and range test. This will allow to determine which antenna really does what and which config is the best.
The patches on the RX ports seems to be the best overall. As you say the onmi will be fine for the Tx for the most part as that’s got the power behind it. Having as much gain as you can on receive side seems to always be the best outcome.
@@MadRC doesn't that also mean that facing the right direction is way more important now?
Is that mean , If I buy crystal HD path and I going to fly with my dji fpv drone , that antennas will not work ?
How do you get it to display on a smart phone?
What is being transmitted by the goggles to a Vista?
For clarity, I am planning to purchase v2 for use only of the FPV system. I should be good to purchase the iFlight patch antenna, correct?
100% no issues.
Hey mate,
Could you add the v1 & v2 model numbers?
I don't know which one I own now.
Hello, I’m a little confused. I have a set of the v2 goggles with truerc stubbies and the iflight crystal patch. Can you please tell me the intended patch and Omni locations if I only fly with the air units and vistas. Thank you
Opni on top, patches on bottom with the V2
@@MadRC thought that was best for V1's. Thata been my findings in testing. I also have both sets
Antenna orientation I still get better range with patches on bottom and omni on top on my V2... this makes since since the goggles no longer diversity switch it just uses all the antennas and it will just use the longest range ones it can as long as your facing the quad. If you put the patches on both the TX antennas yes the quad gets your signal but you don't get the video feed as good, or you could just put patches on all of them.
remember everything is subjective compared to your situation , overall for most patches on the bottom behaves best but it wont be for all use cases. having patches on the bottom means you have the best of both worlds, one receive and one transmit, the same then stands for the omni
Hi Ian, I think I’ve asked this before on steam and you said it would be interesting to test. I’ve just got my iflight crystal HD patch and fitted to my V2. I’ll be flying the DJI Avata mainly however also have the Nazgul Evoque and Cinelog25 that I will fly too. How will this patch work with the Avata? I don’t fancy switching the faceplate everytime I want to fly.
I have the iflight patch and 2 stubbies they supply. But heard about they’re not 2.4? Does this mean I can’t use these at all with the Avata and controller 2 / motion controller? Or do I use the two patch but put 2 of the stock DJI antenna on the top for example instead of stubbies to resolve? Or so I literally have to switch faceplates?
I know I can’t be the only one thinking this so if you know the answer brill. Unless of course it’s a good video idea for you too? Either way would love your help thanks.
any update? im in the same boat brother
@@chrisnrs354 I think using the crystal patch with the Avata you’ll get worse range but don’t know how much. I’d love to know. I’ve just been unscrewing the antenna but leaving the patch actually on the goggles and screwing on the old ones but defeats the object. I guess it’s just trying but I’ve only used once as not been out with my drone yet
Are there any advantages using all stubbys to all connectors?
Your better with two patches and two omni overall.
What is best placement for iflight patch attennas and the stubbys? Patch on top and stubbys on the bottom best combination?
Top left and bottom right on The v2 from the front.
@@MadRC thanks that's great and then opposite corners for the stubbys?
@@MadRC PATCHES on top left and bottom right, right? :)
So at this point is there any benefit of you're using Caddx Vista units to buying the V2 instead of buying a good deal on a solid, used V1?
Solid V1
Hi, nice video but if you should specify if you refer to left and right looking at the video or at the real left and right of the goggles.
As you did is confusing because you are speaking as if you were in a mirror switching left with right but the image showed has opposite written words.
Check it.... so which are exactly the antennaes rx and tx? The ones showed or the ones you speak of.
There's a lot of confusion out there about this DJI antennas.
Do the images not make it clear ?
@@MadRC yes the images are clear, but for example at the end when you speak summarising without the images one might fall in confusion... by myself I think about left and right wearing the goggles and not looking at them.
So you confirm that the images are the correct reference?
You might add a notice to let the video become perfect.
I've always had my patches on the bottom 2... so that means either: patches on rx/tx & rx or omnis on rx/tx & rx/tx???
