Duel Analysis #3 - Chivalry 2
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- This one focuses on a player named Mew.
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I will be uploading daily, this is video number 71.
Music: Oblivion OST (it works for these videos im sorry)
13:26 The way the guy just walks by uninterrupted fckn kills me lmao
Could not stop laughing at the dude at 15:35 that just casually strolled through your intense fight with homeboy.😂 Great video man!
This was sick. I’m looking forward to seeing you fighting people who just backup constantly and others that are hyper aggressive like this guy. I can’t wait to see you fight off a short one hander hyper aggressive guy. Those are the types I’m really struggling with right now. I try to counter their movement and stall them with jabs but it’s so hard sometimes. Keep up the good work zig!
13:27 I like how that one random knight just pass by BETWEEN a SWORD FIGHT like it's nothing xD "Oh, excuse me good sirs. Don't mind me. Just passing by."
I don't want to discourage you Ziggy but just some critique here, a lot of the things you're saying in these duel analysises are just narrating what's happening on screen. I think if you were more concise and focused on explaining the hows and whys, rather than the whats and whens, it would be a lot more informative. Just throwing the idea out there as well, a script could help you a lot in narrowing down to the exact points you want to talk about.
Anyway I look forward to seeing future videos 👍
The fourth one is already recorded but I can try to be a bit smarter about it going forward. Your critique is valuable and I can try and make it better after the next one.
Perhaps in the future, consider removing the audio from the slow motion replays? - as it gets a bit irritating to try to hear over the choppy audio. just a friendly suggestion :)
I concur
if you're considering this, to save you a possible headache, there's an option in premiere to "remove audio from scrubbing" it's under preferences somewhere. So you can drag the playhead around without audio. Or mute it I suppose.
For the future. The next analysis is already finished so it'll be after that.
Please find another player or NLE that you can play in slowmo without that sound. But don't mute it. Sound is a huge thing in this game. And losing these cues would be really bad.
Honestly, these analysis videos have been so helpful. Hands downs the best combat guides out there.
I'm glad you think so. Thank you for the kind words.
It really seem top duelist with LS are playing more and more alike. Keep the pressure on, keep the distance close for jab, throw a cancel out here and there, and morph their attacks with drag and crouch. It's very heavy on stamina but usually it works very well. I haven't really figure out what to do, but on the rare occurrence i did beat them it's usually with tons of movement and footwork. Notice as good as Mew is, he still missed quite a bit stab here and there, so if you are at the right position those could be punished. Another thing i noticed is most duelist jab after getting hit almost 90% of the time, it became automatic, so what i do is whenever i land a hit on them, i crouch and lean back to go for a stab, which hits very well and it also discouraging jabbing for rest of the fight.
My footwork is pretty good so hes likely to miss a little bit.
you should fight Shinbop. He's like an upgraded version of what Mew is doing.
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hi sensei fancy seeing you here
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Mew was durags alt haha
@@shinbop6904 lmao
That move at 1:55 is just beautiful, footwork, feints, unpredictability
Bro! This guy did great. Super high level players rely too much on their superior ability to block (hardware and game design included). This guys tactics were awesome! Respect. “Wild” “antics”…he’s doing the right stuff against a parry machine like you. Best fight I’ve seen watching duels. Most of them are just a study in blocking. As a console player, we can’t even feint same attack into same attack (slash to slash for instance) let alone block even half as efficiently as a PC player. We have to be aggressive to win initiative. That’s probably why I appreciate this guys style. If he comes in playing your style of defense first knowing you can easily block 90% of attacks, he’s outmatched. If he can keep you guessing, he has the real initiative. Most of us playing can’t block like that and it isn’t our gameplay that seems to be the biggest factors as to why. He’s also paying you a lot of respect by being so “wild”. Personally, I’m at a spot where I can’t seem to get better on console and much less of it seems to be gameplay. I watch these videos and you can see everything. When I’m attacked, so often it skips from the windup phase to me being damaged without any animations. It’s rough. Very high level PC players seem to have no idea what it’s like for others.
Best fight I’ve seen yet! Well done for both of you. (The first guy)
Actually you can feint the same attack on console! Slash to slash (LT RT LT RT), stab to stab (LT RB LT RB), and overhead to overhead is (LT LB LT LB). Are you on next gen or previous consoles? A friend of mine had trouble inputting these feints running at 30fps and input lag. In my opinion, I do not see many controller disadvantages especially with paddles and high sensitivity. I’m no champion at high level fights (shinbop kicks my ass lol) but it’s rare that I don’t place or win duel servers when I sweat.
