Baby Doll (1956) - Getting familiar
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- Sensual, seductive scenes with my dream girl, Carroll Baker as Baby Doll. Mm! Her sultry innocence just melts me.
Archie Lee Meighan, middle-aged cotton gin owner, can hardly wait for the 20th birthday of his childish bride Baby Doll, when he'll be allowed to consummate the marriage...he thinks. But rival owner Silva Vaccaro suspects Archie of burning his gin down, and takes an erotic form of Sicilian vengeance. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Love the faint birds, the creak of the swing, the breathless cotton, the heat of air in the quiet. Man, oh, man, did Tennessee Williams and Kazan deal aces.
Absolutely one of the most sensuous, seductive closeup scenes in movie history. They just don't understand that kind of subtle way of expressing sexual tension in a movie these days much less in one scene.
subtle? his hand is on her throat
Alonzo B--Exactly where I wish my hands were on you right now. Only I wouldn't be so gentle.
European cinema understands this, just not puritanical yet hypocritical Hollywood
@@KermitHitler Exactly. But, then, they did not have the inimitable Eli Wallach, either. What he, Baker and Kazan twist out -- of that deeply puritanical streak of grossly stifling U.S. sexual repression and therefore distorted sublimation and consequent perversion -- is what is so subversive in this one incredible scene.
@@castinmeadows6956 beautifully put, and very true !
Carroll's expressions are amazing. Brilliant.
Wallach and Baker are so natural in this scene. A tribute to the director.
Eli died the other day. He was 98. I think that his long life says something about his enormous talent.
It certainly does he was top notch!
This scene is a masterpiece ... and very disturbing.
I wish Eli Wallach had played MANY more roles like this, he was CAPTIVATING in this movie ♥️ I come back and watch this ALL THE TIME
She is perfect. Fascinating character who appears naive but shrewd. This was such a scandal, so great that there’s no nudity.
I agree with almost everything you said ;)
This scene, this entire movie, prove that nudity and explicit sex are not necessary to portray desire or sexual tension. I'm not a prude by any stretch of the imagination, but I find scenes like this one much more powerful than the recent trend of pointless but quite explicit sex scenes in modern movies and shows. Baby Doll is sexy because of excellent acting, brilliant direction, and a fantastic script. The sexual tension is palpable. Most modern films have lots of nudity and graphic sex, but little or no sexual tension.
Jeez, this scene makes ME feel all tingly and weak! Wallach sure knew how seduction is done!
One can't always tell whats in a package.
Ikr? I wish he would have been given the opportunity to play more roles like this. It's a shame that back then actors didn't get a say in what movies they could or couldn't do or what parts they could or couldn't play in them. This was mainly due to actors getting typecast. It still happens to actors today, but not as often as it did back in the 30's, 40's and 50's.
Eli played this part , this scene SUPERBLY.
He looks so dashing with that mustache...and I'm not crazy about mustaches.
"I don't want to be deprived of the pleasure of your company."
Wow. Eli....Smooth son of a gun!
I will miss you.
I did not realize how much swag Eli Wallach had!
I read that Eli Wallach was a college graduate and joined the Navy--he was very smart and intelligent. That was a perfect role for him.
One of if not the best scene in that movie!
In her interview with Foster Hirsch, Carol Baker said the weather was freezing cold when they were shooting even though it was supposed to be set in the warm months. She said, "On the swing scene, Eli always tells the story-he says, “They think my hand slipped down Carroll’s leg, and it didn’t at all. I was feeling for the heater on the ground!” She also admitted that she actually did have a crush on Eli Wallach.
That's what I read also, that she had a crush on him. If I do say so myself, that's not impossible to imagine! 😘
They sure did a really good job acting like it was a warm late-summer/early-fall day in this scene. I can't imagine how hard it must have been for Carol and Eli to stay composed in this scene from the cold. If I were trying to perform a scene like this on a freezing day I don't think I'd be able to keep my body from shivering, LOL!
This movie is not set "in the summer months". It's set in November. Even the cast seem at times confused regarding thus point. In an early scene, Archie Lee emphasizes that Baby Doll's birthday is tomorrow "the 6th day of November".
