TEC DIVE in Baltic Sea on ferry ESTONIA tribute to 852 souls
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- čas přidán 26. 09. 2018
- MS Estonia, previously Viking Sally (1980-1990), Silja Star (1990-1991), and Wasa King (1991-1993), was a cruise ferry built in 1979/80 at the German shipyard Meyer Werft in Papenburg. The ship sank in 1994 in the Baltic Sea in one of the worst maritime disasters of the 20th century. It is the second-deadliest European shipwreck disaster to have occurred in peacetime and the deadliest peacetime shipwreck to have occurred in European waters, with 852 lives lost.
The Estonia disaster occurred on Wednesday, 28 September 1994, between about 00:55 and 01:50 (UTC+2) as the ship was crossing the Baltic Sea, en route from Tallinn, Estonia, to Stockholm, Sweden. Estonia was on a scheduled crossing with departure at 19:00 on 27 September. She had been expected in Stockholm the next morning at about 09:30. She was carrying 989 people: 803 passengers and 186 crew. Most of the passengers were Scandinavian, while most of the crew members were Estonian (several Swedish passengers were of Estonian origin). The ship was fully loaded, and was listing slightly to starboard because of poor cargo distribution.
At about 01:20 a weak female voice called "Häire, häire, laeval on häire", Estonian for "Alarm, alarm, there is alarm on the ship", over the public address system, which was followed immediately by an internal alarm for the crew, then one minute later by the general lifeboat alarm. The vessel's rapid list and the flooding prevented many people in the cabins from ascending to the boat deck. A Mayday was communicated by the ship's crew at 01:22, but did not follow international formats. Estonia directed a call to Silja Europa and only after making contact with her did the radio operator utter the word "Mayday". In English, the radio operator on Silja Europa, chief mate Teijo Seppelin replied: "Estonia, are you calling mayday?" After that, the voice of third mate Andres Tammes took over on Estonia and the conversation shifted to Finnish. Tammes was able to provide some details about their situation but due to loss of power, he could not give their position, which delayed rescue operations somewhat. Some minutes later power returned (or, somebody on the bridge managed to lower himself to the starboard side of the bridge to check the marine GPS, which will display the ship's position even in blackout conditions), and the Estonia was able to radio their position to Silja Europa and Mariella. The ship disappeared from the radar screens of other ships at around 01:50, and sank at 59°23′N 21°42′E in international waters, about 22 nautical miles (41 km; 25 mi) on bearing 157° from Utö island, Finland, to the depth of 74 to 85 metres (243 to 279 ft) of water. According to survivor accounts the ship sank stern first after taking a list of 90 degrees.
Imagne yourself being asleep on this ship while it was sinking, you suddenly wake up while your room is filling up with water. A proper nightmare folks.
And particular in ESTONIA ship people were trying to get out from lower level and ship crew didn't let people pass and blocked a ways. My friend survived and told louds of shit strange thing what was happening there...
@@dive_like_grinch this is crime
@@joydevsarkar4474 If goverment does that then it's just an accident ...
@@dive_like_grinch really? What did he tell you?
@@nnicollan so much misstery in all that situation. You even can look already in made movies in youtube abou survivor sories...
my grandma was one of those souls😭
May Her Soul rest in peace🙏
Rip
I know how you feel
Rip god bless her
Sad
It's now 1.50 am in September 28th 2019. Rest in Peace Estonia's victims.
I was onboard that ship in 1992 when it was still called Wasa King and travelled from Vaasa Finland to Sweden.
I survived. I say all who died in estonia "REST IN PEACE"
Thank to God you are still here, so up there some one had good plan for you on eart!!!!
Yes May Rest In Peace ☮️
Omg you were in the ship.
say hello to Lucifer and burn in hell :D
if i remember you were in water when they come to rescue you
i still remmeber this accident crew has no time to put down safe boats
and i remember they saved some people 48 h after sinking in this cold baltic sea
can you plz tell us how you were saved?i was seaman in the 80
One of my biggest fear is encountering a huge ship that once sailed the seas, now it’s just resting there. Very uneasy feeling of terror knowing that people actually operated and sailed on the ship has now perished beneath the waves. May the poor souls find everlasting peace
Yes a terrible way to die.
@@sinceresong9907 Submechanophobia, is Wreck still there and can you access it?
