I'm Buying the Makita Track Saw Next, Here's Why
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- A good look at the Makita Track saw.
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Loved the shims tip. Elegantly simple and effective.
I agree, that's a solid "Tip from the Pro's Closet" for sure!
@@drewt3210 I agree
@@drewt9829 Pretty nutty we have nearly the same screen handle!
@@drewt3210 I thought so too. Have a great 2021.
Awesome tip
I’ve had that exact saw for a year or so and absolutely love it. Of course all the accessories really come together to form a dream team; their cordless router + track adapter, woodpeckers track square and those dealt clamps. Not a cheap combination by the time it’s all said and done, but the precision, convenience and portability are unbeatable so far.
Thanks for the video Jon. I was already leaning towards the Makita track saw, but your buddy’s review sealed the deal. I didn’t know about the scoring cut feature - that’s fantastic!
I picked up a track saw recently, as well. Don't know how I lived without it. Literally. I always felt like I was taking my life in my hands trying to maneuver heavy sheet goods over the table saw. Thanks for the video!
Hey Jon I'm so happy that you're upgrading your tools! I`m just a hobbyist but got the sp6000, you'll love it!
Greetings from Brazil!
Thank You Jon. I always learn something from your videos. Thanks so much for your time and expertise.
Great to hear! I just bought one on amazon last night.
Nice tool demo. Thanks for demonstrating the cross-cut scoring feature.
Really like this saw. Always hear about Festool, but this pips it in my mind. Great stuff.
Nice video and i love the tip about the shims from below before the final handsaw cuts.
I have the corded version with the 55 inch track and I absolutely love it.
Definitely recommend that track saw. Works very and the saw and accessories are quite affordable compared to other options. Can't beat the 8' track.
That wedge trick! Thanks for great videos!
The shim tip... very very cool. Hoping all is well guys, Dirty Jersey out!!
I love my makita corded track saw dust collection spot on and robust cutting capacity even in the hardest woods
I ran a makita corded version for the last few years. Upgraded to the festool. It does feel like a better higher quality saw. The depth stop on the festool is so quick and easy to adjust vs the makita that the scouring button is no longer required. I run my power cord in the sheath that protects the vacuum hose and stops it from snagging on the track. So going cordless doesn't make sense. Both great saws that make you wonder how you got away without them before.
i've jumped straight into TS55 and it was a good decision. Not that makita is much worse, for me it was the depth change and plug-in system that made the deal. really nice thing to switch between saw, sander and domino.
@@ignacymat my DF500 and TS55 don't have the same electrical plug? The actual shape that plugs into the tool is different on both (because why would Festool use the same plug for all their machines 🙄).
Awesome info, the scoring feature is something I hadn’t heard about!
I just bought the makita track saw myself. It’s fantastic. If you use the scribe plunge cut first then cut fully threw, it will cut clean as glass.
I am very pleased with my Makita track saw, even with thick old oak, although I would not be parted from my Festool sanders. Thanks for the reminder about the scoring cut, I will be making some carcassing from plywood over the next few weeks. Neat trick with the shims.
Can only speak about the Makita cordless track saw but love it so far after a few weeks - I find myself just gravitating to the battery powered tools more & more . . .
Good stuff, Jon. I too am shopping for a track saw and have looked heavily at the Kreg model, but it's corded. Don't know if you've given that one a look yet. I'll definitely be taking a look at the Makita to compare features. Thanks for the video~!
I have the Makita 36v track saw for 2 years now it is super great for sheet material.
only down side I find is when I am doing deep cuts on hardwood
it will eat battery's but if you are not cutting a lot of 40mm+ hardwood
it is a great saw for pros and DIYers
I purchased one a couple years ago as a Christmas present for myself and one of my most used tools.
Fascinating. Nice birthday gift for you, Jon. ;)
So much for the scoring pass, didn't prevent tear out.