@@salmineo22 If that's the case, then yes I totally agree, the cast were confused...as well as the costume dept. So confused in fact that they dressed her in a summer dress for a scene that you say was set in November. One would think that a scene 'set in November' would at least provide that her character in the scene would be wearing long sleeves or that both she and Eli's character might even be wearing jackets or coats while sitting 'outside' in the November weather. But then again, maybe it was a mild November day right? I guess we can just guess just exactly how cool or cold or warm it was supposed to be on that November day regardless of the actual temperature during filming.
@@salmineo22 And to make it even more confusing, when Eli's character, Vacarro, brings trucks of cotton over to Archie the day after Archie burns down Vacarro's gin. And he offers to pay Archie to gin the cotton for him, so, Archie tells Baby Doll to spend that day with Vacarro while Archie goes to supervise the work. Interestingly, cotton blooms from late June and early July to mid August. Harvested in August through October.
Incidentally I found this bit of info harvesting cotton - "Cotton harvesting starts in July in the southern states and may extend into November in the north."
So, harvesting and ginning the cotton in Mississippi during the month of November is really cutting it close. But hey, it's a fictional story, right. Artistic license.
You know that moment when you're watching a movie and one of the characters immediately reminds you of yourself? That's how I feel about Caroll Baker's performance as Baby Doll. Her personality and mannerisms are almost identical to my own. The only difference between us is that I've never been in the same situation Baby Doll finds herself in here in the film. Even so, I feel like I'm seeing parts of myself in Baby Doll.
It is called femininity (… of course if you were born a woman)
Interesting fact. Carroll in an interview said it was freezing cold during the shooting of this scene, but that she was also getting a little turned on by Eli.
Elia Kazan had a keen eye in spotting talent.
Watching this little colt of a woman struggle to keep her dignity while being manipulated by human wolves and snakes while tottering in her heels through the dirt of Mississippi is a revelation of what women go through daily. This world is gone of course but I miss the elegance she brought to her struggle and loved the contrasts and humor thst underscore this beautiful, tragic film. The ending satisfies, she GOT AWAY!!! Kisses to Carroll.
This is the hottest scene I've ever seen in a movie.
um... wow
Alonzo B--Yeah, wow. I mean, WOW!!!!! Alonzo B, don't try to act like you know more about what a woman wants or feels about anything more than a woman does, okay? Only speak for yourself. If women who watch this clip think it's sexy and smokin' hot, what's it to you?
as a woman I agree, this is one of those films that showed me so much intimacy while the characters were in such a neutral place, this movie is just one of the reasons I became a writer
This is absolutely one of my favorite movies in the world, and has been for a good twenty years. The acting and cinematography... and the script... and the settings -- are perfect.
I'm a woman, and yes I think it's hot. Eli Wallach (who never did anything for me in other roles) is smokin' hot in this. Maybe some men are uncomfortable when the seduction is reversed fro m the usual slop of the usual film?
+Shenna WATCHING a woman get aroused is always sexy.... and she IS a woman, so I don't see anything creepy about it. (Except the man's motives are deceitful rather than loving.)
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Agreed to the nth degree. And exactly on point about Wallach. As with you, for those who've previously seen him in countless other films, how he astonishes here. One keeps thinking, this can't be Eli Wallach, this can't be. But, my gawd, it is. As he (and Baker and the entire feel, tone, writing of the scene) draw the viewer in, we're simultaneously blown away (as critically discerning film viewers) AND feel ourselves in the seduction, be we women or men. We're caught, from first second to last. Every nuance. Every detail. A slow, sliding ember of carnal fire -- something few movies (or actors) so intelligently, deliciously, masterfully achieve.
@@electrictroy2010 The sexual rise is true. And primal. And, in an of itself, natural. But, as you make the distinction well, the man's motives and deceit are corrupt and anything but pure (something, in its loveliest of realities, is not inseparable at all from sexual desire). And therein the near-unbearable, escalating sexual tension. Apart from his motives and her confusion, it's foreplay to the nines.