Yes bro you’re so right.. I’m a console player myself and I totally agree. There’s just some people that I go up against that are on PC and I just fight for my life 😫😫😭🤣 if you’re on Xbox my GT is Tupac is so bad
@@povertypaintball7202 I started playing on PS4 and now on PS5… I’ve got hundreds of hours in the game. I haven’t been able to feint same to same once. My internet connection is excellent for most uses and my TV does have a gaming engine (2021 model as well).
On PS5, L1 is overhead. So, the overhead feint to overhead would be L1, L1. For example, a overhead to slash would be L1 followed up by R2. That’s easy enough but after playing so many hours and seeking out better competition outside of PC v console duels, I also think that on PC you get about 2x as long to use the feint in your warmup phase. On console (at least PS4,5), you have to switch almost immediately in between attack types to hit the feint window. It’s a very short window. I see PC players do long pauses into feints while moving back and forth with relative ease as done by relatively low rank players all the time (under level 50). I wonder if there is a difference bt Xbox and PS. Are you saying the feint combo on Xbox is 4 button presses? If that’s the case on PS5, wow! A normal feint is two button presses but to stay with the same attack feinting same to same, it’s 4 buttons? Ouch Torn Banner…ouch! I guess I can try the 4 correlating buttons on PlayStation later. Thats not functional though. Good luck doing that reactively.
It did take me a hundred hours to learn the flourish😂😂😂 It’s a ridiculous combo that is hard to keep moving forward with ( but that’s not a combat necessity like feint to feint).
I will also say that it was a significant step up getting to next generation. I could see about 2x frames and the game became a lot more manageable. It seems to me there are significant performance and structural gameplay differences between console and PC that make “competing” on consoles very difficult. I have a relatively good setup on console but there still seems to be a massive gap still.
There are also tons of oddities I never see on anyone’s streams or CZcams videos for Chivalry 2 (all PC players). For instance, it was about a 50/50 proposition that my button press on PS4 to use a bandage would be recognized and about 75% chance on PS5 it seems. I do play enough games to know a bad button press and how often it occurs for me and it isn’t that high in any other game. I never see a high level PC streamer or video creator deal with that. I can go on and on with those little oddities and big oddities.
I think it’s also worth recognizing that the movement on a controller to block by aiming your cursor at the incoming weapon is a really tough system on console. The end result is that it is way harder to hit block windows and especially for multiple attacks one after another. If you increase the sensitivity it’s disorienting approaching getting sick and being completely not functional for blocking or attacking. If the sensitivity is low, it’s much harder to aim at the outer edges or make hard twists and turns. For a PC player, this would be something like playing with a trackpad on a laptop…rough. It’s just very different. I wonder if Torn Banner even really plays on console or on normal setups with solid internet. It doesn’t seem like the game is as polished for those use cases.
Don’t mean to come off as complaining but I just noticed that in the context of Ziggy’s fights with this crazy guy…a lot of console players do better playing that way because the defensive counter mechanic approach that relies on being reactive is not nearly as feasible. The guy might not be crazy or gambling. He just might be limited to an offensive style. Made for a much more interesting duel anyway and caught ziggy off guard. That’s the only way I knock him out in game as well so I feel this guy just coming at him with a wild fury of moves. The counter game is an L for a lot of us. It’s not all bad.
@@povertypaintball7202 Any recommendations on a paddle controller brand? I was looking into those to speed things up. If you’re on the game, My name is Iam_hewhomoops so please hit me up…I’d be appreciative to learn what you can show me. That’s why Im here. It’s a fun game. The more I play though the more I hit a ceiling of performance that points to console limitations, some in the game itself being made for PC and some physical moving on a stock controller. Appreciate the chat.
@@KawabachiFL my tag is Iam_hewhomoops One of the things I like about this game is that you can play with high level players and it isn’t too terrible when there’s group isn’t too big cuz it’s such a large scale game, 64 people is glorious chaos! I’m on PS5, play most nights. I usually switch teams if one is stacked cuz I’m here for the best fight and just smashing noobs is boring. I like to knockout streamers and super high level players. The challenge is the game!
My god that was an intense set of duels. Yet still you analyzed, adapted, and overcame the odds. Damn good job
coming back to these videos, I'm glad they made stab dragging around guards so much more difficult.
I liked it, it's really nice to watch and learn you and opponents with different styles fight.
21:33 I feel like this moment is the essence of the video: how to see, recognize and counter the contortionist act with a well placed jab
I would love to see you use more weapons for the duels. Anyway, this series is a big help. Keep it up.
In future ones, sure. (The fourth one is already recorded)
those were some wild duels, these are great
It’s crazy how complicated some of the things are. It’s hard to even acknowledge that he feinted his slash into a heavy that counters your heavy so you know he can’t cancel the heavy and you counter the heavy… How tf do I get better at reacting and game sense besides playing more?