Same, Joshua Bardwell tested it and it is better.
@@HirschJunge I do as well run patches on bottom two ports on my V1'S. On my V2'S I haven't found any good antenna placement and just kept the OEM' antennas on the V2
Are we risking any damage to our V2 goggles by using 5.8 only antennas? Or is it OK? I've been coming across mixed messages. Thanks
No chance of damage if your staying in FPV Mode and 5ghz. If you were to go to 2.4ghz then SWR would be crazy however again o don’t think there is much chance of damage. DJI protect these things very well.
Very informative, thanks.
I would to ask if the V2 maintain the fixed tx-rx (not diversity) behavior also when rebooted in air-unit-mode (not DRONE mode).
Do you suggest to use V1 antennas on V2 goggles when fly in air-unit mode ?
Many thanks.
NO! Only use OEM antennas on V2'S. I've been testing this for months now. I have both V1 and V2 goggles and prefer the V1's. V2 was designed around DJI's fpv drone and the AirUnits was an afterthought really. V2'S work GREAT with the Dji FPV drone though because hell that's what the V2 was really designed for.
V1'S actually have switching which imo is best for AirUnits and Vistas
@@ChristopherF_1971
Thanks for answer.
I’ve thinked to use the V1 antennas on V2 because when used in air-unit-mode seems goggles use only 5.8 bands, so why don’t use 5.8Ghz antennas ?
@@ferdinandoantinoro you would think that's way it works. I had poor performance when using anything but stock V2 antennas on my V2 goggles so I just left them after trying all different options of antennas on the V2'S by using different antenna ports swooping top left to bottom right and so on but never had good results.
@@ChristopherF_1971 hi there, you're probably wrong how to handle and use the 5.8ghz antenna to V2 googles im using air unit and vista, and running well 6.5km aways without any issue ^€^ better learn more. Thanks.
@@erlandfpv I run iflight Crystal on my V2 set now on bottom ports and seems to help a little but very directional
Thanks for the review, but I don't understand how they managed with their own antennas. If your assumption is correct, how can the antennas can be tuned for 5.8 and 2.4 at the same time?
it will be a dual tuned element but will be interesting to see
@@MadRC having a linear antenna tuned for 2.4 and 5.8 you'll loose nearly 3dbi. So it will work but I hope that dji addresses this degradation with something. Otherwise the reception will be worst than the V1 goggles.
@@phocusrs Maybe we can just use v1 tuned antennas and it just wont work in 2.4ghz mode?
Hi, if i only fly vistas should i get the v1 or v2 since v1s are true 5.8s?
It’s a choice of either. If you can get cheaper V1 go for it.
how do you change between setup 1 and setup 2 for the version 1 FPV goggles?
You can’t. It’s done automatically based on signal.
@@MadRC cool. I didn't know. Thanks!
What about audience mode? Can I use a V1 in audience mode with a V2 as pilot goggles?
Or the other way around?
Yep absolutely.
Interesting, some of the best information I’ve seen in these goggles. I have the iflight crystal patch on the V1 goggles both connected to the bottom so I have a patch on the RX only and when I tested using a single patch antenna that’s where it seemed to give me the most range.
I haven’t been able to find clear info on how the receivers in the goggles are working. So you are saying the V1 goggles are always using antennas 2 and 3 and then choose a third antenna switching between 0 amd 1? So confusing but they work great.
running the same config. performs great but I have not pushed the range yet.
I've made 6 Miles in open countryside with single triple feed antenna 9dbi on bottom right port. I also run my Iflight Crystal patches on both bottom ports and get decent results.
My V2 though, I've found adding anything but what they came with makes reception worse. So I just keep OEM antennas on my V2 for spectators to watch my flights. I actually prefer the V1 goggles if you are not buying the DJI Fpv drone you are better off with the V1'S
Ian i'm running my patches on the bottom and getting better results that way?
me too, on v1 goggles. getting upto 1.5km even on 25mw , if it works dont fix it lol
I'm getting poor reception with my crystalhd patches on the bottom stubbies on top....tried 700/1000/1200mw.....haven't tried them on top yet but I will.
