Trading a $40,000 Lebron Rookie Card for Zion?? 😱 Tampa Collectors Con
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- čas přidán 18. 12. 2021
- Geoff hits the show floor at the Tampa Card Show, makes some deals and makes a trade with unfortunate timing.
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Well that was a mistake
@brendenconner9686 shadow angel x7 moonlight 0:28
I personally would not have done that trade, I just feel Zion is not gonna have a long career. But, I’m also a big lebron fan
You can go wrong with lebron he’s gunna end up passing everyone whether people like it or not his cards aren’t bad to invest in!!!!
@@chrismrsickfoo9984 anything can happen, ultra modern lebron is overprinting except for autos
same.
LeBron's autographs, cards and memorabilia are about to explode. He will become the NBA All-time scoring leader midway through next season. I cannot believe Geoff failed to take this into account before making this horrific trade. As someone who has worked directly with LeBron since 2006, I am looking forward to the scoring record explosion!
full of shit man.. lebron is never going to hit 38,000
I can't believe you're proposing this 😂😂😂😳. If I'm trading LeBron I damn better get a rare Jordan or Kobe. That dealer with the Zion is full of 💩 imho
Merry Christmas Jets! Enjoyed watching. See you're next to Kevin again and Steve dropped by again! As always - cool attitude while dealing. Thanx for sharing - it's as if I were there!
Glad that you balanced out the risk with the KD and Steph. The upside with Zion is not as to how he plays when he is healthy (if ever)...it is where he plays. If he gets moved to a bigger market and can stay somewhat healthy, his cards will take off again.
I need to start bringing a Cammera with me to card shows to make deals and put pressure on sellers as well!
Cameras didn’t have any affect on the deal. I’m used to big deals and record a little bit of CZcams content myself.
Easy solution to fix that if you think it affects the sale. Tell the buyer to shut it off, or walk away.
3:38 Imagine taking your kid to a card show, just so have them run off and give your most prized possession to a stranger 😂
The Bron is one of the key cards of a generation. It’ll continue to rise in the long term even when his career is over. He’s going to stay relevant why else did he want to go to Hollywood
Lebron will be more relevant than Jordan after his career over. What if he runs for president someday? I wouldn’t doubt it
Specially when he retires, since panini and fanatics will not have the right to include bron in the player set when the time comes
@@ozsportscardcollector4720 kanye west ran for president man even jake paul i heard is running for president
Love the episode! Look out for the Scoundrel at the Next Tampa Card Show!
Crazy video. Think you should always hold LeBron. That guy Mitch is delusional about Zion. Comparing him to LeBron shows how little he know about Bball or cards.
Great channel. Thinking of getting into the basketball card game. I'm a hockey guy and enjoy collecting rookies and rare variations. Would be pretty cool to see you collect some high end McDavid and Ovechkin rookies. Ovechkin's value will only go up and prolly blow up once he breaks Gretzky's goal record.
Lebron has a steady carreer, zion can have future but its a shot in the dark.
This dude really likes the gamble
My assumption would be that even if Zion came back the Pelicans would have an unsuccessful season, thus his hype would die out pretty fast, leading to a buy opp. before next season. If I was making this trade, I'd be going for both Durant refractor, Curry, and 1 Zion. I'm sure you have other cards aside from the LBJ to trade as well, because Zion's equity is pretty loose and you could be filling the coffers with Ovi/Crosby/McDavid Young Guns :)
Mcdavid YG’s are crazy printed. They actually lowered 14-15 print runs in preparation for 15-16 because they knew how hyped mcdavid was. Mcdavid future watch, while much more expensive, would be the better investment imo.
pels #1 in west, lol
Got bit on the zion news same time you did. Bought a psa 10 base prizm for 270 at a show in New Jersey. On the way home I got the alert of the setback.
Next day they drop to under 200. That's the game.
9:38 man really think Zion will be better than Lebron one day lmfao
Although, I wouldn’t have done the trade, I appreciate the insight. It was a smart trade, either way. I feel like your mindset when constructing these business trades is that of a stock broker. Your cards, although not as solid as LBJ, have a potential of higher upside. Good luck.
Never trust a man that wears a button up t without a undershirt.
This aged well!!! 🤣
I'd probably have tried to make a deal for the Lamelo Kaboom for Zion, if he's really who you were interested in. Definitely made the better choice of the 2 trade options for Lebron though.