Edit: and I just feel like I can’t keep up with this on controller but I know that’s an excuse. Only thing holding me back is not being able to change the controls.
You should be able to change controls I agree
It's called swing manipulation BROTHER
THANK YOU BROTHER
I realize now the passive agressiveness of this comment and i was drunk and referencing Hulk Holgan
THANKS, THANK YOU BROTHER, THANKS.
"I've never seen this before in my life" had me in tears.
this guy is gaming omg
ur spoiling us with these vids
Dancing master
That guy might be the only person I’ve seen doing that backwards lean dodge, looks awesome too
very nice video, ziggy!
Thank you.
This videos are fun and educational. I love them.
the nore i watch your videos the more i like you and your fighting style.i agree with you obn this. all that fancy animation cheese only works if you let it psych you out.
He built different
HELL YEAH BROTHER
Any possible way when you do the analyzation to just mute the audio, unless it's needed, the choppiness of it for analyzing I think it's not a necessity, you're vids though you do you
These vids are really helpful. Much appreciated.
if you couldnt counter feint offense in this game would be soooo strong but as it is the win is going to the person who has better spacing and timing, not necessarily the best contortion act
Duels are essentially a stamina attrition fest while waiting for the opponent to make a mistake with their footwork/positions/attacks to land a hit, which I actually like.
Where do I learn to do the things mew are doing? Especially the crazy stuff? I’ve always wanted to be able to have a wide range of move sets just for fun
If you want to do that stuff, just mess around, its nothing specific.
12:50 by the icons on your hud, the two yellow semi circles on the shield, that was a slash counter( yellow circle on top is OH counter, bottom stab)
MEW is a bit of a nightmare matchup for you, he's able to pressure and jab you heavily as he's so much faster than you seeing as you are using the slowest (I think) weapon in the entire game. If you also had longsword I don't think he'd be able to do the same thing.
Halberd is only faster than the maul and highland sword, maybe tied with exec axe or maybe a bit faster.
These duel analysis are cool
Love this series!
What region do you play duels on? Would love to get a chance to get a duel in with ya.
Us central
My guy this kid of videos are amazing!
i love his drip too it like looks like with how he plays
Well it looks like "fights that look like fights" will live one.
love these, keep it up!
I literally just got na naed by this dude. Reminds me of shinbop or durag.
Send him this video thanks.
nice vid zigg as always, been into chiv 2 for like a month now and the noob gap is fucking wild first 2 weeks i got fucking shat on games so unforgiving on controller with your videos ive managed to get to rank 42 and im really getting better ive been maining longsword messer and dane axe i see u always using that halbred range on its wild also loving highland sword 2 always in eu duels fought so many bkm pricks but man they are good mew had some moves but you got there in the end i think you should have equaled the playing field with your long sword bro anyways thanks for the tips and tricks man keep up the videos !!!
Love the series
I missread overheads as slashes like all the time. It bugs me.
nice video 👍
how do you even do attack cancels? my friend somehow figured them out so i know they’re possible on controller but at the same time i can’t even comprehend how they work or what i have to do to do them.
It's Square for ps4-ps5
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no
@@Mumens_faithful yes.
@@HippoDrippo nope.
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@@HippoDrippo no.
6:52 what do you mean by "crouch to make sure I don't lunge"? The standing overhead steps forwards?
All attacks do, yes.
The only thing I learned is that your reflex speed is stupid fast
Not often, but thank you.
Please don’t tell us if you won or lost the fight before we see it. Ok, thanks
Trying to understand anything in english is quite a listening task for me, therefore I turn volume up, but these sounds from slowmode rewatching rape ears :(
Great video, like it anyway
Shinnop and mew I straight up don't duel anymore cause they basically figured out how to break the game with attack cancels
is this androothless's alt (mew)?
Beats me
Would be cool if you did this break down for team fights or 1vX
Can we have a duel and get one of these break downs again? I want to build more to my fights after 1k hours
Not much chance of that anymore.
🗡️ let's duel then 🤓
why do people crouch when fighting? im not sure what it does
It stops you from lunging forward.
I love u
omg hi!!!!
Thats Mikah from RDR2 LOL
So we are back to the spastic animation abuse being a part of the Chiv/Mord meta? No thanks.
Theres a few people, yes.
Mew is playing OCE tech. He hasn't mastered it yet. Journeyman at best.
maybe now people can stop talking behind your back about being 'washed'. The same people that can't kill mew once with top tier weapons lmao. you're an incredibly smart duelist, fundamentals still trump overly technical drags and attack cancelling.
Are people saying that? Damn.
@@Ziggylata yeah. it's not just about you, it's about streamers in general
Ziggys finally fucking lost it. All he can do anymore is duel analysis.
Nah. A video you might have been waiting for is tomorrow.