Me too but I haven’t actually tried running both the crystal patches on top, I tested a single patch in different locations and it seemed to work best on the RX only spot so I put the crystals on the bottom when I got them.
@@MUNKYFPV most that I have seen are mounted on the bottom.
@@outlawfpv3792 Is that the same with the V2
Would the iflight crystal attennas be good to use on V2 version?
That's what I'm curious since I just got the v2 with crystals and don't know where to connect them
@@josefdahari how are your iflight crystal attennas working on your V2?
@@sheapyfpv8224 so far so good I haven't gotten any issues so far at all. Not even slight pixelation yet either. But I'm waiting for more reviews on the antenna placements to know if they are fine on top or if I should put them on bottom. I'll try to run all Stubbies and see
Does the 1200mw hack still work on the v2?
Yes
if i. usee the iflight crystall hd is it still useable for the dji drone?
Yes and no , if you force the drone to single band 5ghz yes otherwise no.
@@MadRC one more question, i mostly fly for long range, is it still have a good range for the the dji fpv drone if i only use single band 5.8 ghz ? or maybe i just need to wait a new dji antenna patch release? thanks for answering my question, youre video very helpfull
So much for video out if you are running the air unit or vista; it doesn't work. Only works with the DJI FPV drone!
Where do i put my best Antenna? On the RX Ports?
The overall consensus is yes on the RX ports but it’s going to depend on your flight style and location.
Will new dji FPV drone be compatible with V1 goggles?
No as it’s dual band.
Will the v2 work with DJI camera drones?
sadly no
@@MadRCThanks. I have a V2 on order and was hoping but not expecting it.
Ok, so when using with the FPV system is there less functionality with the V2 or does diversity just work differently?
Just diferenty, it’s preset combination rather than switching.
@@MadRC in theory the v2 should have a more balanced transmission, right ?
@@MadRC Im still unclear on this. Does the v2 use 4 antennas at once now, or is there still 3 active and its turning any of the 4 on and off?
@@AGodwin its all 4 at once
@@doom3crazy not necessarily
thx for the info ,
i just got the V2 its on a new firmware (V01.00.0604) but has an empty change log
i didn't find any information on how to get video out from the goggles to a smart phone
can you share how to do that , thx
That is a future feature that’s not been released yet. It’s not confirmed when.
The update fixes an issue with some minor adjustment on the display. Nothing major as well.
@@MadRC Any idea if the update prevents the usage of the 1200mW hack?
@@jackrlanois no I believe it still works.
Has anyone come up with a good answer on how to set up V2’s with iflight crystal patch and stubbys?
I’d go standard and see how it behaves.
@@MadRC ... meaning stock antennas ??
Or iflight Crystal patch on bottom stubbys on top ?
Probably bottom.
Direct from DJI.... All four antenna are rx top two are rx and tx on V2 and currently the app to watch using USB-C is not available. They told me I would still need smart controller.
wait what did they say about the antennas?
My NEW V2 goggles keep rebooting!! My V1’s have been solid but as of now I’m not flying my V2’s until I get a fix.
Try downgrading in FPV mode to the list firmware via assistant 2.
@@MadRC I’m a little confused. I’m currently on 0606 firmware for diy drones . I don’t own the Dji fpv drone. So I’m currently on and stay on DIY mode. So what’s downgrading going to do? When I plus the V2 goggles into DJI assistant2 it says current. So may need a little more information than what you mentioned.
Thank you though
I just had another blackout to Dji logo about an hour ago. I’m pretty pissed at this point because these have destroyed 2 $400 DIY quad now.
What the heck is a E-Unit? New Dji FPV arrives tomorrow if my V2s work on some sort of cheap flyer I am interested, is that what a e unit is? Thanks
It's Air Unit (the dji brand camera) it's just his accent
Brilliant, if only you could actually buy them...