I've been using the chorded makita tracksaw for years. Has paid for itself many times over. Love it.
Same 😎👍
to score I adjust depth and run a pass backwards. mine doesn't have the scoring feature. very confident to do that move even on expensive veneers.
It would be nice to see how you tune up your track saw to get the blade 90 to the reference surface. Also how the angle can change when you put it on the track.
Great shim tip. I have the corded makita tracksaw and love it. With plenty of batteries I can see I may buy a cordless sometime. Greenstreet... I thought there were three if them rather than two... I guess I have some of their podcasts to catch up on... eek... Thank you, Peter.
I have this saw on my list even though I am in a diff platform. Seems the best all around in reviews.
I have the corded version; Makita was the only one who had the 45 degree locking mechanism. It locks the saw to the track making killer 45’s. The 45s are so sharp, they’ll cut through the cord if you let it drag on the edge. Great investment!
Not trying to change your choice. Festool TS55 battery version has a scoring feature and I have had mine for a couple of months. Along with an MFT, I have used it a more than any cutting tool in my shop. I have been cutting ¾ walnut faced plywood, no power problems at all.
I've never had a power issue either. It's all about choice and what you want.
New Festool battery powered TS55 also has a narrower kerf (blade thickness) which results in more cutting power by having to remove less wood. Absolutely love mine!
That would be the TSC55. I’ve heard the power issues were fixed in their cordless lineup as well.
I love Makita. This saw is great and also has functions at an angle of 45 where it will not fall off the track.
I bought that saw a month ago and it's amazing!!
i hear from a lot of guys that the makita track saw is awesome. Love the video thanks for the info.
It’s funny that guys say the festool is under powered but what they don’t understand or don’t know is the festool track saw uses only the power it needs to make the cut it is a smart saw and automatic adjust based on the resistance.
So glad you mentioned it Dave. Kind of makes me think the guy never operated one. You really have to watch what you state in a video when you are trying to put down one brand while elevating another.
The ts55 I've used I foundt to be massively underpowered too. It's obviously not all that "smart" if it doesn't know when to ramp up the power to get through a cut. Cutting 24mm birch ply with it was almost impossible. My cordless Makita had no trouble with it at all
@@keefykeef I have 4 TS55s on 2 separate job sites. We change blades for different operations. And always have our blades sharpened bi-weekly. The one you used must have had a bad motor. Suggest the owner call warranty!
@@JDDupuy I'm glad it works for you. I have never changed blade on my Makita, it cuts through everything clean as a whistle
I have the Makita unit. Absolutely fantastic saw. I only have two Makita tools total, but that saw is pretty unbeatable for the price.
Thanks for the info.. I just bought the Mikita because of this video
Hope you enjoy it!
Plus the Festool D27 hose fits the dust port perfectly.
Mafell has the scoring cut feature with an advanced offset.
Mafell is the best, yet it is almost twice the price as the Makita.
Track saws are a game changer, I had a big panel saw to rough cut sheet goods down and finish cut on the table saw. I sold the panel saw and got the Festool TS55 and never looked back, this was at least 10 years ago.
I bought the Festool TS55, very disappointed with the lack of power. Now looking to replace the saw with something compatible with Festool tracks because I own 3. I understand Makita is compatible, will not buy overpriced Festool again.
I have the Festool TSC and I haven't had too much of an issue with cutting even the heaviest of white oaks, although I normally do a scoring pass first about 1/3 of the depth. Any tracksaw is a good investment these days, IMO!
Great video thanks for sharing and a great tip about adding the shims to prevent material drop. What make was the Japanese saw?
I have the triton version, one of my most used power tools.
I have one and love it.
Spot on with his first reason for getting the Makita: If you want cordless, go with the battery platform you already have. The feature differences likely won't make up for the extra headache of buying and managing more batteries just for one tool.
Problem with that idea. FESTOOL is a system, not just one tool.
Whats wrong with a corded system?