Given Hollywood censorship at the time, what a daring coup. This especially with Wallach in the part (versus, say, Brando, which would've yielded from the scene a completely different and misleading experience). The scene is anything but camp or crudely over-heated. It isn't base or superficial in that particularly and obvious way. As it is, it instead honestly and bravely underscores the truly base designs of Wallach's character; and how chillingly predatory, not just titillating, those designs are. Baker's character is like a new fawn who doesn't know she's in heat yet inescapably feels it. Those two locations, on the spectrum of desire and experience, are amped up to an incendiary, slooooow burn.
It's a gradual advance which women are physiologically and, in great part, socially designed to respond to (but certainly not an exclusive design). And a pursuit which (capable and knowing) men are also biologically and, in great part, socially designed to seek. And where, In both the woman and the man, that gradual build-up is as satisfying as the eventual catch. If not, greater.
And, because Kazan, the actor's director, is at the helm of this film, we know that the female-male dynamics at play will be what other (of course, male) directors can't even marginally, convincingly touch or even credibly, maturely imagine (then or now), nor hardly well execute.
Please forgive my indulgence here. This scene, alone, packs such incredible skill and artistry, that it is indeed irresistible for a film buff to go on about it. Haha
You could also say your astute comment is also at blame for it. ;)
completely wicked. this entire movie is like... the disney-fied eloquence of delectable mid-century smut.
I turned on TCM and this scene was on and I was hooked!
Never knew Eli could do this kind of roll
Such a good film. Nothing else like it.
That devilish seduction. Eli Wallach!! Eli Wallach!! Damn!
This is a great movie if you have not seen it order the dvd I’m not sure if a streaming service has it or not but it is really good!
gives me goosebumps!
"Oh Mr. VeCarol, you certainly are getting familiar."
He's so hot. He's on par with Dean. He's overlooked. This movie is has b.d.e. ♡ all performances are epic and the chops are so on point it's in my top ten easily. Poetry in celluloid medium that taps into a dimension of erotic possibilities as currency is and emotional torment to seduction and confusion. The unspoken masterpiece. You have to admit that he's got b.d.e. ×11.
@Sinjin Smyth um no I just like art. Did you take a survey? I think one could argue many different perspectives. Ever watch her in Bad ? You should. I think you might be aroused by her in that film. She plays a hard boiled bitch.
"YOU BETTER GET THAT FURNITURE BACK OR THE DEAL IS OFF"!!!!
I found this by mistake. Wow so many good movies are lost but fortunately for me I found this one a diamond in a haystack ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Eli Wallach is freaking good.
"You make me feel kinda hysterical Mr. Vacero" God, she is beeautifulll.
OMG I'M IN LOVE WITH CARROLL BAKER!!!
He made excellent spaghetti westerns, unknown in the U.S.
In truth she was so attracted to him, as interviewed
Krevinger I agree with you completely... The most sexiest scene I have ever seen
it is very subtle and smooth and just leaves you floating.
wow
I just now noticed that Wallach is putting on a Southern accent here. It wasn't noticeable the first few time I watched this. Being from the South myself, I can spot a fake Southern accent a mile off. I tire of hearing the obvious fakes. The best ones that are done by non-Southerners are those that are not very noticeable to Southern ears, hearing it every day all my life. Hard to detect he was actually born and raised in Brooklyn! Don't know about Carroll Baker's; hers is a tad fakey-sounding to my ears. Just my opinion, of course. It's the mark of a really good actor who can do an accent he/she wasn't raised with, and do it that skillfully. I'm impressed! Marilyn Monroe did a good one in Bus Stop as well.
I'm not a southern man myself, although I do like to think I have a southern accent. But that's not what I'm trying to say. What I am trying to say is that when I first watched Wallach as Calvera in The Magnificent Seven, I thought for a second that he was a Mexican because of his skin tone. He even pulled off the Mexican accent beautifully. But when I found out that he was Jewish and from New York, I was blown away. Fine acting from a legendary actor
Dixie Burge he was from New York. Of course it was a fake Southern accent.
loveharrydaily--Uhhh...yeah, I know that it's fake. You're missing the point. I said it takes a really good actor to put on a good Southern accent when he/she is not Southern, and his is nearly undetectable. Very skillfully done.