So yeah i had the same problem but i downloaded the dji app on my phone and every day i checked 2 times a day and then when they restocked a month later i was ready to buy one but they run out fast
So where do you connect the patch on V2 for 5 gh
Use bottom on both.
Thank you, great video, I was a little confused, in the pictures on your slides you referred to antennas left and right as they were facing us, when you show the actual goggles with you sitting behind, you did the opposite. You Hope that makes sense
Thanks for such a quick reply. Looking at lots of CZcams videos on the DJI googles, you are the only one that explain the change in v1and v2 antenna differences.
Are you saying v2 will have slightly better transmission?
V2 imo doesn't work as well as V1 with AirUnits and Vistas. V2 will work fine with AU and Vista but the V2 was more designed around the new FPV drone and its rx/tx.
@@ChristopherF_1971 that’s all hearsay. And also false. There’s been plenty of videos comparing v2 and v1. When using after market antennas they function the exact same with the exact same range. When using stock antennas the v2 have slightly less performance because they’re dual band antennas(5.8 and 2.4) vs the v1 that was just 5.8. Hope that clears things up for you.
@@doom3crazy I understand your argument but certainly disagree. I own both V1 and V2 goggles and see first hand the V1'S perform better. Especially with patch antennas.
Sorry to disagree..
@@ChristopherF_1971 I also own both the v1 and v2. Are you sure your v2's arent broken? How do you have your antennas oriented? The transmission system is slightly different so you have to place your antennas differently but I promise you, they're identical. I've taken them out pretty far with the same antennas and they are exactly the same. The v1 might have "diversity" but the v2 not having diversity wouldnt change the behavior that much. You just instead have 2 antennas constantly receiving and 2 antennas transmitting. I've watched a number of videos and I don't see that theres any real world difference. Do you have a specific example I could try and recreate cause when I fly them side by side(with friends) everyone says the same thing. " I cant tell a difference"
@@doom3crazy just curious, On your V2 goggles where are you installing the patch antennas and where are you installing the omni antennas. Without me saying how I installed mine.
So I'm still confused. On where I should connect my iflight crystals to the top of bottom ports or mixed up. On the v2s
I would try it on the top two and see how performance is. If not good try the bottom left looking at the front. The problem is we don’t know what’s going to be better at this stage due to we don’t know much much the V1 switched between modes. It’s going to be a game of trail and error.
Not compatible with Caddx Vista?
V2 and V1 are compatible with both air units.
I like to know how to connect my Crystal patch antenna on my DJI FPV Goggle V2.
On the V1 the patch antenna is connected to topleft and topright SMA connectors wich are both TX/RX
On the V2 Goggles on the topleft is TX and topright is RX
Where to connect my patchantenna? on the TOP so 1 is for TX and 1 for RX ?
Or crosswise to connect both patch antennas to RX or maybe TX ???
I am not sure where to connect, on this moment i have connect on TOP so 1 antenna for RX and 1 antenna for TX. I have tested it yesterday but i doubt if this is the right configuration.
I hope you can help me with this
TNX
Best Regards,
Marc
On the V2 best is on both bottom ports overall.
@@MadRC Tnx i will try, on another ytvideo a guy had tested it and he was getting the best result with both patch antennas connected to tx, sound a bit strange but i will try both options, tnx for your reply!
czcams.com/video/RpLFvyOKPho/video.html
HEY BUDDY! WHY DONT YOU make an updated video now that the dji fpv drone is out... if someone has both systems the dji fpv drone and the dji unit whats the best middle ground antennas that works with both.. becouse the stock ones kind of suck with the air unit
I just spent two hours researching these goggles (novice to drones). I saw many videos where they talked a lot but said very little. Your video is excellent. Everything I wanted to now in one short video. Thank you very much!!!
Well said. I've watched hours of drone videos now and still don't know all the terms and parts or what they do. I still don't know what all these different numbers and stuff means or nothing but I've listened to so much talking.
It's like all the drone channels are already so deep they just expect everyone to understand their terminology but new guys like me are just confused lol