Have to point out how scary it is to follow a shot line into the blackness of the deep, knowing at any moment the tomb of hundreds will appear suddenly. I know it's not their first dive and have done it many times but that dread of what you may find must fill the stomach with nerves.
You have a point mate. No matter how many dives you have under your belt that feeling never leavs you. One more point to be careful not to get narcosis on that deapth!
@@dive_like_grinch Lotta respect for you guys, I could not do it.
You should be afraid of the living not dead
Children especially...
Yeah I was thinking when they were filming the holes that the visibility looked vey poor from the lights maybe no more than 3 to 4m max?
Watching from Kenya, May their souls R . I .P
One of my dads friends survived it I was kinda little and didn’t know much about it but now I’m older and it sounds scary and I can’t imagine it
Rest in peace poor passengers
Beautiful choice of music 🎶 for the tribute of these beautiful souls. God be with you all 🌹💐😇👍. Kudos from Alaska ❤️
Thank you for your precious ❤️🌹
Does anyone know what that music was called? Very moving for this tribute to the lost.
Michael Thomas Song is Rebirth
Artist Erich Lee ASCAP, 60
Album Natacha Atlas. & Hi-Finesse
It’s in the description below video 🌹. Hope this helps. Be safe and sound out there. During this Conronavirus madness 👍
damn weird to think my mom lost one of her best friends in that accident
Omg 😳 really!?
My dad was actually working on Viking Mariella that night and he was there
Rip M/S Viking sally
I stay in the bar or on the top decks. I never take a cabin when travelling across the north sea or channel. I was on the Herald of Free Enterprise just Three weeks before she capsized.
I check escape routes and always have a plan..
Can’t believe i found this on the anniversary. rIp
Am also a seaman and i remembered about my last vessel which was rolling and pitching very hard in middle of the sea but Almighty saved us...
The allmighty saved you. My moms friend died in M/S Estonia. He was one of the Crew
The authorities (Swedish government) were acting very strange about this. They banned any exploration of the wreckage and wanted to cover it with rocks and cement (wtf?).
Estonia sank because there was an exploison on the cardeck !
They covered it cuz they didnt want bodies appear on sea
@@flick_mane that is most stupid thing ive ever heard.
@@flick_mane It would have been trivial to retrieve the bodies and the ship itself from the shallow waters. This is what they claimed they would do for about 2 weeks until they suddenly did a 180 degree turn and insisted on burrying it in concrete (which has never been done and would not work; the hull is too slippery and sea-bed to soft). They did not manage to cover it in the end; they just piled some gravel in front of a suspicious hole in the hull and that's about it.
Because it’s an underwater graveyard, just like Titanic.
Nobody would have remained asleep in a storm rolling and pitching besides before it rolled it listed heavily and all the furniture moved or broke loose. Heavy items must be bolted down. The people who realized the danger got out then by running along the bulkheads and climbing out. They only had four or five minutes so it was a case of survival by the smartest and fittest. A vessel in heavy seas has to be monitored frequently. Not just the engine room but in this case with this kind of vessel the bow hatch and cargo deck frequently for any shifting. Cargo breaks loose and hatches fail. The captain who was under pressure to maintain a schedule was criminally negligent in overseeing the operation in my opinion. There may even have been a video monitoring system.
Thank you so much for grate coment, you described it as you would be your self on bord that night, thans for puting in words on the pick of all that night!!!!
Encuentra tu lugar de buceo
I was a mastet mariner and have always been curious of disasters at sea. I read the accounts of the survivors and remember them. Just getting outside on deck was a struggle but when the ship floundered and went under they had to get in a life raft in storm swept seas. The rafts which are designed to pop up to the surface but there they are at the mercy of the wind. Some rafts were found with only one or two people in them and not all alive because of hypothermia. It must have been a terrible ordeal. I cannot remember the captain's fate but there would have been a Maritime Inquiry. Had he posted a competent crewman in the bow to watch the hatch components this tragedy could have been prevented. But that wasn't done and to keep schedule he drove into the oncoming waves even after the hatch tore loose. So the main cargo deck with the cars and lorries swamped very quickly and all that wieght broke loose and shifted. He was too slow in recognising the danger from the bridge. By the time he noticed being down by the bow and turned away from the seas it was too late.
@@slypen7450 As i know that captan survived but was taken out from list but still couldn't hide as was shot on video in ambulance car. But oficially he is dead.. strange... in SOS time capten was not on bridge...
@@slypen7450 My friend you need to learn something about ship design & heavy weather tactics.