Cracking 9.5 cards to try for a 10… man your a beast bro , love it …
You’re definitely not afraid to take a chance ..hope it pays off for u , and I also believe in Zion ..
That talent don’t just go away , Jordan was out early in his career too…
I like the idea of cracking for PSA 10s been targetting 8 and 8.5 topps kobe rookies to submit for 9s. Reports Zion has lost some weight and his prices should recover once he returns. Also if he goes to a bigger market and on a good team should boost his value. Just hurts knowing how much his price is going to drop from now to when he does return. What do you think of this years class Mobley looks great but big men tend to not do well compared to high-scoring guards/ wings like Cunningham, Green and Barnes. Also do you plan to try and buy low on any Trout during the lockout?
I can’t get over taking Zion over Lebron .
Always take goats over risk
Goats over risk? More like goats over busts lol
O can't get over how fat he got ,I wonder if he can even jump like he use to
I need to start bringing cameras with me to card shows as well and put pressure on Sellers.
“No pressure take your time” 📹😳
The cameras didn’t have any affect on the deal. I’m used to big deals plus I record some CZcams content myself so it didn’t make a difference for me.
I do understand a lot of the card hobby doesn’t translate to how well a players career is or what accolades they hold but the investment and theory that Zion is a great or will leave a mark on the game makes no sense. There are 20+ active players in the league id invest in before Zion. 20k - 40K cards in value for Zion makes zero sense.
How do Zion rookies get back or Exceed their previous highs? Multiple chips, HOF career, MVPs? No. He simply needs to get back to where he was and/or go to a big market team that will spend to put pieces around him. This latest setback will only drive prices down more ( Panic sellers) . Jeff knows this, his deal will pay off HUGE.
People are trying too hard to find the next Jordan...in 10 years 99.9% of these cards will lose value and the market will favor the next batch of over hyped players.
Now your talking my language Geoff!!! Zion has got to be the Best Buy right,l now plus I’m a full Believer!!
@@ozsportscardcollector4720 I know dude it is what it is lol
The Bron had a 9 for centering, I think you'll do okay longterm. If the Bron had a 10 or even 9.5 centering it would have hurt more for sure.
I think you hedged your bets at the same time protecting your investment 😉
I only collect soccer and have the same with Ansu Fati - great talent but injury prone. Sometimes you gotta jump on those deals and take a chance.
Crossing over BGS to PSA is never a given and mostly ends up with you getting a psa 9.
He gets Influencer bulk discount and these people tends to get more PSA 10s maybe for open box CZcams. But yes I agree with u, generally u get PSA 9 Crossover. Particularly with the acquired of PSA company by Hedgefund Manager Steven Cohen Himself. He is one of the most corrupts human being in history. I'm sure he bends rules. Hew PSA were already bending rules before Steven. FBI used to investigate them for futting corner turning psa 2 to psa 5 vintage cards moving price by 6 figures.
Fun video. Enjoyed watching as always!!!!!
I think not a bad deal. You're an investor. Investors take chances. The 1 for 1 I don't think I would have done but picking up 2 nice Zion's PLUS 2 GOATS IN Curry and KD was a good move. Guys like you don't have museums where your collection just sits to be looked at. You're wheeling and dealing. I'm sure you're already thinking ahead for when Zion comes back and strings a couple of good game together. Those Zion's are gone! Who knows, maybe those 2 Zion's alone will bring a Lebron refractor back into the card portfolio to join the KD and Curry cards!
Nuts. Common sense prevails. Trading a GOAT LeBron for a Zion means you think he can surpass or approach LeBrons career. Would you invest in Microsoft or go with a startup software company? I get it for a quick flip hype perspective, but the fact ppl pay high enough prices to even allow a quick flip is puzzling.
Lebron refractor for a Zion Prizm BGS 10 would have been disastrous… dodged a bullet there by adding Steph and KD in the mix!
Out of the 2 deals on the table you made the right one. Unrelated but KD numbered rookies are way, way too cheap currently imo.
I feel like that Zion trade is on par with the Jordan trade earlier in the year. Ooooooooof.
Sick of these guys who want the value they THINK the card will be at in 3 years.
It's a big gamble. I can't say I would have done this trade. It'll be interesting to see how it turns out
I think it was a fair trade (considering you did it before the new Zion news that he would be out another 6 weeks). I would have done it. Love Curry!
But people have known Zion is overweight for months now. When Charles Barkley calls you fat, that is pretty bad.