Dixie Burge I know what you were saying sis.
Dixie Burge x
Great acting...Eli
I had to do a slight variation of this for my acting class last month. I was the girl, and it was creepy as hell lol.
Not bad for being his first movie apperance
Yes, at the tender age of 40! He did mostly stage work on Broadway before this movie, having won a Tony Award in 1951 as best featured actor in the original cast of Tennessee Williams' "The Rose Tattoo". God, I love talking about Wallach and watching him! What a pleasure! ☺️
masterpiece
@Shamborn Thankfully, you stayed just under your Carroll Baker 'melting' point, enough to upload clips of this film. And for which I thank you. ;)
Wowza that was quite the scene.
I did see a lot of things but this is certainly the sexiest scene I have ever seen in my life. It overwhelms me.
Suellyn Lyon, or Sue Lyon, died today.
She was so young, yet capable of playing both to her audience, and playing her age at her age.
Watch : This Film...and remember how smart she was !!
the girl in the clip isn’t Sue Lyon, it’s Carroll Baker
Many years back first time seeing g this movie me n my sister loved it still do
eli walach is great actor
Oh, my. Just read this, about our ol' boy Eli Wallach, on Wikipedia:
"Wallach's film debut was in Elia Kazan's controversial 1956 Baby Doll, for which he won the British Academy Film Awards (BAFTA) as 'Most Promising Newcomer.[23] Baby Doll was controversial because of its underlying sexual theme. Director Elia Kazan however, set explicit limits on Wallach's scenes, telling him not to actually seduce Carroll Baker, but instead to create an unfulfilled erotic tension.[24] Kazan later explained his reasoning:
'What is erotic about sex to me is the seduction, not the act ... The scene on the swing with Eli Wallach and Carroll Baker in Baby Doll is my exact idea of what eroticism in films should be.'[25]"
24. Wallach, Eli (2005). The Good, the Bad, and Me: In My Anecdotage. Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. p. 172.
24. Young, Jeff (1999). Kazan: The Master Director Discusses His Films - Interviews with Elia Kazan. Newmarket Press. p. 224.
KAPOW, Kazan, Wallach & Baker!!! EXACTLY!!! The steamin'-off-the-screen melt factor is off the charts!!
For real, are our pants burnin' up yet?? Not to mention that criminally overlooked* erogenous zone... that minefield of blast-off, outta-this-world pleasure: the imaginative mind!! (What that other Kazan alum, Brando, knew just a little somethun' 'bout, ladies and gentlemen.)
* Overlooked, as in virtually foreign territory, to the (interminably) sexually infantile U.S., where eroticism goes to die. Except in Eli Wallach and Caroll Baker, of course. ;)
I couldn't agree more. Movies today don't get this. They show too much, lose all sensuality and sexual tension. These actors and director knew how it was done.
I am just learning of this movie and the fact that the actor "boll weevil" was my grandfather. Much more to learn.
all you Arty people. That is TUCO of Good, Bad & Ugly, and so when you have to shoot, shoot..don't talk
AJ Lanterman, I have seen The Magnificent Seven, and I thought the same thing about his Mexican accent. By the time I saw it for the first time, I already knew Wallach was Jewish and from Red Hook in Brooklyn. But he sure did make a convincing bandido and cut an intimidating figure as Calvera!
bow chicka wow wow
Imagined Eli wallach plays a handsome debonaire here while in the 70s he plays the ugly in the good,the bad & the ugly a cowboy film headed by clint Eastwood.
Eli wallach efsane bir oyuncu
Magnifique
He's so sleezy. A predator.
perturbadoramente sexy...
esta peli la vi anoche...nada es lo que parece
todos están atrás de un interés mayor
muy interesante peli.. filmada de forma clásica pero con un argumento moderno
A favorite movie of Roman Polanski !
woah. that was hot.