The bow visor has limit switches that set off an alarm long before its visible ~ the Visor hinges/ attachments were destroyed by explosives. As was the hole in the Hull.
In heavy seas the safest tactic is almost head-on into the waves, turning across the waves, risks a broach ~ Not fun.
Also, exactly what was the weather that night, F6, F8, F10 ???? I’m sure that Ship could manage a Baltic F10 with ease..
Andy B.
I was a 500 ton master for 35 yrs. So I know a little something about those vessels and operating in storms servicing the oil fields in the Gulf of Mexico where men get cut in half, squashed flat, and ground up in the props. I read an account of this tragedy a long time ago. All I can say is (thank God) no one ever got hurt or killed during the years I was a Captain and at a helm. I am retired now but you can gfy and shove your advice in the same hole your pretensive expertise gets extruded from. Only fools trust alarms over visual inspection. If you had any time at all in a wheelhouse you would know alarms have a tendency to be annoying and get turned off by the captains and crew.
As for sabotage its easy to claim but proving it is another matter now isn't it?
Many people were in their cabins, it happened at night, very quick.
Is the wreck still there and accecble?
as a seaman i remember this accident very well it s a lesson for the captains stay in harbour when big storm is in deep water
this is what our algerian captain do in mediteranean sea every time
safety first
But this is a different case as on bridge there was no capten.. You can hear in all radio conversations that captein was missing already
med med Estonia didn’t sunk bevause of the storm, she sank because of an explosion. She transported military material from old sovjet in secret. Swedish government knew all about it but lied to the people and tried to cover it up.
A terrible tragedy, may all the lost souls rest in peace.
We well Always Remember that Disaster that night R.I.P The passengeers on Ms Estonia and it self
Who is estonian here rise your hand 🤚(im estonian)
✋🏻
Latvia 🖐️
Elképesztő egy modern vízi járművön !
25 years😭😭😭😭
By listening to that radio, I’d say the signal is jammed.
This was like the modern titanic.
Yeah but the sad part is this: The titanic had a lot of people and only 1,500 (Wich is a lot for a ship) died, and the estonio had like 900-1000 and 800 died.
The modern titanic is the Costa Concordia
Almost
LatteBear no
@@errz_07 Only 30 or so people died on the Concordia so I don't think so.
Drowning is a horrible way to go, and in a cold dark place, is simply terrifying
3:03 that fish do be vibin tho😳😳
Where?
Carl Eric Reintamm did arrive the promenade deck 1 till 2 minutes after the loud 2 or 3 bangs that happened between ca. kl. 01.02 or 01.05.
According to JAIC the bow visor fell of the ship around kl. 01.16.
So the 2-3 big bangs, water on deck 1, and the following starboard listing did happen ca. 10-15 minutes before the separation of the bow visor!
That is pretty strange, because that means that the sekvens of happenings did indeed start approximum 12-15 minutes before the car ramp could have let all the water inn on the car deck.
That brings the questions on why the water came in on deck 1, and why the ship listed before the ramp fell down and the visor separated from the ship !?
Reintamm did see something in the water that left the ship backwards to the left app. 10 minutes before the separation of the bow visor.
Assuming that Reintamm looked backwards to the left from starboard promenade deck point of view, the thing in the water most likely could have hit the starboard side of the ship before the separation of the visor, and the opening of the ramp.
If Reintamm speaks truth it clearly proves without any shadow of a doubt that the specific time of the the 2-3 loud bangs, the inlet of the water on deck 1, followed by the with 30 degrees starboard listing a few minutes later, that this sekvens of events clearly happened before the separation of the visor and the downfall of the ramp........
Nadie supera al Titanic
Je me rappelle, pour nous en Suisse, c'était un lointaine catastrophe maritime. Une pensée pour les victimes et leur famille.
My mom vas on that boat one day beafore it sank
Same
Did she see anything suspicious?
Damn, that is extremely lucky...
You can see metal bend outward, that's strange!? Explosion??? Why won't anyone try to figure out what really happened that night?
That metal around a hole is investigate and no found any marks to explosives.
a Swedish diver appeared on the ship three days after it was lost. he saw the hole in the hull with his own eyes and he also had an instrument for measuring radioactivity and the instrument showed positiv at the hole in the hull. This diver has had a duty of confidentiality for thirty years. So yes some thing is very very wrong here. if you want to find out what really happend that night read Ole Dammegards book describes this very well, the book also covers the suspicious assasination of the swedish primeminister Olof Palme.