Truest me I dont own any festool and have no plans on buying the over priced stuff. Its my oppion if I were relaying on a tool to earn my living id go with the most features.
By the way mekita was top dog 25 years ago.
MILWALKIE is today. If its red the batteries are not dead.
DEwalt makes a system as well as grizzly read reviews and look at differnt systems. But over all what tool gives the best qulity work.
FESTOOL was designed to be a portable woodworking shop fine finiture.
Most of the rest of the tools were made to do construction work.
This has to be taken into consideration.
If your doing qulity work you can charge more to help offset the costs, also its a tax write off, and the tools depreciate
Actually they dont they hold there value better then any other brand.
@@bobbg9041 my point about the cordless tools was 'IF you want a cordless tool' go with the battery platform you've already invested in. The more you've invested in that platform, the more it makes sense to stay with it. Now, if you're perfectly happy with corded tools that advice goes out the window. For corded tools, buy the best tool you can afford, manufacture doesn't really matter in that case. I do completely agree with your assessment of festool. If there's anything from their lineup that I'd like to have in my shop, it would be the Domino. The rest, I'd rather spend less money.
Cept Milwaukee does not make a good portable track saw yet
You can buy battery adapters really cheap to use makita on dewalt etc
I love Makita tools, have them and I use them quite often, however even with this scoring option you still get some tear out @4:22, My Bosch track saw never produced such tear out on any plywood wood I cut without scoring. My 2 cents. Thx for sharing this.
If you get tear out with a track saw my advise is to check that you are using the correct blade. Check that your blade is clean and sharp. Next make sure your saw is setup to your track. Make sure your upper minimal clearance tab is set on the wood your cutting. If you still get teary or it’s possible that your plywood is of a poor quality. Putting some painters tape down on the face surface and cutting through that may help..cheap tra saws often suffer with a bit of “blade wobble” due to poorly balanced blades or poorly set arbours.
I've had the Makita for several years, long before cordless was an option. Plugged into an overhead outlet, the cord is never really a problem. FWIW, Always use the vacuum. A friend uses two (all day everyday) in his cabinet shop and his guys never used to use a vacuum until they burned up both in short order. Now they run the vacuum faithfully and their replacement saws have been running for 4 years without any trouble. Best, Andrew @BranchAndFoundry
Does this apply to outside use with no vac still damaging them?
Festoon st-55 with batteries is the best saw. The button is silly. Just score with the height. You need a riving knife because any saw gives kick back. Love the video.
Also Makitas do not fall out of the track at 45 Deg
Hi, this makita track saw in scoring cut also push the blade in to the rail for about 1/2 of mm in order to prevent splintering of delicate materials...
My Kita sp6000 corded has made me enough profit to get it's cordless cousin and an hkc55! That's how valuable these things are, especially for the interior finishing I do.
I have the corded Makita, it is the bomb. Table saw doesn't get used nearly as much as it did.
Purchased one last year and have never been more impressed by a tool. Very powerful clean cuts. One of those purchases where you ask yourself why it took so long to do it (price). Was WAY worth the cost though.
Totally agree 👍
Great video all best
Best track saw ever, money vs performance.
EXCEPT for the METRIC depth gauge!? measure re-measure.
Don’t know how I survived without one for the last 30 years..... bought the Makita last year....absolutely love it.....blades are pricey, but oh well!!!!
Watch Peter Millard and his work. Great channel.
Do the scoring cut in reverse, especially if you need to use the off cut piece
As a general builder I bought an erbauer from screwfix for £180 as I couldn’t justify the cost of a makita, after 3 jobs with it the blade kept jamming, motor would stop after an inch worth of cutting so I threw it against the wall and bit the bullet on a makita as all my other kit is makita, just wish I bought it in the first place absolutely awesome bit of kit you won’t regret buying one, I found the scoring feature works better pulling the saw backwards on a cross cut of ply as the blade is traveling downwards 👌
Excellent 💯
I’ve gone full Makita the last three years. Oddly, my only tools that are not Makita are cordless drills. Really wanted those light weight, all black models but resisted the temptation. My best friend has a Makita track saw and showed it off. Really nice quality with the sweet spot in price.