MAD Magazine did a blistering satire on this, which is why I've never bothered watching it lol
If Mad Magazine does a satire on anything or anybody, it means they've made it. I'd love to see that satire!
Dixie Burge
I grew up without TV and films were a rare treat, so buying MAD was one way of knowing what were the latest releases. I think the satire's title was Sin-Doll Ella.
My all time fave MAD TV satire was of "The Rifleman". Mort Drucker's depiction of Chuck Connors's face was pure genius; and, as the article pointed out, the Rifleman was a peace-keeper. At one point, he is informed by his son of some crooks getting up to something unlawful, twirls his rifle, enthusiastically sprays dozens of bullets and says, "Stand aside, son! I got a powerful peace-keepin' mood comin' over me!" Hahahah, MAD always cut through the BS:)
Dixie Burge
I have all my MADs going back to 1961, and every so often read through them, reliving my youth with chuckles. I stopped reading them when the old crew died off. After that, it was badly dumbed down!!
Still like the 1965 satire on The Sandpiper, and although I love Liz Taylor, still have not bothered seeing the film, on the strength of what MAD did to it:) It's currently showing on pay TV, but I don't think I'll waste my time.
Dixie Burge
Just remembered, MAD did a satire on Basic Instinct and named it "Basically, It Stinks!" Hahahaha
MAD Magazine was pure genius! I remember their parody of the TV show Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea called "Voyage to See What's on the Bottom"! Their Fugitive parody, "The Phewgitive" was such a riot! Dr. Richard Kimble's facial expressions were so spot on. The final cell showed Kimble walking off down a street in a town while guys with hoses sprayed water onto the streets. Their truck had writing on the side that said "Making Streets Look Like It Just Rained Company"! Never thought about it before, but many times the streets on that show DID look like it had just rained, presumably for some sort of dramatic effect. Gotta love MAD!
They said his hand is working way around.
that guy just seems like an old perv.
I agree 100%...
Alonzo B--Yeah, you hung around here long enough to post all these comments, so you must enjoy watching "pervs" grope sweet young things, dontcha?
You obviously don’t know the movie
Quisiera ver la película completa; la versión original con subtítulos en castellano.
I haven't seen the movie. Is this scene supposed to be creepy?? Or I am just reading it that was because I'm seeing it through a modern lens. Side note Carroll Baker's acting in this scene is amazing.
Trademark Moxie- I think your valid in seeing the scene as creepy. I personally have mixed feelings, arguably the same as Babydoll's (Carroll Baker) in this scene. I do view it as seductive, but unsettling giving the whole context of what is going on. Since this is a old comment I don't know if you have seen the movie by now, but if you haven't, I highly recommend it.
If they could remake it, it'f be Nicole Kidman as the Doll - she's a tad old, but she's got the Carol Baker look.
Cathy Netherwood they'd probably choose that elle fanning, though I don't understand why, people associate her with the lolita type
If men are not allowed to say no, they experience incest, molestation, rape and loss of power just as badly as women. Have you ever seen Steve McQueen and Lee Remick in Baby the Rain must fall? Cuddle Party gives relief to people so they can be in a place of caring with affection and safety.
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i am playing flora in 27 wagons full of cotton
Oh yeah he's good,and she's so hot. It's all that swinging back and forth..".delicate... soft and smooth...no, no fabric or cloth not even satin or silk cloth and no kind of fiber not even cotton fiber,has the absolute delegacy of your skin".
*BABY* : "...I don't like the swing, it shakes me up....besides, I'm relaxed....."
*MR.VACCARO* : "..Oh, no you're NOT...your nerves are all tied UP..." *...no...UNG-AAHH!!*
(0:44)...Oh, you make me feel HYSTERICAL, Mr. Vaccarro.....STILL.... (3:45) ....
I need a cigarette.
In the present year, it is wrongfully uncalled including whistling at a minor girl.
I would like to have seen Paul Newman in that part. Would have been so much better. This just feels like a creepy old man on a 19 year old.
Well now you do.