The truth is totally mindblowing, something that you never could imagine.
This has been now researched many many times. It was a design flaw, and lack of proper maintenance. It had happened something very similar just a few days before to the Mariella, I believe. Similar technical problem, but it was not as serious, and obviously not fatal.
PopSugar Sprinkles I can with 100% Security that is was not lack of proper a maintenance and definetly not a design flaw.
@@wlf1799 You have the evidence for your claims?
Its kind of weird out of all the ships that have sank, not much gets mentioned about this.
Where on the ship is this damage located?
Whats the Job of them exactly called like where do you can apply for diving to wrecks? And of course Rest In Peace to the people who died in this night
crazy to think there’s hundreds of dead people in there
My psyche is intimately tied to the Estonia. This vessel holds my most vivid childhood memories, aquired the year before it was sold off and sunk. As a schizoaffective person the conspiracies surrounding this incident have governed my life for far too long. Having been there myself I have managed to put to rest much of the paranoia but the actual events still remains a mystery. We all have to dive deeper!
There’s no mystery. The inquiry found that the lifting bow mechanism (called the visor) was inadequately designed, structurally deficient, and it fell off after taking too much pounding in the storm. Once that happened, the ship quickly filled with water, capsized, and sank. Maybe there was some incompetence involved, but nobody intentionally sank this ship. May they all rest in peace.
@@Sashazur Then what caused the huge outward gash in the side of the hull that caused her to list before the visor broke off? An explosion... or some type of sabotage?
Does anyone know how deep the water is where the ship sank? Tech diving.....maybe 250’.....300’?
it is 80m but it´s not allowed to do any dives on this wreck
That damage looks like it occurred during the ships demise, cargo shifting then reversing as water rushed in, a serious enquiry needs to be had.
Rest in peace for all of crew members and passengers of elistenia and also of titanic crew members and passengers and olympic , britanic ships these ships are very big
The loaded semi on the ship caused it to capsize as it was taking in water.
I want to see the cardeck
Can somebody tell me the origin of the music?
My Moms Brothers Friend Died On The Boat 28th September 1994 When It Happend
Is this the same hole they found/published lately? Or another...? How many holes are actually there at the bottom of this ship? Anyone who knows?
The key question is, was the bow door open or closed?
Closed but the hinges broke off because of the waves
That is good question as on first pictures searching for wreck doors were still in place... it is good question..
The bow door broke off
They failed to secure the massive front door which loads the cars. One who is slack in his work is brother to him who destroys.
in theory you can survive in such storm with out a front door. That what says all tests on those type of ships
An accident like this happened to Estonia's sister ship a year before Estonia's sinking , I dont remember the name, I think it was Fantaasia,
This is the first time I have heard of this ship having damage consistent with a high pressure incident from the inside outwards. The metal seen in this video certainly shows the damaged areas having irregular edges bending outwards. I was just out of university and starting my career as a police officer/major crimes detective at the time and I remember thinking about the chances of a ship that had served so many for so long suddenly flopping over to list ninety degrees and sinking were near impossible. After watching this I must find some books on this tragedy.
This ship is called by my country and many estonians don't want to talk about it at all
My dad also told me that it is illegal to go there? cuz this ship rests in peace idk much bout it tho
Im a estonian😭😭😭😭
Same
Were the bodies retrieved or are they still inside? Rip
They refused to bring them up and in commercial diver's video could see bodies all around the wreck as well as officials sead there is no one.. sad but true..
Encuentra tu lugar de buceo where can I see the video?
@@brock2872 czcams.com/video/ImR3asU4gFA/video.html
@@brock2872 czcams.com/video/ACpsOTfEplg/video.html
@@dive_like_grinch Where do you get your info from. The officials never denied that there are bodies inside. Theres even a report from a salvage team who extensively researched the ship and reported seeing about 125 bodies. They also said that it would be too risky to salvage the bodies.
Estonia was a sweden ship and im in sweden Stockholm to something i prob forgot or it was to stock holm but the front of the Estonia has Cars that broke off after that water came to and side then ut tilted and tilted for an final plunge 32 or idk has came and rescue it but it was to late that it sank but some survived its true so have a good day ⛴🛳🚢🛥🚤⛵️🛶😄😄😄😄😄😄.