I have the makita subcompact drills for a couple years now absolutely love them I do remodeling so they are used and abused every day
After the score cut, making the second pass, you can still see massive tear out....
Other reviewers have said the same thing about the corded TS 55, but have said the new battery version of the TSC 55 seems a lot more powerful than the corded version. I have the TS 75 and don't have any problems with tearout on cross grain cuts, don't need to make two passes. Seems like an unnecessary waste of time.
I bought a cheapo Scheppach tracksaw (being a DIYer) and with a Freud blade it actually cuts very well...
I'm going to max-plunge it & put those markings on the base, super handy idea right there... 🤗
I'll have to investigate to see if I can fit some kind of '' scoring lock" to it as well... as a machinist by trade, I have all the equipment at hand to figure out & implement a modification... 🤫
I've heard great things about the Makita & if I were doing more work, I'd invest in it over any other brand... 🙂
From the Emerald Isle
😎👍☘🍺
I’m mostly a Makita user. And I’ve used their trackie. It’s solid at a good price point. But honestly it’s miles behind Festool.
Do not disregard the Bosch tracksaw - corded it is more powerful than the Festool. Single battery for the cordless option.
And the track system is far superior (same as Mafell I believe?)
Hi Jon, I have a near new Mafell track saw (only used for one cut)with a couple of tracks and clamp kit that I am selling. If you want the best, this is the saw you want!
Then why sell it?
I bought it thinking I would use it on other projects but haven’t to date. I’d rather sell it than have it sit for years unused.
The Festool TS75 is the undisputed king of track-saws. Powerful , accurate , fast cutting speed
, robust quality and excellent ergonomic design. It’s a truely professional tool that will serve you for years. Expensive but spread over its lifespan - a bargain.
The Wen track saw had the scoring feature AND it's integrated into 1 switch. The switch had 3 settings: 1) set depth cut, 2) scoring cut, 3) blade change. It's much more elegant. Instead of having separate switches there's just the one.
I’ve got it. It’s awesome. It does however have a little play in track
The Triton TTS1400 also has the scoring cut feature.
I have the corded Makita and find its a great saw.
Nice saw.
Question for everyone.. I too just purchased the Makita. The saw does not have replacable slides in the base where it slides on the track as Festool, Milwakee and maybe others do, but slides against the actual base plate. After just 3 or 4 passes on the track the paint is already wearing off and I'm wondering IF there will be issues down the road because of this design. I am surprised Makita didn't pay more attention to this detail. Otherwise an awesome saw at an awesome price point!
Mafell has score, best motor, best track, and no need for a riving knife. I can rip 8/4 hickory in one pass with no effort and the cut is better than my cabinet saw. It is pricey though.
Bosch is close second!
Agree. Pricey, but worth it.
I own that saw. Used it today to make a steep angle cut that I would've had to build a special tablesaw jig for otherwise.
Nice video.
I love mine, but I have the corded version,
I really need the Festool 75 for the ability to make those deeper cuts Im working with rough lumber that needs to be planed and squared up for river tables. If Makita made a saw with the ability to cut three inchs like the Festool 75 I would probably get it.
The Bosch has a scoring feature as well as the line marks for knowing where the blade limits are AND up to 48 degrees bevel and is very powerful.
Does it? I thought that was one of the feature it did not receive from the Mafell original. Which model are you referring to, GKT 55?
Does it? I thought that was one of the feature it did not receive from the Mafell original. Which model are you referring to, GKT 55?
@@i679n5 Mine is the GKT13 corded version. Has a scoring capability and 47 degrees not 48, I had to go look at it to make sure.