Oh My God, Shamborn and Krevinger are so totally right! Carroll Baker simple wipes me out in this scene. She's turned me into a puddle of very excited mush. So incredibly lovely. She IS delectable." Not much of her, but what is there is first rate." And those lips are soooooo inviting I will dream of kissing them for the rest of my life.
Exactly, there's nothing more to say
I generalized about male writers. There are not enough female writers who are given a place in the Sun. Male writers have a perspective that is promoted out of proportion to the world population. Males and females have erections. Big hairy deal. If no one acts on their erections, and boundaries are respected, everyone leaves empowered and in a better relationship. We are surrounded by people who do not act on libido.
@cromagmax Well the movie was written by Tennessee Williams. Makes sense haha.
@catneth She could play the grandmother, maybe, if she got more Botox treatments.
Baby doll
What is it about it that's so damn hot?
If you don't know, then you're hopeless! 👎
Exactly.
Male writers like for no to always mean yes. Some female writers see it the same way. Cuddle Party teaches Silence, maybe, and no always meaning "NO." Why? There is no rape and there is no true "yes" if we are not allowed to say "NO."
Exactly what's your problem? I'm a woman and I have no hangups about this or any other male/female issues. My feelings about it are not that easily bruised. Just enjoy the video and cut the feminist drivel, okay?
That person's initial comment was written poorly, but she has a point. It's not drivel to point out that someone intensely coming onto a woman in that way is kind of creepy in real life. If you find it hot in a movie then whatever, but it isn't behaviour we should exactly be celebrating in regular life. As a 14 year old I had 40 year old men follow me off buses, grab my ass, etc., and it never secretly turned me on, it scared the shit out of me. Consent is an important thing. If you wanna play sub-dom in the bedroom that's nobody's business, and sure, have fun. But in general, if someone says "I don't like to be touched," it comes off as a bit creepy when a person keeps touching her.
M. Freeman--Well, I could accept that, except she isn't trying too hard to get away, is she? She's saying "I don't like to be touched" but she isn't fighting him one bit. If I tell a man I don't want him to touch me, if I really mean it, and he keeps it up, I will be struggling to get free and slapping his slimy face! What she's saying in this scene and what her feelings are telling her are 2 different things.
Besides, it's just a scene from a movie. Can't it be enjoyed instead of being psychoanalyzed?
Body language is as much of a language as speech is.
If every man backed off completely the instant they met resistance of this kind...none of y'all would be here. Modern sexual politics have good aims and achieve necessary progress but ignore the dark truths of human sexuality. The sexual responses of men and women aren't shaped by modern politics. They stretch way, way, way back to something far less polite. If you're doing it right. The key is to find someone who you can trust and respect to do these awful things with you. Terrible, wonderful things. Awful, incredible stuff.
Take me man meat!
04:15
Poor Carroll's wetter than a soaked sponge
This is like watching hentai
Robot Zombie--Well, don't watch it then. Go somewhere where you can see a movie clip that doesn't "creep you out" and leave the rest of us alone to enjoy it.
This is corny and melodramatic and not Tennessee's finest, for sure. A poor man's Lolita.
Ew what a creeper
He is so gross
Carroll Baker is one of the most natural and spell binding actresses I have ever seen working. Truly. This young lady was SHAMED permanently for acting in Tennessee Williams little masterpiece ‘Baby Doll’ by the Catholic Authority who are well known for their denial and covert child molestation and GREED coverups. In other words this stellar performance was buried out of corruption and probably guilt. Ms. Baker was robbed of her very greatness by an industry bent on exploitation and this gal took every hit known to show biz by the time she was barely a grown up. I have been studying the great Tennessee Williams and our system of critique, media exploitation etc… is the ruination of too many wonderful and great artists and I don’t think it’s getting better. We are rinsed by snowy wonder at this ladies’ incredible acting skill. Acting is a skill inborn then honed by great teachers and Carroll Baker has got it in spades. My heart broke when I learned what was done to this film. The seduction scenes are always shown but every little nuance Carroll gives in this film is genius. Try acting if you think it’s so easy, many think they are great, few are. Caroll Baker is one of the great actors of our time.