Mon Dieu c'était une nuit terrifiante
It's almost a guarantee that I would be drunk passed out in my room. I wouldn't have woke up until the water filled my room.
Shit gives me major anxiety.
My dog was on that boat
I’ve even heard passengers who were rescued getting abducted and struck off the survivors list never to be seen again
Murdered?
when this movie is made?
Around couple months after acident
@@dive_like_grinch
The disaster investigation committee knows this video
@@siimsusi2387 This was gemenjurnalist independent investigation, all iz documented. By official investigation committee it's all is ignored as it's prowes tha committee is lieing or are stupid
I heard it was the front bow door that wasn't put on right from the storm and sea finally snapped the brackets and bow door came off they also said it wasn't sea worthy but got a certificate anyway
I know to what you are referring, different ship.
My dad was going to get this exact same boat for a break on a work trip but decided not to after all.
How many survivors?
exactly what was the weather that night, F6, F8, F10 ???? I’m sure that Ship could manage an F10 with ease..
The bow door broke off
@@rommel36952 yea yea & Santa came along on a red-nose reindeer, talking to the tooth fairy
This shop was Build on Germany - for The Route Stockholm to Turku ! Only 3hours of Open Sea - between The Islas ! Never Big vawes in between The Islas !
This ship was Build in Germany - and My phone in North Korea !
@Andy B. The ship was also meant for shorter cruises. AND it was not meant for those weather conditions. The ship also mainly took a different route. Let’s not forget that all the cars on the starboard side of the ship caused a list.
My mom's uncle died in a oil rig explosion I believe.
Who sank it
OMG SIHP
On line.
These Victims are murdered for shure!!
Was there a Submarine involded?
From witch country?
This wasn't a accident.
May they Rest in
Piece 💟
WHat people don't realize, it's only 85 meters down. The ship is 157meters long or something like that, so if they caught the bow and lifted it with a crane and stoof the ship up, it'd be standing half out of the water, i guarantee you in rough seas shipps come with only 20 meters of hitting it
Selamat bekerja.kalau gak mau kapal jangan ditenggelamkan.sini tak ramute
I am so crazy about Estline and Titanic and also Im Estonian but Im 10 years old
Check out The Sewol
How many times had this ship & others like it, done this same crossing in similar weather, before and after the sinking ~ with no problems !!
This was No Accident
I is so true mate and the wa how ship went down in theory and practical is not possible what ever officials says..
@Ronnie Burgess It is so true my friend, so true..
How many times ppl drive their cars without getting flat tires? Therefor all flats must be conspiracies. Survivor stories do not support any of this explosive bullshit and neither does any dives by the official investigators. I was on another cruise ship that night and it was not fucking business as usual. Our ship was bigger but I could barely stand at times the floor just fucking felt it fell off under as the ship was bopping. Estonia was older and smaller and was "speeding" in a weather it was not designed for and had no business being in. At least not running the max speed as it was.
I was there and took part in the rescue work during the night from another ship. Thoose stupid conspiracy theories are just BS, it was defenitley an accident as the car deck was open to the sea for a long time and when the ship was still making speed. We faced 30ft waves several times after midnight and with an open bow door you stand no chance. It was very bad conditions but not extreme, the ship should have made it with proper handling and maintenance, but they where going fastest of all ships out that night, despite being one of the oldest constructions (our at that time hyper modern clam door where bent invards nearly 50cm by the waves, but a clam door don´t bend away it´s just get more stuck).The pictures supposed to be of holes is not the hull of Estonia is not from the outer hull, it looks more like the jagged parts of the ramp holdings (but I would guess another ship as there is to much rust if this video is supposed to be within a year after the accident). And a hole in that size would actually not be any match for the pups and closed bulkheads. Thant is also why the explosive theories are not just unlikely but stupid. If you have something to hide explosives are and extremely unsafe was to get rid of the ship, Estonia was not top modern but she was still delivered 1980 and SOLAS-74 certified, to sink such a boat with explosives would be complicated as you would need a series of explosives in at least 4 bulkhead areas.The RoRo deck is the only place where you could get enought water in for a fast sinking. Insted the risk for someone trying to cover up would be that the ships managed to return to land if using explosives. Besides, if this was a cover up operation, why sink the ship in so shallow water? My deepest respect for thoose who losty their Lifes, but thoose spreading conspriracy theories don´t deserve respect….and it´s clear they knowvery little about the sea and marine technology
There was more there were stowaways on the cardeck she was sunk on purpose
Hey, I am Finlandian. I just ask that did you see Any bodies or skeletons while down there. I know this is rude to ask according To the victims but I am curious.