@@carolinatarheels7903 True. I still believe in the kid. He will get it together.
@@carolinatarheels7903 like if he isnt himself
Gotta be fun to be able to participate in deals like this.
The fact that guy tried to explain that zion was higher upside then Lebron....i hate Lebron and love Zion and i realize how dumb that was.
Adding Steph and KD was smart but Zion equivalent may be Greg Oden due to injuries.
I wouldn't trade sure value like LeBron holds for Zion, but that's just me.
That said, I do think you are 100% correct that now is a good time to invest in Zion. When healthy he is legitimately generational. We've never seen some of the things he did last season before. People who think he's all hype are extremely mistaken.
Very nice ..wish i have one of those to my collection
At least you put your money where your mouth it and show the whole transparent process- no risk no reward- love the KD Topps refractor that card is undervalued
Did you ever think to re grade the Zion’s ? To see if you get a becket 10 or with psa ?
Good thing you got that Durant and Curry lol
The dude behind you was digging for gold up his nose at the 10sec mark
Mitch seems all in on Zion. Good luck. 🤑🤑🤑
That would have been a tough trade to make. No doubt Zion could become great but he could also be the next Shawn Kemp. I don't think I could have made that trade.
In the end the only difference between Zion and Kemp will be about 14 kids lol....Anyone spending big money on Zion at this point I just don’t understand.. The upside on him is lessening every few months...Imo he’s not the “Next” chosen one.🤷♂️
Ummm kemp actually made 6 all star games and 2nd team nba 3 times . Not a good comp
You still can make 2x or 3x the profit in low end cards. The mid and high tier cards are done for now. Since the sports cards market is in downward trend, I am hoping the grading fees, hobby boxes and Ebay fees are going down as well. Of course, next year we have to report taxes of $600 sales or more. That is a bummer.
Interesting trade. The Zion market will be down until next September or October I imagine.
Just seeing this now. Everything he used to describe Zion is exactly what you could say about Lebron. But Lebron has already done it all. 🤦🏽♂️
I have a feeling zion won't even be in the league in couple years due to injury hope I'm wrong tho
I probably wouldn’t have done That lebron refractor trade but I’m very low on Zion. I probably would have found more established players with a potential to win a ship.
One monster game upon Zions's return and those cards take off. Good luck.
Actually not a bad trade, at least you have a Curry and Durant rc as fallback instead of gambling on the Pristine 10 Zion which could have rue the day imo.
9:22 Lebron was bigger and faster lol...and he was a 6’8 SF not an undersized PF/C. Lebron was on a complete ‘nother level. When Lebron announces his retirement or final year and the nba it cards are gonna frenzy upwards
I think newer prizm # cards go for way to much rite now not sure what they will go for in the future. You having doubles of the Lebron I probably would of done the deal but would be tough. I love Lebron and think his refractor cards will go up. Curry and Durant cards are nice. So that being said good deal.
One year later. Still lost value on trading off Lebron for Curry, Durant, & Zion 😢
I can't see him being a great player until he takes fitness seriously.
he's going to eat himself to an early retirement
No. I have a rookie Zion. Holding. PSA 10
I have BGS high end card that I’m also thinking of sending off to PSA. The sub grades being the following 9.5 on edges, corner and surface. Center is 10. What’s the likelihood that I can receive a grade of 10 or should I just accept the BGS grade?? Thanks love ur vids!
Did it PSA 10?
You mitigated some of your risk with the Curry and Durant, that was safer...Zion's future hangs in the balance of his weight...or being overweight.
This video was fantastic!!
loved how you introduced your sons in the beginning of the show only to exclude them for the entirety.
Great episode
Great trade. This is totally what we called investment! Great video!
hey, I have a question how do you price a one of one?
can't believe he would trade that LeBron refractor
I like your thought process on the trade getting the Steph and KD and 2 Zion RC parallels. I think the fact you already have Lebron RC refractor(s) is an important point to emphasize. Might as well trade one for a little risk/reward b/c if Zion returns to form he'll be the next generational talent.
great car salesmanship by the Zion guy...owned SCI....
I Would not have. Thanks For The Teaching and Tips on Risky Card.