@@ugafan1779 interesting, thanks!
When I watch this video they said it did not have scoring (pre cut 2-3 mm). Sound strange bosch would add that functionality only for US version. Would be a redesign.
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I've got a £50 track saw that has the scoring feature too!
I have corded version, fantastic tool, it’s still not clear to me what I’ve been putting off buying for so long.
The Triton has a scoring feature.
YEP!! The Triton, WEN and countless others are chinese OEM tools with different brand names on them.... I have the WEN it has the scoring feature and also anti tipping, ..... but these dudes LOVE spending the $$$$$
I’ve recently upgraded to this track saw from a corded Evolution circular saw type. The difference is night and day. Dust extraction on the Evolution is completely useless, even with my Festool MIDI attached. The Makita on the other hand is amazing, especially when you cover up the blade change hole. Luckily, the Makita fits the Evolution tracks (even though I have bought 2 x 1.500mm Makita ones) so I cut those down to smaller tracks. 1 x 1.000 and 1 x 1.200.
Yup I just bought the Makita track saw
Should you do the scoring cut in reverse like a scoring blade on a table saw?
Hi. Nice presentation. If I take the cut piece and put it against a level , do I see daylight? Please advise. Thanks
Hi. Have you ever put a straight edge against your cut to see if there is any day light between the straight edge and the piece you cut ? I appreciate your input. Thanks.
I've has one for 12 years. It's made me thousands of dollars.
Do you know where the other wing screws are for?
The wing/fly screws close to the adjusting screws..
Gr, Robin
The WEN track saw also has a scoring setting. I believe (not certain) that the Wen track and Mikita tracks are compatible
They are compatible. I bought a couple WEN tracks and cut them to shorter lengths (24 & 36") for hardwood crosscuts. They work perfectly. Best, Andrew @BranchAndFoundry
I'll say the same thing as everyone else, that saw is amazing.
I love my makita track saw but I feel I should use it in conjunction with a festool track as I feel my makita track does not fit as tightly
This is on my list also. Debating between corded or cordless. I'm on the dewalt platform and really don't want different batteries. I'm thinking about getting the battery converters where I can use dewalt batteries on makita tools. Will probably do this also for the Milwaukee 18g gun.
@Chris Horsford you'll find them on ebay. Search for something like dewalt battery to makita tool converter. You can probably get any type you want - makita to dewalt, Milwaukee to makita etc. Just about any combination is available I think. Just be sure you are getting the correct one that takes the dewalt battery and fits the other tool, not the other way around.
At 4:21, I'm seeing tare out at the end of the cut that is supposed to be demonstrating how to avoid tare out. Am I overlooking something like this being the backside of the piece? Which is how it should be as that seems to be the standard for cutting plywood with a circular saw. What if you want both sides to be splinter free? Aside for using tape, is there a way to make this saw do that? Very interested in a good track saw and really like Makita.
Try a different blade .
when making a scoring cut the saw should be pulled backwards. The teeth at the rear of the blade meet the surface while cutting downwards, hence no tear out. Give it a try! Works better ;)
Depends
First off there are sevral systems.
But what you have to take into account
Is Festool is a woodworking shop thats portable, the mikita is a construction tool.
Are you making finiture at the customers house or hanging shelfs. And whats your qulity expectations.
You've got to take everything into account. Do you need cordless?
I dont own any festool, and im not looking to buy any. But from what I've seen the cordless version track saw from festool under preforms but the rest of the system is hands down better then anything else for qulity of work.
Grizzly makes a system, dewalt makes a system kreag makes one and sevral other brands. You've got to price each one and get some comparison reviews.
Price you can always use the cost as a tax deduction. Price shouldn't matter.
Very cool saw. I realize the track is not clamped down. Does it shift?
What is your opinion of the Makita corded track saw? I'm deciding between the corded and the battery powered.
He's right the festool does feel dead to the world .