852 victims died :( worst maritime disaster in history:(
No, you think that's bad? 9300 dead on Wilhelm Gustloff same sea, Baltic.
The boat is lokal
Murdered is a bit much for this. A mass murder is more like 9/11 or the “highway of death”. These accidents happen but it is suspicious how it sank in 30 mins
I just call it as i see mate. Explosive charges on port side, marks of explosive, physics how such ships sinking, missing captain as he was saved e.c.
Jack 235 and all the missing Estonians ferry crews who survived (according to the original list).. it is a pity. One of them call his wife from the hospital yet he never arrived home..
The highway of death wasn't murder either, They were enemy combatants killed in war.
Any places are investigate to estonias front visor,around that side hole and not are found any marks a explosives.
Estonia,finland,sweden,fbi polices laboratorions are all do that investigate.
No terrorist attack or anything else.
Metal a front visor was a rusty and old(weak)so it gives up a wrongtime and wrong place.
Encuentra tu lugar de buceo it sank so quickly because of what is called free surface effect the cargo deck was a complete deck so when the bow guard failed and water came in gravity takes over and the water goes to the side with even a small list and there is absolutely nothing can stop it
Most ferries have baffle plates now to stop this initially. It’s not right to call this murder just a series of tragic events poor maintenance, I worked as
Chief engineer on various factory trawlers working off the Norwegian coast and bear island and green land during the winter and sometimes the weather was horrific we used to slow right down so we could steer the boat, I’m not saying if she had slowed down this would’ve stopped this but it might of, the Herald of Free a
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Like 852 souls died and 137 are alive) ':
The metal looks like it has been affected by high heat. Nothing else can bend metal like that if not high heat is involved.
Roman is cool men CZcams
I’ve never heard of this!
His hood during ww2 exploded and sank almost immediately after
Question did anyone actually survive aboard that vessel?
Only 137 out of 989 survived (852 fatalities) :(
My grandpa was captin
When the divers were down there, were the car decks accessible? The incredibly suspicious cover up activity, particularly from the swedes, has lead me to believe that whatever they were smuggling on the ship might have been radioactive. Also no, radioactivity does not automatically mean nuclear weapons. They could have just as well been parts of Soviet radar systems that used radioactive elements in its engineering solutions. But this is pure speculation on my part.
However, there have been declassified documents where internal security services were reporting rumors of 6 ton cobalt shipment that was supposed to be smuggled on the ship. Including a ships manifesto that revealed 8 unregistered vehicles that didnt have registry on the border costums nor whose registries have been removed from Estlines (the company that owned MS Estonia) ticket sales.
Anyway, my question is that if the car decks can be accessed then why not send in a dive robot with radiation detection, to get a reading from the car wrecks. If there is something down there it should come up on the Geiger counter.
Or at the very least get some sonar pictures of the wreck to get a general idea in what condition it is now, over 25 years later...
The ramp is close so u cant get in that way. Even IF u get in there its a total mess.
Immediadly after the sinking, military diving operations by Sweden, Finland and at least one other NATO-associated country were initiated.
The boarding ramp were removed in order for the operation to remove the military cargo on board. It was then refitted.
There are evidence for this in the photos of the (later) official divings.
The secret military divings were the main reason for the staged delay by authorities directly after the sinking.
Whitness reports that came forth some year ago point to the cargo being electronic devices, probably weapon control technology.
This was smuggeled from post-Sovjet to Egypt by direct order from the Swedish government (Social Democrats) and the sinking of the ship threatened to become a huge political catastrophe if the cargo was to be revealed.
There is nothing fishy about the ship in itself sinking. That is purely up to ignorance, lack of law and fear of repression among those who worked in the authorities.
However, the cover-up is huge, and it plays itself as so many would go down with that legal ship (...no pun) if the severity really were exposed and responsibility were demanded for.
Nice video, I enjoyed watching the diving footage, however callling them murdered is a bit much I'd say. Many things can be said about how the ship was going to fast in that weather, the turn, Mayday signal going out to slow and what not. But calling them murdered implies that the tragic death of these, over 800 people, was intentional. Which it obviously wasn't.
It's Ok mate. Only can you then answer on questions why there was explosion marks, why there were unexploded devices still on bord, why first sonar search showed that front door is still conected with ship????? Why capten of ship is missing if he was saved and even filmed on camera on surface????