Geoff you are nuts bro!! Lol that Lebron, rare rc refractor for an overweight, injury prone, Overrated hobby darling Zion? You have some cojones! I’m not a fan of dumping tons of money in unprovens, especially vs one of the greatest players of all time. But you are clearly more successful than me, so what do I know. Happy holidays everyone
Jeff just got worked on his own channel 🤣🤣
my tiny 2cents... Zion is way too big a risk and all those comps were hyper inflated by the COVID boom, the Curry not sure what kind of upside is left, and Durant is not (despite being a fantastic player) particularly well liked. Lebron is a certified GOAT so the trade even without the news on Zion was just so-so but you did spread you risk out a bit. As well, a huge missing piece of the calculation is what you had into the Lebron to start with. Nevertheless it was definitely an interesting video to get the thought process of both parties and I do appreciate getting an opportunity to watch it.
The way you make your bed is the way you're laying in it. I wouldn't have done the trade LeBron is on his way out the door future hall-of-famer and possibly an NBA title before he's done. Zion on the other hand is injury-prone
As an owner of over 45 Pristine 10s, I'm glad this brought some light out to them and their rarity.
🙌🙌
of lebron???!
Wow id take the deal asap… id keep the refractor lebron for sure
That guy with the Zions couldn’t wait to unload two duds on Geoff and the Durant was nice but the Curry paper was pretty much a throw in as that guy can buy another one in no time.
What back pack do you use ?
My vote is … your nuts. You gave up someone that is arguably the goat and an all time scoring leader for someone that will be lucky if you can squeeze 50 games a season out of. His body just can’t handle the amount of torque it produces. His latest injury was a non contact injury which says a lot to me. Don’t get me wrong he’s a great player when he’s healthy, unfortunately he just can’t stay healthy. On a positive note, atleast you didn’t put all your eggs in one basket and go for the pristine 10 lol. Anyways,I love these videos. Thanks for posting.
Great work. If everyone knows that a BGS 9.5 = PSA 10 what's the point? Are there really that many uneducated buyers of graced cards?
Hi Geoff this is Michael bell from California I would have not done the Zion willing trade at the Tampa sports card show in my opinion the only thing that saved you was getting the Stephen curry and The Kevin Durant basketball cards I much prefer to go with proven star’s because if it does not work out in most cases you will not lose a lot of money or give up valuable card or cards even if the proven star’s go down in price or prices in rare circumstance I could be wrong but in most cases proven star’s will keep there value because I do not like to spend high amount of money on gambling that unproven rookie cards make your money back and go way up in price with out putting true safeguards in place
I never saw the draw with Zion, his hype was unwarranted.
Sports Card Investor are you going to the Dallas card show?
That one guy knows nothing about Zion and lebron lmfao 🤣
With Lebron a couple of years out from breaking the scoring record, and zion a couple of years away from being on a good team this is a tough one to agree with but we will see how it all plays out.
that is why I never buy cards of injured players, I stayed away from Acuna,,, and Tatis...
I definitely wouldn't have done that trade because your LBJ was a Beckett 9.5 Refractor & those are hard to come by. By the time LBJ retires and get inducted into the HOF? That card will skyrocket.
I will hold my cheap kobe topps rookies all three 10s and my 9 and bgs 9.5.
Stuck with these cheap cards when I could have a $5,000 Zion in one of 30 colors
That Mitch guy probably was giving all his friends high fives after hearing of Zion’s set back.
Did you not see the amount of Zions I own? 😂 All that means is I’m buying more. I picked up a black/Gold optic auto #/8 after I heard the news.
@@TheRealMoneyMitch I’m definitely buying more Zion while his cards are low.
So disappointed to see no SGC slabs at these trade shows.
Lebron is solidified as one of the best ever, same with Curry & Durant. The one risk is Zion which I don’t know if he’ll perform at his highest this year. That wasn’t a bad trade at all. Both Curry & Durant will make the playoffs this year if they stay consistent thru the year.
I would have looked at more Curry and Durant in that trade and avoided Zion altogether.
I think you're nuts but I love the risk taking. Makes it so much more fun. If you can do it, why not?
Lebron with a SUPER TEAM?! DUDE... NOBODY IS HELPING THAT MAN!
I think Mitch's buddy said, "are you crazy? Of course you take that deal"
sometimes analytics don't say it all. star power and cache is everything,
Did this dealer just try to say Zion was better than Bron at the same age?? 🤣
#NumbersDontLie.
I myself would never have made that trade. Lebron has already proved himself if he never got on the court again. I am like most people I think Zion is to likely to have a shorter career and definitely going to be subject to more injuries because of his weight. ( JUST MY OPINION. ) 😊😊😊