I know what you're referring to. No-one except conspiracy theorists claims there were explosion marks. there's a torn hole area around were the bow visor anchored. Given the fact that the visor was torn off the ship, it's not shocking that there's material damage in the area.
Secondly, the the "unexploded devices" were two boxes. Why would that automatically be explosives? And also, let's assume the hole you mentioned was from an explosion, wouldn't this explosion have detonated the other adjacent explosives? It doesn't make sense that one explosive went off but the other two next to it didn't.
Thirdly, the visor was not connected. The car bridge yes, and it still is.
Lastly, the captain and everyone else on the bridge went down with the ship. He wasn't saved. None of the bridge crew were.
@@trummpinnar Ok mate, totally respect your point of wiev if just you would search more in it. I am not sucking info out from finger. All iss just what I red and what I found. I am not putting youtube as evidence but even there you can finde more then 100 videos showing thing what was not answered. As evidence you can put only 1x thing and that is that ship is down on bottom. But all araund even official coments are conspiracy. I am just telling a facts.
So - first - Explosive marks are fact as it was approved by Germeny and US labaratories, that is fact. I am just telling. Do more search. Explosive or just mistery hole is not even close to bow but it is on port side. Look again in all videos about independent diving on wreck. That is fact.
Secendly - unexploded devices. Don't be so smart in things what you not clearly controling. I mean about explosives. i spent too much time doing such things so I know how it works and how it can fail. Do houm work better. It's just sugestion, I'm not trying to put you down mate. Even if there was no fail then how it can be that on first dive there are explosive type boxes on starbord beam but after couple weeks all gone???? fishes don't eat them.
And lastly - sorry to disapoint you but it is conspirasy about captain but explain why he was not on post when ship was going dow? And why his friens, relatives (even wife) and coleges recognised him coming out from saving ship and sitting in ambnulance, coming out from ambulance car. All is in videos, That is what you can't hide.
Therd part - On first sonar search, just look videos. It should be blind or what and not to see bow door still atached on ship... Hmmmm... it is just video and photos... And then need to have 3 weeks to take it out??? For submarine KURSK it took 1 week for all ship. And the same about bow doors, that is sooooo strange where was the braking part of doors wich is the strongest conection. If doors are braking then it should be in different part. Again, not me is saying that but people who built a ship.
One more things - evidence by different type of ships sinking. Ships are not going down by 30min. If all deck is full with water it will take at least a week. It is just phisics, it is the same as 2x2 is 4. That how ships are built. Look on other videos what ship constructors are saying. Only if you are more educated, then sorry, i will believe you if you will come out with your theory.
I can tottaly agry with you and say it is all conspirasy but then can you answer on all these things??? And why Sweeden gov are hiding things and coming out if ooficial bullshit?
And for all overall - there will be always conspirasy about that as so many evidebnces are not taking searosly, so much thing been hiden.
@@trummpinnar The last thing just to make it clear mate. I am not the authority person to come out with some kinde of announcment. This is free accese to internet and we can say what ever we want. I am not here to change your mind as it wiull not change to me nothing - you accept it or not. It is the same with US twin tower issue on 11/11. You can believe that there were terorists on plane and that is the reason of building colapse down where burned out but terorist's pasports were found. Or it was explosives set in for making some other planse whatever they were.
I am just saying that on ESTONIA died my friend Kristaps Streics. just in case you do some searching. So I was doing some searching from all evidences even official.
Adam Lönnberg självklart får du tro vad du vill. Men att kalla allt annat för teorier är inte ok. Det du tror är oxå en teori enligt många..
I dont know why. But watching divers in murky water around ship wrecks gives me anxiety.
Well the Halliburton dive footage was leaked and was on youtube. It was done maybe 3-4 months after she sank. Wow i still have nightmares. It's off it now but that diving footage pulling that lass out of the wheelhouse, really rough. Basically her hair was all entangled at the wheelhouse door and the diver had no option but to grab her and pull her out by the hair. She was cut in half btw the fish had been at her. Dive on that boat no thanks. Still mind the original divers with there squeaky diving mixture saying we have flesh here as they opened cabin doors.
What is this hole on ship maybe rust?
Ylös se pitäs nostaa että nähtäisi uppoamisen syy. Upottamisen syy.
Ensin sanottiin, että kaikki hukkuneet, jos mahdollista, yritetään nostaa ylös, mutta sitten yhteisymmärryksellä: Ruotsi, Suomi ja Viro sen sijaan halusivat haudata koko laivan cementin alle. Jos joku on hämärää niin on tämä ja paljon, paljon muuta sen lisäksi.
Why do you use term "murdered"? It was an accident. The proper term would be "perished". May them rest in peace!
Ok mate, totally respect your point of wiev if just you would search more in it. I am not sucking info out from finger. All iss just what I red and what I found. I am not putting youtube as evidence but even there you can finde more then 100 videos showing thing what was not answered. As evidence you can put only 1x thing and that is that ship is down on bottom. But all araund even official coments are conspiracy. I am just telling a facts.
So - first - Explosive marks are fact as it was approved by Germeny and US labaratories, that is fact. I am just telling. Do more search. Explosive or just mistery hole is not even close to bow but it is on port side. Look again in all videos about independent diving on wreck. That is fact.
Secendly - unexploded devices. Don't be so smart in things what you not clearly controling. I mean about explosives. i spent too much time doing such things so I know how it works and how it can fail. Do houm work better. It's just sugestion, I'm not trying to put you down mate. Even if there was no fail then how it can be that on first dive there are explosive type boxes on starbord beam but after couple weeks all gone???? fishes don't eat them.
And lastly - sorry to disapoint you but it is conspirasy about captain but explain why he was not on post when ship was going dow? And why his friens, relatives (even wife) and coleges recognised him coming out from saving ship and sitting in ambnulance, coming out from ambulance car. All is in videos, That is what you can't hide.
Therd part - On first sonar search, just look videos. It should be blind or what and not to see bow door still atached on ship... Hmmmm... it is just video and photos... And then need to have 3 weeks to take it out??? For submarine KURSK it took 1 week for all ship. And the same about bow doors, that is sooooo strange where was the braking part of doors wich is the strongest conection. If doors are braking then it should be in different part. Again, not me is saying that but people who built a ship.
One more things - evidence by different type of ships sinking. Ships are not going down by 30min. If all deck is full with water it will take at least a week. It is just phisics, it is the same as 2x2 is 4. That how ships are built. Look on other videos what ship constructors are saying. Only if you are more educated, then sorry, i will believe you if you will come out with your theory.
I can tottaly agry with you and say it is all conspirasy but then can you answer on all these things??? And why Sweeden gov are hiding things and coming out if ooficial bullshit?
And for all overall - there will be always conspirasy about that as so many evidebnces are not taking searosly, so much thing been hiden.
this week it was proven it was NOT an accident! they found a huge hole !
Nobody really knows what happened
@@ralorpa A very interesting, constructive, report. Backed by some sound engineering knowledge, and excellent detective work. I shall watch this case with interest.
I hate when people compear costa Concordia to Titanic
Estonia was a sad thing😪🤟 now i have depresd fake (its weird when he asks do you speak finnish)
This was pretty bad like titanic or lusitania 859 people didn't stand a chance. Instant drowning.
This should be remember.
Titanic was worse
1496 died
Lusitania had 1198 killed
Those gashes looked rather how I would expect from the huge raising and lowering hydraulic rams which it is thought were the last surviving fastening of the bow fairing. They were said to have caused considerable damage to the adjacent deck structure as they tore away before finally giving way. It is this extensive damage that I suspect gave rise to the survivor claims of noises like ice breaking on the bow. It is suggested that the fairing was hung up on the top of the inner ramp doors for some time before its final departure and in turn this damaged the inner ramp's ability to seal.
I suspect that the bridge had very little warning of what was happening until it was already way too late to respond. It would explain the truncated and confused nature of their mayday message sequence.
I have one question why hasnt the estonia been raised or atleast have artifacts salvaged from it.
shadow the dark one Its same reason why TITANIC hasnt been raised. Because its death place for houndreds of peoples.
If they will rise the wreck up so much evidences will showen..
Because it is a graveyard and are treated as such. Something that the three involved countries decided together. As far as i know you are not allowed to dive around the ship. All three countries have a special law added (and other countries followed as well) for this particular graveyard.
@@uniquename111 it is so true and law is respected by all countries as wreck is neutral waters. And by this law no one as independent investigation can be provided and see the true what is down on the wreck...
Murdered souls? Wouldn't that mean that they were intentionally killed? The Estonia was a tragic freak accident